 everybody welcome to a very special episode of esoteric Atlanta with my good friend Cindy you guys know her She's been on the channel before and this is probably the most requested video. I've had so far Unfortunately, I haven't been able to put one out myself of over this topic because of all the other research I've had to do so I'm so grateful that Cindy is here today for us to take a deep deep dive Into the energetic body as we move into this new awakening this new timeline If you will so many people are starting to realize that deep inside in our spirit We've had the power all along to understand things not to sound like the Wizard of Oz or anything But we have had the power all along with inside of us And so you guys have requested a lot for me to go over some of these things with you guys and Cindy is the expert. She owns a sacred garden yoga in Marietta, Georgia where I teach on Sunday mornings She just finished teaching a class believe it or not because she looks gorgeous I don't look that good when I'm done teaching but Cindy does and And yeah, we got you got some workshops and stuff coming up that we're gonna put down in the description box below as well And I know that people can contact you through zoom too, right for appointments and stuff Perfect, I absolutely do stuff through zoom obviously here if you're local in the yoga studio, but yeah, absolutely cool Well, let's go ahead and get started Cindy now. We will get to the chakras guys. Don't worry, but I think for starters We are gonna talk about Intuition and gut feeling and trauma and fear and how to not confuse the two Do you want to get started on that and explaining that to people? Absolutely the intuition that I feel is the voice of our higher self the voice of our soul And it's usually going to lead us are not usually pretty much always going to lead us in the direction of our highest success Not just for ourselves But also for our family and the work that we do and the community that we belong to But it is very easy to confuse the void that voice because we have so many other voices that go on in our head With the one the true voice of your your heart and your intuition intuition your sacred self Your higher self your holy spirit Whatever word that you want to call your connection with something that's bigger than you but it's also inside of you What you said was totally correct is that the power is it inside of us that we have the capacity to tap it into Um, I mean the energy inside of us is huge. It's humongous already You know some people feel like they need to tap into energy outside of yourself, which you can find some Some good interesting funky stuff out there as well But as the the saying goes as above so below you have that same Wisdom inside of you as well. It just depends on what what What path you want to take sometimes at first We delve within the framework of the cosmos and try to understand that to be able to understand ourselves better But in the end it's um, it's going to take you back to here Yeah, and understanding that you are actually a fractal of the universe a fractal Meaning that you are a complete piece of the universe And so you hold all the wisdom that you need So your intuition uh directs you to that communication Within your body because your intuition communicates with you through your body It has to as long as we're in the incarnation and in form Right But since we are in a human body and in form We also have things like fear and uh trauma responses because of experiences that we've been through not just in this lifetime But in previous lifetimes as well if that's something that you believe in that holds within Um within the body it holds within the cellular structure of our body And that fear can come through Just as powerfully if not more powerfully sometimes in our intuition And then it's a matter of okay, how can I tell the difference which is what we're we're talking about what we're wanting to talk about here um the intuition is um Again, it's the it's the voice of the higher part of you And everyone experiences it differently everyone experiences intuition differently So I would say first of all is get in tune with How you experience your intuition the most we were talking about um before this The the clairs the different clairs the clear senses. Yeah right and the the the clairs are The one that we're most common Well, we know we know the most about is the clear buoyance like being able to see And you have others as well. You have clear audience Which is the ability to hear beyond and I'm talking about being able to see beyond Just what you see like I see this tree or I see this fence But also being able to perceive and see like energy And the vibrations and things like that Uh, the other one is a clear audience There's also clear sentience feeling which is me. I'm a feeler There is clear aliens That's your nose being able to smell The stance is taste and the cognizance is knowing that's My two big ones are I sense Like I feel and I know it's just suddenly I know something and then I know it and I and I know it's true Yeah, and the smelling thing we talked before it's like you hear people say all the time they'll smell a scent That was like their grandmother Or like they'll smell cigar smoke. That's not around them But their grandfather smoked cigars or their grandmother's perfume, but it's not really there, but it's it's a It's a smell that other people are not going to smell but if you have that ability Up on that and that's pretty cool. I mean they're all actually I know clear voice is probably the most common But it's interesting because you were saying and I believe this that we all have one of at least one of these Right, there's at least one thing that everyone's going to have to be able to see what's not necessarily there But it's it's to connect to that inner understanding if that makes sense Yeah, and the you actually probably have the capacity for all of them I think we all do but there's going to be some that come in more strongly than others like some people are going to be natural I'm I believe I'm not like a huge seer. I see things in my mind's eye Right like and through my imagination if I'm working Energetically on people I might get images So maybe that's the way the clear voice comes in through me But then there are some people who very clearly see like auras they see around people or or they see Entities or beings that have already passed on, you know, they see the ore around trees Um And that's you know, that's a pretty pretty cool one to have for sure But if you don't have that it doesn't mean that you're not intuitive though Right means that it might be coming through through you in a different kind of a way And I think that the universe the higher creator god whatever you name you call that that being Is one of love and so sometimes the ability we're given is the one that isn't going to freak us out The most if that makes sense because some people seeing something That's going to terrify them and so and you and but you just see it with kids How many stories do we see of kids like videos of them in their crib and they're like chit chatting with something That's not even there that we can't see right But then we grew up and we lose that because we kind of get disconnected and discombobulated from from that intuitive understanding that we're born with yeah, well, it's because um Especially when we grew up it wasn't necessarily encouraged for us to develop that part of ourselves So it does get shut down or it doesn't get fully developed or cultivated Until maybe later on in your years and you decide that you want to to fully develop it again This that that makes a a big difference We can very easily shut them down Because at some point again, it wasn't it was discouraged Was it accepted it was accepted or you were belittled or made fun of or something like that because of it and all that Your your clairs are sensitive to how you feel about them Right that makes sense. So it's leave to to shut them down And then we do get disconnected and right now where we're at the age where we have so much information coming at us From so many different points of view You know, it's time for us to to wake that up so that we can hear From the voice of The the place that's going to guide us again to our to our highest to our highest success and to you know To our abundance and to our health and to just being being supported in this world Um with so much information coming at us now I think it's so important to be able to develop this intuitive part of you So one way is to begin to recognize where you're how your intuition works through you specifically So what would be an example of someone figuring that out would they just have to like start observing their set themselves in moments of Quiet or Pay attention Yeah, pay attention that you can sit quietly close your eyes Tune in with yourself ask. I mean all you have to do most of the time is ask Does it ask you have so many powers that be and in spirit and angel guides that are waiting for you to ask And to open yourself up to them and you sit and ask and they're like, oh my god I finally have something to do That's so fun And there's even a verse in the bible asking you shall receive If you shall find knock in the door shall be opened unto you like it's all there And it's so funny you say that because we have been on this channel like trying to like break through the truth of everything And I've been trying to figure out like what planets really are because we know that what we've been told might not be Accurate so like what are what are planets? What are these messengers and I've been asking all these people And no one can really answer me and I was just