 لذى أرجوكم indeed أسلام علىكم أردنا بالآنة ل", مما يتبرى الزناف blow مما يتبرى الزناف, بيبيان وضبعوا عليهم مما كان بطبيع المملكة وكانت مدني بلدي والآنة هالشعال سنتحدث عن بيبيان ونشارع أكثر أجل من بيبيان كنا نتحدث عن بيبيان ونتحدث عن بيبيان ومي وندي أخي ورسلت السكولة سيد حسين القزويني وإن شاء الله سنبقى اليوم على الوضع أعتقد أننا نتحدث عن كيف يجد إمامه في عام 8 ومتحدة كانت مع السكولة أو المفتحة المفتحة يحية بن أكتم إذا كنت ت shops تف loosen those points down even more today more out the week and more topics will not fit into one hour slots they take a lifetime to understand so, of course again welcome back it was great to have you back on the show especially on such a great occasion so Seyedina the last thing we left off with in the last show was the debate we spoke about how at the age of 8 أعتقد أننا جميعا نعتقد أنه كانت في عام ٨٨ not after the marriage نعم يوجد المتحدة مع يحي أبن أكتم هل يمكنك أن تخبرنا more about this and how it changed certain things at the time أعوذ بالله من الشيطان الغجين بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم الحمد لله رب العالمين وصلى الله عليه وسلم على سيدنا محمد ومعالي وعالي هطيبين وطاهرين هسورينا تخبرنا ربما إمام الجواد كانت تخبرنا إلى المدينة الخليفة ومتحدث بشكل أكثر than any other إمام لماذا؟ لأنه كانت في such a young age وفي حاله الشيعة still followed him they still believed in him الخليفة at the time who was who was and then the last two years of the life of they wanted to embarrass the Imam they wanted to you know get him in a debate where he would lose academically he would lose so that they would say see that's your fake Imam and they thought it would have been easier seeing that he's an 8 year old he's an 8 year old so and they have them on one hand he's an 8 year old on the other hand they have to them he's the grand Mufti so they thought it's going to be a piece of cake so to speak in the last episode we mentioned a couple of those debates and I'd like to mention one now before we move on to the other segment during the time of and while إمام الجواد was a thief was brought to the court of they caught a thief and as the Quran says اصارق وصارق فقطعوا ايديهم a thief whether male or female has to lose his hand however hand is a is a loose term where is the hand yet is it the palm is it the forearm is it from the elbow is it from the shoulder because this is all yeah it's called a hand especially in Arabic in English hands usually mean this part the wrist up yeah the wrist up but in Arabic when you say hands for example the hands of أب الفضل عباس were cut off while some narrations say that they were cut off from from the elbow others say from from the wrist in Arabic hand is from from the shoulder down so ألم أمون faced a dilemma where were we going to cut off this this thief's hand from some scholars they came and they said from the shoulder right here others said from the elbow others said from the wrist and there was a major debate among the scholars themselves and of course the Sunni jurists themselves they they disagreed and this is not this is not a shock when we look at the Fiqh the jurisprudence of the Sunni schools of thought sometimes we see them disagree with each other more than they disagree with us in some cases they disagree with each other more than they disagree with us most of the time I think they have no bases on some of the the rulings that they have right it's either based on قياس or استقسان or you know the principles that they came up with anyhow ألم أمون says well we have محمد الجواد here in Baghdad let us ask him they brought him to court and of course he's all the spotlight is on him because last resort everyone's been debating during this young man and whatever he says it will you know it will go against what the Sunni juris were saying so محمد جواد said we do not cut from the shoulder we do not come from from the elbow we do not come from the wrist we only cut the four fingers just four fingers we leave the thumb and we cut the four fingers and we keep the palm everyone was shocked why قرآن says فقطعوا أيديهما so you would assume that you would assume it's minimum from the minimum from the elbow elbow or from the wrist but not the fingers محمد جواد said what will do you want the evidence or no I'll provide you the evidence you see the palm in فقه it's called a masjid or a masjid why because during سجود it has to be seven of our body parts have to be on the ground our forehead the two palms it's not enough to go like this raise your fingers the palms have to be flat on the ground the two knees and the two big toes on your feet not the entire not all the toes just the two big toes these are called the masjid المساجد السبع meaning that during prostration these seven have to be on the ground well محمد جواد said القرآن says وأن المساجد لله فلا تدعو مع الله أحدة المساجد لله how else