 Wow. Wow. That was something. That was beautiful. That was good. That was beautiful. Yes Future builder Future builder Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir Is that how things normally start you sit down with someone just a person sometimes stay silent and then you go after a period of just looking at each other and Smiling serious laughing breath You go yes, sir, and then they say something. I just See you take the lead a lot in general In terms of the flow of things. Yeah. Yeah, I'm also very down to have other people Take the lead of the flow when it's going in like a really good trajectory for beautiful play between humans and Throughout time. I'm like so when you hold space sometimes it's like No Silence and just Like a spirit-to-spirit meeting beforehand sometimes there's none of that sometimes there is that Sometimes the person may right away just say something about what they want to talk about sometimes it may take a really long time Before something said Is that about because you do the space holding Yeah, I've been asking myself that question for a long time now. Why are we here? That one. Yeah, so I took it to the abstract one, which I love that question Why humans are here on the planet, but why you and I are sitting here in space that's being held by you It's exploration Exploration of a non repetitive states of consciousness of very unique deep Explorations of the psyche of the spirit, but you're already good. Aren't you? No, I don't know myself. I think anyone that says they know themselves It's hard to say that one knows themselves fully And I have a bunch of things especially from like when you're born into the world and even before that all the ancestral stuff that happens With your parents and their parents and their parents through you and then when you're born You don't even know anything that really happened to you until you were a couple years old. So a Lot of things got laid into me that I'm not that aware of so we could potentially see what What's there? I like being closer to your eyes You're like a little kid sometimes. I love it. It kind of reminds me of Alexia The little spirit kid just felt a lot of like like Sadness about being a child and Missing it a lot about the children growing up today and what they're experiencing Feels really nice to see it and moat like that Feels like a gift move really fast on the show It's not really space for what's nice when there is Space for docking Cry of these feelings. Yeah They're unique their novel They're non-repetitive. When does your? Spirit get so we're sitting here feeling together 26 year old hairy grown Man leaders man. Yeah humans feeling together Such a beautiful thing slowing down enough in the craziness of the economic machinery to Just Be thanks for leaving the way with Emoting today. I felt a lot even right after that want to share that you want it. Yeah Please I love seeing you like this. I love feeling it the space for it Yes, yeah what I felt innocence you're innocent the innocence of Spirits when they're first brought into the world unready some parents are and how aspects of our society Don't necessarily always enable the young innocent spirit to fully realize itself There's so much about that the forgetting fall from grace Forgetting that we come from creation from mother from spirit from nature That's what they say Yeah, I'm feeling it Is I'm here brother. I love you I love you too. I don't think I felt it so Much before because I'm so frequently just Intellectualizing about the subject. Yes, I'm sure that's a frequent thing that are here. Yes I'm always thinking about it, but I haven't felt it if People are willing to go there He is yeah, oh He's serious 26 year old Alan Sakyan commanding leader Just breaking down here. Yeah out of love. Yeah and being totally Happy with that being with it. Yeah Thanks, Ron. Thanks, Ron. What is it that is holding back? our leaders of The world from doing this Well, what will people think? What will people think of us? The first thing that came up is the fear of being perceived as weak That's the first thing that I that I feel that many people that we've built a society up on that That's the reason why we will share these vulnerable Beautiful moments it's a can you imagine the presidents of countries sitting here like this and just like Like we're having emotional deep depths Exploring them like that About the families about their upbringings about Children that's the room That's what mother would want us to to be Harmoniously and consciously living with each other and the nature that we were decided yes Yeah, like I Feel like I'm just watching Like just watching like What is going on? Damn Kind of humbling. That's how I feel about our world too. It's this Humble little spirit coming through and just just feeling and watching why could you feel so much without even being on anything? without even being on drugs like Yeah, that's a great question. So it's such an important one not everyone knows that this level of love is like Available They're saying it doesn't require mind-altering substances Exogenous substances it doesn't require it. It's all within our ability to get to these levels of love And it's so profound so unexplored There was a really good way of putting it recently Which was that you can go to any corner In metropolises in order food in any ethnicity in any way or style That you want, but why for something as OG as So baked into our human evolution the social emotional Relationships between each other is there no Ubiquity and metropolises for you to just go and say hey, I'd like to order some blank and then With this specific style from this specific ethnicity Etc and be able to just sit down and be with someone that can help You with that social emotional aspect are ultimately yourself Yeah The holding space for ourselves Yeah Forgetting about that Is sad but it's a challenge so I like both feel really like sad about bus forgetting About the importance of that But I also feel like Rise up To the challenge that is why there is the challenge Because it's supposed to be hard we came To forget and play in the mud and Remember that's what they say and that's what it feels like where does one even start with thinking about their Ancestors and what they experienced and what you then carry and also What you picked up from your first couple months