recording the other day part three of our Apocalypse of Abraham from a missing book of the bible and it flat out tells you and I was like I started laughing reading and I was like Oh my god, there it is So it's true. It's true. They're they're waiting for you to ask these questions Do you have to ask though that you do have to ask because they're not going to force themselves upon your your free will right so asking For more clarity for more guidance and the how you Experience the voice of or the communication of your higher self Close your eyes. You can practice it make that connection and you can Once you close your eyes and center yourself Open your eyes and notice what pops out like look around you Does the vision pop out for you the most or do you suddenly get a whiff of something? These are small little practices that you can do to begin to understand this part of yourself and then it's the matter of You know continually developing that right now What is so we talked a little bit and I know tomorrow comes on the channel too She always says, you know the difference between fear and your gut intuition Is that fear makes sense or the gut intuition doesn't make sense all of the time But for people who don't understand and I think sometimes for me and Cindy you might be the same way I think I forget because we work in the yoga world We're constantly working with like trauma in the body and trauma responses when we say trauma response I want people watching to understand this doesn't necessarily mean something big and bad that happened to you This could be something very very minimal that you might not even remember but your body has recorded So can you explain to people like in layman's term? What is a trauma response and do you believe that we all have it? We all have certain trauma responses If you're in human form, yes If you're in human form and then if you lived on the earth on planet for Even a minuscule amount of time most likely you've gotten inoculated with something that can very well be A created a kind of fear trauma response within you Your body absolutely remembers everything. I kind of see it as like this mini akashic record It's like your akashic records and akashic record is basically Like if you if you if you think of the akashic record the the big akashic records It pretty much stores all the information of the whole entire universe and the history of the planets and all that stuff Well, I think our body is an akashic record to at least I feel that and especially with our own experiences and again Not just from this incarnation in this body, but also from past lives and also ancestral Absolutely in other words what your your grandparents or your great-grandparents or You know goes way back when your body holds the history and the the remembrance of all that So a trauma response can it's not only from this lifetime in this body But it also carries over from other other experience other lifetimes and other family members right and it basically Let's say something and you're right. It doesn't have to be a huge thing especially Well, let's just say if you're a child for a child to get Fearful it doesn't necessarily take a whole lot right might take more as an adult because you've developed that part of yourself But a child who isn't fully, you know cognitively developed. They don't understand the world In the same way than an adult does which it can be a good thing, but it can also be The children are more like sponges that way. Let's put it that way And the children also take just if you have a child, you know this they'll take anything personally They take everything personally Anything because they don't know any better yet. I can't remember what the age is before they're really able to differentiate And say that the world doesn't revolve around me, but children really do I mean, they really do think that the world revolves around them Yeah, if something negative happens in any way They'll take it personally they'll they'll internalize it in some way And that that could be a big thing or it could be a small little thing Again, that might not be that big of a deal to an adult, but it can be a very big deal to a child And then we develop an idea about that in other words. Let's say we do something You know and Let's just take the example of a child You know of a of a of a trauma response that would have been cultivated that say within this lifetime within this body you're a child and you you Did something like you're singing And dancing and prancing around and you are all free and happy, but then Your parents who might have not been in a very good mood at that point tells you, you know, shut up be quiet You're um, you're making too much noise or you're causing too much commotion a single response like that Can shut down that part of yourself Well, that says oh my gosh. Well, I shouldn't sing. I shouldn't be free. I shouldn't dance I shouldn't twirl around because if I do that, it's not acceptable right So it's and then that Stress response exactly and then that creates like a shutting down in a way of that part of yourself And then that also creates a whole belief system You know create a whole uh thought construct that says Don't do that anymore because if you do that then you're going to get in trouble or you're going to be made fun of Whatever words that you pick Right, and then that thought process becomes a program that runs In your mind and you didn't even like, you know, you might have not as an adult You look back you might not even remember that you made that I was about to say yeah But the but the the information is still there the emotional memory is still there and I do I think so many grown I mean they say that you spend your adult life trying to get over your childhood But I think so a lot of adults have those type of situations that have created a certain behavior That they don't even remember and as as an adult you can look back at a situation like that and be like Oh, yeah, my parent wasn't a bad mood that day. It had nothing to do with me But as a kid You don't that does it That doesn't register and so you take it personally. Yeah, you take it personally because that's the only thing that you know how to do you did something wrong and um since you did something wrong and we're usually wanting to Please The our adults or our parents We change we'll change our behavior. But then that emotion um, also, you know, you create that that construct and then that emotion um Can get frozen in time almost like if it hurt your feelings and uh, children also don't aren't very good always at processing their like emotions unless you just let them rage Like a child who's just uh, you know kind of rages and and And lets it out that that helps to release the response from the body right again, um children aren't taught to Just let their emotions be we usually tell them well You have to suppress them or you need to not make them so wild or crazy because it's um Again, it's not acceptable. Culturally acceptable. Yeah I mean not that they should be raging in the middle of the grocery store necessarily But I mean a child will naturally have a response to wants to release. Yeah, but we don't um Again, that's not necessarily encouraged either Right. So you have something happened something traumatic and again, it can just be something small that happens And then you aren't given the The ability to process that emotion you'll create a whole thought process a whole thought construct around it And if the motion isn't fully processed you can also hold that within your body And it doesn't disappear Another thing all it does is it suppresses and it gets Stuck in places within your body, but it doesn't ever just disappear. That's what we wish that it would do Yeah, it would just completely go away. We never have to deal with it again But unfortunately since your body is like it stores everything it's going to hold it for you but in a But it's doing it on purpose because in essence your your higher self wants you to be whole again And it wants you to be able to come back again And to reclaim those parts of you that you might have stuffed away or tucked away somewhere a motion That's stuck or frozen in your body so that it can release and And you can feel whole again, but it's not going to your higher self Is never going to like just take pieces away from you, right? You can fragment them yourself Yeah, that's all you that's not your higher self. That's all you Yes, you fragment it yourself But it's still contained within the framework of your of your body your heart your soul your energetic bodies That makes sense. So with trauma responses, what tends to happen is Regardless of whether the trauma again was big and y'all know what we're talking about We have to be careful on youtube because of censorship, but we know what big traumas are y'all know that But then the small traumas is that these patterns that from this the story we've created around this Then start to kind of dictate How we behave in the world, which is what you're talking about understanding the difference between this fear response or trauma response versus The actual intuition response, which is not a part of the fear response So then that you're the trauma your fear response. It's um, it starts to make up like this egoic part of you That wants to keep you safe It wants to keep you protected and safe Which you know, it's not that's not a bad thing right when we're starting to go back in and understand Like the traumas and the fears within us. We want to go in Compassionately and understanding that they're actually they were designed To protect us and and to keep us feeling safe But the the problem with that is that it will keep you in the same little box Where