would he pray if we were to cut off how else would he seek repentance for his act how else would he pray prostrate, seek repentance he has to pray by cutting off his hand from the wrist he won't be able to pray meaning we will sabotage the prayer so we cut off from the fingers and the believer took that answer and they cut off the four fingers of that thief and that's how it is even the enemies they take the knowledge and they take the advice because it's pure wisdom so no matter how much they try to embarrass the Imam or oppose the Imam they believed in them they believed in them that's we are firm believers that whether it was بني أمية or even بني العباس most likely بني أمية they knew the truth and deep down in their hearts there was Shi'a there was Shi'a in that they believed in the Imam they knew he was a real Imam and he's the connection between الله and the people they didn't want to use power it was power it was an issue of power they knew that the Ahl al Bayt were more deserving they were the grand children of Rasool Allah they were infallible they were immaculate they had the knowledge but it was the power that stopped them you see that today as well of many of the big so-called scholars in some Muslim countries they know what's in their books they know what's being said for example the most common حديث of the Qur'an and the Ahl al Bayt they know that's that's that correct حديث in their book yet so they don't lose their position and their authority and their respect they go on to say for example Qur'an and Sunnah it's one of many examples recently I had a debate with some Sunni scholars some of them had graduated from Azhar others had graduated from other places on the topic of Sahaba and I brought several verses from the Qur'an that shows that the Sahaba committed sins they disobeyed Rasool Allah they disobeyed Allah Allah speaks to them in a very rough voice in a very harsh tone they said yeah we accept this we accept that the Sahaba some of them committed Al-Kaba some of the biggest sins they're unforgivable but at the end of the day we have to respect them Sahaba are a red line although they committed adultery and they drank and based on what they're playing that's what a topic for another day Insha'Allah but we've spoken about two of the main debates now the first one was the the Haram one I believe we spoke about in the last show about the the Muhram that kills an animal whether it's wild or not and then the Imam prepared all these questions and the other debate was on the cutting of the hand are there any other points in the Imam's life that show his wisdom in such a way there are there's plenty of discussions that he had with the various sects of of Shi'a Islam that you know that deviated but I've kept this for you know Insha'Allah perhaps for the third episode Insha'Allah we'll bring some chapters some scenes of those debates and conversations of course this is a sea of topics you can get out of this absolutely but we also discussed yesterday was how could well we have some sort of some sort of a hadith that shows us that Imam was given Imam at the age of 7 or 8 but how can we prove it in other ways if you know what I'm saying so we have sat in a hadith some state that it was 8 some state might have been a bit later what evidence do we have how can we sort of prove this sure anyone that were to hear that Imam Jawad was an Imam at the age of 8 Imam Al-Hadi was an Imam at the age of 8 Imam Al-Mahdi was an Imam at the age of 5 you start having doubts what's going on here right for some people it's not very easy to accept the fact that there was an Imam at the age of 8 Imam Imam you know it's easy for you to call someone an Imam but was he actually an Imam and what I mean by actually an Imam was he a unique individual was the authority in his hands did he have authority did he have the knowledge did he have the credentials the intellectual the spiritual all of the credentials that are needed in Imam did he really have them otherwise we could call anyone an Imam for some I think it's difficult to believe that is why I want to shed light and I think it's very important for us if we're going to talk about Imam Jawad this is one of the most important aspects to prove as Imam at the age of 8 because if we can't then then how do we prove Imam Lahadi or Imam Mehdi no and then belief in him is going to be just out of by force just because I have to believe in him no we don't want we don't want to have to believe in him we want to believe in him we want to understand exactly we want to be convinced not because we've been told that if you don't believe in the Imam of Imam Jawad you're going to go to hell or you're not a follower we want to be convinced and that's what I'd like to do you know till the end of the segment tonight insha'Allah to prove that Imam