and years of life Where does one even start? to say that that I'm what I am now and that's That's that and I will I will shield off everything and Carry myself this way that's like Forgetting so much of the point of life to bring those walls down To remember how complex who you are actually is and To be able to be willing to dive into that yourself through sincere deep self-work and also to Have the space for bringing other people into that. Yes and sharing it feeling together Yes I like what you said about yourself because That's the most important relationship and that's who You got to be truthful with No, no matter what Then at first there's a skillfulness to who do I want to share my heart with? right like when I started Opening to my grief and stuff then it was like okay. Hang on Some friends Maybe some family Do I want to share it to my coach? Probably not you know, so it's there's a skillfulness, but with yourself We can become more truthful in this world We can build more clarity We can unravel our parts We can undistort our love We can integrate our pieces I love it Ori. I love it. Oh so well said There's something that you mentioned I think so important is remembering that as we start Undistorting this love that How we decide to share With who we decide to share How we decide to share it's very important All it takes sometimes is one person to say oh That's so lame and then you from your Perspective of wanting to feel and share and open up can just close you back up. Yeah And the opposite is also true that you can share and then someone can Validate and then you're forever healed like Transform the opposite of trauma, you know so But it all starts with self sensitivity Yes, you talk about nature, you know being sensitive to life We and we are a piece of life so Building sensitivity to ourselves Is the spiritual path building sensitivity to ourselves as the spiritual path? Yes Getting to know ourselves. Yeah, no matter what that looks like Doesn't matter if it looks insane if we're insane. We should I mean Insanity is enlightenment But we need to get it out Under the light to be witnessed and integrated and understood So then we're a walking integrated force of nature I'm just feeling it again. Oh Yeah, yes, you're doing that very well tonight It's a sensitivity to both how much I want To more deeply go into these spaces I Help others go more deeply into these spaces With their sensitivity, I just make it so that the the streets of our world are filled with more of these sensitive Yes spiritual beings Yes Yes now One might wonder What if I'm practicing becoming sappy What if I'm becoming that way by feeling This is very good point. Yeah, and my experience is That's not the case. It can be if you actually do that if you Start saying hey, this is this feels really healing. I'm gonna try to agree a lot then yeah, but If you're just aware of your body of yourself and within the flow of your life in Your reflection your journaling these things do arise Then you're processing You're shedding you're integrating And you're becoming a pure less distorted vessel for us And you can show up more cleanly more clearly For others most of the Quote-unquote a hole a holes that we encounter in our lives that get under our skin They're just in pain And so when we Get to know and be okay with and feel and process our pain We can show up differently in our footprint quote-unquote becomes greener move Feel like I'm a MC I just like had to hug myself because that was so you know that was so warm and yeah Ah But I hear that oh Damn the greener Essence are as we move through the world more positive the aura is more abundance. It's more sensitive and The people that aren't feeling that usually that haven't dive into those steps are like you said in some sort of a pain or some sort of a trauma or Have never even went there and know that that even exists and Then just live on the surface of emotion instead of in the depths of emotion And I think the point you made about sappiness is really important because You can be on either side of this deep end Let's say you can either be on the side of where you've Never ever ever experienced any of the deep vulnerable beautiful Emotions and tapped into what your ancestors have felt tapped into what you yourself have felt when you were young tapped into any of those traumas or any of the pains But you can also be on the other side, which is where you just constantly live in that all the time Yes, there's a skillfulness to it. So there's a skillfulness in both Diving really deep into those and then coming back with like things that you've learned mm-hmm and Then there's also the skillfulness of knowing how to share and who to share with how to hold space Yes, and so I've told people like step one like I shared is Knowing our truth being honest with number one like That truthful relationship with yourself that's step one, you know, so like journaling and getting good at encapsulating your heart you know If I meet a girl that I like maybe I journal and I get really clear and sometimes it might be really like Soft and innocent like I hope we can be friends like oh like that captures literally like How I'm feeling like I just feel like that child and then that's step one like Capture your heart be truthful with yourself know your step to is then you can play with it to meet the situation maybe I'll Send off a text with exactly that or maybe I'll alter it By sensing into it. There's a skillfulness. Maybe this person hasn't done as a lot of this sort of work And so it won't land in a healthy way that's so So true when When if if one has done a good amount of the work and then someone else has not that the messaging can be Lost I want to even say even before know thyself Or maybe together with know thyself as the most important things is also just Know the true essence and embodiment of how beautiful it is to even be alive to be here in Creation itself is enough. Mmm. Mmm. And with that know yourself Mmm. So like those two principles like roaring together Everyone was carrying those two principles whoa, yeah And like you said, yeah craft the craft of the of the message maybe altered due to the How many accolades the person has from going deep into their own Selves as well as other people need to do this more. We need to do this more. We need to share this more We need to make