 Okay, I believe we are live. Hello everyone. Who've we got here? We have Jump in general and Garcia. Nice to see you. Hello, white Vegeta and Ryan Hans Chow. Thank you again Hans for the great stalker artwork. I loved that work out really well. Thank you so much Hello max and mcdj acdc And Peter Ang and I know there are some folks that I were chatting a minute ago that I missed so I'll try to keep up Hello, David Hutchison and You know what this is why I have my glasses look we're gonna be I'm gonna have my glasses on quite a bit this evening Synth Alice and Beta Ray Bob And sign painter Chris and riptide O'Leary and blue pen. Hello everyone I'll give everyone a minute to get situated to you know get in get comfortable Have a slice of pie and a paper cup of punch Everybody get comfortable Hello Daniel and Chad and James and Vincent and beta Ray Bob. How do you do? So I have topics. I have topics. Hello Matt and cyclonus. How do you do? I When I first Was planning this live stream. I just didn't have any idea what to talk about. I was just gonna you know kind of Just respond to the live chat, but then I thought of stuff. I thought of stuff to talk about Hello wheels of chaotic doom. How do you do? From Sydney, Australia Greetings, Sydney, Australia from the United States. Thank you for joining us So I've got some housekeeping things. There's that Mike Hunt guy again. What a Mike Hunt that guy is I've got some housekeeping stuff to talk about just some plans for the channel a little bit of the the upcoming schedule and then I Have a couple. Hey, it's Rob. It is area. Nice to see you Rob I have a couple things to discuss because I had I Was doing some research for an upcoming review and I had some books out To for research purposes and I thought why not just talk about the books, you know I do have some books and some printed material that I use for research and You know, I thought we would discuss that so I pulled all of my print material or most of my print material down off The shelf so we can look at it and we can talk about some of the sources of information For GI Joe that you might be interested in if you would like to learn a bit more about the history and how the toys are made See Hosted a watch party for whatever you're showing on the Hasbro live GI Joe channel. Oh, yeah Let's see hosted a watch party for whatever they are showing on the Hasbro live GI Joe channel. That's an intriguing idea That's actually a really intriguing idea. I'll I'll consider that Mr. SB Hue 04 thanks for the suggestion That is one of the housekeeping items though. Okay, it's related to one of the housekeeping items. I want to discuss Hello, Brian Yeah, so yeah, yes, Brian, I'm trying to put out some more stuff here. I'm going gangbusters. Hello, Victor. How do you do? And Zathras nice to see you and yo, Joe Yo, Joe says hello United States from Texas. Hello, Texas from the United States Thank you for joining the Union and sticking with us. I appreciate that So, yeah, I am trying to put out more content I had been doing like an assembly video on Mondays, but I didn't really have anything for this Monday So there's a little bit less this week than there has been But I've got a ton of classified stuff to do on Fridays I'm trying to do more short videos because I kind of like those as reference You know not full reviews, but just kind of a quick reference and they're easy to do so I can do more of them So that's kind of fun. Then we were working on, you know, regular videos regular reviews too. So Hey, it's sparkster. Hello sparkster And Sean Beckett. How do you do? Yeah, Sean was just watching the Sunbow livestream. Yeah, but for those who don't know maybe some of you don't know Hasbro is 24-7 live streaming episodes of the animated series So there is a channel for that on YouTube. So if you want to just sit back and watch Episodes of the animated series You can do that. It's kind of cool. Hello JP. Nice to see you Yeah, so Ismail Hart hello is from Argentina. Hello, Argentina from the United States. Thank you very much for joining us. Hello Simon and Yeah, so I Did want to say Just to clarify a couple things Because of the work that I need to do on upcoming videos and with the short amount of time there is left in the year I don't think I will do a Q&A video this year But I am going to do an extra long live stream for New Year's Eve I'm gonna stay online until 1 a.m. Here so you will Ring in the new year with me. I I don't have anything else to do I'm not going anywhere So I thought it would be the most fun to spend the new year with my friends here So that is my plan. Hello. Happy accident and non-stop pop. Hello. Nice to see you as well Just trying to make sure that I don't miss anyone And viper hello viper 269 hello, how do you do? So yeah For those of you who also have as little of a life as I do and have nothing else going on for New Year's Eve Just join me. We'll just hang out. We might watch something might have a guest So, yeah, we'll just we'll just chill out for New Year's Eve and I know that I won't be online for the passage of the new year For every time zone, but you know, I'll stick it out through Let's see. I mean the US Central time zone. So I'll stick it out For the the mountain time zone But I'm afraid I'm not gonna make it to Midnight on the Pacific. I I'll I'll be dead by then. I'm gonna be so exhausted Who else we got Drums and all that good jazz. How do you do? I'm glad I'm back too. Thank you so much So, um, yeah, I wanted to first say that I I don't think I have the time and the wherewithal to do a Q&A this year, but There will be an extra lot. Yeah Hello Burgess Meredith. There will be an extra long live stream on New Year's Eve and um, I have the first review of 2022 Um, completely Shot it's filmed. It's it's in the can. It's not completely edited yet But it is shot. I've done all the video for it. Uh, it is a large vehicle as it usually is for the start of the year Uh, and I'm reasonably happy with it. Um, I've been working on Uh, fixing some quality issues on the show Uh, some issues with like shots being out of focus and Uh, you know audio Volume levels going up and down. I've been trying to fix those things and I think I did a much better job in Uh, the first january Review, so hopefully you will notice an increase in quality Um, I I think I did better in the Uh, the trip wire reviews and I that I have in other recent, uh, video reviews Uh, but it's still not perfect. I still noticed a few shots, uh out of focus. Oh, hello. Uh, thank you for the Uh, super chat, uh, super chat, uh, erdo 21 What gimmick irritates you the most spring loaded guns push button sounds, uh, and or kicking action Um, that's a good question and I think I will go with the kicking action because uh, those, um those like, uh action features on figures would often interfere with Uh, articulation and just like normal free play with the toy Uh, and it kind of locked you into a specific play pattern, which the kid may not want to do Um, but as with like, uh, the push button sounds you could always just forget about that Even the ones that had the backpacks attached You can unscrew those and take those off at least or and if you didn't like the spring loaded weapons Then you could just ignore those and just use regular accessories, but those, um those action move gimmicks, uh, like with that a lot of the, uh, ninja force figures had Those would often interfere with with play in ways that you couldn't ignore So that's probably my answer to that question interesting question. Thank you for asking um I will also comment that, um, the as is tradition the first review of the year will hit on the second Sunday of january not the first sunday. Oh, and matt rubin sends a super chat. Thank you so much matt It says if I saw correctly both what's on show mine and htc are doing live streams saturday night Uh, is there going to be a timing conflict? Um, I checked with, uh, mike iris airy And I