Jawad was not a fake he was a real Imam with all the credentials now and I think that if we were successful in doing this Imam Jawad by himself will prove the authority of the Imam of Imam Jawad he will prove the magnanimity and the power and the authority and the knowledge of Ahlulbayt because if an 8 year old had all the credentials then imagine what Imam Ali had and what Imam Hussain had imagine what Imam Al-Sadaq had at the age of 70 let's scientifically speaking let's let's speak objectively let's pretend we're not Shia let's pretend right now we want to prove the Imam of Imam Jawad not just to Shia but to non-Shia as well so let's not use Ahadith for a second no Ahadith we're going to take a scientific approach okay Imam Al-Jawad was called an Imam at the age of 8 and he died at the age of 25 during this period of what we said what 17 years during these 17 years the Shia were following him he was their Imam no one else claimed to be an Imam historically speaking what we refer to in history books no one else claimed to be an Imam during these 17 years he was the only one they referred to him and for the Shia he was their Imam let's look at the various possibilities one he was a fake he had no knowledge he was a regular 8 year old child right and he had no credentials whatsoever okay well what about the Shia that were following him he was a child without knowledge this is one possibility what about the hundreds of thousands of Shia that were following him and the scholars that were following him and the scholars one possibility is that they were Shalo as well they had no knowledge they were Shalo and they were easily fooled that's putting the whole a whole generation of people to the side let's see is this possible or is this not possible it's very much possible for a Shalo group to be led by a Shalo leader we've seen this in Iraq we've seen the person that claims to be Yemeni obviously he's a crook obviously he's a crook and the ones that are following him what are they rocket scientists irregular people that have been fooled by this person that's claiming to be Yemeni perhaps he might get away with it why because he's an old man but a child at the age of 8 how can he get away with it how can he fool others this is not possible for why for the Shi'a community to be Shalo and ignorant to the point that they're easily fooled that is not possible why because Imam Al-Jawad came after Imam Al-Raza Imam Al-Kalim Imam Al-Sadaq and Al-Baqar Imam Al-Baqar and Imam Al-Sadaq they raised a generation of scholars scholars of course these were educated men so the whole society was educated enough to understand if this kid this 8 year old is a fake is a fake or not a fake the students of Imam Al-Sadaq some of them if they wanted to if they had love of dunya they could have been like Abu Hanif Malik Bin Anas Shafi'a and Ahmad Bin Hamid they could have claimed a school of thought of their own they had the credentials they could have smoothly taken over but they didn't the generation of the of the students of Imam Al-Baqar the students of Imam Al-Sadaq the students of Imam Al-Sadaq the students of Imam Al-Qadim Imam Al-Qadim unfortunately we don't give them enough credit Imam Al-Qadim also had a lot of students one of them was his brother Ali ibn Musa many of them were alive نعم أفن Ali ibn Ja'far but many of them were alive still during the time of Imam Al-Hadi absolutely and during the life of Imam Radha and during the life of Imam John where did these scholars disappear they didn't disappear they were in the ummah in the Shi'a community now scholars like this for example a person like Ali ibn Mahziar Safwan ibn Yahya Muhammad ibn Abi Umayr these huge scholars Ali ibn Ja'far huge scholars do you think they would be fooled these scholars that were used to the likes of Imam Al-Baqar Imam Al-Sadaq Imam Al-Qadim Imam Radha now an 8 year old child was leading them they would not expect anything less they would expect someone on the same level as the previous imams but the difference is in age they were not shallow in fact at the time the Shi'a community was extremely educated the Shi'a community was at the epicenter of academic discussions have you know more than now because they had the imams there and then they had the imams they had that direct knowledge from Allah through the imams to them absolutely we are having to deal with fabricated a hadith through broken chains through you know unknown sources but at that time there's no comparison I think right we refer to Sunni books of biographies علم الرجال in you know with our Sunni brothers and sisters look at their books of rujal for example a Zahabi he has a book on rujal استغفر الله I forgot the name of his book a Zahabi is very well known in علم الرجال see how he refers to the not the Ahl al-Bayt the followers of Ahl