this cool. We need to make this mainstream Yes To talk about this wisdom with influencers. Yeah Yeah, can you imagine if we had some of the Influencers sitting Here to unpack the the depths with How cool could they make it really quickly But it's also fun doing it at the grassroots level too. Yes. Yeah But we need to make it we need to win the wisdom race Did the amount of technologies? That have the capacity that have been democratized that have the capacity to be malevolent We have to level up our wisdom really fast And so by making things mainstream like holding space we can level up our wisdom faster Yes But what influencers want to do this what influencers want to talk about it I've been thinking about that it'll take a little bit of time to because if you're already killing the game as Your stick well, what game were you really killing is another question? What game are you succeeding at? You're succeeding at that surface game? But have you succeeded at the depths? Because if we show that there's a whole nother game that hasn't been explored that you're not the master at yet It can maybe incentivize people but to go Masters if people have mastered something then why do that nobody likes becoming the student again only if you're Inspired yeah, and also just that how how boring does it become if If you embody that mentality of never wanting to become the student again to constantly be a student of life has such a Deep meaningful fulfilling purpose, and so if you if you ever just say I've already mastered it I'm just gonna for the next 60 years just chill. It's like You know, there's more there's more things to master don't you want to go and explore those? Social emotional intelligence There's nothing more epic than a path of accelerated healing and growth Yeah Nothing more epic than a path accelerated healing and growth we can make this popular If ever then I guess now I guess today Things are shifting there We haven't even gotten into that was just one little piece of it. It was just being here and And just being with each other feeling together and then Finally we got to something within me about Feeling the little spirits that are coming through the world and then being able to figure themselves out that that Brought forth what it did for us and that was just that that wasn't even going deep into oh Unlimited we're unlimited who our parents are who their parents are who we are how they influenced us Who we were when we were just born into the world where we were living at the time? What was our birth place? Where was it? What did we absorb when we were there? Well, this is the mind. I people think of a mind as some Abstract like thinking thing, but I see it as this web of like real parts there are these like cords and energetic dynamics and They're an ecosystem we live in and So we can garden it we can nourish it we can discern within our garden and cut some weeds and Mmm Yeah Now that wasn't that was a great one. That's so okay. Let's let's feel that together. Do we really just have Thousands of flowers in our garden and that's it hmm Probably not we probably have some weeds in our garden We probably have some soil that hasn't been getting much water or attention recently We probably have some Sometimes we may only have just patches of the same flower We haven't diversified our garden with other flowers Yeah, I like this one This is a good one. It's a good one for the synthesis. I'll remember that one It has a lot to do with that with having the right nutrients and then being able to flower really good fruits That's so much to do with that. I love that Let's make this cool and let's make it easy so it can be as Easy as identifying maybe five people that you Think could be a good fit for this type of a thing in your network and then and then asking them to do it and Being really vulnerable about Asking them to do it Maybe you say that you want to share something Maybe you say that I want to hold space for you to want to share something or just see what emerges But and you can start really simple when you do get there of talking about people's Childhood or people's relationship with their parents or who they are You know, who are you really? What is your purpose here and that in itself can open up like a oh my gosh Why haven't I asked that question to myself in the last? Month six months year two years ten years ever And that can open up so much good stuff So it's popularized that and then also get it more Influencers start hearing these things more these leaders around the world start hearing holding space. Why is that so cool? Why have I haven't why haven't I heard of it? Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna hold space And I'm gonna put it on my Social platforms. I want to do it too. Yeah, I want to feel that And they'll they're all raving about feeling. They're not even using any drugs. I Want to feel like that too. They look blissed out and loving And they also can channel all sorts of other energies radiantly because they've Cleaned out the muck and we become a better channel for our own purposes When we clear out the muck and also we can then become a channel for so many other Superconductor There's like every setting is an energetic equation and the energy is shared And so if you're clear like it gets interesting you have the capacity if you're clear to Deal with the energy equation in ways that are fluid and they're dynamic and Balancing balancing the energy versus when you have muck. It's almost as though Whatever is happening in the energy equation That first of all, you're not really perceiving the energy equation. Yeah, because you have muck and next is there's really It's really hard for you to engage with the energy right it can take you out I can if you have triggers if you have triggers you're gone. It's over compromise. You're compromised immediately Something happens you get triggered and you're not even in control you're behaving Yeah, you're good It's only coming out of me because you've practiced it so much and you're here with me sharing the feeling And I think we're able to co-create some cool Takes on on this. Yeah It's also good for the science geeks that Humans together are an energy equation and you have to be cleared of the muck within yourself to be able to Engage with the energy equation Yes, I like that. It's really good. Yes Maybe you