don't think there will be a timing conflict But if there is then I will work that out because I don't want to overlap what's on Joe mind if they've changed their plans Then I will adjust my plans Um, because well, I'm I'm a fan of what's on Joe mind and I don't want to, um You know, I don't want to step on their their, uh Well territory is not the right word, but their time. Yeah, I don't want to step on their time And I would like as many people to watch their show as possible. So, um Yeah, I did discuss it with mike Um, but I'll check with mike. I'll double check with him and just to make sure that nothing has changed. So Good question. Uh, and I will double check but I at least As far as I'm aware right now. I don't think there will be a conflict. Good question though. Excellent question Um, uh, hello bobs dungeon Uh, and steve. How do you do? Uh, merry christmas and happy new year to you as well Um, and uh, who else snuck in here? I think I think I've said hello to everyone um So, uh, yeah, so I've got I've got topics and and I've got a I've got to read Uh for this show Uh non-stop pop says I feel like action features usually aren't done right Honestly, I think uh, the only one I've seen them utilize well is the super powers line Yeah, the super powers line actually, um, is pretty well known for action features and and pretty well loved for those Where the action feature didn't impact the posibility. Yes, that's and That's I think that they were trying to replicate that with ninja force, but You know With ninja force it it did often. Um interfere with posibility. Hey, it's comic tropes Speaking of uh big fans. I'm a big fan of comic tropes Is there a figure that is the most common one you see for sale more often than any other? Um, I haven't, um, kept up with um online sales as much as I used to but My answer for that was usually um Cross country version one for some reason I would see cross country version one everywhere And I don't know if that's so much the case now But it seemed like there were more cross country figures than there were Havocs And cross country was only available with the Havoc So, I mean, how can there be more cross country figures than Havocs? And yet I would just see them everywhere like in every lot there'd be a cross country Um, there'd be a lot of and they're they're easy to collect right because he didn't come with any accessories So just the figure by itself is complete So, yeah, they're just like everywhere, man But uh, anyway, so I have my my, uh, my professor grandpa glasses on Because we're gonna do some reading because I have topics. I have topics Um, and I do apologize because when I have topics and I start, um monologuing Um, it's harder for me to keep up with the live chat, but I will do my best I will do my best. Hello armored magnus. Nice to see you Uh, you had to log into your other account while I'm glad you logged in to your other account and I'm glad you joined us um, uh, when uh chris, uh, tingy tingy, uh, I apologize if I am mispronouncing your name, but hello chris Thank you for joining. Um, I'm trying to say hello to everyone Uh, okay. Oh and jakee. I didn't see jakee jakee snuck in he does that Um, so, um, I had some books out and I was doing some research and it struck me that We don't talk about this very much. So I have two topics Two topics. Hello gi claymore. I have two topics to discuss This fine evening uh topic number one. I want to talk about print material that has been useful uh to me for research And the second topic that I want to talk about after that um Uh, ryan, I believe I did get the package. Um, I believe it's one that is sitting right over there And I am going to open. I'm since I got packages. I'm going to do um an unboxing video Uh for everything that I got for the month of december Um, and I'm going to do that early in january. So thank you so much Um, and uh, I appreciate that and I'm really looking forward to opening it and seeing what it is. Um And uh, let's see who else snuck in here. Uh Jamalyn parks. How do you do and bloody card? Uh, hello bonjour And boomerang fish cb. I have no idea what that means, but I like it. It's clever um So anyway, where where was I? Yes print material is topic number one. Then after we talk about print material um, the second topic I want to talk about is uh, some general thoughts on collecting um uh, because I There's something that I did Um earlier this year that was educational for me, uh regarding collecting Uh, and uh, yeah, I I think I want to share a little bit of that So we have a couple topics to discuss. Hello star grave. Uh, hello action figure expert Um, yeah, I'm doing uh pretty well right now. Thank you Uh, so now that everybody's here and hopefully I haven't missed it anybody Uh, let's talk about books and other print material because what you cannot see outside of the frame. Oh, um, Riptider O'Leary says mark below know below mo's ultimate guide. I have mark below mo's ultimate guide I actually have all three editions and we're going to look at those. We're going. Oh, yeah one more thing I'm sorry one more thing before I get started. I just remembered. Um, it has been suggested suggested in here that I do a live review And I thought that was a really good idea, but I wasn't quite I hadn't quite figured out how to do that But I think I have an idea for how to do that and, um Yeah, so I'm going to um I I'm gonna work on that idea and I think one of the early reviews for uh, 2022 is going to be live or at least it'll be Uh, it'll be recorded live in there. I'll I'll do like a I and it edited version of it After the fact so that the final review is, you know in the usual format, but I think I've figured out how to actually uh Do the review live so, uh, hello jls comics another great youtube channel jls jls comics. Thanks for joining Um, and uh the backwood boys garage. Hello. Nice to see you. Um Do you think you do a review on the class uh declassified cobra commander figure? I think you mean the classified cobra commander figure and yes, I do want to in fact, I want to look at the um snake supreme cobra commander, which is like Right there behind behind this camera. So you can't see it. It's right there. And I do want to do that. I want to, um Look at the at the two different versions and uh compare them So yes, I will eventually do that. I will do that on a class of friday So i'm not sure exactly when I'll get to that, but I will get to that soon. Thank you for uh reminding me. So um, yeah, anyway, uh, so, um Let's talk about uh print material, which is why I have my papers on here. Um Let's talk about print material. So here is a book that is somewhat related to gi joe um and it is um The title of it is This is your war. I don't know if you can read that. I'm trying to hold it up to the camera camera. This is by urney pile uh, and it is Upon this that the movie The story of gi joe was based So just as a piece of history Um, I wanted to get the urney pile book because that is um an important Uh milestone in gi joe's history. It's very influential in the history um Ismail says asks, uh, did I review all vintage figures? I haven't reviewed all vintage figures yet. I'm working on it though Uh, uh, still a few that I haven't done yet, but um, but eventually In the long run, we will get to all of them. Um The uh, let's see. What was I looking at? Yeah, okay two important books Okay, well three technically four important books Really more than that so um This um a lot of gi joe fans will be very familiar with this book. Um Yeah, somebody stole uh the the the sky striker um A lot of gi joe fans will be very familiar with this. This is the first edition of The ultimate guide to gi joe 1982 to 1994 by mark balomo for years. This was the collecting um Bible right this was um Uh essential for gi joe collectors. It had a ton of information divided by year With just a lot of extra material Uh about just everything that was made at least domestically