 Microsoft has discussed buying code giant GitHub. That's a crazy headline, kind of. So, I'm going to remain very skeptical, and I know there's a lot of people that have already, and I've participated a bit in this, the snarky jokes, the fun humor they're going to come with it, are we going to get 365, are we going to get a subscription service, how is it all going to work, will it work, or will Microsoft actually leave this thing alone and let it be what it is, which is a great repository of open source code. That being said, there's a couple of things about GitHub that I want to make sure are cleared up first. First, GitHub is not an open source product. GitHub is a code repository with lots of open source products on it. So, that's something that is important because when you make comparisons to other Microsoft acquisitions, or something that you're afraid they're going to close source, it already is closed source. So, this is kind of just a company that hosts code acquisition, if this occurs, if this rumors true, which wouldn't surprise me too much if it was, and let me explain a little bit why. So, over here in episode 256 of the Sunday morning Linux review podcast that I co-hosted with a few of my close good friends, we have Martin Woodward and Edward Thompson and talking about how Microsoft gets get. And it was kind of a fun play on words, it was a great interview, and I want to start with who these two folks are. Now, one of the things we did when we went to Microsoft and did the interviews, we took a lot of flack at the Sunday morning Linux review and got some hate mail right away because they started calling us the Sunday Microsoft review, the Sunday morning Microsoft review, blah, blah, blah. And like I said, I think as technicians, we love snarky humor and we don't mind. We didn't mind the criticism when we get it. We were there, we went and did the Microsoft thing. Now, when we did these interviews, one of the things we tried a lot to do differently was not talk about the product or maybe just what these people do at Microsoft. We want to know how much they were passionate about open source. Tell me a story of what got you involved in this. And some people had really good answers, some people had less interesting answers. That being said, that kind of gauges and sets the mood and the way we think about things of how passionate they are about software and open source. And these guys are passionate about software and open source. You look here at Edward Thompson, he was a senior software engineer at GitHub. So he came from GitHub and now works at Microsoft and Martin Woodward, long time Microsoft guy, but also big open source advocate as well. Both of these guys are passionate about open source and they're very passionate software developers in general. Their passion came through. This podcast was a lot of fun to do with them. It was interesting and we talk about, you know, all the generalities of how things changed at Microsoft to even make this happen to them building it into their workflow. And Microsoft is heavily invested, if you didn't know, in the GitHub workflow. So whether you like them or not, it's you can't deny the fact that they have a massive amount of repositories and they've done a lot to give back to the code, including the .NET work, .NET frameworks and things like that that have been put up on GitHub. So there are massive things that we kind of were shocked ourselves that Microsoft is open source. That being said, let's talk about a couple other Microsoft acquisitions and what happened to them. And the reason I don't want to use, well, LinkedIn as an example, is LinkedIn. I don't know that Microsoft's really done much with it. LinkedIn was, in my opinion, not that great of a platform to begin with. Microsoft's acquisition of LinkedIn was undoubtedly just to have better integration with our Dynamics product. And from what we've seen them do with it, it's all kinds of integration, help find people and things like that. The other side of LinkedIn is, well, I don't think it's all that great. Mostly I get spam more than anything else on LinkedIn and most people I know kind of feel the same way. It's a place for recruiters to do that. So Microsoft's acquisition of them, not that interesting. Then people like to point out Skype acquisition. Well, Skype acquisition, once again, they took a decentralized product, centralized it and a lot of people say that the Skype has suffered from it. I kind of agree. I've not used Skype in a while but I see a lot of people grumbling that it isn't like it used to be, which for years when I did use it, it was a really top-notch platform. So Microsoft decentralized it. You go back all the way to GitHub, they're not a decentralized open source product anyway. So it's already a centralized server. It's the question of whether or not Microsoft should be the owner or steward of this GitHub versus some other company. Now, Microsoft has done things like acquired Miguel Diacasa's company, Xamarin. And if you're not familiar with who Miguel is, amazing open source developer in the Linux community, founder of a lot of