 So here's a, here's a little question to ponder. Aristotle says, you know, rejects the idea that form is independent of the particular objects, right? They don't, they're not separately existing from the particular objects. If you want to know the form, you have to look at the object. All right, this is an interesting consequence. Form and matter are inseparable. There's no such thing as matter without form. And there's no such thing as form without matter. You can't have a universal of a particular thing without the particular things. And similarly, you can't have matter without some kind of essence to it. So he rejects what's sometimes called prime matter. Prime matter is just stuff without, without form. Okay, so form and matter are inseparable. What exists is substance and a substance is a composite of form and matter. So here's a question. Are, are form and matter the same thing? Are they identical to each other?