in the us um For gi joe during the vintage era during those Years from 1982 to 1994. Uh, hello carl n. Uh, nice to see you. Thank you for joining us Um, so yeah, so this is pretty important Um, and this was let's see when was the this first published this was first published in 2005 That's the copyright date on this This went out of print. Um pretty fast so um Even though it was an important Resource it was really hard to get It was very expensive. Yes mcdj acdc says those books are stupid money right now. Yes Um, because it's been out of print forever. Uh, and you know, so they're not making any more of them and everybody wants it. So Uh later, I need a space to put this Put it right there There was the second edition Uh, there was the second edition Uh of the um The ultimate guide by mark balomo. Uh, and this was updated It was updated with some new photos And some new information correcting a couple mistakes. Uh, and the first edition. So, um, this was an excellent update Um, hello mcdeckard. Uh, thanks for joining um Uh, well, this is sort of a guide to ultimate guide sort of um Uh rob says ernie pile was a graduate of my alma mater indiana university The school of journalism is named after him. That's cool. That is really cool. That is actually pretty awesome If I ever make it to indiana, um, and not just driving through I would love to visit the ernie pile school of journalism. That would be really awesome. Um, so, uh, this second edition was published Um, let's see in 2009 is the copyright date on this And there are some videos on youtube That include some coverage of the creation of this, uh, of this edition It's if you search for collectible spectacle mark balomo There is a series of videos that you can watch, uh, much about this. Um, hello, uh, robert who says hello from bush mills Hello bush mills from the united states. Thanks for joining So second edition, but this also went out of print Uh, and uh, these also got expensive. So hello, uh, the killer weezer. Hey, nice to see you. Nice to see you Um And uh, the killer weezer got to chat with mark. That's really cool I have chatted with mark balomo a little bit online, but i've never had the chance to meet him in person Which I would really like to do um Yeah, uh rob points out the photography is vastly improved in the third edition. Yes, we're we're getting to the third edition But the second edition also went out of print And was again really hard to find and then in What year was this this was 2000 I want to say 2018 Uh Yeah, 2018 we get the third edition and this sucker is a hardcover It has some updated photography and it has some updated information A lot of the information is the same as second edition, but that does have some updated Um comic books wants to know who would win in a fight doc lifeline or stretcher I think stretcher is not a pacifist. So I think the answer is stretcher Um So, uh, yeah Stanley has served in the u.s. Army signal corps. They have two comic book shops, uh, at On base at fort gibson, georgia. Not sure if it is related, but I'd like to think so. That's cool. Carl. Thanks for sharing That's that's really interesting So third edition 2018 Unlike the other two which are, you know Softcover, this is a hardcover edition It's really sleek. It looks really nice. I did a video about look at that Look at that. That that just is isn't it nice Isn't it nice? um So these books are Really nice. These are books books are very helpful very valuable They often provide, you know, a ton of information Some information that is not very easy to find online So, uh, so this is great and this is why you know when you hear the name mark balomo Tossed around in gijo circles. This is why a lot of people know that name um, so for print material for gijo collectors these three editions Of the ultimate guide um Are invaluable These have been Just Just an invaluable wealth of information and unfortunately now they are all out of print Um, they are all out of print. So now even the third edition is getting kind of pricey um Oh and comic trope says he had the phantom x 19. Yeah, that was the photo that I showed Yeah, the phantom is a sweet sweet jet a really sweet toy. Uh, hello chewing bubblegum I don't know if I said hello to you when he came in but if not hello again um Chewing bubblegum says our vintage style o-rings going to see a wide release in retail stores. Um, I That's a definite maybe there It almost seems like they're telegraphing that move a little bit with the releases of o-ring figures You know through, um that has lab project and such so Um, it's not a guarantee, but it does mean they are You know starting to produce some o-ring figures and we very well may see more of them. So um I hate to say definitely because you know, I don't want to be disappointed if they don't do it, but Um, but I think this is a very distinct possibility. I think it's better than 50 50 that they will um Have a wider release Um, hello rebel dad. Uh, you made it. Uh, thank you. Hello Josiah. Uh, nice to see you Uh, and uh, hello matt decker. I don't think I said hello to you. So hello there um Anyway, so where was I um, okay a microphone is plugged in cool Uh, so we looked at you know, these extremely important books Um, these three editions of the ultimate guy by mark bolomo um There are some other fairly recent books That are have also been very helpful Of which this is one and um, this is a series. This is a series of books by dan clingensmith And um, it's the title is uh, three 3.75 joe I think that's supposed to be like three and three quarter inch joe Special forces team that forged a new american hero Uh, and this is this is volume one I have volume one and volume four. I don't have the rest of them. I'd like to get the rest of them They're a little bit on the pricey side. They're not as pricey as the ultimate guide, but uh, they're a little bit on the pricey side But these things are great um, these have Not just information about the figures And you know the the toys that were released But they have for instance Of production pre-production and concept drawings of the characters And uh, this is awesome. Uh, it, it's uh, Tells who the designer was it shows like Different phases the design went through Um Before it reached full production And dan clingensmith has done An amazing job curating Um, this pre-production information. Hello jenna. Uh, nice to see you jenna. Uh, you're you're late But and you don't have to be sorry. We're just happy to have you here Um, so yeah, so um, each each volume covers different characters like There's dusty um And uh, I don't know who else there's there's um zap and uh And the cobra snake armor. So these are great And if you can get your hands on these and I I think you can still order these From uh, see what's the website? I think the website is creating gijo.com Um, google dan clingensmith and you will find it If you can get your hands on these uh for the pre-production stuff for The concept artwork and for information about the designers Uh, these are great. These are great. I love these. I want to get more I will eventually get more right now. I just have a couple volumes, but Uh, super helpful super awesome Um, I do want to touch on something that is important. Um To the history of gi joe collecting. They are not maybe as useful as they used to be Uh, but still an important part of Um Of gi the history of gi joe fandom. Thank you paul mcgill. Thank you very much and thank you for joining us um That would be uh these This is uh these well, I got I've got the volume one And I've got the the collected two volumes here Uh, but this is the first one that came out And this is the official collector's guide to collecting and completing your gi joe figures and accessories by james desimone That's quite a mouthful. That's a long title But uh, james desimone is an important figure in the history of gi joe fandom He organized a lot of the early gi joe conventions Um, he