al-Bayt their students he will mention that so and so was a scholar was a Rawi was a great narrator except he was a Rafali as if that's a you know that's a big problem even that's a sign of pride for us but exact at the time there were centers of learning for the Shi'a there were Shi'a communities of learning just like we have قوم and نجاف and كربلا today كوفا was a major center of learning for the Shi'a مدينة was a major center of learning for the Shi'a قوم قوم قوم has an old history from the time of the imams it has a history with places like this you cannot be fooled it's like you know and this scholar didn't just benefit Islam but they benefited science they benefited a lot of different topics as well like if you want to take Islam out of the equation here right I love them became scientists they they like Jabra and Hayan some of them were mathematicians biologists chemists if it wasn't for these figures we wouldn't have half the things that we are dealing with half the technologies absolutely my point is the Shi'a could not have been fooled by an 8 year old child we have to take a break let me just give this example and we'll move on imagine if a you know a man goes to Harvard and claims to have a PhD and wants to lecture at Harvard is he not going to get caught is he going to be fooled is he I'm sorry is he going to fool people or a person that that goes to Cambridge and Oxford and claims to have a PhD and wants to lecture he'll easily get caught of course you can't fool a group of scholars how did Imam Al-Jawada if he was a fake was able to fool not for a year or two years for 17 years Imam Al-Jawada was at the hierarchy of the Shi'a community how did he do it if there was so this is not a possible we'll discuss this further Insha'Allah after a break Insha'Allah so brothers and sisters respective viewers please join us after a short break we'll continue to discuss and try to prove from a hadith and scientifically how the Imam was truly an Imam so join us after the break Insha'Allah بابك كين هتدي علمنا يقينا بأن الذي يريد الإله بكم يبتدي تحوم الملائك طرا عليه وفودا من الباب بالمرقد علمنا يقينا بأن الذي يريد الإله بكم يبتدي تحوم الملائك طرا عليه وفودا من الباب بالمرقد وتمساح منك بضريح الشموس فيرقا جمالا على الفرقدي وتمساح منك بضريح الشموس فيرقا جمالا على الفرقدي وتمساح منك بضريح الشموس فيرقا جمالا في this show the second show where we are celebrating the birth of Imam Al-Jawad peace and blessings be upon him earlier during the show I was discussing with my dear brother in respect to the scholar Sayyed Hussein and Qazweeni on how we can prove أعلم أنه أمام الجواد في عائل 8 من حديث كيف يمكنك التحديث من أسلامي نحن نتحدث عنه ونحن نتحدث عنه أعتقد أنه أسلامي إذا كنت أخذنا كما نتحدث عنه نتكلم أن إذا كنت أريد التحديث من أسلامي مع أسلامي مع وضعا جاء ليست تقول أن와ي رضة أمام رضا فإن عذابنا نتكلم عنه حسن شخص قدر أن أسلام عائل 8 من حديث يمكن أن تكون أمام مع كل مقاومة إمام يمكنك أن تستطيع أن تستطيع أن تتحرك من جميع الأمام مع جميع الأمام والأمام والأمام والأمام نحن نقول one possibility was that if we don't accept that the Imam was a real Imam while the other possibility is that he was a fake and the Shi'a were fooled they were uneducated they were ignorant and they were naive and they were able to be fooled but this is not possible the Shi'a were educated enough there were enough scholars more than enough educated they were educating others that this is not a possibility another possibility was that the Shi'a they were educated they had the knowledge but the concept of Imam was still not clear they still didn't know who an Imam should be and what does it mean to be an Imam especially after all the distortion there's a lot of distortions exactly they saw a person like Yazid can be an Imam and a person like Mu'awiyah can be an Imam so what are the standards at least this is an innocent child who's never drank who's never committed a sin let us call him an Imam if these people like Ben Umayah and Ben Abbas can be Imams then it's very easy for anyone else to be called an Imam so the concept of Imam was not clear to them this is a possibility however we see that this possibility is incorrect as well why? because what makes a Shi'a a Shi'a what's the core difference between Shi'a and Sunnis was it regarding Salah was it regarding fasting was it regarding moonsighting what was it regarding it was regarding Imam the core difference we accept the same Qur'an we accept the same Prophet we accept the same Qiblah the same God we agree on everything except the majority of things and I think the main thing we disagree on is the Imam of course we do I mean some of the details we do disagree on other topics but the core issue is Imam Imam is what makes a Shi'a a Shi'a and a Sunni a Sunni the one who accepts Imam and puts Imam who puts the Imam in the line of Ali ibn Abi Talib and his