 It's 33. That's probably yours. I'm trying to get Zoe on. Oh, I just texted Dave. He's back again in a moment. He's been out there. Yeah, she said it was not the answer to what she was saying. Just keep saying join me. I'm not sure if this is from a phone. I'm not sure. Just keep saying join me. But it doesn't mean it has to be a long, easy. It's just because of the people we are in the video. So we know we've done that. OK, Ruby, would you set it up so that we can see the people with their videos up? Do you know how to do that? Yes. There's seven people on. So you're showing them? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, OK. Sure. So one next. Yeah, there we go. Thank you. So she's coming in the audio. OK. Zoe, can you hear us? Zoe, can you hear us? What's Rosie saying? Rosie says she can hear us. OK, she's on the phone. She's on the phone and on line. OK, thank you. It's going to be a long one. I mean, I haven't noticed in the past, but is this going to be a sad meeting? A sad meeting? Is there always this amount of tissues around? I didn't know. I didn't have anything to do with tissues. OK, I was just curious whether it was going to be a sad meeting or not, just because there's a lot of tissues. It's a legitimate question, isn't it? Michelle responded, she can hear fine. OK. Good. It looks like Zoe went away again. So you must be having some technical knowledge. Could be technical, I'm sure. Could do that, too. Could be electronics. That's right. I guess it will be a late meeting. Are you sad? Are you sad? No, no, not at all. I never noticed we had so many boxes of tissues here. I'm OK. So she's going to try to get a different device to connect. OK. What do you want to do, Mr. Chair? Yeah, go on. Yeah. Are there any additions to the agenda? Are we recording? Yes. I heard that you'd, I think, yeah. There's an addition, that's from Recreation Board, for you to be sponsored by Recreation Peel. Simply think, if we remove it, OK. So there's a reduction or removal of the addition as well. Yeah, I was going to fill the, like, we're getting on to Sibley by the end of years ago. That's OK. Review of minutes, March 4th. I'm reading the entire four minutes. Yeah. That's not the ones we were discussing. Are they? Yep. Are we? Is that March 4th? March 4th, yep. Oh, we are. And the tone select for a meeting there. Right, they're on the same page. Or, yeah, I have a piece of paper. Yeah, I've got an extra copy. Oh, we've got to, I give the whole time, so I don't want to. I'll make a motion to accept the minutes. I'm not aware of what it holds. I will make a motion to amend the minutes. Well, I'm just, yeah. Yeah, it's not fair to conclude. You don't have to make a motion to amend the minutes, do you? I will second a motion to accept the minutes as amended. That's good. And here's the amendment. It's trivial, but in the town forum, Article 15 is fine, but then there shouldn't be a bullet underneath it. That's a continuation of that line. So it's just a little type setting. I wouldn't accept that. Otherwise, it'll look great. OK. Any more comment on the minutes? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. The ayes appear to have or the two haven't? OK. Public comment. You public? Nope. Nope. OK. Where's your next agenda item? Oh, OK. I didn't know. Now, Andy won. What's that? Zoe's on. Zoe's on. Can you hear us, Zoe? And we can hear you. Super. Now, Andy was going to zoom in. I sent him an email that said it would be 640. We're pretty close. But I don't know if he got it. So town garage project owner's representative, consideration of contract with V-I-S-C-C-L-L-C. You gentlemen? Yes. Am I stretching it by calling you gentlemen? Yeah. You OK with that? I'm good with it. OK. So do you want to come up, or are you comfortable from talking from there? Whatever you want us to do. Much, much, much, come sit. Come on up. Go sit so everybody can see on you. Yeah. There's three or 400 people online right now. OK. OK. You can sit down. Chair's right there. Get out the center floor. Take a little off your feet. OK, so we have a contract from you? Yep, I'll see the contract. OK. And which one of you gentlemen are going to be the owner's rep, or are you both? I'm Mark Blanchard. I will probably do the lion's share of the work. And this is Dave Armstrong. He works for us. He would be my backup in the event that the second person in command. Yeah. OK. So what do you have for questions or? I don't have any questions for you. I don't think. I mean, I think you guys are in the early stages of a town garage. And it looks like a nice project. Contracted with an architect, I believe. Yep, they're doing a sketch plan. And you're looking for someone to kind of guide you through the process. Represent us. Yeah. And protect us. And protect us. Financially, quality-wise. Body-wise, we should be able to come up. Body-wise, Scott wants three bodyguards. So mostly in the beginning is a sketch plan. Yeah. That's what they're doing. And then we don't know how much further it's going to go beyond that, because after that, we have to put it out to the town. And we'll see what happens with that. So do you have a schedule when you want to put that out to vote? Like just November or March? No, no. What was the schedule, Jane? Do you remember? They're going to finish the sketch plan. It would be pretty accelerated. Yeah, I mean, I think it would be a special. Yeah, I think it would be a special vote. Yeah, you're going to do a special vote. I think it may be ready by summer. But you've got to present it to the town. So that's where the architects are going to help us. And hopefully, you will, too, because we'll have to have a series of forums or something. Do you have a building today? No. OK. We're kind of ad hoc. I've been on it. Yeah. So you're going to have to report to the select board, basically. Yeah. I think that's something you should discuss. Yeah. Just so you all know, I'm actually leaving my position effectively for you. So I think something also for you all to communicate is, who is their point of contact? How do you want the communication to flow between all stakeholders that are part of this project? So basically, we would need to be filled in, as a select board, at our meetings. Now, if there's nothing to report, you probably should say that to whoever's sitting in the office, taking Gina's place. Or you can communicate with me as a chair of the select board. So if there's something oppressing nature, then you email me. Yeah. OK. And we don't want to waste your time, or we don't want to get built for someone who doesn't have a place to stay. I don't mind zooming in either. Yeah, that's probably what you're going to be doing. Yeah, if there was something really magical, I would come. So I do have one question. So I see you've got a total budget here, but I assume everything is done by the hour? It is, unless you want it on to exceed, but typically it's done by the hour. I used to do this type of work. I just wanted to make sure. Just point of order, Andy Shapiro was unable to get into the Zoom, and so he called me, and I put him on loudspeaker here. So hopefully he'll be able to hear him. Can you hear me, Sandy? OK, yes, I can. Thank you. Is that the loudest that thing goes? OK. So Andy Shapiro is sort of on the building committee also. And he works in public works. He's a town citizen with a lot of experience in building and energy. In efficiency. Yeah. OK, so he's been on the meetings that I've been in. He and I have been meeting with the architects, and Gina has been also, and also a road foreman, Guthrie Perry. So Guthrie is actually on. So to introduce you to Guthrie, that is the road foreman. So he is, yes, he is the main guy. You know that is the road foreman. Oh, that's a road foreman. So that would be your head of public works that will. And we're going to need the building after him. So of course you'll be in touch with him. Right, right. Well, that's what I'm trying to, you know, that when it comes to concerns about design or things like that. So you've got the road foreman. You've got myself. You get the email. You've got the slack board that you should report to at all our meetings. And it can be just a Zoom. Nothing to say. See you later bye. Or it can be blah, blah, blah. So blah, blah, blah. After a while gets tired of blah, blah, blah. But there are important things. And if I can just add, just through the process, obviously very preliminary, there's been a lot of questions about costs, about the building, what to mean. And we've been trying to sell the initial phase of having you guys on hand. You're not GC per se, but you're like a member of the town that wants their money protected and everything built up to standards or whatever as a comfort level. Seth has stressed that many times already. We do a lot of estimating. I think you said something there about working for sure. We're familiar with these types of building. I've just recently an estimated one in upstate New York. And of course, we've done several of them in Vermont and not recently as far as the public work one. But we're a lot of familiarity with types of designs and building choices and those types of issues, which I would gladly confate you as they come up. Andy is an important person to keep in the circle. Yeah, because he's really crack a jack on efficiency. And he's gone through his process with other buildings all over the state. So he's a great person to get in touch with. So I think you should have, you know, Gathley's contact information, mine, Andy's. And then, of course, the select board, you know, tune in at the meetings. You'll get that agenda. We'll have them get your emails. Maybe we'll attend some of the meetings. Well, or if it's funny. You can only watch work of stuff online. Yeah, yeah. So basically, you'll be representing our best interests. I'm sure you're familiar with that. Absolutely, Andy's saying something. Are you trying to get our attention, Andy? Are you trying to get our attention? OK, could you mute yourself then if you're talking to somebody else there? Thank you. So the intent of this, who dictates the schedule, is usually either us, the owner's rep, or the select board, or the building committee. And sometimes you want to make sure that you're keeping the architect in step. And we are comfortable doing that. And if you don't want us to keep them in step, we don't have to. Well, I