it's hard for you to grow out of that and the When you do want to grow out of that box Let's say you get an intuitive hit that says to oh, you know, go start this youtube channel or go go Offer that workshop or that class that you wants to do or you know start your I don't know your instagram, but what whatever That thing is especially something that really puts you out there and gets you out there in in front of people Your intuition you'll you'll get a hit from your intuition And it it will feel good and it will feel fresh And by the way, that's one of the ways that you can tell the difference between an intuitive and a fear response Is your intuition will be anchored in the present moment. It will say oh, yeah, go do this right now right and then A lot of times what will happen to get this idea this moment of inspiration and revelation that can break you out of the small little box that you've you've uh, you've put yourself in And Uh, a short while later The fear response will come in and say oh my gosh No, don't start that youtube channel because then all these people are going to see you And they're going to think you're completely crazy and they're going to think you're nuts and that's danger You have to understand that that response or it's um It interprets through the body and through your mind is dangerous right And because that's dangerous it will that fear it will trigger it'll it It triggers your physically your central nervous system. Yeah, you might get sweaty and you get anxious and Yeah, your central nervous system starts to turn on All these hormonal responses that say danger danger danger danger I mean, that's what it really feels like it feels like danger. Yeah Some people start shaking it. We listen to the danger Yeah, we think oh my you know, I shouldn't do this and that danger then or that fear that danger Overrides your intuition. Yeah That's such a good example. Yeah And the fear will as I said the intuition will be more Present based in other words it says I might do this thing now where A fear response for a trauma response will usually be anchored somewhere in the past Yeah, because it is remembering your fear Or your body is remembering something from the past That was dangerous or that didn't feel good Or that caused you angst or caused you some hurt and some suffering It remembers that it's like it reaches in and it remembers And then it starts to send off all those signals to Shut down Yeah, and I think everybody listening can relate to what Cindy just said that You're you feel inspired and then you feel defeated by your own thought process Exactly And that that I love that because that that is definitely It's almost like your fear response will try to talk you off the ledge But you're not even on the ledge to begin with yeah And that's where it can get very confusing for a person because you think oh well It is it's like my fear is just trying to it's trying it's really Trying to help you to protect you. But it doesn't realize it. It's also sabotaging you You'll know that self sabotage. That's a big word Yes, one of the human body is interesting too, and I have to be careful how how I say this so We'd see this a lot with we'll just use women for an example since we're two women Like everybody's got that friend or knows that person that keeps dating the wrong guy Like ab usc Relationships and they get into one they get to they keep repeating these patterns of going and I know that a lot of times trauma If you've experienced trauma the body will also try to relive that trauma so that you can actually deal with it Exactly. You see that happening karmic. Yeah karmic pattern A repetition and you might think oh my gosh God is punishing me or the universe is punishing me. This is terrible I can't figure things out But the it's repeating because you're repeating Yeah, it's not the world. It isn't punishing you It's trying to show you well, this is repeating because you're repeating You you haven't broken past this thought pattern or this belief system that you have about yourself Maybe not being worthy of of love if you're talking about like you know, you said an abusive situation These are just just some examples, right if you have a A repetitive thing going on within your your subconscious because a lot of times it is Right consciously none of us ask to be abused. No, I mean who would you know consciously? We don't we don't ask for those kind of things, right, but subconsciously we might have these programs running saying that um Yeah, like you're not worthy of that kind of love you're only worthy of this kind of love And the repetition is happening. So it it doesn't it's like I think pima child drone said Nothing ever goes away until you Until it teaches you what you need to learn in other words It will repeat until you finally integrate the teaching or the learning or you know, you break that that's that cycle Right and sometimes again, it's it's subconscious It's from fragments within your your soul Not your soul can't be fragmented the fragments within your energetic your cycle. Yeah. Yeah fragments within your psyche Yeah, and sometimes it takes that realization sometimes, you know, we we do have to make the same mistake over and over again before we realize We realize what that what that pattern is and I I did that myself I dated terrible guys over and over again until the last one that was awful and I literally Before my first trip to India and I literally just focused on when I was in India that first time on healing and Really focused on myself and I came back and that's when uh, Todd and I got together and he is it's the most It's like one of the healthiest relationships. I've ever been in so There is there needs to sometimes be this realization that happens where you do start to observe and realize The idea of a trauma response and like a broken record of sam scara that's happening over Versus who you really are I always tell people in yoga like the whole idea of is realizing that who you Think you really are isn't actually who you really are And that's kind of the whole purpose of yoga and a lot of spiritual healings is like first of all realizing that that you're not The ideas that you have the story about yourself. You have isn't normally the truth now their personalities just That are again based off of again thoughts and belief patterns That were developed out of times of of fear or as times of feeling diminished or You know times of suffering and we don't want to repeat the suffering right and your One thing I think it's important too that when we start to go through our healing process and we go through the cycle we're repeating stuff and Then sometimes we can beat ourselves up and saying oh my gosh. Why can't I figure this out and then we get really angry at ourselves? That's not helpful either. That's just creating a new trauma response creating another layer of crap on top of the crap that already there so beating yourself up or Bullying yourself because you can't figure something out is not the way to go But we think that we think that to ourselves, especially in the spiritual realm We think that we're broken And the thing is is that you're not like in the essence in the heart of you in the spirit of you You're not broken at all You're just having like this momentary lapse of forgetfulness, right? Right Yeah, yeah It's uh, yeah, no totally I mean what's You're right because in in the yoga world, especially you do see people kind of like bully themselves And it's so funny because the first rule of yoga is a hemsa Which is non-violence You know he didn't tondling didn't pick peace he picked non-violence because You know that that you're going to have that reaction to kind of like bully yourself But you have to be able to be aware of that and choose not to You know most of us speak to our the way we speak to ourselves for most of us The way we speak to ourselves is a way we would never speak to anybody else And that's a realization in itself is when you become your own worst enemy And to be able to have that compassion for yourself and understand that you are Whole but you have to work to find that You know and and and to kind of sweep your house up a little bit, you know um I will say too just to To um because this also goes in really well To one of the ways that you can tell a difference between an intuitive response and a few response An intuitive hit will not be bullying Yeah It's it won't be shame-based. It won't play on your shame. It won't play on guilt It won't bully you And it won't play on any feelings of desperation Right, sometimes we'll we'll confuse that and we'll hear a voice that says oh, no, no, no, don't do that But the um the tone the feeling tone of that voice might be extreme guilt or shame So that comes up a lot maybe with money I could feel guilty especially, uh, you know people that are more in the spiritual realm um, you know talking about having crazy fear and and um And not a very healthy relationship with like abundance and money Especially uh people who've been on on this path. We have this crazy relationship and idea with money And maybe you you want to offer service? And you want to charge some money for it? And then a guilt response Comes in and says no, you can't charge up, but there's an undertone of guilt That is not your intuition. Yeah, that is a guilt Framework that you're working within or a shame framework Yeah, I I think because you know what it's so funny because in india My teacher in india is one of the wealthiest people in south south india, you know And my boyfriend will tell stories of batabi joys who was his teacher who's passed away That if it was time for you to pay tuition like even if you were like 50 rupees short You had to go