uh, you know was a super collector back before that was really a thing um, and he was one of the authorities on gi joe toys in the The 90s and I think going back to the 80s, uh as well. Oh a killer research sends a super chat Uh, it says if they do bring back 3.7 or ring figures Do you think they will make the colors the same or better? And maybe you make holsters for guns and knives in the mold. Uh, that's a good question Uh, the answer I I'm guessing again. I have no I have no insider information. I am just guessing But um, I do think they would probably update the colors Just I say that just because they are updating the colors on Most of the o-ring figures they are releasing with the haz lab sky striker. Uh, so the they're Uh, doing a night force ripcord. They're doing a pilot scarlet So, um, I updating the colors. I think is a pretty easy update And so I if they do release o-ring figures. I think they will Uh likely do that As far as adding holsters, I would love to see holsters I you know as a kid even playing with the vintage Figures, I kind of wish more of them had holsters. Um, I just don't know if the If the tooling on that would be too expensive Um, that's the thing that I would like for them to do, but I think it's less likely than Uh, them updating the colors. I I I do think the colors will likely be updated um, so this This book it's a it's a thin book and all basically all it is is pictures um And you know it's just basically the Well, it's got you know a list here kind of an index But it's basically just a list or yeah More or less an order list of you know the figures and the years they were released and the accessories that that they came with There's virtually no additional information other than that Uh, but in the days before the internet was prominent, uh, this Would was extremely helpful Um in like the the infancy of yo-jo.com Uh, you know you had to rely on Uh, something like this just to make sure that you got the right accessories with your figures so, um, some modern collectors have, um Like this is the the two volume collected edition two volumes collected in one Book and it has some of the the laders the later, um Figures the the first one I think only goes up. I think this one just goes to 92 if I'm right I think so Uh, 91 91 and 191 92. Yeah, so yeah the index just goes to 1992 This one has, um, the rest including let's see. Well, there's 93 and, um Oh, come on Where was it? Yeah, it has like um The dino hunters and yeah, it has like, um street fighter two included So yeah in the days of the internet and now that the internet is much more prominent and everything's online These may not be as useful as a reference as they once were But this nonetheless really important in the history of collecting gi joe And mark balomo is also a hallowed name in gi joe collecting a very important person who um in a lot of ways kick started collecting of 80s and 90s joes and he did not just collect 80s and 90s joes But he also collected, you know the 12 inch joes from the 60s and 70s So that guy was a wealth of gi joe knowledge um Hello sergeant slaughter slaughterhouse nice to see you. Um, I uh, I think I caught a video on your channel Earlier today if I'm not mistaken. It's been a very busy day. Sorry My memory's a little fuzzy, but I believe I watched one of your videos today But thank you for joining us sergeant slaughter slaughterhouse Um, let's but let's move on and look at um Uh comic tropes asks, uh, did the gi joe dino hunters set come with an actual dino toy? Yeah, it came with a dinosaur. It's a really crappy plastic dinosaur a very non intimidating Dinosaur Uh, but it did come with a dinosaur And nowadays because that set is so rare rare even though the dinosaur is Pretty silly looking. It's very expensive um speaking of Uh the the pricing of vintage gi joe toys this Is uh one of tomarts price guides to gi joe collectibles So, uh, this is something that is fascinating for me, uh, not so much as a reference for the toys Because most of the pages With the exception of and this this does go back to the gi joes of the 60s and 70s But other than these splash pages most of it. Sorry, uh, most of it is Let me get to Yeah, most of it's in black and white Um, it this does include something that the daemon guide did not have and that is Uh carded joes But in addition to that it's got a price guide But here's the problem with print price guides Um, yeah, kelly remus. Yes. The kelly remus interview. That's right. Uh, yeah If you want to see that um a an interview with sergeant slaughter's daughter Uh, say that through you know five times fast. Uh, you should check out, uh, sergeant slaughter slaughterhouse um But yeah, this uh, let's see when this is published Copyright date 1993. Okay. So, uh, it's got some nice photos But the the problem with print price guides is the the prices will be outdated Almost as soon as it's printed and that is something by the way that is true even of Of the bolomo guide Um Which has It has prices Uh, and they're very nicely researched as well researched. There's no question about that The problem is that the the market is so volatile that um I mean you like doing a print price guide you cannot rely on it if You just can't rely on a print price guide a a print price guide is a snapshot Of prices at that time But you you have you you will need to do your own research on prices To update that if you want to know what to reasonably pay um Uh, yeah Coma trope says like your volume channel um for your second channel visiting stuff on your road trip Yes, I did take a road trip you'd ever consider a road trip vlog where you stop advantage toy stores. Absolutely I would um that is something that I would love to do um So let let's let me find an example here. Um, yeah here um the the uh cobra missile command headquarters the seers exclusive the cardboard play set let me find it um Yes, um according to this in 1993 um a boxed example Right there was 200 bucks 200 bucks Hello, Eric Gullinger. Nice to see you. Hey, it's what's on Joe mind. Uh, hello um The you missed the singing cats. We had the singing cats earlier See, this is why you got to show up on on time. You missed the singing cats um, so yeah, these these are fascinating uh, they are of limited use as a Uh as a a reference Other than to reference the history of The toy prices Because this does give you a nice snapshot of Of the aftermarket prices on toys at the time But it's it's like it's it's really difficult to keep a print price guide updated But it's still really cool to have and I in addition to Enjoying the history of gi joe. I also kind of enjoy the history of the gi joe fan community Which by the way, um If you want to have some a window into the history of the gi joe fan community You should listen to the what's on joe mind A podcast and catch their live stream Every week they usually do that on fridays um, the what's on joe mind podcast has been around for years and Listening to that podcast is actually how I learned of you know, some people who were in the community for longer than I was and Learned about things like joe con and um, you know some of the exclusive sets and they also have done a lot of interviews Um with with creators, you know with with you know with larry homo with the kirk bozegian with uh, basically anybody you can think of even some of the uh, the voice cast of the animated series um What's on joe mind is a beautiful fantastic resource. Um, I have now plugged the damn show um, and You know, they should have a t-shirt that says Plugged the damn show. I would wear the t-shirt plugging the damn show You know to plug the damn show There's uh, hello kujo. Um Well, there right there is another one. Um kujo, uh, who is on the team um and has been uh For its history for gi joe burg. Um the primary Um, uh, what's on joe man says will be back live on january 1st cool, um But gi joe burg also really great guys. Love them. Um, most of that team is