think that they're in step right now, right? Is that correct, Gina? They've had some meetings with Gathley, meetings with Gina. And your voice doesn't have to be a loudest in the room. But you need to be kind of positive. Well, just sometimes the software liners, like, oh, yeah. We want to see this in three weeks. It's been three weeks. Is it done? They have a pretty aggressive schedule with us. So I think it's going to work out pretty well as far as that goes. Good, so a lot of stuff, and a lot of involvement are ours on our part in the beginning. Once we get a vote through, and we start to build. Now, are you comfortable with attending the forums that we're going to have? Oh, yeah. Because it's going to be a lot of information that we're trying to present at the town forums. And also, we're trying to lead townspeople in our direction. And there's going to be a lot of questions about design, et cetera, et cetera. So the more hands we have on deck for those processes, the better. So do you know what you have in mind of a budget? Budget for you? No, not our entire project. Well, we've got kind of a general ballpark, what it could cost. But we haven't got specific details yet, because we're still in the beginning of it. And how many? We just did square footage at the house. Oh, it's like eight or something. Yeah. It's a 9,000 square feet, or 8,750 square feet. Yeah, because we just chime in if you've got any. 9,000 is good enough for that. Yeah, it's a little under that, I think. Yeah, I think the generic number right now is about 8,700 square feet. So it'll be. How many vehicles? It'll have five. That'll have six vehicle bays, and then one bay that will be able to house multiple pieces of equipment. The way that we're, what seems the most feasible right now of the couple of designs that we've kind of started to look at. So we're right in the infancy. Yeah. I can send you, though, kind of where we are right now with the architects. They sent us a good email recently, I don't know, two weeks or so ago, with kind of the preliminary thoughts on where they're going, because that's what they keep reaching out to Guthrie and I about with questions. Guthrie provided them an inventory of everything that will need to go into the garage so they were working on placing everything in the floor plan to make sure everything is going to fit and get him the, basically, how he can function, getting everything in and out based on specifications that Guthrie's already provided. So they've been great to work with, asking Guthrie questions. Every meeting we've had with them, Guthrie's walking them through how he plans to use the building. And his needs. Yeah, exactly. Which all of that's come from buildings that we went into, we're in all honesty. I mean, that's a few things from our old building that we like, and then quite a few things from more modern buildings that seem very efficient. And it's on the same side? Yeah. Yeah, so I thought. Yeah. A little closer to the road, but the same side. Yeah. Nothing's in stone yet. Right, we're working on it. You working on moving it? No. Who knows? Well, yeah, I mean, at this point, I don't want to over design it until the voters say yes. I mean, I've been through several of these from that sitting where you guys are, and it's a big chore to get it across. Yeah, yeah it is. So, and who knows? This came up at town meeting. We had a bit of a presentation, and people think it was a good idea. They just don't think we should have it there or have it, have a new container on it. So, you know, and with taxes going way up. Oh, I know. It's hard, you know. You didn't do it at town meeting. Well, we talked about it at town meeting, and we didn't have the vote, obviously, but we talked about it, but you know, town meeting a hundred people is 23, 2400 voters in East Montpellier, so. It's a very few people. How many voters do you actually get? 6, 700? At town meeting? No, no, out there and about. Oh, how many did we get? 800 or 800, that was 800, I think. Yeah, see, what was the total vote count? I think it was 800 or 900. I think it was 900. Yeah. It's not bad because we mail the votes. Mail the ballots, I mean. And that really does spur voter participation, actually. So, we've had really good luck doing that. You're gonna do the same with the town building? You're gonna mail the votes? I think we should. I mean, it's the town's money and garage. I mean, we want to reach as many people as possible and that's the best way to do it. I mean, if they don't want a town garage, we don't want to just have 200 people voting yes. Yeah, I mean, right? That's not what we're here for. As much as we may want it. But, I mean, they know, I mean, how old is the town garage? Well, it's around 155. Well, it was built in 1950. 1950. Yeah, it's older than me. And that's old. That's old. Not that far from me, though. Really? So anyway, yeah, we'll probably do the mail and think it will reach more people. And in person, I mean, who do you vote? Well, of course, yeah. So anyway. Any more questions? I don't have any questions. You know, I'm kind of looking forward to it. Another, I like municipal, municipality projects and I think it should be good. Yeah, yeah. Just, you're going to watch our ass. Yeah, seriously. So I'm going to leave these cards. Not too many people use them nowadays, but. That's OK. I'll take one. Put one in your wallet. Then you'll just need contact info. Yeah. And be having I, mainly, we have another kind of office guy who runs the office, but he doesn't have to stay involved in this project now that it's a project. So yeah. OK. OK. Perfect. I'm looking forward to working with you. Yes. Just what is your background? I mean, what is your certifications or? I am a HVAC guy, a service guy in my 20s. And I became and got into facilities. And then I became an owner's rep, where I've reped owners in different projects, mostly at a hospital. Buildings? Yeah, hospital buildings. OK. And the hospital builds all kinds of buildings. They build storage buildings. And they build clinics and office buildings. So that's where I got to experience the ground, the footing to finish experience. But my expertise is in HVAC, electrical systems, those parts there of energy efficiency. Got a couple of awards with energy efficiency. And then I ended up purchasing this company in 2018. OK. So nice. And I've done everything. I was at actually GMTA for seven years. So I'm familiar with the town and was here with a lot of life board meetings a couple of years ago. And then I got my teaching license that didn't pan out and construction for a few years. And now with Mark, most recently, I'm at Burlington High School now overseeing that project. Which high school? Burlington. OK. Was at the South Burlington prison for six, eight months watching them do a new roof. So yeah, that's my nutshell. OK. I was on the slack board in Springfield also in early 2000. So we did a police station. Did the same where you guys are from, you know that. Yeah, that's the vault. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Anyways, if you're all good with us, I'm sure I'll see you. I think we are. We just could have made a motion to accept the contract, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm sure. Somebody assigned to accept the contract. That's good. Second. I just want to introduce myself to you. I'll be working on the energy efficiency and embodied carbon in the building. We're going to look at, we set up here a piece. So we'll look at a couple of different options for mechanicals and for building enclosure. And I'll be doing energy modeling and looking at operating costs. And then we'll compare any kind of savings we can get with what's the incremental cost to do those things so we can make some informed decisions about how far we want to go on efficiency on the building. We've got a very good engineering team on it who's done a bunch of garages. Dan Dupers said engineering services at Vermont. So he's got some great ideas about how to make this thing really good and not so expensive to build too. So I'm looking forward to that. Is engineering services at Vermont the engineer of choice? Yes. OK. Excellent choice. Dan Dupers, great choice. And we've got engineering ventures on structural. Good. That shouldn't be too much structural. OK. They're a good team, they're a good team member. Also, yeah, EVI work with them all time. Good. That sounds exciting. Yeah, it is going to be fun. It's going to be fun. Check it out, see if it gets by the voters first. Yeah, exactly. That's right. Smallish. But we're all part of that presentation, so that's our job, is to get that out there and. But for you to give the voters the comfort that, as I mentioned before. We're all positive spin and good, clear presentation. And we will represent it. You're on our side, not theirs. Right. That's the point, the important distinction. Well, that's how we've been selling it. All right, well, thank you. Thank you. Hey, Andy. Andy. I'm going to go on a practice vote tomorrow. Yeah. OK. Andy, thank you for being on board. You're going to be a huge help. Thank you. Sorry, I couldn't be there in person. That's OK. Maybe we'll someday we'll see you again. I think we hope so. I think we hope so. You look good on Carl's cell phone. Oh, really? So the motion is to authorize the town administrator to sign the contract with VIS. The CC, Tom made, and I seconded it. Any further discussion? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. The ayes appear to have or they do have it? Who's signing this thing? I can sign it. You can sign? OK. I will sign it and send it to them tomorrow. OK, perfect. We just authorized her to do that. What's that? We just authorized her to do that. OK, yeah. Sounds good. The next, we're slightly ahead of schedule. Is that OK, Scott? All right, I'll see you all. Bye. OK, we'll see you, Andy. Thank you. Select board rules of transaction. We've got these right here. We need to accept these as the rules. Procedure as last year. Yep. Who would make a motion to accept as written? Yeah, I would. Oh. I'm just looking at the rules of order being covered by Robert's rules of order, 2020 edition. I have come across in a different context just a realization of a limitation when they keep revising that to refer to an older one and then we go out and buy a newer one. So I don't know off hand which one we have over there on our shelf. 