 I've just been listening to the 19 hours news where journalists asked the president as he was coming back from Europe on two issues. One about the storming of former president Ed Galungu's house by a battalion of police officers. And the answer that the president gave is extremely disappointing. I am extremely disappointed because we expect the president to be above board. We don't expect the president to cross over important issues. When the journalists asked about the storming of the former president's house by the police, he said, and I quote, there is nothing wrong when any person reports somebody to the police. The police have the right to go to that person's house. I totally agree with him. I totally agree with him that there's nobody who is above the law. But does it need a battalion of police officers? And the president goes to say, I was not involved. I don't know anything. That is a pure police operation. Now, Mr. President, for once, learning to tell the truth, I have been in government myself at very senior ministries. I was minister of foreign affairs. I was minister of labor and I was minister of information and broadcasting. There is no way, countrymen and women, no way that police can plan a raid or indeed an operation at the former president's house without the sitting president knowing. Then the sitting president is not in charge. Then all security wings have stopped functioning. The president, mind you, is the commander in chief of all armed forces, including the police. And from my knowledge, every morning, first thing in the morning, the director general of the intelligence, the OP, the so-called OP, is the first person that interacts with the president at his office. And the president just gets to the office. The first person who the president interacts with is the director general of the intelligence, popularly known as the office of the president, the OP. The OP will detail the president about what happened the previous day and what is going to happen during the day. In terms of all operations and issue concerning the former head of state is a priority. If the OP director general did not inform the president, he should be fired. But I know for sure that the director general did inform the police, did inform the president. I know for sure because if he didn't do that, it's one reason for him to be fired. Now the question is, what happened that day? Is it normal, people of Sanford? Some of you are saying yes, it is normal because it also happened to H.H. When he was opposition leader, the police stormed his house at night, a battalion of police officers. And if you remember very well, if you remember very well what president H.H. said and complained, was that I'm not a criminal. They should have just sent a call out if they wanted me. And we could have complied to go to the police for questioning. What has changed today? My dear brother president, what has changed today? That your government can send a battalion of police officers to go and look for Iranics, a counter, and then Alex's vehicle at the residence of the former head of state. Immunity assigned. Immunity assigned that the former president enjoys. Really, if for instance there was a way that Tshishin Bakambudi has got two or three alleged stolen vehicles at his house. What we see is, tomorrow we will see that there are five of us, there are three of us. We will see that there are five of us, there are three of us, there are three of us, or whatever they are looking for, or whatever things they have come to look for. To get a battalion of police officers to go to the former head of state's house, even attempting using a grinder to catch the gate to gain access. And the president says there is nothing wrong with it, police have the right. No, Mr. President, police don't have the right to go a battalion and cause commotion on an issue that they can easily summon the former head of state or indeed the spouse. Mrs. Lungu, there is this allegation that these vehicles which do not belong to you are in your possession. Can we have those vehicles brought to the police station and then you bring the papers and show proof whether these are your vehicles or indeed they were stolen? I don't think Mrs. or Dr. Edgar Chabalungu would refuse to comply. But to go and send a battalion of police, hammered vehicles, a grinder to go and catch the gate of the former head of state, but the most disappointing aspect is that the president can come and say it is a pure police operation which has nothing to do. If I were president, the OP comes to tell me there will be this operation at the former president's house. Mr. Harahinde Ichilema will tell them you can't do that. Have respect for the former head of state. Why can't you send him a call out or indeed just send two plain police officers to go and inquire into these allegations. But for the president to allow the police with full knowledge and I'm saying full knowledge because I've been in government. I have been there before when president Sata was getting briefs from the OP and I am speaking from experience. People must not be cheated. People must not be lied to. People must not be deceived that the president doesn't know what even when they are coming to arrest Tshishin Bakambudi, countrymen and women, the president is fully briefed. So when you see police officers at Tshishin Bakambudi's house, the president has already been briefed that at 10 o'clock there will be this operation at Kambudi's house. So for the president to want to say he doesn't know anything, it leaves much to be desired. And Mr. President with due respect stopped this. But president Naimue Mukababa ex-president, surely would you want Bama Tinta to be treated