home and get that 50 rupees You know and we do in the west for some reason we we have this like romantic idea of being like You know a committed to life of poverty because we're spiritual teachers But you know that there is an energy exchange when you're helping someone you're working with somebody you're teaching someone You're giving them your energy And you can't give energy without being replenished and that tuition back or that payment fair service back is that replenishment for your Energy and yeah, I totally get that because you see that all the time Especially in the yoga world that people feel like they have to like You know only do donation based stuff and donation based up is fine too There are some people that just do certain classes that are donation based But yeah, I absolutely understand what you're saying because we immediately associate money with capitalism and people have a very extreme view on that And it's like no, there's shades of gray there. No, absolutely. It's yeah, definitely shades of gray It's not like one extreme or the or the other right So your intuition won't play on guilt if you're if you get a thought and there's guilt or there's shame or there's a sense of You being diminished it won't play on your desperation either or your naivete If that makes sense and I think this is a really important piece that it's not going to play on your desperation Especially when it comes to Who you listen to This is the part of your intuition that's going to keep you from being involved in something like a bad Cult or something like that. Yeah, because your your desperation Might take you down that path So desperation is not your intuition either. Do you see what I mean? So your intuition is not going to play on On that part of yourself And that is usually when we're praying the most too Usually we're praying when we're desperate We're praying When our world far falls apart and we're in that dark night of a soul experience And it's not to say that your intuitive voice won't come in at that point. It very much will But it's it will have I think a different feeling Right versus um Versus like making a a decision Mainly just on desperation And then that although that goes into another point of the difference between intuition and trauma response is your intuition um Is usually non-emotional so you might be in a strongly You know dark night of the soul kind of a place, but your intuition will still come through More clear, right not going to come with a strong strong emotion attached to it Right that makes sense like fear will come with a strong like But you know that that that anxious feeling right sometimes to it um But your intuition won't now your intuition might The voice sometimes it can be soft, but sometimes it can be loud Right depending on the situation and and how you know how it's trying to get your attention But it won't come with super strong emotions Unless unless you are actually in current danger like you're being chased by a bear, right? If you're being chased by a bear and you're body's like holy shit, right? What's funny you talk about like when people are in a dark night of the soul and they're very vulnerable And they're high emotion at that point and you talk about like high controlled groups It seems to and that fear response were instead of when we're attracted to those groups and that vulnerable We're looking for something outside of ourselves exactly a bus versus sitting quietly in in that uncomfortable place In that place of vulnerability anger sadness whatever and just being able to like breathe and try to listen to That part of you that that that only thing that's going to save you is Is yes, you know and so and it's crazy because you talk about these groups and people like oh I would never know everybody is successful as susceptible to a high controlled organization Oh, yeah at some point because we all have those vulnerable moments, you know and where we can't possibly save ourselves We need this You know david karash to save us We need this whatever this, you know, and that's where we get in these situations Which then which then you get in these groups and it causes even more trauma responses and for psychological warfare and You know and and so Yeah, that's I'm really glad you brought that up because well a good teacher I think will always redirect your power back to yourself And that's one way you can tell so if you're going out and you're You're getting involved in in different groups in different communities just fine I mean you should you know you shouldn't have to like go through the process all alone, right? um, but you're The for me anyways the truest the highest teachers I mean they might be telling you giving you guidance, right do this do this do this But in the end it should point you back to yourself It shouldn't point you to some power outside of yourself to Yes, some human being that's gonna You know, yeah, you save yourself in the end you have teachers and stuff that help to redirect your energy I think that's more than anything what they do they help to redirect Where your thinking is and and to you know open up new ways of looking at yourself But in the end they're going to say no you in the end you got to save yourself that that this that's not going to save you Right, that's something that both you and taut are really really really good at doing Um, because we both know within every organization. They're bad apples Like there are definitely yoga world to bad apples out there that like being you know the little leaders of their communes But um, but both you and taut are really really good at that with your students Like you're giving your students tools Through your teaching so that they could help themselves Yeah, it is not you and taut are so good about like not getting super involved in like Your clients or your students lives beyond what you're teaching them and having some boundaries like i'm not a therapist I'm not a doctor. I'm not you know I'm just here to help you with what I understand and then you do with it as you will because you know At the end of the day the teacher can't do the work for you. You have to do the work It's all about you the teacher's job is to eventually not be needed sadly Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so let's uh go into Everybody's been asking me to and again because both Cindy and I live our lives in the yoga world I think I forget anyway that people just don't have this exposure like we do Because I was shocked at how many people wanted us to review me to review the chakra system Because we talk about this all the time and I was like, oh, I guess yeah, okay I guess they don't teach that in zumba. So I guess we got it So can you go over that these different and not just the chakras any type of like energetic Points in the body. Yeah, you know, okay. Well, I would like to say we'll get into the I was thinking about this and You know the the the chakra system it's um Sometimes it's the easiest reference point for us to come in and start to understand aspects of our energetic body But one thing that I've uh been learning As as I progress It in which I wish that I also knew a little bit Earlier and it's kind of like this, you know, we're talking about the anatomy of your spirit Right and the anatomy of your higher self. I like that. I'm going to use that when it I like that. So this is the anatomy of your higher self It at the the first vehicle the smallest vehicle is actually the subatomic Particle of your electrons. That is the first vehicle of your spirit Is the electrons within your body And I was uh Reading to just to prepare a little bit about uh for this talk like how many electrons Does a human body have? And it was giving some mathematical is like Seven times 10 to the 27th degree and I'm like, what does that mean? I'm like, that must be a lot And it was like something like octillions. It was an octillions range in an adult body so We think about electrons electricity. This is like energy that you know, it's your further. That's what electrons do Their primary carrier of electricity in your body And they move at the speed of light and their quantum They're they they're quantum. They kind of move at the speed of light between rounds In a way, you know what I mean? If I don't know you have to study quantum physics and all that I don't know that much about that but electrons Are are kind of hard your atoms are but you know the electrons too are part of that realm in fact, if you think of your power yourself as being um a vehicle again, not just for this world but also for your past incarnations and um Yeah, the electrons they move through those different realms Wild it's so wild. It's so cool. Yeah, if you even just sit and meditate on all the electrons in your body That that will start to open up something way Bigger it feels different. For instance, if you just sit and think of electrons electrons, you know, and That being the first point of your higher self versus going straight into the chocolates I mean like feel that feel into that feel into your electrons and then feel into your chakras. Yeah That's your monster guys. Your monster is a different electron Uh-huh. It has this is like it has a different sensation to it right, so um the electrons are the first point And the understanding that about the anatomy of your spirit is that it goes on a subatomic level I think will help you understand how big or how Electrifying you actually are You know what I mean like how connected you truly are to um Something magnificent vanity Yeah, exactly that goes back to the Claire's all these That's why you're able to see things that are beyond the veil is because your electronic particles are living within these