out of south africa I did have a chance to meet them Uh in um, chattanooga, tennessee for joe con The the south african squad and kujo, uh, actually went to Joe con one year and that was really Uh, really cool. So really awesome to meet them. Uh, but yeah, these these little bits of history Um of not just gi joe, but also a history of the fan community is really fascinating to me. Um A comic tropes says has gi joe toyline ever had any scandals. Oh sort of sort of actually I don't want to go too into that because one of them It's not a super scandal, but it's going to be a partial subject of a future upcoming review Uh, never heard of any issues, uh, like credit plagiarism and so on behind the scenes. I um, nothing like that that i'm aware of My naive naive and or was it a pretty, uh, harmonious team? um, there is um Something that you can watch to get an insider's Uh perspective on that and it just happened to be on the top of my pile here. Um, this is codename blastoff This is a dvd And this is a video about Uh, the development of the gi joe real american hero Uh, toy line In the 80s and it this has tons of interviews Uh of people from hasbro at the time and they do talk a little bit about Uh the office environment and culture. So, uh, this, um, this is something if you have seen Fingate, yes Thank you, uh, uh, jeff, uh non-stop pop. Yes fingate It rattled the gi joe world in 1986 Um, this was made by tristan rudat who is the son of ron rudat Um, and if you have seen The toys that made us episode on gi joe, that's a really good episode. I like that a lot. This is like, um A much more in-depth version of that this has all of that information But a lot more So, yeah, this is um, I've watched this a few times now I need to go back and watch it again. It's been a little while since I have but it's really nicely done. Well done tristan And uh, yeah, this is um, this is a really cool thing. Uh, and that kind of could answer your question Um, where can I find it? I think they have a facebook page That I ordered this from if i'm not mistaken Um, I'll try to find the link for that But uh, this this is really awesome awesome and you know an insider's perspective on, um Uh on the creation of gi joe um, let's see, uh Ray Sheffield, uh, do you know about hasbro 90s color spectrum? Uh guide book for gi joe $1,200. Um, I I believe yes. Oh freak um I one of the books That I was going to show you I don't know where it is. It's not that one Oh, I don't know where it is. There's that, um That 1993 collector's guide, um, which I believe came with the collector's case Um, and I have it And I don't know where it is Well, there you go. There's a whole whole live stream is total failure You know unsubscribe as quickly as you can because I have misplaced A little booklet, but we'll we'll we'll I'll find it later. I'll find it later So, uh, yes, so that's uh, that's operation or I'm sorry not operation, but codename blast off And uh, let's see These let's uh, oh, okay Tom hey comic tropes chris from comic tropes Uh sent this to me This is another extremely valuable resource Um, this is larry hama conversations edited by christopher erving and this is a collection of interviews with larry hama um, and he he talks about a lot of things, but He also talks about gi joe in here and I use this book today to get some information. So, um, this is really cool um larry hama He doesn't do as many interviews Lately Thank you. Thank you comic tropes. Thank you. Oh and david sharp. I I um, I don't think I saw you come in but hello david Thanks for joining and uh Lo 1b o2 Welcome. I don't think I saw you come in uh here either, but welcome. Thanks for joining Uh, and uh chris, uh gadliff. How do you do? So anyway, so yeah, this um, this is a collection of interviews by larry hama and this is uh, amazingly helpful um, but it also shows you I think that um larry whatever question you can probably think of about gi joe larry has probably um already answered it a few hundred times so um His answer is probably in here. Um Yeah, uh case later. You're right. He doesn't do as many many interviews and Yeah, I I'm sure he gets tired of answering this the same questions over and over and over um, but uh, fortunately Somebody has collected a lot of those interviews and so this Um, hello gussie. Uh, thanks for joining So this is really also really helpful um Reverse uh perception. Thank you for joining. Thank you for joining. Uh, yes. Mr. Potato Head was hasbro's first big hit um in the toy uh area I believe before that they were doing like pencils and stuff like that like school supply stuff Uh, and then eventually got into the toy business Um, and I believe their first big hit was mr. Potato Head And that was back when you would use actual potatoes for mr. Potato Head It wasn't the plastic potato body It was a bunch of like pieces for the face and arms and whatever that you would you know, you would Poke into actual potatoes. That was mr. Potato Head um Yeah, and thank you camera and johnson. Thank you very much. Uh, hello gray fox. Uh, I don't remember if I said hello to you But hello um The house that spuds built. Yeah. Hey, it's peg warmers another great Another great youtube channel is peg warmers Um, uh, I forgive you for being late. I'm just happy that you're here Um, and sparkster also does transformers reviews. So you can check out sparkster as well Um, but uh, it's it's nice to see peg warmers. Um peg warmers Great person great channel. Um, and we've got a lot of really uh good, um YouTube content creators in here like jls comics just comic. It said hello to him earlier We got what's on joe mine in here. We got uh, uh comic tropes in here. We got Peg warmers in here. Uh, it's it's it's a hell of a night here I've I should I should be getting you guys autographed Uh, but anyway, thank you comic tropes uh for that. That was very nice We are not done. I have more print material to show you And then after that I I have some comments about um, collecting in general Some comments about collecting Hang on just just bear with me bear with me. But um another thing that is helpful, uh from the publisher of From the publisher of this This tomarts price guide There are tomarts magazine Uh, and these are these cover all kinds of toys Not just gi joe, but they also cover gi joe And you know this these were published when the line was still going on So, uh, this is news and like check this out. This is about, um This this story right here Is about the uh real people Uh who had their likenesses sculpted as gi joe figures. So you've got the figure Next to the actual person Uh, so that is like really really cool Yeah, so uh, yeah, this is this is awesome. Um, so, uh, these turn out to be really helpful Um, there are a lot of volumes and so it may uh take a while to find specifically what you're looking for Because they've had a long publication history. Uh, but these uh actually turn out to be uh really helpful. Um This let's see one of these has a story about the 1994 gi joe convention. I think it's this one actually Uh with some photos from the convention. Maybe it's not this one Uh But it does have um The 30th anniversary Special merchandise there. Uh, so these are really cool. These are super helpful. Um to get, you know, just specific little tidbits of information That that were reported at the time and are not always easy to find online We think that everything is on the internet, but not everything is on the internet. Hello, rob vargas. Um our rob vegas. I'm sorry Rob. Hello, rob vegas. Wow. I really can't read without these. Uh, hello, rob vegas. Thank you for joining I don't think I said hello to you, but thank you for being here. Um Uh, so that's really helpful in addition to that Speaking of sort of magazines At joe con if you went to the gi joe, uh, declassified booth You could pick up these annual joe declassified reports and these Have just lots of things it has like this one covers sigma six I mean, where