can think of a you could maybe even think of a If a person is a You can think of a variable the person is a variable in the equation and if the variable has a Lot of other complicated arithmetic around it. It's gonna be really hard to engage with the Hmm energy of the of the group, but if your variable is very clean the arithmetic is very clean It's easier to Engage with the yes equation Yes, you can kind of see people carrying a lot of arithmetic around their variable and Versus being completely clear and clean right and then what you get to do is Live an epic life because you're gonna be putting on and taking off a lot of costumes and that's fun. Oh While knowing that they're costumes and that's why we're here And we're here to come play in that way. Yeah, those those costumes are there's some of the most fun ways to play and Another I think Easy way to for people to remember is that when when you when you when you when you talk to someone that we're such Mirroring creatures that we like to mirror and so if you have a big wardrobe of costumes You can more easily mirror people and build rapport and emotional connection with them Yes, if we have just a small little closet that only has one or two costumes There's so many costume possibilities and it's harder for us to connect to people There's something exciting about becoming decorated Becoming a decorated king or queen of yourself integrating and exchanging in relationship with people and just Holding all the energies and then you become a decorated piece of life a nuanced piece of life and You have a repertoire and you become a rainbow Okay, we are these we are these avatars We come through spirit into this world to play to learn in the school of life and When we Do things like Decorate our avatar with more a Learning learning we've learned how to put on different costumes We've learned certain accolades that we can apply in our life and it becomes easier for us to engage with other Spirits that are in their costumes no matter what costume they're wearing no matter what accolades they have if we've at least had training Open Honest communication with ourselves about who we are which costumes we've worn which accolades we've gotten which ones we haven't To me the ultimate inspiration of a human is Someone who's deck in this changes for other people, right? But for me I Get so inspired by people who are really deck decorated and have also done that that inner healing work. So they're like very pure open humble Don't think much of themselves, but then they're super decorated So then I love that Yeah, so I think of like sad guru, but everyone has their own like people that speak to them in this way And even mama nuijuan is another great example. Yeah, he's a king and he's like and rooted in nature. Yeah, yeah So so so I love that so can you become so one of the ultimate challenges as you become more and more? decorated With costumes avatars Accolades all these different things. Can you maintain a degree of humility and Love and compassion selflessness service Can you because if you do those two things together are such a beautiful expression The flowering of a human Yes, it's been so many good little bits of wisdom from this ory This has been really good for the synthesis Let's make this popular heard that everyone make it popular give some good action items And how to do some orishapura. Yes, sir How do you feel I Feel like I could still dive deep into all those feelings at the beginning but I also am very Moved to To make moves Interesting No, that's that balance again. Yeah, you mentioned. Yeah We're not stuck in either of the player. Yeah, isn't it interesting how after you brought some Emote some juicy emotion into the field and we felt that how we were able to riff afterward You're not stuck in either of those polarities you live in the interval You live in the interval you can ebb to a polarity Experience deeply ebb to the other polarity experience deeply Yeah, you can move yourself between all of the costumes between any of the energy dynamics any accolades that anyone If you can that's mastery. Yes, not just one costume. I've mastered this one costume. Yes Exactly and it's inspiring to see for people to see that that that's real Yeah, it's inspiring when we see examples of that Humble examples of that. Yeah. Yes. Yeah Damn and that acts as a Big role model for a lot of kids and adults Yeah, I felt that Feel good. Feel really good Feel alive Shall we? Shall we rap? Do we have other thoughts that we want to share? Um become a life process That we are You know, we have a lot of constipated lives happening Become a life process Constipated and muck mucky not clear But to clear that There's the muck in the system in the nervous system and then there's the muck in the web Of cords. Yeah, that's great. That's too And by clearing the muck within ourselves, we slowly help clear the muck and other cords Oh, yeah in our world Chords that aren't serving you can't stick around once you start clearing your system out Because then you start feeling the density of them So And you have to become Discerning in your life. Yeah Which cords Are Little too mucky Yeah, and which ones are clear and empowering And that you can provide power to yeah Those were good, um Analogies throughout also just action items throughout just That's a great way to move forward. Just make a Make a short list of a couple people that you want to try holding space with And Go and hold space with them and explore conversations of knowing yourself them knowing themselves Well, I that's I love that and I have a group on facebook that i'm just starting off called group explorations Yeah, and so Sounds good We'll put the group explorations link Also in the bio for those that want to check it out and That can be something that people eventually Do themselves to they can get really good at tapping into this clearing their own muck helping other people clear muck And then be able to Do group explorations That's when it gets epic. That's when it gets so epic when we share the healing and growth process With other humans there's nothing richer Super rich And we evolved to be able to dive deeply into these and in many ways they've been obfuscated Lost and obfuscated. So let's remember to bring these back forth All right good Oh my gosh Future builder Future builder Yeah, yeah Thanks everyone