children and believes in their Asma and they have been divinely ordained those persons are Shi'a otherwise you are a Sunni it's not just about putting titles to it it's not titles it's the reality of who we believe was the true leader until now who the true leader is exactly that is why the Shi'a they knew who an Imam was they knew who an Imam was they knew that an Imam is a unique figure who has a special religious position he's not an ordinary person he doesn't commit sins he doesn't think of sinning he doesn't even commit Makru a non-recommended a discouraged act this is what he's spiritual he connects to Allah he's holy he performs miracles this is two three he's on an educational level he's on an intellectual level which was proven in the debates that we've spoken which was proven in the debates so an Imam is not a regular person the Shi'a is not ignorant of Imams so we're saying that this option is at the window that they don't understand because they knew clearly that this was the lineage of the Ali ibn Abi Talib and they are the true Imams this is the correct path to Shafa'a they knew that the Imam has to be from Ahl al-Bait he has to be from Quraish he has to be from the children of Ali ibn Abi Talib he has to be appointed by the previous Imam he has to prove his knowledge he has to prove himself they knew who an Imam was there's a set criteria that I think everyone knew let me give you an example when Imam Ar-Radhaid died I talked about this yesterday the story that people gathered in the house of Imam Sadaq Abdullah ibn Musa ibn Musa ibn Ja'far Abdullah the son of Imam Al-Qalam the brother of Imam Ar-Radha he came out and he sat in the middle as if he didn't say with his own tongue as if to say that is giving an impression that I am the Imam one of the narrators he says that I came inside the house of Imam Sadaq and I heard people whispering talking that he's not the Imam for sure why? because two brothers cannot be imams except Al-Hasan and Al-Hussain it was in the minds of the Shia they knew that the only case in which two brothers were imams were Imam Al-Hasan and Imam Al-Hussain otherwise two brothers will never be imams it's always from father to son to grandson and so on and so forth it shows that they were on a level that they knew the conditions of Imam to the point that they knew in the specific detail that two brothers cannot be imams when we look at the life of the Ahl al-Bait they knew who an Imam was they would ask the Ahl al-Bait will you appoint will you not? it's not like they were in a distant land they were around the Imam they spoke to the Imam all their lives they were brought up under the direction of the Imam right some assume that the Imam has to be the eldest son for example the Imam corrected them thus they had an impression of who an Imam was not you know not anyone could come and fill the shoes of an Imam and claim that he's an Imam so this is not possible this this is not possible to say that well the Shia at the time the Shia community was ignorant of the stage of Imam and Imam Ajwa could have easily filled that position because they didn't know for them it was a symbolic position just like monarchs today it doesn't matter because there's a prime minister today in the UK we have prime minister and there's a parliament if the queen dies and the prince dies and there's a small child a 3 year old child so you don't mind making that child what? king because he's not really going to lead it's a symbolic it's a symbolic position everyone knows that the king is a symbolic position let it be a 1 year old child there's no big deal were the Shias like that that's impossible that's impossible history has proven we have enough evidence to suggest that the Ahl al-Bait they knew who an Imam was and what it meant for a person to be an Imam so that's 2 options that's 2 options and we've crossed them a 3rd option is that the Shia community they realized that the Imam was a fake he was just a child he had no knowledge and they were okay with it because they were Shia and they did not want to admit the truth and their loyalty to Ahl al-Bait was blind loyalty to the point that even if it's an 8 year old child a fake Imam with no credentials wanted to lead they were okay with that basically they accepted a fake Imam they accepted whatever came out they were accepted because they believed that they don't want to show the world that they were wrong about Ahl al-Bait you could say you could say they were like a political party in some countries a political party will back their candidate no matter who he is we saw that recently in the United States of America when you have someone that claims to be from a specific political party and they know that he might be the worst president in the history of the United States but because he's from their