are you going to find a lot of information about gi joe sigma six? It's an almost forgotten Uh line for gi joe, but some people are interested in it and uh, this is a great resource for it uh, so it's got Yeah, it's got a collector spotlight. Um, this one is covering roger taft. That's cool. Um, and let's see. I think this one has If i'm not mistaken Uh, some unreleased. Um, oh, yeah, look at this This is a whole article on gi joe extreme Uh, this is, um Uh, again gi joe extreme not a well-remembered Series for gi joe, but for those who are interested and remember and collect it It can be hard to find information about it, but here is a whole article about that this also, um Is the issue that memorializes, uh, gary head who was a prominent person in the In the collecting community and did a lot to help Uh find and curate some of the pre-production stuff Gary this uh, um June 24th 1979 to february 7th 2015 Um, I never had the chance to meet gary in person Um, I had talked to him a little bit online and my plan was to connect with him at joe con That year And just uh, you know talk to him hang out with him Uh, I don't know maybe do an interview with him if you would be willing to do that My youtube channel was pretty young at the time Uh, but, uh, I never had a chance to meet him and he passed away Before I had a chance to so, uh, these These are really cool if you can get your hands on them The way to get these was to go to joe con and get them at Uh at the declassified booth Um, what else have I got? Um 3d joes 3d joes.com Carson metaxis He did these really nice foil covered reflective covered Books that are a collection of Uh, the gi joe artwork So you get close-ups of a lot of the carded figures and the vehicle box art You know a nice high resolution um and for the the uh For a reference to the box art This is great, um Because uh, some of this stuff is a little bit hard to find online Um, what fortunately if you go to 3d joes.com You can find nice, uh scans of these But it's really nice to have uh in printed form Um, and you can I mean you can get look up really close at it and get some details Um from this that you might not get Uh, you know from a scan, uh, it's uh It's just a beautiful thing to flip through Uh, there were more volumes than this. I do not have all of them. Quick story about that Um, I I intended to get the entire set Uh at joe con, uh, but I had a hard time getting back to karson's booth because Um, I there was a panel that I wanted to hit Uh, so I hit the panel and then as planned I ran back to the booth to Uh pick up a set of complete set of these And uh the last one had just sold out So, um, yeah that uh that was disappointing disappointing But but I got this one though. I got this one and this is Nice and I have seen the interiors of the uh the other uh books in this set And they are equally lovely like this piece of this piece of artwork right here Uh, which I think um, yeah, it's from the lunchbox. Um, I have the lunchbox somewhere Oh, the lunchbox is right up there. Uh, this is one of my favorite pieces of gi joe artwork. I think this piece of artwork Kb said rip john madden. John madden didn't die. Did john madden die? I'll have to look rest in peace john madden if he passed away. That's That would be very sad. Um Yeah, this this is I love this painted artwork. Uh, this style just, um, makes the characters look very naturalistic Um, it's it's a semi realistic art style and I just I love this and it's just it's Oh like I have the lunchbox and so I have the artwork on the lunchbox, but this is better because it's uh, It's it's cleaner. It's a really high quality scan. It's touched up. So it looks beautiful Um, oh, we passed away today. That's really sad Okay, rest in peace john madden that that's uh I'm a big fan of john madden. That's It was he was an interesting character um All right. Well, we're breaking the news live right here Uh rest in peace john madden I well he was really he got up there and you know That that is someone who had a very rich and full life and you know If you got to go at least you're gonna you should go after having a rich full life So I applaud him for that. I applaud him for that Um, so, uh, I have I have like I have other printed material But this is the last one that I actually pulled down Um, and this is another one that is very helpful and it has multiple volumes, but again, I only have one Um, and this is rank and file This is a guide to four inch gi joe action figures by uh, james cavanaugh jr another um Person of interest person of note in the gi joe fan and collecting community I picked this up at joe con and one of the earlier joe cons that I went to and this Is a guide similar to the desimone guide Of the modern 25th anniversary style Updated articulation and sculpting Joes the four inch scale Joes and this Is something that is often overlooked online. I mean, uh, yo joe has some of this But um, this this is an excellent printed guide For modern joes and I know a lot of fans out there love modern gi joe Well, if you like modern gi joe, this is a great guide and Unfortunately, I was not able to pick up The other volumes again because I was not on the stick and I didn't get them before they sold out, but um So that's all I've got to show you as far as gi joe printed material for collecting and research um I'd like to get more. I know there's a lot more out there. Um I tried to make sure that I got like the most important stuff that would be useful to me as a reviewer So, um Yeah, so I mean that's that's a fair collection, but there's so much more and um It can be difficult to find some of it, uh, and like all of it's out of print Um, so it can depending on what it is. It can be expensive, but Even so I would like to get more. I really love this stuff. I really love, um, the uh The print material Like I said a lot of that information is online, but not all of it. Some of this stuff is Kind of overlooked online. Uh, maybe there aren't a lot of people who collect, you know, some of these specific lines um You know that some of them are are older um And uh, you know, there's not really anybody out there creating An online resource for them So it's nice to find Uh print resources that has a lot of information, especially if it's contemporary Like the the tomarts, uh magazines That um that were contemporary at the time Uh, so, you know, a lot of this stuff was coming out when these were being printed. So Um, that's what I wanted to show you for topic number one. I have topic number two Um, I know it's almost eight o'clock, but I'm gonna keep going Because I want to talk about topic number two Um, okay. Well, I'm sorry. What's the what's the question? Where did I get what? Um Wait, what are we talking about? I'm sorry. I missed something. Where did I get dr. Meinbender? Meinbender number two. I don't know probably ebay or something um Uh Yeah, uh, did anybody come in that I haven't said hello to I think I said hello to Burgess Meredith I if I didn't then hello Bomber monk assassin, how'd he do? Uh, do you know that uh, they're doing a classified series? Uh figure on croc master. Yes, I did know that. Uh, I think it comes out next year. Hey, um, I mentioned what's on joe mind What's on joe mind? um had the uh the secret super special deep throat leak of upcoming classified figures and so far The figures that they leaked that are coming out have turned out to be correct So if you want an inside well not I wouldn't say inside uh, but um How how we put that's like the the the the top secret espionage information on classified Figures and classified line What's on joe mind is is a great source for that a great source for a lot of things But a great source for that as well um So, yeah, I've got I've got something to show you here. I've got I want to I want to uh, uh Switch topics. I want to you know, kind of um Oh the ultimate guide to gi joe. Yes, Burgess Meredith I have the three editions of the