2020, I bet. It might be. But just for future purposes of keeping this up to date, should we just say the most recent addition? I think we should. OK. Yeah, but this may not follow the most recent addition. That's true. Well, if this. Oh, you're just saying the meeting shall be governed by the most recent addition. Yeah. Of Robert's rules. Of Robert's rules. Yeah, Robert's rules. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. I read the Wall Street Journal and Barron's. Carr reads. Robert's rules. Most up-to-date Robert's rules. So it's. Sure. I defer to my colleague. OK. OK. So is the motion going to be changed at all? I was wondering if the motion was going to be changed at all for the minutes based on. Is it going to be? Or you just want to say change that. The recent addition was updated to Robert's rules. Yeah. OK. Thank you, Zoe. OK. So we do have a motion. I have no second. OK. I made the motion. Yeah. Who made the motion? You made the motion? I made the motion. OK. He's going to second. Tom's going to second. OK. If we arm wrestle, I'll probably lose. I think you will. And the motion is to accept the 2024 Select Board rules of transaction as put forth with the amendment of Robert's rules of order. The parenthesis now reads the most recent addition. Is that clear, Zoe? Pretty much, yeah. OK. OK. Any further discussion? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. The ayes appear to have it or do have it. OK. So that is done. All right. Lots of tree shit now. I mean, tree things now. What did you say? I said, lots of tree shit now. I mean, things now. OK. Select board organization. So we need chairman, vice chair. I nominate Seth Gardner to chair the Select Board. I will second that. I'm not supposed to. That's right. I am the chair of this section of the meeting, as vice chair. So Scott has nominated Seth Gardner for chair. And as Zoe has seconded it, is there any discussion? Seeing none. All those in favor, please indicate by saying aye. Aye. I recuse myself. Motion passes 4-0-0-1. Seth recused. Gotcha. Mr. Chair. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You've done a great job. Well, it's an evolutionary process. You learn as you go. But thank you very much for the vote of conference. I think it'll be a great year. And we'll see what happens. Lots of challenges ahead, but it's exciting, too. So vice chair. I nominate Zoe Christensen to be vice chair. I'll second that. Any further discussion? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Everybody so happy, the bells are ringing, Zoe. I'm shocked. Yes, sir. I would like to be reflected in the minutes thanking Carl and Iyer for his past service as an excellent select board vice chair. I'd like to please record it in the minutes. Yeah, and the nice thing is that we'll still have Carl's advice from time to time on various rules. I still get to sit at the flat part of the room, I hope. Yeah. Oh, is that what you're looking for? Yeah. The emeritus vice chair gets to sit wherever you want. That's the only reason why I agreed that I might step up to this room. Well, too bad. Leaving the slant. About getting something built here to straighten out the floor so that people don't have to sit sideways and hurt their backs. Oh. Might help my back over there. I'm willing to try it. OK. OK. What else do we have to elect? That's it. So we're going to X off through questions simply for him? Yeah. Now, so I want to say something about the future meeting. They just were not ready. They're still gathering information. So when I sent out the agenda, the response I got was that they're not they wouldn't be ready. So the planning commission changed the rules for that, for them, back when I was on the planning commission, to make sure they could do the wedding activities in that barn. Because in that zone that they're in, it wasn't allowed. The zoning. So I'm not sure what I don't really think any specifics about what exactly it is that they're well, what they're saying is because the town holds the easement in conjunction with the land trust is that we need to be consulted when they're doing well, they don't, we don't. I mean, just do it. That's like the land trust telling me I need to report in to them. I've never bothered. And life goes on. And they send out a new person every year. Oh, I'm like, oh, I never saw you before. Well, you know, so it's not like it's a process where there's a lot of oversight on what you do. So we're certainly not going to go to the Sibley Farm and say, oh, you're doing a wedding? I mean, come on. That's your business. Right? Yeah. So we are quite finished with the rules of transaction. According to the annotated memo, we're supposed to authorize someone to sign payroll warrants, payroll vendor warrants, and special expense warrants when due dates don't align with meeting dates. And we can authorize an alternate. So I would move to authorize the chair to sign those. And the vice chair to be the alternate. Yeah. That would work really well. Second. All those in favor? Aye. Please say aye. I mean, I've been doing the payroll warrants. I don't mind doing it. At some point, I'm going to say bye-bye. If Zoe's the alternate and she lives not too far away, it works pretty well. If you're on the other side of town and you've got to keep doing the payroll warrants, it can be a pain. But if you're going by the town office, if you find a mistake, then they've got to redo it. Then you've got to come back the next day, then you've got to do this. And it's like, gee, you could be here two or three times a week. Oh, really? Yeah, oh, yeah. But if you're going by, it's not a big deal. If you're over on a payroll war, it's kind of a pain. Yeah, it's a pain. It's a half an hour. Yeah. If you're available. OK, so we're done with that. OK. So consideration of big responses for 2024 Ash Tree Management Project. So we're ahead of schedule. So we will have. Oh, OK, yeah. We have Guthrie on, but we don't have Jeff Cueto or. OK, because they're going to be. They would be here speaking to you. OK, let's. Yeah. Now, Michelle is on for treasurer. Yeah. And the next items are treasurer. So Michelle, if you can hear us, we can go ahead. Yeah, we can do that and just wait for this one. Can you hear us, Michelle? I'm here. Hello. Can they hear me? Hi, I can hear you. OK, hi. So ahead of schedule, can we do your report and also the consideration new vendor? Yes, you can. I'm here. I'm ready. I'm ready. OK. So the Treasury reports. There's nothing new on that a little bit, but the financials are good. Not anything. Nothing's jumping out. OK, put on schedule with expenses. Yes, one question. Sure, Mr. Chair, please. Great work on investing our money, my mantra, since basically for 52 weeks ago. Is there anything else that we can kind of max out with? Is every dollar, at least in a money market fund, I mean, some of the cash in the checking account, is there anything more we can do? Maybe down the road, I don't want to jump too far and do that just yet. We have a lot of money put away in the investment. So we do like to keep a little in the main checking because we have to pay the school in June. So there's still some money in there. But I mean, I think we're good. We have everything invested and nothing's due, and we're getting higher rates, and we're doing well. OK. Yeah, I'm going to have some money. Well, I know, everything's liquid. You can sell it to CD. You can sell a T-bill tomorrow. We have a big payment coming up, though, and by June for the school. It's like $2 million. So that's all. No, no, no, no, this is your job, and this is awesome. Thank you. I just, you're maxing it out. You know what to do. OK, thank you. Thank you very much. Much appreciated. You're welcome. OK. OK, so you don't have anything new on the monthly financial reporting package? No. OK. OK. And then the other thing you want to talk about was consideration of new vendor for town online people. I have one other quick question. Did we have updates? How was the tax receipts? Was there maybe because it was at the last meeting? We made them in April, right? Sorry, I can't hear what you're asking. How much tax receipts are still outstanding? No, it's very small. You're talking about delinquent taxes? Tax sales. The tax sale never happened because everybody either paid or is on a payment plan. OK. So our delinquent taxes are small, so they've been in years and years and years. 34,000. Yeah. Just 47,000, right? 34. 34,000. 34,000 is outstanding. Yeah, it's usually 100. I know. Close to 200. Yeah. It's nothing. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Good job. Thank you. Thank you. End of conversation. Good. Thank you. OK, so the next thing you want to talk about was the change of vendor and that's for the tax. It's for the payment portal online. Yeah. Who we currently are contracted with it ends April 9th. And both neither company charges us any money at all. They just are providing the service to us, but they charge fees to the people who use the service. That's how they make their money. But this company is one who does it with. Municipate does all municipal, a lot of municipals. They know how to deal with municipals. The company that we're currently contracted with is terrible. That's my feeling about it, but it's confusing. They're online portals terrible. Their reporting is horrible. Their customer service isn't good. Municipate seems to know what municipals need and they cover it. How do you really feel about the current company? Sorry. I'm just going to tell you how I feel. Well, thank you for the great report. So you're going to switch? Yes. Yes. I'd like to switch. I need a motion to be able to do that, I think. So they charge for an ACH, huh? Interesting. Yeah. Well, they both do. Both companies charge. Okay. I guess I never noticed. So the fees are comparable. The only one big difference is that on municipate, there's a minimum fee of $3. So people who are paying like a $9 dog tag are going to be charged more for that. Unless they come in with a check. Oh, cash? Do you ever hear of cash? Like greenbacks? I have. Back years ago? Okay. Some people paying cash. I always pay my tax bill in cash. Oh, you do? Okay. Pennies. Doll bills. I'm sure there are. Okay. So I think it's a good idea. Okay. So you see a motion under the table. Yeah. Yep. I got to get it going so that everything's set up. Which I never, which I've never been able to do. I make a motion to engage municy pay as our new vendor. Is there a term on this for. Um, five years. Yes. I don't know what the term is. I will find out. I'm not sure. I'm, I don't, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think it's a good question. Month to month or day to day. Yeah. I'm just questioning because the last one was five years. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I would find out. If there is none, and that's even better. I've used this one before that in a different town. And I really liked it. So I'm familiar with it as well. Emotion still stands. Do we have a second on that? Tom second. Because what are we doing for the year just contracting with them for whatever year? Maybe it may not be a contract. It might be day-to-day. I think there's probably no longer than five years That sounds reasonable. That sounds good. Yeah Up to a no longer than or zero zero to five zero to five years I'm just wondering what this document was that says municipay at the top. That's on the website I got it right here. It seems to be signed by somebody A subscriber and n-i-c-s. Is this some other towns? I think those are just the old contracts you're looking at for each I don't I'm not sure but I think Yeah, that's that's really a company. Yeah, it's just showing you the terms on like the difference in the two contracts Oh, okay. That's confusing because it says municipay at the top, but then the second page is schedule a Yeah, and that's v.i. That's the company the second That's v.i.c. Yeah, okay. That's the one we're getting rid of Okay, and then do we need to buy new equipment for 229 dollars for municipay? We don't think we need it Because they can most people go through the pay portal online and the ones that come in We can do it through the pay portal ourselves online. We don't really need a machine So we don't think we need to spend the money Okay, that's good. It says if applicable. Yeah, right, right. Yes Scott So there's no there's no change right now to the Taxpayer so for instance my I pay I pay through a ch you automatically sent me a bill Two months ahead or a month ahead and then it just comes out on that day Well, we don't have to do anything. That's a different That's different. That's not a pay portal That's direct debit Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's different. That's a that's a different thing different program But my point is I don't have to do anything differently. No, you don't you shouldn't It won't look any different for people It won't look any different for customers when they when they go in I don't think it's going to look that much different Maybe slightly but I it's going to look pretty much the same Okay, so We have a motion Zoe Did we decide to amend the motion to be between zero and five years? Yeah, yes Yeah, yeah to be no more than five years And authorize the town treasurer to sign them Okay, yeah and authorize the town treasurer to sign the contract. Did you hear that Zoe? So we have a motion and who was the second Times the second and is there any more discussion? All those in favor, please say aye. All right. The odds appear to happen. They do have it. Okay. Thank you. Thank you All right. Bye. Have a nice night. Are you leaving us? Have a good life Okay, so we're still a little ahead of schedule um We could do the local hazard medication. Okay. Yeah, let's do that right So you've got four bids. It looks like yes Yeah, and which one are you recommending? Well Central Vermont Regional Planning Commissioners who did it last time. Yes, I remember that so they would have intimate familiarity with Okay, not only the plan but also the town. Yeah And it's in our interest to I mean they are The second highest bidder out of four, but it is in our interest to Help to support them and help them continue their Connection with the town because we will be doing other projects with them I think I think it's a good choice And it's all of these are within the grant funding that we have available. Okay. What how much is the grant that we can get? Okay, all right And this is apples to apple and the work is apples to apples. Yeah. Yeah. What was the question Zoe? 97 I think it's 97 I don't have the exact number around 97 Plus or minus, okay I mean all of these vendors, of course are Good, they Have done them in the state in the past, but right regional planning We have worked with in the past so Yeah That was probably the last one. I thought it was recently went pretty well Yep, there was a bunch of us in the room. I remember that But the person that we had led us along really well The big help Any of the work that we've had them do for the planning commission. We've been very happy with yeah, same kind of same kind of thing Yeah, it was great. So First and this end is usually good They move it along So I'd say we I moved to authorize the government administrator to sign the contract with the central vermont regional planning commission to provide local hazard mitigation planning services I'll second that Scott Scott did it first You do the second Scott. Yeah, okay The new vice chair pull it can pull right. Yeah, but I can't you know I'll be the referee here and I heard your voice first. Okay. So sorry Zoe. Okay. Sorry Zoe um Any further discussion All those in favor, please say aye I appear to have that you have it So Jeff are you ready to do the consideration bid responses or is there somebody else coming from me? Good evening. Good evening Um, I think We can we can fit something else in if you want to wait for him it's up to you Okay All right, so basically, uh, we opened bids on We opened bids on friday Uh This was divided into two different projects. Uh The adamant project is the one that had received a grant from the state Uh, since they consider adamant to be a urban center Uh, so they have special grants this year Um, and that's uh what we received for adamant the other other project brasure and lial young roads, um Was a separate application and we didn't get a grant for that And what we had applied for was uh caring for canopies grant, which is what we had received in the past Uh for other projects So adamant the urban centers Grant just pertain to work within one mile of adamant But for the purposes of putting it out to bid uh that project we extended to uh, um Dodge road basically to uh finish removing ash trees on on center road Uh, so that one covered center road agate road and sodom pond road And the other ones brasure and lial young road um, so as as you can see, um We had quite a competition Uh in terms of bidding, which I think everybody's pretty happy about Uh and quite a range of bids um Two of the two of the ones of the two low bids Uh berries forest products and lg ferno forest products um Fairly close in terms of bids about thousand dollars park Both of those they're loggers and they would be Using a feller buncher to do the work So this would be different than how we've done projects in the past Uh using arborists and a pocket truck and kind of the conventional approach to doing it um Guthrie had met with uh both of those uh bidders um all and I and uh Guthrie met with berries forest products um The resilient roads committee met this morning at the old town garage um and uh Discuss the bidders and the consensus of our committee was to recommend Uh using berries forest products um One of the things we had also discussed um This would be For the two projects. It's about three hundred eighty ash trees all together um To date we've done roughly eight hundred trees out of the 2400 more or less ash trees that we Inventoried back five years ago. Um, so we're like a third of the way there now and uh, so this had add And substantially this year seeing as we beefed up our budget for ash tree removal So we had talked about spending up to sixty thousand dollars. We got the seven thousand dollar grant um, and one thing we wanted to explore if um If the select board favors berries forest products as we recommend um We cost cost for trees one hundred twenty three dollars Uh the past two years we were spending one hundred forty nine dollars per tree so we're actually per tree cost came down this year, uh, which is good and uh seeing as we're We'll be spending quite a bit less than our budget Uh to do this work. Um, we think there's opportunity to add a few trees. So we discussed Maybe doing two or three other roads. Um, if uh Berries forest products, uh Would be interested in expanding the project um, we'd expect Um from what they were telling us that this work could proceed much more quickly Um using the the feller buncher um So we should be able to Stay on schedule and perhaps fit in some additional work. Um And that would be our recommendation um There might you know, it it's sort of um We wouldn't want to Sign them up to do the initial or the additional work right off until we actually saw Uh, how well the feller bunchers uh performed in terms of um Leavening collateral damage Uh to nearby trees is one of the things that uh We have a bit of concern about um, but we think uh We were talking about just driving around flagging uh locations where that would be issue and then they would uh Proceed with cutting those specific ash trees a little bit differently in order to protect adjacent high-value trees um, so that's That's sort of it in a nutshell I'd mention also that this is the year that uh We'd have Montpelier coming up to do some treatment of ash trees if you recall we have five five trees that we Treated a couple years well three years ago and uh, so we're on a three-year cycle and Uh, they're supposed to be here this spring to uh do the treatment um Yes Guthrie did you want to add anything? The only thing I would add is uh, like we discussed this morning Was that uh, you know in the long run they are all Any contractor that has this they're all held to the same standard as far as the end The end product that they produce for us So that's one thing that we did discuss quite a bit this morning and that I think keeping that in mind is going to be key and the other part of The roads being congested is going to be significantly less From what we've discussed with both both contractors, so um I think I think that's all things to take into consideration being such a Being a bigger project than we've done in the last four years We got a question talk. Yeah So I noticed in their bid they did not