in that manner? A battalion of police officers to be sent to your residence, the community house, after you leave office to come and search for one or two things. Just because there is a report. How about HH? It's not correct. By HH Naimue Mukababa, praise singers who will forever be there. But I can tell you, my brother, these praise singers are the first ones to jump ship. An example is this Tabukawana. Tabukawana, we can show you videos. We have videos here of how we used to praise President Galunga and the PF. Going around all radio stations. The last one I was listening today about Tabukawana, I was even saying, you can indeed think that PF is losing. We are going to win and we shall win big. We have been winning you. And what makes you think that this time you're going to win? Tabukawana. Today look at Tabukawana. When he's speaking about you, you'd think he has never been in PF. And people like Tabukawana, I'll tell you something for nothing. They don't want to be in the opposition. Tabukawana was in MMD. When MMD lost, he jumped to PF. Started defending PF. Attacking UPND. Today PF has lost power. He's in UPND. Praising you, attacking PF. Don't believe in such people. They'll forever belong to the governments that will come because that's how they are. That's their nature. Even you, the same thing he's saying about PF and President Galunga. He'll come and say it against you. I swear. So be careful with praising everybody. That's how they survive. So when you hear praising and saying, when people are saying this is not correct, please, learn from those who are genuinely giving you advice. I think you all the country and apology, Mr. President, to say that that's purely police. Was I there? Somebody went to report. Yes, we are not refusing that. There's a complainant, obviously. But should police conduct themselves the way they conduct themselves that day? Should police go to an extent of wanting to cut the gate using grinding? We are not doing that. I'm not saying that we are not doing that. One day, one day you'll be from a able state. Would you want to be treated the way President Galunga is being treated? Obviously, the answer is no. Now, if you don't want to be treated like that, the Bible says, do unto others what you want others to do unto you. That is wisdom. That is wisdom. And people will respect you more. And please, when you are talking to the people of Zambia, don't think that people don't think. Or don't take it that people don't think. I've been to Zambia for years, I've been to a church. To the U.P.N.D. That's why I've been there for years. But people don't think that people don't think that they're going to be treated the way they conduct themselves. And they keep it inside. And I don't think that people are going to be treated that way. I can tell you, even if President Galunga didn't say anything about it, he would say, no, no, he didn't. But what came out of the general elections was something different. I am giving you this advice, my brother. In any case, stop persecuting your predecessor. Stop persecuting what happened that day with the police is pure persecution of the former head of state, nothing else. There is no explanation to that. There is no explanation. Look at the Americans. Trump has been charged and taken to court. Did you see a battalion of police officers being sent to Trump's house to go and arrest him, to take him to court to go and answer to the charges that he is answering in court? Why can't we learn? This is a civilized denation. This is a civilized era. Let's stop this archaic, old fashioned way of conducting politics. It's not building anybody. It's only destroying our country and exposing us to ridicule. Exposing us to ridicule. And don't think because the people of Zambia quite a few of us can speak like this, that they are happy. The president stopped misleading the people of Zambia that you didn't know. It was purely a police operation. You had the power to stop it. You had the power to advise your minister of affairs. Immediately you got the briefing from the OP. You should have lifted and said, If you are Sanjevo, you are not allowed to go to the police. If you are a police officer, you are not allowed to go to the police. But you allowed it. I am speaking from experience. There is no way, there is no way, if you are president, you are going to break down. If you can say that you are not aware, that the police were going to act the way they acted. Because those police officers were at President Edgar Nungu's house as early as 5 o'clock. And I know that if there is such an operation, it will be a briefed previous day. Previous day you were briefed to say there was going to be this operation. In future stop it. Don't allow that. You will be more respected, Mr. President. Because mind you, political power is very temperate. You will be former president. And in that office, I love the people who feel that they are in power. But when you lose power, have you seen some people who are working with President Edgar Nungu? Associating with him today. Some of them have run away from him. Did you see people who are working with the former president to be abandoned? People ran away from him. They are very few like Jerry. What is his name? The one who was his aid for press. They are very few like Jerry. Who remain with President Banda until his death. Even in his death, he speaks good about President Lopia Banda. They are very few. Very few. Most of them, Nguamu Ndiyongi, they will come, milk you, make money, do deals, using your name and wrongly advise you when you are out of that office. They will run away from you and start giving information against you. Secondly, this issue of with growing