uh, ultimate guide to gi joe that is extremely valuable, but let let's uh, let's um Let's switch footing a little bit. I've got a one other topic. I would like to discuss um, and I would like to talk about collecting in general and there are um We we all collect for our own reasons and um, there are a lot of good reasons to collect and really not very many bad reasons to collect I think the only like the only way you could have like a bad Reason or mode of collecting is if it's somehow You know harmed other collectors or you know, uh, did did some kind of damage to the collecting community that That kind of stuff would be kind of um crappy. I can think of a couple examples, but I don't want to call anybody out on it, but There there's a small sliver of collecting that, um Is kind of antagonistic to the rest of the collecting community So, um, so don't do that. You know, that's a bad way to collect, but there are many many money Good and valid reasons to collect and methods of collecting and goals for collecting so, um One one One mode of collecting that is often derided is Collecting for value as it is sometimes called. It's uh, essentially collecting as an investment collecting for the purpose of Selling a product when the price inflates and I'm not talking about scalping that that scalping is a different thing I'm talking about like vintage toy collecting. They're not making more of them. So it's uh, um, you know, you can't like you can't like Snatch up all the pre-orders on target for uh, you know a 1989 figure, but There are some collectors who buy figures with the explicit aim To hold on to it until the price goes up and eventually sell it for profit. Now, that's not what I would do Um Ray asks is form bx 257. Okay. I don't know. I assume he is but I have not heard from him for quite some time um That's not what I would do. Um, the uh Speculation in collecting can Uh, drag down a collecting market In certain circumstances um, and I that's not why I would collect but Uh, it's not always a bad thing because Um, somebody who collects for that reason Um is collecting with the intent of returning those items to the market Which eventually will give Other collectors an opportunity to pick up those toys. They're not going to languish in somebody's collection forever and ever Somebody will eventually get to you know to buy those things and to have them in their own collection um, but the reason The whole thing works right the reason vintage toys appreciate in value is because somebody out there Is collecting not for the purpose of investment, but because they love it, right? They are collecting. Uh, hello evg mz I don't think I said hello to you. Hello and thank you for joining um And that that's really at the core of it in order for a collecting market to Be sustainable there has to be somebody out there collecting because they actually want it. Um Essentially there has to be some love at the core of it Uh, and I think that's absolutely There in the gi joe collecting circles and for a lot of others like um, the star wars, uh, most definitely Um, you know a lot of the the smaller lines like mask. Um There's a lot of love there a lot of nostalgia Um people getting toys that they once had as kids or getting toys that they always wanted to have as kids But didn't have a chance to so now that they are adults they try to pick up those things but But the reason these things become more valuable is um Is because there's love there is love at the center of it Um, and I would like to contrast that With something else um Hello russian person. I have no idea what you said but welcome Um, you're probably spanning my live, uh chat, but Um, uh, you know it it helps the algorithm. So I don't mind Um, so let me contrast that and let me show you something that I picked up a few months ago two things that I picked up a few months ago that are I think perfect examples perfect examples of a A collecting community where there is at its core. I think very little love and a lot of um attempted Collecting for investment a lot of speculation. Okay. Here's the example and this is going to blow you away All right, this is let's see. This is a a um Beanie baby princess bear This is the that stupid one that they did um For the death of princess diana and this is This is um one of the early um This is a third generation tag, but this is one of the the first wave of Uh, beanie babies. This is what is this called again? um A cubby cubby. Okay. So these are beanie babies now. Don't worry. I'm not going to be collecting beanie babies I got these for a purpose. Okay. I got these uh because I was curious about something And so I I I had a point. Okay. Uh, and I'm going to share that with you now. These are both authenticated by the um the authenticating service that that is Does that right? And Because I I got curious about something because you know, I I do a lot of antiquing like I go around in uh antique shops and things like that and uh, and I um, I see a lot of beanie babies And I was curious about it because I I was very well aware that first of all in the 90s, um, there was the beanie baby craze There were conventions, you know, there were websites dedicated to buying and selling them They made up a lot of early ebay like when ebay was in it in its infancy A large percentage of the items sold on ebay were beanie babies um, and I I became very curious And thank you beta ray bob for the super chat to help out with your sky striker and joe fest funds. Thank you We are going to talk about joe fest in a uh, uh soon in a uh a live chat because we are going to make it to joe fest Hello, kyle. Nice to see you. Thank you. Um, so I picked up a couple of vintage price guides Uh, I got these because much much the way that this is a snapshot of the prices of gi joe stuff At the time this was printed So are these um, and I wanted to look these up and do a little bit of research because For example everything that you see in here All of these prices here These are greatly inflated from what is printed here the value on every single item in this book from cover to cover has increased because People get this stuff not just for investment, but because they they want it because they love it, right? um People got these You know, maybe at the beginning people got them because they really liked them There may have been some kids that really liked these but very quickly these became not because not Something that people collected because they liked them not collected out of love but collected because There was a belief that they would continually skyrocket in value which is not possible You get the the um inflation on these stupid things um Was not sustainable and as Everyone should have expected the bottom absolutely fell Through the bottom fell out of that market Um, yes the divorce case chad. Yeah, that's that's the kind of thing. I'm talking about yes Like it was like an action. There was a news story about like This divorcing couple having to divide up their beanie baby collection. Um, it's absurd, but I was curious. So I did some research on my own I I I got a couple for an example and um, I joined a couple, um Facebook groups devoted to beanie babies because I was curious I was curious because now that the Now that the bottom has dropped out of the market. There are some that are still valuable not very many Most of them are virtually worthless because just they made millions of them. They made millions of them There are plentiful even a lot of the variations are there are millions of them Um, but I thought maybe Now decades down the road There is perhaps a core collecting community That can that collects because um Because they they love it Right that maybe maybe that's what's left all the people who are speculating About it all the people who bought, you know truckloads of them Because they thought they that was the retirement fund They're all gone. So maybe what's left are the people who actually care But