include traffic control. Did you discuss that with them at all? Yes, I discussed that with any contractor that got a hold of me about it And that was that We are going to close the road to everyone other than residents even if it is the other Con any anyone that we would hire It'll be like closed driveway to driveway as they go down the road as they work down the road So it wouldn't just be close hard obviously Everyone needs to get in and out But it'll be a very small segment where they're working would be closed off to everything while they're working that area The reason we do that is traffic control comes up at nearly a thousand dollars a day on the average so when you're talking about Having them here for three or four weeks you can spend You know $20,000 in four weeks on flaggers. So that passes right along to us and That it's just it it drives the price sky high instantly so Thank you So you you guys are both comfortable with Barry's uh farce products That was the consensus of the committee today Yeah, they're just doing they're using a skitter basically fell a bunch Just kind of cut it and go they're not even using a skitter. They'll be forwarding it on long trucks. So But down anything with a machine downing it with downing the majority of them with a machine And then moving the tops with a long truck Yeah, with a loader And then what do they do with the ash they just stack it by the side of the road That's what it's in the that's what they bid on was leaving the wood along the edge of the road like Okay, there's land over many times want the wood Right. So we deliver that after the fact Yeah, yeah, yeah, gotcha Yep. All right. Well sounds good to me. There's no downsides to going with a fairly low bid I'll try to make a motion Obviously You're gonna make a motion I'll try to motion No, I'm gonna attempt I'd like to make a motion to authorize the town administrator to contact with Barry's forest products for the removal Of 192 trees from center road sodden pond and had get road 178 trees from brasure road and lyle young second So it's the town administrator is signing on behalf of the town It's not the town administrators. Yeah That's it. That's implied. Yeah, okay. Yeah, our author is it. Yeah. Well, I just wouldn't she's going to write it I mean, I was going to write it myself, but I always just said yeah, we authorize. Okay. There's a genius signing on behalf of yourself. Yeah Let's see Any further discussion Any further can I met I know I'm on the not on the select board, but can I mention? Um, there's a small number of trees perhaps four or five trees Uh, that we didn't mark but that we would want to remove um If if they were willing to basically remove them at sort of the same rate Uh, we'd like to have that work done at the same time. So it might be another $600 or something take those trees out So was the yeah, I was just thinking is the price per tree or is this as a contract to do What lump lump sum bid lump sum bid exactly But that's probably how to take that number of trees Out of the motion. Yeah Okay, and for a motion for a total price of not more than 46,000 300 dollars I'm gonna put a thousand dollars on give me some Okay Up to The discretion of the committee Is that is that good? You guys gotta You got a ground ground to play with Gut we need you I think we can Yeah Okay, but then I'll they're not there with it. Oh, I got three likes that. I like it. Okay. Well there There's room in my budget if there is a few extra beyond that's not the end of the world So I can have a bill separate We don't we don't have to do it separate. We just need to get a Make the amount big enough so they can do all the work. Yeah, that's all You can say 50,000 what the heck It's the end of the tree not the end of the world Very good Okay, I don't know what you put in there for amount 46 650 Oh, you just added a thousand. Yeah Can you round it off? Is that is that? We're giving them a thousand dollars or something or add a dollar Oh We're giving them a thousand dollars Huh? We're giving them a thousand. Yeah, the contract's gonna be signed for this. But if they need yeah, make it for 47 The road the road Yeah, all right road budget. Yeah, I don't really want to take it out. I'm trying to be carefully conservative here Okay Good enough whatever and we're trying to no more discussion. We're trying to confuse zoe Yeah, no kidding Let's spend 10 minutes arguing over 350 dollars. Sure Simple numbers for simple people there you go Uh, all those in favor, please say aye Aye aye aye. All right, so here we go Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you roads people. Thank you for your help. Really appreciate it. Yep Okay Man, we're a little ahead of schedules that okay Scott. It's awesome Okay review of letter from east mountain play of fire department fire station one templated station I don't know if anyone from the fire station is going to show up Oh, maybe we should put it off. Okay. Should we put it off? Guthrie could give you maybe some perspective on it. So he's not sitting around waiting but Um Would be one way to go Oh, I didn't read the letter so I'm gonna look for it. It's in here It looks like this. Okay. Yeah, I'll keep looking Is there something coming to talk about the letter? Yes. Oh there is so we better stay on that schedule. We'll just put it off until each one What Gina was suggesting is that Guthrie could give us his view while he's here. Okay Okay, I think that's what we're gonna do. We'll fill it in as much as we can I mean we we can whip right through this time Okay, I'm not sure we have that much more to do We'll have a town meeting review don't we have to do the minute Let's do that It will if you have anything to do with it. Hopefully you'll keep your mouth shut. I prolong things Okay, Rosie We have to go over the minutes for the town meeting Town meeting review review minutes from town meeting. That's why I'm reading So somewhere we have minutes. I have to look. There's two sets. There's a long Oh got it. I saw it Oh two versions, gotcha. Yeah, I see it right here Um Okay Annual meeting So basically basically the difference between the two Is that the longer the longer versions You need to mute yourself on one of your devices, Rosie Because we're getting feedback or an echo Can you hear me from here? I can hear that one. Perfect Okay, I can get rid of the phone Okay, so I'm looking at a version This may be a long one And why did you give us two different versions? Um, I wasn't sure There's been a lot of discussion during during select board meetings about How much detail to use for minutes So I decided to Give you an option The main difference between the long version in the short Is the amount of detail Regarding specific speaking Um, whereas Bear with me a second. I'm trying to move Move devices around here Folks who spoke during town meeting are listed In the short version The longer version lists them as well as what they were discussing And in the town book, we've had them done either way So I'm sorry if by giving you extra I get I'm creating confusion I just wasn't sure what folks were wanting this year I mean, I I like The longer version and principle that gives Townspeople more and more to understand Why we did what we did on the other hand town Longer versions need more editing Right and I went gone through and and done systematic editing in here But I've seen some things that would need to be changed In the in the long version I apologize I'm away on vacation. I may have sent a previous version. I apologize That I don't know it's it's hard to hear what what people are saying all the time too I'm sorry I have the long one Here's the short one. Oh, that's the short one. You have both. You should have both there. Oh, maybe I do have both of them here So this is both versions that you just gave me. No, I just gave you the short one Okay, set. You also have the originals. You have legal size paper and you're over near the warrant You're to be signed stacked the legal paid pages You have the long version. Oh, okay. Yep. Because those oh, I see it. Yeah, those legal size pages have signature lines for all of you Okay, all right depending on the version you have All right I agree. I agree with carl. Um Would it make sense if we postpones the adoption or voting on this until Maybe Rosie comes back and the rest of us can go through this but I mean town meeting is so important that I think and I really appreciate you giving us both versions rosie um That the the short version is It doesn't reflect the sentiments of the Of the meeting and of what the townspeople had to say Right, I'm much more comfortable adopting the long one Maybe in a in a future date we can Because sit down and mark and mark it up or whatever No, I'll I'll go through it and Yeah, and we all are we okay. There's no rush. I mean, well, I'll pull up my my other version. I apologize Here. No, don't don't apologize. Yeah. Yeah, it's just part of the drafting process. Yeah I'm I would not be in favor of adopting the short version or the long version today but So Well, yeah, I mean when rosie gets back and we can make sure that this is a clean copy. I haven't read it Okay, right. Well, thanks. I mean, I'm looking at the two And then at a future meeting and then not to this doesn't the next meeting maybe You know after rosie's back. Well, okay. Sure. Sure. We'll table this Sure Mr. Chairman if you're comfortable with that. Oh, I'm fine I don't know why you're such a lot. You go with that? Okay, okay. So are you good with that? Yes, definitely. I agree. I'll just shelve it Okay, I'm agreeing with the uh the vice chair of narratives Thank you. Thanks for beaming in rosie. Yes. Yeah, thank you rosie on vacation. Yeah We have the option. I don't recall anyone ever giving us an option. That's actually pretty cool Yeah, that's great. It's a lot more reading It's good to take with you to the bathroom This is concentration. Okay. Thank you scott. No problem. I'll just try to help you. Yeah, sure Appointments potential executive sessions. We haven't usually done that No, but that option's always there. Yeah. Yeah So why don't we go over that we can do that Yeah, what do we have? Let's look at let me look at what we got here a couple things to point out E911 coordinator Will move from me to mackayla and or the zoning administrator And heather started today. So I have assistant town clerk and assistant