different Realms of reality even though your physical eyes might not see unless you are Claire Blank, you know, but but it's like that explains how that this is now scientifically possible That we're able to to have a spiritual experience in this human life We are spiritual beings having having a human experience. So exactly. I'm so glad you talked about that Yeah, that's because of the electrons They have to make up every single element because you know, you're made up mainly of carbon of hydrogen Of nitrogen and of oxygen, right? I think those are the four main ones And all the electrons that are running through and then that the how all that is coming together all those elements are coming together to form the More of your um Biomolecular structure like your proteins and your dna You know your well your cells and then the dna within your cells and all the proteins and the fats I mean it is you're nothing but a current pure electricity And the your then I would say, you know work through your electrons And then through your electrons like working through the like feel into all those different elements within your body And then start to feel within like your dna structure because your dna Because of all that is also the memory of everything. Yeah um And then you know You can start to see that's that's more of a refinement If you think of the chakras the chakras are a little bit more dense than that Right, but when we're talking on the level of molecular structure There's a high speed frequency to it. Yeah, we'll just blow you right open Almost yeah, I feel it almost immediately just talking about it like everything starts to tingle in your body Not just your chakras but everything everything yeah With electricity and that is the realm of your higher. So your higher self is beyond your energy system right your whole entire body is filled with it and it's um Your your body then is literally a light body. It's an energetic light like lig ht light body with Uh sacred geometry All that stuff within it. You know what I mean? It's like you are like the sacred geometric Uh jewel With all these different facets like if you think of a jewel or a diamond it has all these different facets Faces and the way we then reflect and project light That's a very individual to us depending on how our sacred geometry is cut I guess you can say you're formed right just think of yourself as electrons as uh a light body sacred geometry vessel of pure energy and kajillions and kajillions of Little energetic things moving then I think that will really tune you into the essence of Your higher self right then you can use like your chopper systems for Like if you get stuck somewhere, right? But I think if you go straight to that geometry and to the electrons it will it will blow things Open Almost automatically at least for me. Well that makes sense because I was telling you You know, I'm very familiar with the chakra system. Just how many years I've been in yoga But within my actual line lineage of yoga. We don't talk about the chakras that much Yes, I sometimes bring it up in class sometimes especially in this area of the body But and the reason for that is what I understand is that When somebody doesn't have the basis of understanding energetic body They tend to make things worse by focusing on one specific chakra instead of understanding that they all work and one You know, so I think if you understand that your whole entire body is working as a whole first Yeah Then you can start to work into like the other parts of the systems without Tearing yourself apart, right, you know, I mean because in the end your higher self If that's what you're really wanting to connect with your higher self is just pure light That you know energies again this just geom beautiful crystalline geometric shapes That is fully illuminated. It can be different colors. Maybe it's gold. Maybe it's white. Maybe it's all these different colors And that will give you that sense of expansiveness from the get go, right That's kind of like a lot of times for us to work from that place can be more helpful Then working going straight to something that feels kind of small Yeah hit big first And then work out that let that bigness Show you Where you need to go next instead of letting your mind Tell you where you need to go like connect with the bigness. Does this make sense? Like connect your higher self connect sacred connect with that and let that tell you Where you need to go It's interesting because it kind of like, you know in the astanga practice We do or we did now in the news system. They don't teach us but I still teach this as a as you know The todok mudra, which we do it right before closing Where it's literally Where you kind of squeeze your body i'm trying to explain it to people who don't practice You're laying on the ground and you pull everything and you squeeze your legs together It's a neutral it's to neutralize your energy before you then go upside down But they always say to think of like a swirl Coming all the way up from your head to your toes So it's like you're focusing on this moving living breathing energy just cleansing and moving and it it literally Will then physically pop your body back into a more conducive Space so then you can do inversions But but like that's kind of when you say that it's because that kind of seems like a great place to kind of Practice feeling that sensation of everything just constantly swirling and swirling and cycles around the body Yes, so you do kind of see that in the yoga practice although the teachers might not talk about that that much But you do kind of see this practice of physically using the body to then energetically feel What you physically can't really see Yeah, yeah, you know You know there is a lot of talk about the chakra system and that they you know, it's useful Obviously, there's meaning to working with them But I think sometimes people the way they work with them just It can make you feel small Or right down or I don't know Where is if you first really just think about who you are and what you're made of and what your higher self is It's bigger than your chakra system. Yeah, absolutely. And you know what I mean? So it's like you connect with that first And and again the chakra system is more it's a little bit more dense even though it's energetic and it's light It's more dense than your Like this, you know the hugeness of just being pure electricity, right? Yeah, and again, it comes back to like then the electricity can filter through Your your chakra system Right and it's kind of like with the the different chakra points Like I said a lot of teachers, especially when they're just coming out of like teacher training They don't have that much experience will do things that will focus on like one specifically And that can generate more problems because as in everything it works together And I felt like the more I focused in my own practice on literally working on the body as a whole Then places I felt weak within like the chakra system got stronger Because they all were they don't work independent of each other even though they have independent purposes They work together as one cohesive unit Absolutely, and sometimes we think that the the lower chakras Let's say the first the second the third Your your first chakra is your mudahara and it's tied to your root feeling safe But it's anything that makes you feel feel safe like you belong and make you feel secure Like money issues are usually tied to to the mudahara. That's your root Then you got the one that that comes right above that your sacral chakra And it's color is yellow and that's your the space of like sexuality sacred sexuality emotions You know having the right to feel And then you got your third which is at your solar plexus your monocura It's yellow and that's your place of like feeling powerful But the the first the bottom three, you know, sometimes two in the spiritual world is just depending on on Um, what groups that you travel in they'll put these bottom three as somehow being less than yeah Because we should be trying to transcend and come up here to the to the pineal or and you know To our connection with heaven and to god and all that but if your roots are off It it doesn't flow is this is the the bottom three or the foundation But also the bottom three is the most taboo and where we hold the most amount of shame Absolutely So in in the spiritual awakening process, it will often require us to actually Descend first before we ascend It's like absolutely send you need to come down to your roots get get muddy get get icky get into um What the energy holds within the the place of like the earth the earth's grounding and what it will be To feel safe in your humanity Like your first three are very much tied to the sense of feeling human your instincts. Yeah primal instincts and We're often taught that our primal instincts are bad. They're not bad. They're part of you They're part of of what makes you human Right when we can begin to honor it and integrate the fact of that I want to feel safe Like I want to have money in my bank account because that makes me feel safe. Yeah, I can work it. Yeah, I want um Really, I want people to love me. I want people. I want people to like me It's actually okay to say that you want people to like you because that's actually a very Primal response when you think about the people who came way before us and the andretals You know, like the when they were really in tribes if you were left alone You wouldn't survive You wouldn't survive. So that's why we're we're tribal people. Yeah, that's in your moldahara So it is important for your psyche to have people like you and that's okay because you know right now the trend is I go