I'll tell you what I found in those facebook groups It's still mostly the speculators The people who are active there are a few there that are collecting For the purpose of collecting because they like them But almost every post in those facebook groups are about asking how much something's worth What can I sell this for where can I sell it? Is anybody buying this? Is anybody, you know What's this going for now? And by the way, usually the answer is it's not going for very much beanie babies outside of like the the first three generations of of paying tags and And a few others here and there some variations Most of them are Not worth anything the the mcdonalds ones remember the ones that came in the mcdonalds happy meals There were literally hundreds of millions of those made They're never going to be worth anything ever um And yet that's still the focus of Uh of collectors of beanie babies and that I thought was a very interesting contrast if you Uh if you go To the equivalent groups, you know g.i.jo groups on facebook you will see some Posts some buy sell trade posts you will see some Asking, you know, hey, what's this worth and people usually tell them to go research it on ebay, but um but you will Mostly find people who Are collecting because they love it You know, maybe they can't afford to get the high-end stuff. Maybe they can't afford everything Maybe they're just getting, you know, a few items that are important to them But they're getting it because they love it and that is I think Um Something that if you want to have a healthy collecting community, uh, you must have it That that has to be there, uh to some degree And even the people who collect for value, uh, even the people who collect for Um, you know for investment They need that core. They need that core of people who just legitimately want to have those toys or that doesn't work eventually um the speculators Catch on to the fact that you know, uh, there's a lot more of this stuff out there than there are people who want it So the value will fall through the floor um, what continues to Drive up the prices is that um More people who enjoy gijo when they were young Are are still getting into the collecting Now a lot of people who grew up in the 90s Are reaching that age where they're adults and they have some disposable income. So they, um are Starting to collect there. There's still a few, um I think the gijo collecting community still has some room to expand there will still be some people New coming into it and that'll be true for a few years Um before you know, essentially everyone Who was of the age to play with gijo as children Um has come into the collecting community if they're going to Uh, we've still got it. We've still got some expansion to go um, but, um, yeah, I think that's my point is that, um What whatever reason that you have to collect um At the very core, you know, you You should do what you love you should do what you love and seek out the community Excuse me. See you seek out the community Of people who are also doing what they love um And I'll I'll finish with this And thank you for coming to my TED talk I'll finish with this I am I I am now I think so. Oh, thank you. Um rip kaito leary for the super chat only gijo is gijo. See that's what i'm talking about I am not of the opinion that you need to spend a lot of money on something In order to be a real fan All right, I Not everybody has that disposable income and that does not make them a lesser person, right? That does not make them a lesser fan um So it's nice when you can afford to get a bunch of old plastic It's fun. I do it. I enjoy it very much, but not everybody can do that and I think um I think everybody should be able to enjoy being a fan In their own way again with the caveat that if you're doing something that Hurts the other the rest of the community that that's not super cool but um But at least to the extent that you're not harming uh the rest of the community With the way that you collect or the way that you're a fan. Oh, thank you. Um comic tropes Only hoody coco is hoody coco. Hey, I'm hoody coco Uh, happy new year pal. Thank you and happy new year to you as well um so Yeah, I don't want anyone who watches this channel to feel like They need to go out and buy a bunch of stuff In order to be a real fan and to be a part of the community Um, you you do not have to do that Um, you your enthusiasm for something does not have to be tied to spending money um, so Uh, yes peg warmers collecting is a marathon not a sprint. I 100 agree with that. That is absolutely true um, but uh, yeah, so um Yeah, that's a good point sergeant slaughter. Yeah, um sergeant slaughter slaughterhouse. Uh, that's yeah that You don't have to A lot a lot of people even when they're kids didn't necessarily have a lot of toys Maybe they watched the cartoon series. Maybe they Read the comic book But maybe their family couldn't afford a lot of toys, you know that a lot of people were in that position um But uh, but I don't think that makes them any less of a fan um I am I am past the point of Being impressed by big collections I've known a lot of people with huge massive GI joe and other toy collections And some of those people are really awesomely genuinely great people and some of them are rotten and I'm much more interested in How somebody treats other people, you know, I'm much more interested in what kind of person You are than how much plastic stuff um Than how much plastic stuff, uh, you you have at your home Um, does that that makes sense? I hope that makes sense Um, so if you can collect awesome, uh, there it's a very rewarding but very expensive hobby Uh, but if you can't Um, you know stick with us it's Come on be be part of the community We can still enjoy something we can still have something in common and you can still express your um Your fandom In other ways. Hello, w w jd 85. I don't think I saw you come in. Hello. Hello firecrotch. I apologize if I didn't say hello to you as well Hello, um, but now that I've said hello, I think I need to wrap wrap it up We've been going for more than an hour here and my voice is starting to give out Unfortunately, I have some some water here um So to wrap it up. I will say that um Um, yeah a sparkster didn't have the toys as a child to visually watch the cartoon. Um, yeah, well good. Thank you That that's great. Hello. Oh, and thank you chad kimmel for the super chat The last vintage figure I bought wasn't vintage when I bought it, of course I was here for the good company happy new year to everyone. Um, that's what I want to wrap up On, uh, I want to remind everybody that I will be doing a new year's live stream I will be when did I say let's start? I'm gonna I'm starting at some point on new year's eve and I will be going until um one o'clock My time so that will be midnight in the us mountain time zone But I cannot go later than that because I will pass out, but um, I you know, I don't have any Other plans. I don't have there are no parties that I'm going to So, um, you know a lot of you guys are gonna have other things to do and that's cool But some of you won't and maybe some of you might even be a little bit lonely on new year's eve Well, just join us here. Just just tune in and we will ring in the new year together So, uh, that will be our countdown to 2020. So that is coming up on Uh, what is that? Friday is is new year's eve. So it's coming up on the year's eve. Please join us for that I've really got to wrap it up here because my voice is giving out, but Uh, thank you everyone for watching. It's been a lot of fun. It's I've really enjoyed, um, the discussion Uh, I enjoyed going through, you know, all the all these books and things that have been on my shelf forever I I'd love to get more of them. Uh, but yeah, thank you for uh chatting. Thank you for talking and um, I think I'm gonna say good night. So good night everyone and I will see you For new year's eve. Bye. Bye. Bye everyone