town treasurer on here So heather had her first day in the office So she has been training and spent some quality time with patricia today And then other than that it's I think most everybody an acting zoning administrator ben mackall. Um, who is interested in that position. Oh good Um, other than that, I Think it's kind of everybody's the same one question though is john jewitt had indicated that he would stay on as the central roman solid solid waste district representative. Yeah, unless Someone else or someone new on the select board was interested in that position. He would happily step aside. So Have you talked to i haven't talked to i mean he sent an email Oh, he did this. Um, so I don't know if tom, you know, just to mention as the new, okay So, uh, that's the only he he was perfectly fine continuing. Um with that appointment He actually sent an email as well to central roman solid waste that he copied me on that He was happy to continue unless but freely of course would step aside if His comment to me was if whoever got on the select board was interested. He's like leaves, you know, I Think he enjoys that Yeah, he seems to enjoy that appointment. So If we're good with that set, you also have the original of the form I received for the mail You know the copy of it in your pack, but we'll fill that out Yeah, because you have to find that one. Yeah So do we need a motion to We usually do a blank emotion to approve the appointments. Yeah. Yeah I'll I'll have a question after the motion I didn't make the motion Would you like a question? Yeah, sure. What the heck do all of these people that, um For the end that are no time to village committee the charter committee Preparedness committee that there are no terms. What are they still interested? I reach out to every okay. So gene viscerine is still interested in the village committee. Oh, I did reach out to I didn't reach out to all the system. Okay. I just But the charter committee, I just came across some correspondence from I think last year at this time. Yeah, you were reaching out Yeah, so I do have one question We're very Managed by coordinators. I'll be telling you He no longer has an affiliation I'm fine with him continuing I don't know if that's to you I got that to be was interested from the minutes from the emergency preparedness committee. Yeah, you sound like you're right on board to me Okay. Yeah Yeah, he was doing a heck of a job but the emergency meeting I went to presenting The things I need the steps you need to go through to inform people, you know the process Everyone was pretty impressed with the presentation and uh He's doing it for callous A lot seems like they've they've got a really good plan in place. They've got some guy up there. That's really active as emergency director and All it all sounded good to me. So Toby didn't say anything about stepping down so And on on the animal control officer front You know when I talked to amber about becoming the primary animal control officers I stepped down then she was glad to do that She did say that she would like to have a town constable or select board member to come with her occasionally to Some possibly dicey situations and I said that I'd be happy to do that and john I talked to him and he's happy to do that but he expressed interest in being a second animal control officer and I haven't circled back to amber yet about that But I will because I I think it's been really helpful for me as animal control officer to have somebody else to bounce ideas off of or When one person's out of town the other person can if that person's in town can take calls also Eric a home who I guess she'll she'll still be at the Humane society, but she's stepping down in her animal control officer positions I think but she's been really helpful for bouncing ideas off of it. But she's still got me over here I think she'll still be okay. So never mind. I withdraw the comments about erica. I'm sure she'll still be very helpful But anyway, uh, I think we could come back and and appoint john to that position once we've got things confirmed in the future sound good So one one last thing We'll appoint people and they will get notification that they're still on those committees And if I the point is if we ever Wanted to Let's go around to not necessarily the no term right ones that you're talking about. Um, I've already communicated to ask that they want to If we need to resurrect the town charter committee And we can always appoint other people If these if it's not a full slate or we need it Yeah, okay, we contact the people and they say no, I'm no longer available. Yeah, that's not a hard fix Right. Okay. Good. Thank you The idea is just to have That committee in waiting because a charter is a living document and we may need that we might may find some circumstances that Motivate us to amend it Right or the other no-term views. Okay So were you going to stay on the road commissioner to see you're on here until April 30. Okay Yeah, I mean I mean you could still Well, I'm just wanting to just find out through the list Okay, so Things look good though. We're gonna take All right, you're taking John Jewel off. Obviously He's the solid waste. No. What are you doing? He's got a sale. It's easy to stand even though you're not here. Okay That's what I'd like that I see. That's okay. We're talking about that for 10 minutes. Yes You got email I didn't hear his name. Yes. Wow. Okay. I heard the conversation I believe And I'm not putting my hand up Okay, I only like soft waste. I don't like hardware. So I don't like solid stores We'll be moving right along I move to adopt this play the proposed appointments as presented Second Any further discussion? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. And thank you, Gina for putting the list together. It's a long list. Yes It's a long public list. It's a long list. I've never seen it. This is impressive that there's so many people Can you save this document? Going forward. We never have them all together like this. I started this right when I started. Yeah, you pull them all together. Yeah Well, I have to move that word into excel. I don't know when your next person can copy finance Move a lot of things into excel. Uh-huh. Well, that's good to know Come on in. Okay. How do you know anything? Okay. So we've gotten the appointments done That's done So we can circle back to review of letter for me smell for your fire department And I actually haven't seen a letter but I did see that I know the gist of it In fact read the select board memo Um, should we get back to the meeting? Thank you Okay So look like what you want is to give us notice to get out of our own building Which is We own it the town does I believe I think we own a building but whatever we can stand corrected on that figure it out Yeah, it's not because I was one of the ones that actually the point is that we Fixed the building needs to get into the station. We've got everyone coming. We've got equipment needs to get in there Okay, so we go down the road and we need to figure out we need to do something different and vacate the space again We can talk about that That's our So what was the document that did we sign a document? Um, so We sent references and mov dated march 5th The mov that I have that is the latest version was signed on august 28 of 2015 by bill mel Who was the emf the president at the time and signed by south as select board chair on september 21st of 2015 and the one Thing in this document states that the town would be given one year's notice Yeah, I saw that letter But it does say that we own Right now memorandum. Yes. Yeah, would you go in the firehouse? Yes That is a bad day. It's a Location of building owned by the town of the public. That's memorandum. I understand. It's not a document It's just a memory Just memo you will I remember this So a little bit of history. Okay. Yeah, let's do that the The When The fire station and on was given to the town For the fire department to build the building. Okay, the fire department actually built the building. Uh-huh period Uh-huh with a lot of volunteer labor Okay So There wasn't ever an issue until recently Oh, it's always been the fire department's building Has never been any talk about the town taking it over Any of that stuff? So if you look at this memo of understanding Um, the town was actually sort of shared the expenses on it. We've done that So I don't know I'm not a maternity fault That's I hadn't seen this document until 435 This afternoon That's my so the annual utility cost was supposed to be 50% because we're using half the building That we've been doing that Well, since we paid all we said, I think that was kind of redundant since we give a lot of money to The fire department period. I think that's what happened. It's like, well, there's a part half that I have to do The utility cost Is the fire department setting the town a bill for 50% of the you know, and I don't think when this memorandum first is not 24 team I'm not sure of when 15 when came about it's obviously written differently And a copy of that is not only we have a station to free this administration And we don't really know where they look at public documents that they work on that But it sounds like it it sounds like the mo you you're contesting because it does say the building owned by the town of Well, we're not contesting who's calling it. We're just saying you've got half of it with parks in there And now I understand that town will be in there and at such time until we see to become a fire department We have use of the building. Okay. It's always been the understanding now for 10 years We haven't needed to use that half Graciously let that go I think it was good in its time and you know pretty deep. I believe it's still you've been to that So now you're kicking it out of our building You had a fire. I'm okay We're not going to argue about who's building it is. The point is it's a station that's used by the fire service We're not going to park four fire engines out of there in steps in the woods because somebody else owns a building These are $400,000 trucks So that have been parked outside so we can put the flowers inside That's not the argument. The argument point is we need space right now. Will we need it in a year or in six months? Maybe not What do you think? I think uh I won't have a place to park One truck So we will automatically have a