police, again Mr. President, why my brother? Why? Even going to an extent of telling lies that they are 15 officers instead of 3. Yes, the law provides that a former president who will have 3 police officers attached to his residence. But you know as much as I know that the 7, because there are 7 police officers and not 13, the 7 police officers who are attached to President Edgar Nungu's residence, former President Edgar Nungu, there is a history to that. And again, there is no way, there is no way the police can add extra police officers to President Edgar Nungu's house without you being taught as sitting president. Then the system has collapsed. When there was a breaking at President Edgar Nungu's house, the TV was stolen. There was communication from government that we are going to give extra police officers. We are going to be for extra police officers at the residence of the former president to enhance his security. There was also an issue of the location where President Edgar Nungu's house is allocated, that it was not a very safe place. It was a risky place in terms of criminality. And that is why there was a decision to increase the police officers from 3 to 7 with your full knowledge, Mr. President. With your full knowledge, like I've said, there is no way anything that is happening to the former president, anything, security, etc., etc., you are supposed to be informed and you give a go ahead. Even when they were increasing the number, but today you are saying, you know that the law provides for only 3 police officers. You are pretending as if you don't know that there were these compelling circumstances that made to increase the number from 3 to 7. I want to ask you, Mr. President, where did you get the number 13? Please, let us not say such things to arouse the emotions of the Zambian people. The increase of the security officers from 3 to 7 was with your full knowledge. So for you at the airport today to be saying it's only entitled to 3, so there is an abuse of the law, abuse of the constitution. Come on, my brother. I look what is not going to happen to you. Let us keep our integrity and tell the truth. Immediately, Mr. President, I want to talk to you. I want to talk to you. I want to talk to you. I want to talk to you, Mr. President. I want to plead with you people who advise us to the president to tell the president the truth. Don't be silly. And when you feel the president has gone off track, it is only reasonable to whisper to him, like Mr. President, our Palafi La Machilanda, the correct situation is this. How can the president to say it was an abuse of the constitution? It was the abuse by having more than 3 police officers. When Secretary to the Cabinet is the supervising authority of the office of the former president. And whatever happens, the Secretary to the Cabinet informs the president. And when the police are making that change, that is why you have a deputy inspector of police based at State House. He will inform you there is this need to beef up police officers at the former president. Even when they wrote this message for withdrawal of all these officers, where now you can even have, you know, namlech state in twitch geography, you always differ in the way you give your statements. Your Minister of Home Affairs said, no, the police President Galungu still have his security, not but has been removed. Then the spokesperson of the police says, no, those who have been removed have been redeployed to other areas. The message is very clear. Let me read the message that was sent. The message said, originator BU HQ 3S 221 of 1005 2023, XX being informed that the command as directed with the draw of all officers. Thank you men and women. Of all officers attached to the residence of Mr. Eddie Gacha Galungu, former president of the Republic of Zambia with immediate effect. This statement does not talk about redeploying those others and replacing them with others. And the number is clear here, seven officers. Number one, Mr. Mondokan, assistant superintendent. Number two, Mr. Piri James, assistant superintendent. Number three, Uman Constable, Kafula Agnes, Inspector Lupaula Adson, Inspector Muyandi Dala, Inspector Kasebadanio and Sergeant Kashmoto, seven officers. But today the President was telling us at the airport, they are 13. This is an abuse of the law, it's an abuse of the Constitution. Insolni ebuntu, insolni ebuntu. The message is very clear, withdraw all officers with immediate effect. And by the way, if the spokesperson of the police is saying, no those were withdrawn and others would be taken there, it is illegal. You see, you cannot take any police officers to the house of the former president. It must be consulted. When PA was giving Mr. Lungu, I mean President Dupia Bandar, they had to ask him, which police officers are you comfortable with? Because they are these issues of assassinations, they are these issues of spying, they are these issues of not being comfortable with certain officers. Probably you may give the president an officer who he may have had a problem with. So they asked, he has a choice, to recommend that I would rather wait with this one, this one and this one. This is what happens. And Secretary of the Cabinet knows this, because he was Deputy Secretary of the Cabinet and the PF. And he is a very seasoned civil servant. You cannot just go and unilaterally remove people and take other people. The truth of the matter is that there was just an attempt to remove all the security officers. Because when there was that problem at President, former President Dupia Lungu's house, these officers were very professional. They did not allow access until they were told to do so by the former president.