Who cares what people think and not that you should care what people think but it is important for your your well-being For people to like you and that's okay. And to be okay to love people Yes, like you and to have a community and to have friends and to fit in because that That satisfies that part of your your primal instinct for survival as a human being because you're you're human Yeah, not just spiritual you're human. Yeah, that's what your human Uh component needs and your human component also needs to feel emotions. And that's another thing that that gets squashed down That's your sacral now. We're talking about your your um your sacral chakra, which is or it's red orange yellow That's it's red. Yeah, then the orange your sacral your wound you think of the wound space for women or your or your reproductive organs are um The soft kind of fleshy part of your belly Where you feel emotion your hips can feed it into that as well Yeah, and the element that's tied to your your sacral chakra or your your second chakra your wound space Is fluidity and water and water is directly tied to your emotions so um Having a right to your feelings. Yeah, and that's another it's a primal It's a more instinctual response Because if we don't have if we don't feel if we don't feel safe to feel Then we're not safe. Yeah, and everything kind of shuts down, but then but if we're not safe period like in other words if we're in in danger and we're um We're in true survival mode then your feeling won't feel either if you see what I mean to your reach chakra Since a foundation and safety Then it establishes the the foundation to feel right and you'll feel like it's safe to feel And then that feeds it into your power, which is your solar plexus And um empowerment sometimes is something that's not always me I know we're talking we talk about it more these days But feeling powerful because sometimes we think of of people who are powerful And we think of people who always just take all the time or they're greedy Or they're they're they're they're taking taking taking like that kind of power Yeah, but that's not wait. That's not the power that that's not the third chakra power Right. I mean in your In who you are right. Yeah exactly. Yeah, right, but that's why those three specifically can really get Ignored yeah, or kind of shut down or suppressed because um, you know, they are more They more linked to our humanity And in the spiritual realm which I'm just you know, sometimes we think that squashing our humanity is what we should do Y'all Not grounded. They're like flying the sky. No part of I will tell you I know Cindy I know, you know, it's we've been doing this for a long time That the people that are the most I believe are the most like Getting the most advanced in their their own practices are very grounded. They're very They're very human. They're very normal. They don't have what is it wrong? Doss called it spiritual materialism where they wear like 50,000 molybines and like Walk around going it's so cool. Man. No people who are really usually know when they're mad No, when they're upset they they experience the human because that's that's what if you were not supposed to learn from me Being a human the universe would not have made you a human Exactly So exactly as far as like wanting friends that goes back to the beginning with trauma response and intuition Wanting friends when you have a healthy understanding of your intuition You won't get into relationships that are trauma based when it comes to wanting people to like you You'll understand you'll have those healthy boundaries where there you want people to like you Who are also going to have healthy boundaries with you? It kind of goes back to that as well and then just accepting anybody to be your friend Whether they're manipulative or not isn't also fine. I've been in balance there Right. So so that goes back to the beginning with the intuition versus the trauma response and fear Um, so I know people talk about this as being like your your own sunshine as well The solar plexus where the heat comes from in your body where the power shines through And then you get to the heart. That's green, right? To my correct and say yes in the green and the when your bottom three feel more solid and stable and I don't know just you know, like you feel comfortable in your own skin Let's say which is so much of what the first three chakras are about again. It's about descending Those three it's about like kind of coming down descending putting your feet into the earth Accepting this earthly incarnation. I'll say that too. We'll quick especially for star seeds Some people might relate to the word star seeds In other words, you feel like You're part of your soul your spirit belongs in another planet somewhere like you've come from another star system At this point I think we all want to go to a different planet, but I don't know But then and and then we have this resistance to coming into human form Because we feel like oh, you know this this this planet and this body is kind of heavy More than what I'm used to and there's all of this kind of this pain and suffering all these different emotions That I'm just not used to so let me get the hell out of here We shoot up out of our body But part of the again the ascending process is to descend You need to come down first and understand the importance of being in your form And like honoring that and and seeing it as a sacred experience within itself. I love that. Yeah Then yes, then you can the heart space is So much of goodness. I mean that's the center of love not just Love that we give out to other people but our love toward ourselves And the when you work with the energy of love, that's very very powerful Tool, that's a very powerful energy However, if our heart is kind of closed down or shut down because we've shut ourselves down to To the energy or the frequency of love Because of the things that we might have gone through Um, it becomes like harder to access and we feel like we're depleted And when we feel depleted in the heart then we feel like we need to take Right, like then we feel like I don't feel full enough So then you're the energy of your heart becomes like this energy and not to say that you shouldn't have some of that But there it should it should be going out should be flowing in and out in and out both ways So that's when it's not to be able to receive Absolutely, but there's a difference between just being open to receiving versus feeling so Uh closed off That you feel like you have to take Right, yeah difference between When we say when we use the word love we again we have this romantic idea of like just always giving so much to everybody else And just just always but it's also self love to the point where again, you know boundaries again You know how to stand in your own power and not let people manipulate you that that is a form of self love as well And I know it's interesting because I know Cindy's experiences with backbending with people in yoga when they're having to really open this area people That is where you really see people having a strong visceral reaction To the feeling here and you'll even hear people like pop when they start to really open this area physically Because you do see that happening with people when they hunch down Yes, um, you know their shoulders slump over that area and it's like this this you hear the sensations You know and for yoga we know like all disciplines of yoga that i'm aware of you have to walk through Yeah, I walk through the valley of the shadow of death like you it is not it you do not start off with love and light that is The muck you have to go through your own dark soul through the own places where you suffer In your mind your const the constructs And that's what you know the whole yoga if you look through the you know speaking of yoga the yoga sutras of tangerine It's not about the mind Yeah saying okay, you need to get your mind under control because that's causing all the problems Like dude wrote this this this this book like 5 000 years ago or something. He's literally like it's like the self It's like you're your own problem He was like you're all this suffering. That's only you that's what you do Basically what he's saying. So um, so then we move up to the throat the throat area I love this. Um, this one always resonates the most with me because this was a big Point for me to be had to have to open up. This was where this is where I Close off is in my throat. So I have a personal connection With the Empowering yourself also through your throat and your communication and being able to express Truth and to unsuffocate your voice Right your voice can become small or suffocated because also all these other ones they're they're They're If they're not flowing or function or things are stuck within your body That it's hard to then like communicate your truth because you don't even know what your truth is So it's like oh you can't even say it right. You know what I mean at that point I heard somebody say too. It's like you see it with people when they've been especially for women We've been taught like don't you know say anything, you know, kind of Be be very, you know in the south you have to be this proper southern lady You see people in their jaws where they get real walk jaw It's almost like they're taking it on the chin You know because they're they're but they're holding themselves back. Yeah, they're holding they don't even and that's subconscious too They don't even realize how they much they deeply programmed themselves to be quiet Yeah, don't because if you speak your truth or if you say something that's out of line same kind of a thing You know, you'll you'll probably get punished for