minimum of one truck parked outside year around at that point That's if we don't build a garage And it may not be enough over If we don't the garage we're going to be we need the space The other The only other thing that's in there that's going to be tricky is the hydroceder can't come out immediately Just because of the freezing weather That's a cast iron pump and much like fire truck. It can't freeze That's why we keep that down there. Yeah, so we would have to tuck that away somewhere Up up up top and it would be great if we could just figure that out this fall Which only means getting us through until like june Yeah, Rosie I just wanted to mention that I believe there's some cemetery equipment the lawnmowers that we used to use Also in that building and we would need to find another space to store that Well, I don't think we're talking about the back part No, you know that suck way in the back. We just need the room for the engine So there's stuff on the far back So are you saying that it's okay to keep the cemetery equipment that's there where it is? Great, thank you. Thank you. Once we have a little bit of the engine we can park that out. I don't think we can come that small Is it possible that the idle seat is still going to park The rear of the station On the rear of the station, it's still better the trucks in front Yeah, because the walls aren't there Would that mean that the trucks would need to be moved to get the hydro seater in and out? Well, once it's summer the hydro seater can stay outside. It just he doesn't want the cast iron thing to break It's just got water. Yeah It takes if you were to use RV antifreeze or something like that to try to keep it antifreeze So you could keep it outside It would be A lot because you have to fill The hopper enough to flood the pump and then you have to it just turns into a lot. There's a hose on it that shouldn't freeze Wait, but if you keep it in here in the winter, it gets in the back They can still park You can't get in the back. You can't only put it just just inside the door to the side We can't drive in there with our loader. It's too short The bill yeah, yeah well There might be ways to be able to set up Castered or something where you set it on with a dolly and Put it under the back if need be to keep indoors Just thinking Well, I mean you're talking a year hence you had to give us a year of stoneness Yeah, of course, I would agree that we haven't seen so well, we've got it here. We can print it off. Thanks It'd be good to copy that forward. Yeah, you know, so you're saying you don't want to give us a year of stoneness? I'm just trying to be clear on what you're about. Yeah, I had to be known that And pretty good management person has kept the document in the car. I must say we should have seen it We really have one more Red scene urging me to house the truck under cover And we're not sure for how long and that's why We wanted to take advantage of The opportunity to be able to Get a truck in the doors of the car. Sure. You're but it's not what we know And that's not something that is forever. At least we don't want to be So I knew nothing about any of this, but what why is the why is the issue of the situation arising now because we have What's the Why me? Okay Okay, so you need a part now So if you sold it in an hour there would be an issue, but right. Yeah, I'll sell it tomorrow and why now need us Does Montpelier have an extra day? Are they still down a firecracker? Yeah Well, I don't know what to do. I mean our ammo usage is supposed to give us a year's notice and We're going to jeopardize our own equipment I mean just this fire truck that you're going to sell what once a new one gets here. Are you going to be Having the old one in service at all Yeah, the changes can function still as a tanker at this point so we can spend every use for it Plans to sell so the plan is to hold on Yeah, so I'm wondering why it needs to be an income at all. I mean because it's still a fire engine So as you used this and we're not going to pick it up to another tank It was up Well, it sounds a little sticky to me. Yeah, I mean we have this agreement Yeah, we've been one year planning around this agreement Yeah, what do you think? What can we do? That's a tough one. That is a really tough spot. I know where you're coming from. We want to keep stuff indoors, especially You know something that you see that you're going to want to have value in it in the next Potential just month, right something like that Is that how long is they thinking they're going to have this extra? We don't want to give it away. Let's put it back It still has some Are you going to auction it off is there is that not public knowledge? I don't understand Let's not understand. I don't understand how much value it has when the east pump your fire department can't use anymore for the Soul so why would somebody else want it can be still a tanker or people by their departments Is can you barely afford to buy a pickup truck? Okay, I did not have a smaller town somewhere We've had people come from out of state maybe end up that's where trucks is on before and sometimes they've gone to tell the uses They might strip that bad off and Right, right make a farm truck. Yeah, I got it But you can't park it outside You're saying you don't want to park outside, right? I mean, yeah Your issues of winterizing the heart of your cedar or just as yeah a problem for us as a fire truck Got it. It's got a pump in got water in it. So No, it's I can't put it to the rear without making something for it and blah blah blah It just has to be off on the side right there We can't get the loader in there even And that's still we knew with a truck that's in full service outdoors Same as you guys Okay, so when does it Okay, give us get the day and then we'll try works on that three four three four weeks Okay, so when it's on its way get a hold of me get a hold of got three. We'll try to figure it out You know what I mean? What can we do? I mean at that point international willing to help you out Even though it's outside our agreement and got three's willing to help you out But we've got to protect our own equipment. So we're going to just see okay Because this truck's not here when that truck is here. We're going to find that That's all I think I will I was gonna say I'll uh talk to our friends in call us also and see what I can come up with for For Not for housing anything But if if I had a situation where I needed them to cover some territory for us or something along that line I'll see what else I can figure Doctor and I can go up to the fire station and see what we can do about the silence and stuff And if we can get that thing further in use piece of my crime equipment to get it in Look at the smaller, you know what I mean? The loader's too big because it won't fit in here You know Yeah It's just to be clear the fire truck Let's start with the symbols the dimension of the fire truck like how much room you actually need It's not going to be going in and out once the new one shows right It's just going to be going out if someone needs to look at it, right? It doesn't have to have an air hook to it and all that stuff doesn't have to be on a triple charge It's going to be used in service as a taker. It's going to be available to be used until we get rid of it We can still use it But it could sit in idle for five minutes when I built theirs what I'm saying It doesn't need to be ready to roll out the doors what I'm saying not like your other trucks are It's going to be a spare to you guys, correct? So it doesn't have to have air hose hooked to it charger hooked to it and all of that If it fits over on that side closest to you guys, we can probably fit both of them in there both trucks The inner the salt truck that's in there now and the fire truck And I'll pull out all the sidewalk tractor stuff and the v-plow for the pickup and all that can come out The I just soon leave the hydroceder in there and leave the Hydroced mulch in there because that gets wet. It's more or less ruined. It's a nightmare to deal with So ladies a if Albert you can call me at the shop or something tomorrow and with some dimensions on how what the actual size is Because I can probably even switch sides if I had to and switch closer to you guys's side And then that would give you more depth because I imagine your fire truck's longer than my six wheeler Yeah, the problem though is I think with the overhead door You guys had to take and modify the door to get Iy Yep, so that would be an issue with I think using our side because we don't Have the height No on yeah, it would all be on the same side of the station Just play musical trucks with those two so it'll be it'll be tight But in theory your truck wouldn't be going in and out very often And that truck that I have down there Hopefully in the next month won't even be in there for the rest of the summer right So it might be a really close window Are you intentioned? Yeah, you're gonna have it gone before snow flies again, right? October 31st, halloween Okay, so we're gonna try to Basically you're Operating outside your MOU, but we're gonna be it's considered again. I made a copy of the analysis We're gonna talk about the station for future. Yeah, who knows how many of the documents will find it Whatever, yeah, I'm not sure why this was redone It was just the most recent one I found Now First a while to get the door modified because I did the door work with somebody to get the door I enough so we get the greater end so that was a delay and the whole thing the whole process All right Okay, thanks folks. Thank you. Thank you. But we could work it out Uh, okay, so this is an MOU It's not usually a legal copy MOUs understand Right, but you take an MOU to court together. So where's the legal document? Exactly An MOU is not a legal document I've been open that Scott has is not a lawyer I'm not but I hear not operating on Absolutely So Guthrie, you're basically gonna have to deal with that If you need any help for me I'm willing to help if you need a piece of machinery or something or whatever You know we'll figure it out We'll figure it out. Thank you guys for being flexible and creative Even though we have an MOU It says we we are entitled to a year Yeah Maybe I should have I mean, I'm like Scott. I also don't know anything about this, but Would it make sense to? um Try to help them expedite um A fast but good sale of this engine regardless what happens so that Let's him deal with it Advertised on multiple networks. We also have a dealer Who's trying to move it for us? So They'll give us sitting here. It'll give you Nobody wants to have a hanging around. They'd like to have the money back in the capital reserve, I'm sure Um, so consideration of adam and ash tree. We already did that or is this For you all to authorize me to sign the grant. Okay, let's have this is the grant application for for adam Over that for the seven thousand dollar grant. Yeah second All in favor, please say aye. All right. I'm not gonna let you discuss the name further Who motioned and who seconded it? It was too fast Count moved. I seconded Thank you Did you want to do the um, we can I can start going with grab a little bonus. Do you want to the town administrative report? Is there anything that that factory needs because it's the law does he hear for a reason or I don't know I Just pulled up the agenda to make sure there was nothing else Like I did Earlier today for spacing all of the things I was going to be involved in an hour apart from each other that was Great appreciated Did you get the landscaping straightened out for the um, parking spot down by Yeah, blah blah. Yeah Town Hill road. Yeah. Oh good. Good. I think we've Accomplished that It's hopefully going to be executed in April The landscape Yeah, okay. Good. At least the parking lot will be free if you All right. Have a good evening. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for tuning in You can Happy vacation rosie. Is there anything you're if this is your entertainment, it's cool But we want is there anything you need from us or don't don't leave. No, I'm I'm back on thursday Okay, okay, and you'll be excited to hear that it's going to be about Four degrees warmer here Then it is at home tomorrow when I get on the plane to come back Mississippi Yeah, they've got big frost warning Okay, show them how to handle it All right safe safe travels. You're welcome. Thank you. Thank you Okay, what about the town administrator report? um One item is a question for you We kind of went back and forth on chasing chase and doing a survey and a potential Potential boundary line adjustment. Yeah for our project. Yeah. Do you want me to reach out to face and chase and start anything with the survey? Do you want to wait on that because We weren't sure where the boundary line adjustment may And it may not need to happen now Actually, so it may be kind of the building in the same location. I don't know that we need to do anything to decide wasn't there something sad about the The only thing either line driveway is right. Yeah, the driveway needs to be moved What not recalling if we build it on the same site When I was talking to him the other day Yeah, that doesn't matter for the survey It doesn't open our boundary Yeah, that shouldn't be an issue. But this is the old thing. I mean, is this the whole old site not quite in the Where the line is not really now. It's we have exceeded. Yeah. Yeah I think we're gonna need to do a survey To reach out to chase and chase and get on their schedule. Yeah, I mean, you're gonna have to square out to start with a survey Here you have to resurvey the area and then oh, there's no survey at the whole area Right now that we don't have any fading because they couldn't get surveyed the whole area and we just have to move that line I don't know. I'd have to ask for it. Well, let's get on the schedule. Yeah, because I think that the old Footprint is not quite If you look at this, I mean, I look at the satellite in that position. Yeah, it needs to be the line needs to be moved anyway Yeah, so let's just get that straight now. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, I mean we we want We want to know what we're going to do in terms of a new project before the final holiday Yeah Those that's coming along. So if we get them engaged in that's coming along, maybe we can meet Well, we may have a visual survey But we have to figure out if the old building and the whole site is within The the boundary that we've established. So It sounds like we could do it all together without delaying the project At least get chase and chase engage and you know, if it could be two months away Yeah, I think they probably are Okay, so and then FEMA update, I'm going to give you all a really good idea of where we are with FEMA at your next meeting. Okay I have Submitted basically every weekly project that we have Two outstanding projects that the road crew is working on i'm working on documenting now and we'll kind of document Here's what we've done and here's what's left to do Those two would be one is called roads two I know I need to go over the list. We've got three more details. But for example, I know fitch needs Another layer of material and it is in that roads two project And then horn of the moon There's two more culverts that need to be Um, placed or two culverts that still need to be replaced. Um, so that's another project and then as far as far Is the third project so the road crew kind of has three Projects and by projects I'm speaking in terms of FEMA projects. They're the fine projects Three projects that the road crew still has to do. This does not include standard circle and solid I usually don't include those in my individual county because those are not being done will not be done by So I will give you guys an update on where we are At some point I'll kind of get these as far as I can and then they're all lined in the sand that this is where they are okay, um So to update you on standard circle the h&h study is complete and I have provided you all a copy of that h&h study from the wolf What I know right now is that they are recommended recommending over with a 14 foot span We're not yet sure exactly what that structure would be I have already said the h&h study to FEMA. I haven't gotten any feedback that I meet with our female representatives On wednesday I don't believe FEMA ever comes back with I don't think they challenge anything related to h&h studies h&h studies doesn't discuss what you mean So I directed the wolf to go ahead and start Looking at pricing and getting pricing for various structures for that So we can start getting an idea of what we need to do so that they can finalize their design because once we get final designs For both sanders circle and solid upon both of those will have to go through a full rpv process Yeah, um or to meet FEMA requirements for reimbursement So it's in process Another important thing are the our FEMA pdmg Our public assistance program delivery manager has resigned from the position his last day in April 12 So paul is his name paul and I are in a mad dash anyway with me leaving April 30th To try to get these as far as we can which is why he's got rapid fire two projects in the last couple weeks sent his way So, um, I'm trying to button up as much as I possibly can but there's still going to be That is a way to send issues to significant projects Okay, I was just curious whether we can get sad Just because there's no Someone explain what a 14 foot span means It sounds like a big quality. It's a whole team, but is it diameter? Like if it's a box color No, that would be the diameter You're going to have a span. No, he's yeah span span is the length of the culver Yeah, so it goes across the road or underneath the road. It's 14 feet. Okay, so that doesn't say anything about How much water it would care I'm not so sure. That's right. That's not true because the roads got to be at least 20 feet wide that horses And so it's going to be the arch of the culverts. It's got to be 40 hydraulic support would logically give a recommendation about how Why did the culvers it says I saw It's not the, it's not the width of the road. It's several, it's four, 14 feet wide. Any of these roads are over 20 feet. Okay. So they're saying a concrete replacement recommendation, they have either concrete boxed folders, which in the span of 14 feet and a height by 5.5 feet. Yeah, so it's 14, it's 14 feet. I think it's 14 feet on the arch part of it in this, just five feet. Then you've got the walls, so it actually could be more than, not a concrete. It's big. It's big. Yeah. It's close enough. Okay. Yeah. That's not the ones we're good to start with. Thank you. The internet says that the span represents the maximum inside width. The maximum width? Right, they're on the same page. Inside width. Yeah, I have a piece of paper. Inside width. Okay, thank you. Okay. So are we ready to go into the resume? Of course. I will make a motion to amend this. Okay, so. Okay. We need a motion to go into executive center. Yeah. You don't have to make a motion. Like that doesn't do it. Pardon? I will second the motion. Okay, the motion is always on page, bottom of page four of the select word memo. But under one BSA, article 313A3, I'll second the motion. Fine, but then there should be a bullet underneath it. You second the motion? Yeah. All those in favor? Please say aye. Aye. I wouldn't accept that. Recording in progress. Otherwise it would look great. Well, I have to sign this one, mate. Any more comment on the minutes? What time did we? Please say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. My job, you say it? Oh, okay. That's not, I don't know if I'm not. Now, Andy, Wanda, what's that? Zoe is on. Zoe is on. Can you hear us, Zoe? We're both in an order to adjourn? And we can hear you. I believe so. I moved to adjourn. Anybody else? I moved to adjourn. Zoom in. What was the other business on that? That said it was peaceful. Gina, we all got it. Did we do it? No way. We got it. Yeah. Follow the record. Oh, yeah. They want to do the soccer. Yeah. I'll make a motion to allow them to have their summer camp or whatever that was. The soccer. The soccer camp. The girls' soccer camp. Is there any game news for the field at that time? They don't know what they're doing this. Yeah, I'll second the line. Okay. Any further discussion? All in favor? All right. Cheers right there. I think that's the last thing. The agenda item. You're good, Zoe. Go ahead and go for it. I moved to adjourn the meeting. Yep. I'll see the contract. Second. All those in favor? Aye. Right there, Zoe. Aye. Okay. Thank you, folks. Thank you. It's 9 o'clock. Hi. Do the work and sustain right in front of us. Okay. I guess we got what it was for us.