different things. The bigger things are gonna be the Mono project and the GNOME project, which I'm actually running GNOME right now with PopOS. So thank you very much for your contribution here, Mr. Miguel, but he works for Microsoft now. And this is a person who is absolutely passionate about open source. And this is where you can have some fundamental philosophy of, do we just hate on Microsoft because they have closed source or do we celebrate people like Miguel, Martin Woodward, and Amber Thompson for working there and being advocates of open source. And we are seeing a change in the company because they're a hard company to try to be on the outside going up against. Are they bringing the cancer, as Steve Vollmer called it, to the inside of the company and generally reshaping it? I'm a very optimistic person overall. I'm a skeptic when it comes to Microsoft and I'm not gonna just openly hate on it because of everything they did in the past. And I don't give companies the agency to see that they as exist as some force for evil, I instead look at companies are a amalgamation of the people that work there. So if they acquire GitHub and they have more open source people pushing them towards that way, would that not make them better? This is where we can all be skeptical on this. Now, of course, if you wanna jump into this darkness, I will leave you to this link here. And this is the entirety of the usual in our programming Microsoft discussion about GitHub. I've been reading through here and there's people on both sides of the camp on some of the details about this. I don't know, like I said, which way this is gonna go. I don't know if it's gonna be overall good or bad. I will cautiously wait. I don't think we should necessarily all leave GitHub which some people are calling for. The other thing is there's some discussion here. Well, not this is a protection move. Would you want Oracle to buy them? Would you want Amazon to buy them? Do you think Google should buy them? The reality is if the company's up for sale and one of these larger companies can acquisition of them, we kinda have to pick which company should they're, well, we don't have to pick it all. We can just have opinions and argue about this and make our decision by not hosting our projects on there if we think they're not the right company. Granted, if you had to make choices, maybe Microsoft's a better choice than Amazon. Way better choice than Oracle because I'm not a fan of Oracle for a multitude of reasons and I won't get into you now. So I don't think we should get the pitch works out now. Cautious skepticism I think is always important. We can hopefully this will all turn out for the better. Maybe GitHub will not sell them and they'll just get a new CEO and everything will be happy and we can keep posting projects on there. That being said, GitHub is not completely open source so there's that to take into account. So if you're an open source developer you're just using GitHub because it's the place where everyone is developing things. Do you switch because it's not completely open source to something that is more open source based? I don't know, these are all kinds of philosophical decisions what we'll still be discussing at a later date. But Microsoft is looking at buying them. I find it very interesting. I find it very interesting based on our interview we did with these two gentlemen here. So I'm gonna leave you the link to all these things so you can go and read about this and then you can join in the Reddit and have your snarky comments where I will be participating probably in snarky comments as well. So we're technician people and I just sometimes that's kind of funny. Is it gonna be get 365? Will we have a subscription? Will I be able to delay my pull requests or will they have to wait for an update? Will I have to reboot each time? I don't know. Will they windowsize it? Those seems pretty unlikely. Although I like the vision of Clippy helping me with code on GitHub. I don't know. That sounds funny to me. I don't know. Will does poke jokes at them for a little while. But the big picture stuff is I don't know that this is going to be the end of GitHub or that it should be the end of it. So Microsoft is changing this. It's always a wait and see. I won't make some assumptions that they're automatically an evil company that are gonna destroy all things they touch because there has been contributions back to the open source community that are positive. And one of the things actually covered in this particular podcast is zero days that these gentlemen helped quash that were found in some of the file systems. So that being said, that is a positive contribution. Anytime they quash bugs, especially a zero day bug and some of the stories in here, those are good things. So there are positives that come out of the overall of this. So I'm always trying to look for more positives and negatives. It's never a perfect world. It's never the way we want it. But we can all at least do our little part in contributing and making it better. Thanks for watching. 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