political party they're going to back him they're going to stick with him even though he's a fake but that's it he's from my political party I'm not going to say no to him we're the Shi'a like that they're going to say we're going to support him even though he's fake even though he's empty of all credentials he doesn't have the intellectual credentials the religious credentials the spiritual credentials but we're going to back him this is not possible why? when we look at the lives of the Shi'a you have to study history now I'm speaking to those that have seen history and that have seen the lives of the Ahl al-Bait they were persecuted for being Shi'a only only for being Shi'a they didn't you know they didn't lead revolutions they didn't lead uprisings no no just for being Shi'a just for visiting the homes of the Ahl al-Bait and being their followers they were persecuted they were killed they were jailed their belongings were confiscated confiscated they were sent into exile one example is Muhammad ibn Abi Umair Muhammad ibn Abi Umair was one of the great narrators one of the great scholars one of those companions of Ahl al-Bait who wasn't for him many of the narrations of Ahl al-Bait would not have reached us Muhammad ibn Abi Umair was jailed he was jailed and he was beat in so much he was beat in so much and he was tortured in jail so that he would give the names of the followers the other Shi'a you know just like the days of Saddam you were put in jail and you were tortured to give the names of of everyone in your area and in the area who belonged to us certain political parties Muhammad ibn Abi Umair did not give in he was tortured tortured he was beat in so much to the point that he lost some of his memory for example he had memorized his chain of narrators he had heard narrations from the Ahl al-Bait but not directly through certain individuals he had memorized their names after being tortured he lost some of his memory you forgot their names this is very much possible when you're traumatized when you go under so much stress you forget certain names even your own name you might forget your own name and that's what happened you could say you sort of cut yourself that there were those Shi'a who would give their lives no matter what to the Ahl al-Bait of course of course but my question is why would you do that for a fake Imam assuming it was a fake Imam why would you do that if it was a fake Imam why would you be killed and persecuted and sent to exile and your money is confiscated and all of that for what for a fake Imam if it was a fake Imam if it was a fake Imam you would support it to a certain extent exactly when it comes to let's say your wealth your life your health your family there's a line let's put it this way at that time there was no worldly advantage in being a Shi'a if you wanted to be a Shi'a you had to pay a price no one was passing out money no one was giving you positions no one was making you ambassadors and ministers no if you wanted to be a Shi'a you would have to pay the price that benefits forget the benefits you would be prosecuted as a Shi'a that meant if you wanted to be a Shi'a you had to have a very good reason you had to have a very good reason to believe in a fake Imam with no credentials with no knowledge why would you want to be a Shi'a if wouldn't it make sense that if your Imam was fake well it's better to accept Ma'amoon it would be better to accept Al-Mu'tasim they're both fake at least that fake Imam at least that fake Imam at least that fake Imam might make you a minister he might make you an ambassador you might get money you won't be prosecuted you won't go to jail you won't go to prison if they're both fake logically it would make sense to follow Al-Ma'oon and not an 8 year old child by the name of Imam Al-Jawaj who will get you in trouble doesn't that make sense of course makes perfect sense yeah why take the risk for 17 years they remained loyal to him they remained his followers they were willing to sacrifice their lives for him they went they came to his house they visited him and this shows that he was not a fake the fourth possibility those possibilities rationally they're not possible but not even using حديث yeah rationally they're not logical the fourth possibility was that it was not a fake it was a real Imam with the real knowledge with real wisdom with real spirituality all the credentials he had all the credentials he was about some he was sinless you see him as a child an 8 year old he was an 8 year old body but when he came to his mind his intellect his heart he was a grown up he was an adult he thought like an adult he spoke like an adult he taught like an adult he acted like an adult and that's the correct explanation otherwise how do you explain to me that for 17 years he wasn't living in the