it or I don't like you. You'll say the wrong things. Yeah Um, yeah, it looks stupid. Yeah, right, but when we can start to Bring our throat down into our hearts Like the energy of the throat to anchor it into your heart then you can start to speak from More of that authentic place within you instead of always another interesting thing about the throat Is it's the gateway between your head and your the rest of you the head and your heart and the rest of you And I think that's interesting how why is it that your throat is the gateway? From though interesting heart. I mean, yeah, why were we made that way? You know for us to be here right now talking about what it's like to be Exactly I will say too. I know for me when I started doing youtube and I still deal with this when days when I have multiple recordings My throat is very very sore from talking so much So it's not just not speaking sometimes there can be a dysfunction when you're speaking too much When you're just, you know, that's a trauma response to people who because they that's a that's a stress response Well, yeah, I'm glad you said that because your your chakras they can hold deficiencies and they can hold excess Either way is an imbalance, right? Well, if you have an excess of throat chakram in a lot of times an excess happens because there's deficiency somewhere else and It's trying to make up for itself. Yeah And someone with an excess throat. Yeah, they do they talk a lot. They talk a lot and but if you've ever been around someone who's like that you There's not much power in their voice necessarily And the people who are listening Won't gravitate to what they're saying because there's actually no true energetic power in their voice It's more like this diarrhea of the mouth that's happening. Yeah And they're harder to listen to Because there's no good strong energetic structure that's coming out of their sound That's a good point. Yeah, you know what I mean and this is to a power especially right here Of it's a power of manifestation your voice Is a power of manifestation when you're you're talking about like Manifesting or magic or anything like that It starts with the frequency. I mean it begins with thoughts too, but The words you speak hold vibration and they they're almost like It's um magnetic It's spell. Well, at least we call it spelling for a reason. There's that's the spell. Yeah. Yeah, it's magnetic you can Yeah, it's cast spelling casting spells. Yeah You that's why whenever In the realm of the occult someone's casting spells you say it out loud Right because there's an understanding of the power of your voice But then again, you got to build that and you got to reclaim that if there is no power There or if you shut it down or maybe The your voice is more connected to your fears or your insecurities and all that then you're going to manifest more of that Do you see what I mean? So it's like you got to really Connect to the power of your voice to your higher let's surrender your voice to your higher self Instead of to your smaller self and you'll get much bigger brighter results And I will say that because I think that's a huge one that people can first start to identify with And especially if you guys feel like your jaw getting tied at night or something just connecting into that So let this is now the next one is my favorite one Yeah, I think it's everyone's favorite one. I was in a the spirit world So I move up to the next one Yes, your pineal gland your your third uh, your third eye Its color is like this beautiful indigo color And it is tied right there to your pineal gland And it is to be able Um, I mean it is tied to an intuition in a sense maybe like more for clear seeing your intuition Like your gut feeling that's more in your gut. Yeah, but this is to perceive Correctly more than anything is that when you're you're seeing That and that's that's a big thing with with the tangiling. That was what he wanted you to do in the yoga sutras He basically just wanted you to clear all your muck out so that you could see and perceive Clearly, uh, yeah, then you can make the better decisions for yourself That is an important aspect like just as far as like human function of the pipe besides being able to Like see things but just like the the the function of how it can really help you That's what Todd says all the time the point of yoga Todd's my boyfriend guys He was top of your student. He says the point of yoga is to be able to see the truth Through the illusion. Yeah, exactly. And that's this Yeah, yeah, and that is also in a lot of different cultures. They believe that this is where the soul Interes and exits the body as well And so you have this special place and I know if you like press it There's like a point there you can press a give a headache or something that can kind of You know, um, but this is a very and I actually and this is not part of the ashtanga system I teach but usually after people go up in their final Headstand and version and they're in like a child's vision I'll have students like focus on kind of pressing there a little bit You know onto their mat and and because this is such a a very physical place And a very energetic place as well and that of course connects to Your crown Yes, and this is your connection. It's color it some people have it is it depends Sometimes it's depicted as a violet color, but sometimes it's just like golden white. Yeah Light and your your sajas rara. It's your your I think it's the thousand head old lotus flower at the crown of your head Yeah, and this is your wisdom your knowledge and your understanding and connection With spirit, yeah, you know and the um The baby stop able to trust in something bigger than Yourself But then how it feeds back into you so that you can make good wise decisions The excess of a now in the spiritual world. We are a lot focused. We're up here And we don't always necessarily like yeah And ungrounded but the excess of the crown chakra. It's pretty those are serious things I mean, they're they're things like migraines again and not wanting to be connected with the rest of the world delusions schizophrenia Things like that are the dysfunctions So they're big they're mental mind dysfunctions that come from here and here If we don't allow the the chakra system or the you know the systems energetic systems in our body to work together That's interesting. I tomorrow was saying how And I know we all know this that they the powers that be like mess with our food They put stuff into our food. That's not good and it kind of calcifies our pineal gland And when they started doing that we started to see a rise in like mental disorders variety depression schizophrenia We started to see this rise because we we know the side effects of all the stuff they put in our foods now is causing Very physical things to happen like calcification of the pineal gland and now talking about the imbalance That's actually we're seeing that playing out in our world because it has We're seeing children being diagnosed with stuff that they really shouldn't be diagnosed with At their young ages and stuff like that. And so that's super interesting. You said that it's almost like they know Yeah, I mean they they kind of know how to Put how to shut you down or to suppress you Yeah You can also do one of my little favorite meditations to do and then they do it And it's a very common yogic thing to do But if you so you know your eyes close over your eyes open But you take your eyes and you focus it on your pineal gland It is you don't even have to do it long, but in just depending on the how well it's Develop sometimes you will start to see like crazy colors and the sacred geometry and all this the stuff that's um That's available to you that we don't often see because it is like calcified or closed off and Yeah, yeah, we don't see what's actually in front of us Yeah, see the truth which the truth is beyond just our five senses too, you know, I mean it's like being able to perceive um the I don't know just how alive everything really is This is gonna sound guys. I'm not I'm not suggesting you all go home and do this I'm just using this as an example, but people who participate in like Magic mushrooms. They see they're able to then open up a part where they're seeing Vibrations they're seeing things coming off of the off of the plants again This is not me telling you guys to do this. This is just an example But um, but yeah, they can all of a sudden see stuff and we do and in ashanga, especially we have like nine different vocal focal points and you do start to practice being able to actually move the eyes around And one of them is looking up and and being able to kind of work out Exercise your eyes in a way to be able to see beyond The world that is we're we see see already and we talked with us on sunday We're taught we have five senses, but our ancient ancestors were taught 10 senses And I know obviously intuition is one going to the bathroom is one I can't remember all of them, but there there is more than five senses that we have been kind of Chipping back and taking that away And so it's so and I do think and I know Cindy we've talked about this We're going into the age of aquarius into a different timeline and I'm seeing such a huge influx of people wanting to understand this Will you tell my audience you're where they can find you? I'm going to place all of Cindy's links in the description box below as well and what upcoming workshops or Seminars that you have coming that they if they were interested in coming and learning more from you Well, of course I do yoga. This is actually the space Actually in the yoga studio right now. This is the space that we do it in and Most of the classes right now not all of them, but most of the classes are run hybrid um, so we offer them zoom and in studio But when I teach the the the classes I It's important to understand the the movement of the body like why you're moving the body It's not just for exercise It is but you have to understand and now that your your body is a sacred vessel for the divine Your body and your mind are sacred vessels for that higher deeper intelligence And if your body is clogged up Then you it will be difficult to tune into the the voice or the connections of your your intuition So it's unclogging the body and working this the central nervous system That's another piece about when we're talking about being able to tell the difference between an intuition and fear A way for you to work Better toward that is clear your central nervous system Yeah, okay, because if you're your central nervous system if it's very easily triggered Then um, it's it's going to play on your fears a lot more. Absolutely. So things like When you hear things of like yoga or just moving the body it's It's that's why it's also a spiritual practice because your body is a sacred vessel. Your mind is a sacred vessel, right? But these are some of the things that I talk about too when I teach class because sometimes you're like, uh, yoga I don't want to stretch Yeah, y'all we're not making it that spiritual and how's that helping? Yeah, anything when I stretch the body what you gotta understand that your body is an akashic record You're opening up like different almost like portals and combined pathways that are giving you information It honestly guys these pretty yoga postures aren't just for shits and giggles for And sometimes it'll cause you to break down, you know why you start crying you're like what's happening to me Most of the time Myself included i'm sure Cindy included the practice isn't pretty like you see on instagram It can be quite actually ugly yoga is sometimes that the most powerful yoga Because that's when you're really digging deep and it takes a while to really understand the function So yeah, and the good thing about hybrid if those who are watching that don't live in the state of georgia Or don't live close you can sign up for cindy's classes online and take her and take her classes via zoom Just make sure that you're looking at the time zone because we are on the east coast around eastern santa time So it matches your time zone because then you can actually take a class with cindy If you're living california or canada or in another country you can actually sign up and take one So so that is one thing, you know the yoga that's probably the most basic entry level To to what i do and then if you want to delve deeper i'm also an energy practitioner And i because you know we're talking about intuition again i'm a i'm a feeler i'm a knower And since i've been working with bodies for so long because i've been teaching yoga for a long period of time i've also uh received you know Reiki masters and then shamanic healing practices i'm from peru by the way So i have a very strong lineage to my my andean roots um, so a lot of shamanic practices that i include with um working with people individually To try to untap what's in the in the subconscious. I've worked with a guy. She's good. I've worked with her She's good. She's good. So it's like I go for me specifically. I like to go through the body Because I love the body. So i'll go through the body and I can do it Zoom too I usually go through my body to go through your body because I am a feeler. It's like I'll feel in I'll feel into my body to feel into your body Um, but anyways then through there we can find if there's any like fragments So uh or psych fragments places that we want to pull back in make you whole And again, that's that's all part of the awakening process So I do individual work like that with with people who just need some Because we all need some help because we don't know what's subconscious. You know what? I mean, that's why that's the reason it's subconscious Yeah, we have no idea. It's there We know it's like that jump door. We never open conscious. We would we would know it, but it's the subconscious stuff that that within your bodies So yeah, uh, I can go in and and do that kind of work individually And then I am running a program that I'm starting august 21st But this is more for in-house and it's very limited but this is like kind of the things that I like to do um, it's called ascension And I work with the archetypes of the different I'm I'm I'm very uh I have a love for the the different god of the archetypes of the goddesses like isis and mother magdalene and even mother mary and Collie even medusa. She's like sacred rage But anyway, it's working through the archetypes to help us with the ascension That's the name of the course is ascension But it's the same kind of thing that we were talking about we have to go through Our body and recognize that we are holy vessels And um, you know that uh, again, that's limited to six people. It's only gonna be in house But that's starting in august 21st if there's And I'll put that down below guys because if you do live nearby You do want to come and participate in again I know as you said sunday to me off camera that you you want it to be an intimate group And so yes because we I do initiations to like the the goddess archetypes will come in I'm just I'm like just a channel of vessel for their energy They'll come in and work through and when I do healing sessions or energetic healing sessions the same thing kind of happens Sometimes mother mary will come in for someone who needs some of that loving mother work She'll come in and help to to do um to do the work that you need to do sweet Well for people who may be a little bit hesitant like that fears coming up as we talked about and being in a vulnerable place I will tell you with sendy. She's the safest person for you to work with she keeps everything It's very private and if you do one-on-one healing It is obviously with just you and sendy and nothing that comes out ever leaves the room Ever that would as professionals that would that's part of our our assignment is to keep it very private And if you want to do the group setting because she wants it to be small Then you wouldn't be in a huge group of people it'd be a very small group of of women It's just women you're working with or is it necessarily it's not always done Even though we're working with the female archetypes they work with men as well. Yeah I mean men need to love just as much as the women do as far as i'm concerned. Yeah, absolutely Oh, we I have a friend I'll say a janine. She reads terror cards and um She talks a lot about the goddess energy as well and for I have to say mr. T Because we can't say his name on on um youtube, but when she pulls his card It's always the goddess card because even as alpha as he is He has a feminine like there's a feminine energy to him. So yes Men and women do carry both the elements of feminine Absolutely, and maybe in the west we're kind of disconnected from that But that doesn't mean if you're an alpha male It doesn't mean that you can't tap into the softness of a female or female female You can't have the alpha from time, you know, it's it's a flowing ebb and ebb and flow of energy So yeah, absolutely So and you also have a youtube channel that you start. I just know I just now resurrected it Brand new videos on there And I'll make it well. I'll say well sacred garden sacred garden yoga is the name of the youtube channel I'll put that below guys But yes, I plan on I plan on adding adding more to it for sure. I'll send you this too as well But yeah guys, so so and if you follow Cindy on instagram as well, she's constantly She's way more active on her instagram than I am But she's constantly posting like beautiful things kind of like daily things to think about to kind of meditate on And so I will share her instagram as well So you can kind of follow along and get these little nuggets of information So and if you guys have any questions, you can always message me as well because Cindy is the guest on this channel that I'm friends with in real life In this world in this youtube world all of my youtube friends I feel like I know them in real life, but we haven't had a chance to hang out real life But believe it or not. I knew Cindy long before I did youtube I know So so I I can vouch for her if you have any questions You can always ask me to because and I can put you in contact with Cindy as well. So Well, thank you, Cindy. I'm so happy you got to do this day I know I know everybody's gonna be so excited because this has been one of the most requested Topics out of all the topics that this has been so requested. So I appreciate you coming on I know I love talking about this stuff. So I know I'm a nerd too and it comes I don't think that people because I'm always like talking about like weird stories french topics, you know Truth or something. Yeah, this is the other side of it This is the other side of the things that I love too is like talking about this energetic body and this what who are we really and You know, of course, everybody knows in my in real life job is yoga So so I'm so happy that I got to have you come back on again We'll have you come back on again as well to do some follow-up stuff. So I'm gonna put out there right now If there's anybody out there that has a specific question for Cindy just like we do with tamara and taro by janine any specific questions You have for Cindy Send them into me or put them in the comment section below and then we'll schedule another time to cover those questions We love it Awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Here. All right guys. I'll see y'all later. Bye