jungles he wasn't living in a distant place no he was living in Medina Medina is the second capital of Islam first is Mecca the second is Medina the second holiest city for all Muslims not just Shia who doesn't visit Medina you go to Hajj you have to come to Medina you go to Umrah you come to Medina and the house of Imam Al-Jawad was open for everyone for Shia and not Shia imagine the amount of people that would come and visit the house of Imam Al-Jawad and meet him do we have a single person in history that says he was a fake that I came and I met the Imam of the Shia but he was an embarrassment he couldn't answer my not even the Imam could do that and I will mention that I will emphasize that Imam Al-Jawad was at the at the core of Islam he was in the heart of the Islamic community his door was open people would come in go out you know the Imam was not leading an underground movement for example this Yemeni guy have you seen him no one has seen him no one has seen him you just see a few videos here and there on YouTube just a couple of videos and that's it no one has met him no one has heard of his lectures no one has seen books no one has seen anything about him it's an underground movement you could easily fool people if it's an underground movement that no one sees you could easily this Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi guy who has seen one appearance one appearance he stood for Friday prayer he gave a sermon and he disappeared and these idiots the followers of ISIS they all think he's the Khalifa of the Muslims why? because they only saw him once and then he disappeared they didn't get to interact they didn't get to ask him questions because they would have seen true colors otherwise they would have seen his true colors he's just a gangster he's part of the mafia he's a thug Imam Al-Jawad was at the center in Medina his house was open for people to meet him see him ask questions hear his sermons how could he have been a fake how could he have been a fake this keep in mind that he had enemies you know if you're someone who doesn't have enemies no one cares about what you do you could you could commit the biggest crime and you could get away with it but when you have enemies that you're that they're waiting for you to slip they're waiting for you to commit a mistake so that they blow it up not even a sin a little mistake a little mistake they would publicize about it if Imam Al-Jawad was a fake and he had all of these debates and these debates are not just in our sources the debates with يحي بن أكتم they've been mentioned in all books of history of Islam if he had slipped once wouldn't المأمون and the other خلفاء and his his system have all the motive to expose Imam Al-Jawad and say that your Imam is a fake that he's empty of all of all credentials that he has no knowledge so clearly he did not slip up which means which means that he was a real Imam that he was an ordained Imam that he had all the credentials and this is this is not you know it's not something shocking right I can give lots of examples from history there were you could call them miracle childs children that had great intellect they were smart they were intelligent they have great IQs right that have the potential to lead and you will find them in a lot of countries plenty plenty in America in America in the West I'm sure you will find a lot of children that have great IQs that can that start college and they're at 10 or 11 years old there are many they're bright children they're miracle children they have great memories and they're intelligent and they have the ability to accomplish and contribute at young ages in our Islamic countries as well we have a lot of examples of children that memorize the Quran at the age of 4 5 unbelievable that's when you first start speaking not just memorize the Quran they're able to answer you from the Quran whatever whatever question you give them they answer you from the Quran you ask them about a specific verse they'll tell you it's in this chapter in this page it's on the right side or on the left side we have gifted children all of this what surprises me is we have all these examples in front of us when it comes to the Imam we say it's impossible we say it's impossible you know it's not right we have the certain Khalifahs of the time it doesn't make sense I'd love to continue with this topic it's been a very you know very important topic to speak about we've learned a lot from this إن شاء الله we'll continue in the next episode again it's been an honor to have Saydeh Hussein on the show with us it's been great to have you the viewers watching and إن شاء الله we'll continue in the next episode celebrating the birth of Imam Al-Jawad on that note thank you very much for viewing السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته