 temporary chair that Carly is willing to do. So I'm going to try to get this on to the reorganization of the board. And so I would take, and I will skip the first part of the call to order with the reception of guests, agenda revisions of public comment, let the chair go there. I would also say at this time that you see the Lucy's not here tonight and Mia needs to get to the sports banquet. So after we do the chair, I would ask for a humble reorganization to let Mia give her student report and then let her go on to the sports banquet. So are there nominations for chair for U32? I'll move Carly Bradley as the chair. Second. Are there any other nominations? Carly, you're going to accept that. I will. I just want everyone to know that I do plan on moving out of East Montpelier this summer, pending the sale of my home. So if that does bear out, I'll have to step down. Sometimes I have to do a lot, I expect. Thank you. Anyone have any issues with that? Okay. Any other nominations? All those in favor of Carly Bradley, be the chair of the U32 board and signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed abstentions? Thank you very much for your service, Carly. Okay, well thank you everybody. So welcome to our guests. I'm going to move quickly to our student report. I'm going to start with the sports. So winter sports is just wrapping up right now. And girls and boys in Oregon both are D2 state champs. And the boys and girls basketball both made it to the quarterfinals but got out there. And Poppy was out in the first round too. And then the eighth grade plays just happened too. And we have a lot of convenient energy right now around the 32th. The cafeteria just shifted away from singing these classics. And we have salads now. And half-worth can is presented right before February break. And then just last week around 90 students walked out of D32 all the way to the state house and went to a little rally thing that was down there because it was fun. That's the biggest thing that I've ever seen. You picked the right day to walk downtown. Yeah. And it's actually probably a little more than 100 kids. Yeah. And it's all said and done. Yeah. Single file of course. Right on the shoulder. I don't know what's not a school sponsored event, right? You guys didn't get the email. Mia? Yeah. There was, I think, general pleasure and, I think, positive feeling about that action, the climate change action to walk out. But some of the veterans of the Vietnam era mentioned the practice of teachings that were common back then where basically the regular routine would be broken in order to have a kind of special teaching event in which someone from the outside would come in and would maybe make a presentation about climate change related topics. So I just mentioned that in case that's something you want to take to the green team or whoever's organizing so that you don't, I mean, it makes it easier on your shoes. And maybe, you know, also easier to incorporate it into the framework of the school too. We actually just, you may not know, but one of our green team members is preparing a program to be able to present to kids about climate change and all of that. So that's already in the works for, I think it's after April vacation is when that student's going to be doing that. So we do have some other things that are happening as a result. That's great. Yeah. Okay. Any other questions for Mia? Thank you very much. Thanks for joining us. So backing up to the beginning, I forgot to welcome Charles Merman to the board. Do you prefer Charles Charlie? He is fine. I usually don't make sure I don't. Great. Well, welcome to the board. And then back to our guests. Thank you very much for being here. Are people here for a specific topic or comment? I was just here to represent the math department in the public comment period, when that is. Okay. So anybody else? Is this the math department? Now I'm seeing a connection here. Okay. So we'll move to agenda revisions. Does anybody have any? And we're on a tight timeline tonight. We've got about 45 minutes left. Okay. So we'll go to public comments. Thank you for listening. My name is Kit Walker for those of you that don't know me. I teach algebra two and AP calculus at U32. I'm here representing the unit U32 math department. Here to weigh in on a post cut to the math white table funding. I understand the pressures of building a budget and especially in times of declining enrollment. But we want you to hear the impact of such a cut from your frontline people, the people that are on the ground trying to do what you asked us to do, which is to move our kids up and over that hurdle of the standards we've set. And we're making good progress. But the math white table is a key part of that effort. Key. It is used every day, all day long. It's set, staffed by a certified math teacher who doesn't get paid like a teacher. They get paid like a para. I actually, I don't know if you know this, but I had that role when I first came to U32. Wonderful job. The best. You just do math all day long. I know it doesn't sound good to everybody, but to some of us it does. So it handles questions from all levels, all courses. Consistency in that role we believe is incredibly important. The communication that we have through that one person who is constantly fielding all kinds of different issues for different students. I know I can walk in there and say, this is the issue on this quiz for my classes. If my students come in, would you please? And I do it in a split second when I'm heading off to class or I'm coming in from a TA meeting or whatever it is. This consistency in the communication is just so important for the success of our kids. That's what we're talking about. We're not talking about an individual person in that role. We're talking about the program that's been here ever since I've been here, which is 20 years. Proficiency-based learning standards have raised the standards for our students. It incorporates the necessity for extra practice, extra time on task, and reassessments for some students on some topics. But the beauty of it is, is those students can come to Math White Table and they can't find us because we're teaching somewhere else, and they can sit and they can work on that particular issue that they need. It fits perfectly together. Algebra 2 students are in mixed ability levels, and they have been for the last several years, but unlike Geometry and Algebra 1, they have no Math Lab support. So they come through mixed level abilities through Algebra 1 and they need extra support, they're in a Math Lab. They go to Geometry, if they need extra support, they go to a Math Lab. They get to Algebra 2, the support ends. So they're still in mixed level ability classes, you know, 20-ish around some larger, some a little smaller, but they do not have that Math Lab support. So there again, if you look at the numbers for the Math White Table, it's heavily Algebra 2. The other key thing about Algebra 2 is that's the graduation standard level, and so it's starting to hit them that to be able to graduate and meet these standards, even though we've been talking about it since the beginning of the year, it's suddenly starting to become real. So the numbers at Math White Table for Algebra 2 are high. We want to support our kids as best we can. It's not about a specific person in that role, but we really believe strongly, and I don't know if you can tell, I'm pretty passionate about this, that having a dedicated person playing that key role is important. I'm not expected to know what's happening in all the other departments in the building or all the other needs, and I know they're heavy. I just wanted you to hear directly from us, and the rest of the Math Department is here, and you can hear from them as well. Thank you for listening. Thank you. Did anyone else want to speak to that or something else? I think it did a very nice job expressing our needs. But also, we would like to say that, you know, we get that there's things going on with the budget and whatnot, and that just think it's really important to understand that we're here about the kids and not about anything else. We're looking to be here just for the support of our students because we want them to be proficient. I'd just like to say on behalf of a lot of kids that I know, both family, friends, and just general peers, that Math White Table is really, really important to kids, and it really helps them to be able to, you know, not just for a lot of people, it's just making it by and their classes. It's making proficiencies, but I know a lot of people also utilize it to really work on, you know, getting beyond that point and really learning how to excel just because there's extra support for them. I also find that people talking about consistency and they're being a dedicated person, I also think that students also find that to be very important and useful because it takes time to adjust to a teaching style, and one thing is that kids, when they go from teacher to teacher, you know, and it can change by semester, that sometimes kids struggle with that, but if there is one particular person at White Table who is there consistently, you know, currently it's been like for all of their years in high school that they really know how that works and they're able to adjust to that teaching style and it stays consistent, and so that helps them to understand a lot more than if they're always constantly adjusting, and so I do think that the consistency like really does help kids, and I just want people to know that from conversations that I had with a lot of students and personal experiences myself, that it is very important. Thank you. Anyone else? Well, we really appreciate you coming and we hear you loud and clear. I'm not sure that we'll have time to deliberate about this tonight, but the message is received and of course math is near and dear to our hearts as well and we really appreciate everyone's efforts, students and teachers. Thank you. You would like us to come back next time you have a meeting to specifically present anything, any data or other information that we have. We know we don't have time for today so we didn't prepare it, but we wouldn't have to come back. Why don't you give us a chance to talk about that when we're planning future agendas on such a tight timeline tonight. No problem. Thank you. Okay. We'll go back to ward reorganization, so we'll just move through these positions with a little bit of explanation. 2.2 is elective vice chair. That's a role I've had for a little while. There's not too much to it unless the chair is not available then the vice chair is expected to step in or the meeting is the main. Is there any nominations? I would nominate Scott. Your second. Is it George? Okay. Are you willing to accept? Sure. Thank you. Any other nominations? All right. To all those in favor of Scott Thompson as vice chair. Say aye. Aye. Opposed or abstention? Okay. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. And clerk, Carl, I believe you've been the clerk. I have been, yes. Can you describe what's involved? It doesn't tend to be a whole lot. If we don't have somebody taking notes, that would fall on the clerk. Right. Coming out of executive session, I need to make sure to convey what this is all about. Executive session. Okay. Folks who write it up. Okay. And there's usually a little bit of signage sometimes. Yeah. Are there any nominations for the position of clerk? I nominate Carl. Second. Second Karen, would you accept the appointment? Yeah, I would. Any other nominations? All those in favor of Carl would key as the clerk. Say aye. Aye. Opposed or abstention? Carl it is. Thank you, Carl. 2.4, establish the time and day of regular monthly meetings. So for the past couple of years, even though we do sometimes use the third Wednesday, this motion is about the first Wednesday. It doesn't mean you can't have a third Wednesday, but this is kind of the minimum and sets it from there. And we did that starting about at least I think it's been 60 years that I've been on. I remember for a couple of years, I mean this is my seventh year here where we had both. It's just we've been both based on the amount of work. So first Wednesday of the month, 6 p.m. right here. Any... That's the time of day. So moved. Carl, we'll move that in a second. I'll second this. Thank you. Princess or something. All those in favor say aye. Any opposed or abstained? Okay, so that passes. Establish the newspaper and locations for official postings. So if I can give you some recommendation on this as well. We use the Times Argus. We'd like to stay with that. We already have some official postings for this year in the Times Argus. So it would be great to stay there. We'll be glad to put it anywhere electronically. It's two physical locations. We do it at all the elementary schools but if you just said the central office in here we do get it out to all the elementary schools and to the others. You can have as many as you want. I just always recommend to boards that you do the two that are required by statute. Please tell us where else you'd like it. We'll ensure that it gets there. Any... Anyone care to make a motion about that? I'll second. It should be the Times Argus, elementary schools and central office. Central office and U32. And the central office where we get it to the elementary schools. I would also suggest that it be posted to the town court office too for those who may not aren't school-centric. We can definitely get it there. So is that a friendly amendment? Yeah, absolutely. That is friendly, isn't it? Did someone second? I did. Further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Okay, so that passes. Now we're up to 2.6. Elect a representative and an alternate to the WCSU Executive Committee. This is a role I have served for a little while since Conrad passed, I think. What's involved here is an additional monthly meeting usually representing U32 on the Executive Committee which is a subcommittee of the SU Board with one representative from each school. We generally plan the next full board meeting and then we'll have responsibilities for developing the SU budget. Sort of shepherding any goals that have been set and progress on whatever the priorities are for the full board and what else am I leaving out? It's really moved to where so much has moved to the SU Board because the Executive came about 3-4 years ago when previously the Executive Committee under the WCSU bylaws only has two requirements of the full board which is the budget and the iron Executive Committee. Those bylaws have to change but the Executive Committee has moved it back the other way to go to the SU Board. I think that's all the official do as I sort of described and I'll say that I am interested in continuing to serve in this until I step down and partially because I have chaired the School Quality Committee which is responsible for working on the process of the full board which is how do we use our student learning outcomes and our monitoring of those and planning to improve those to advance education so that's something that's very important and I'd really like to see that through at least in the next step but I think there's under interest. So I'll nominate Cary for Executive Committee and I'll second. Are there any other nominations? So all those in favor say hi. And then we'll need an alternate times I can't make it. Has that been Adrian? It was Adrian in the past. Okay so we need someone to do that it would just be a matter of me letting that person know if you need to do it. And what are the times of that? That's well that's We have been flowed from the third Wednesday to the fourth Wednesday depending if there's an SU meeting we try to have it on the fourth when there isn't an SU meeting, when there is we like to have it the week before to plan the SU meeting agendas and plan where we're going even though that's laid out a little up front. It's at 6 p.m. Anywhere from an hour to two hours. Are you interested Jewish? I can't sign up for something else. I think my wife is going to end up being on the elementary school board and it's going to stretch us real thin. Wow. Power couple. One of her oppositions seems to be pretty fancy. John are you interested? I nominate you if you're interested. Sure I do it. Okay. So we have nominations are second for Jonathan? Second. Are there any other nominations or interests? I'm happy with Jonathan. Okay. All those in favor of Jonathan serving as the alternate say aye. Aye. Thank you. I'll look to hear from you. All right. Okay. I need 2.7 elect three voting members to the supervisor union board. So supervisor union board is all of the members of the six local boards all 32 of us. But per our bylaws only three 32 members will actually have a vote when there are voting issues. So I believe is one of those by default. You just did two of them right now. Okay. So you need a third person ideally that's a person that's committed to attending all of the two rising union board meetings of which there are five or six to four or six per year. Is anyone interested? I've been the other voting member and I'm happy to continue. Okay. All right. Any discussion? All those in favor of Carl as the third voting members say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Thank you. So now we're going to move on to 2.8. We're going to elect representatives and alternates to each of the following and I suggest something that we've been doing other boards. Okay. Not knowing where things are and most of these committees have are a bit of a stasis right now. All your fellow boards have been just like electing a representative and not an alternate to each. And I do not know why I didn't see this but labor management shouldn't be on there that's not one that we've had for two or three years. So that should have been taken off I think it's just reading old templates of old agendas to everybody comfortable with that then we'll go through the first four and just single representative and I would recommend that you just talk about it and make a slate and go forward. Okay. People are comfortable with that we'll do that. All right so negotiations Carl you've been involved in negotiations. Same thing about it. You just want to describe it really quickly. Okay. The bulk of that role has been taking part in negotiations. Which is a real time demand but is also a very interesting process and very rewarding. So this is negotiations of that's for teachers and support staff. And right and support staff and we traditionally we have been for the last eight and nine years we've been using the interest based bargaining technique which is a cool process to meet teachers and we've been really happy with the results. Okay. So is there a motion to not make a comment? Okay. Scott a second? Any other interest or discussion? Oh I guess we were going to do this we'll go ahead and finish this one off. All those in favor of Carl for negotiations say aye. Opposed abstention. Okay thanks Carl. Transportation. We're in the second year of a five year contract this year to be able to roll for the next three years. We haven't had a need for it but we always have had that committee standing in terms of transportation so we're going to be able to do that. Okay. I think George was on it. I think you just did that one last time. Okay that sounds like a self-nomination. Is there a second to George? I'll second. Thank you all. Any other interest in this important role? Okay. All those in favor of George say aye. Aye. Opposed? Alright thanks George. I guess I'm going out of order your policy. I've been on the policy committee but it hasn't met and it's hard for me to get there at 4.30. They're usually at 4.30. Usually they happen before and out of order me. Yeah and it's just a difficult time for me to make so if someone else unless the time has changed Is this a monthly, roughly meeting? Yeah it's probably every other month and it hasn't met for what since January. Yeah. So for several months. May I just ask if Charlie if you were interested? Kind of in my daily life. Kind of is. If you're able to make the timing. And I wouldn't want Scott bringing the table. I love you dearly. That's very nice. George's going out for policy. Anyway I can't promise you that I'd be a flowy eater. You're not a flowy eater. Excuse me for that. But I will flowy eat. Okay so I'm going to show you. Scott is there a second? I'll second that. Any discussion of any other interest in that? All those in favor of Charlie for policy committee say aye. Opposed extension. Okay and then I guess we're to labor management. And school quality. Okay so that is a committee as I described that's been working on student learning outcomes monitoring and planning progress. As I said I'm interested in continuing one person from the board. I would move card. And second. Any discussion? All those in favor of me for school quality say aye. Opposed? Opposed? Opposed? Opposed? Opposed? Opposed? Opposed? Okay so I think we continually have a number of times that either of us can go. And that's been an ongoing frustration. It's typically like 4 30 on Mondays. Can you go? I would be very, I think so. Could you just sort of explain a little bit more about what it is? So the central, probably you guys can explain better, the central rock career center is our technical education of one of their programs. And Penny Chamberlain organizes and sends out the information ahead of time. That's pretty much it. There actually are some pretty substantial decisions that are coming up with the career center in the next few months. So really as we receive a report in May about what their needs are programmatically and physically based. They have a real physical problem. They're also looking at changing their to a full day program. So there's some talk around that and there's several issues. So I mean if we need to be, I guess the moral of the story is we need representation on this. And I would just say that it is advisory. The Spalding Board and now the new Barry Merge Board will have, will have the Governor's Authority or the Tech Center. I feel compelled to mention that we're facing a 11% tuition. A stiff increase for next year or so. Down from the initial number that we've ever skipped. Still interested? Absolutely. Okay, is there a motion for Charlie to Scott? Second. Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Opposed, abstention? Okay, thank you. We recommend you to the Enos students. I'd recommend they use the position and not the title. I do that with every That has been the case for many years. Is there a motion? I'll move it. Any discussion? I wonder if there might be a chance to revisit if there, and maybe it will happen if there is a Merge District piece, but there are new truancy process procedures that we, I emailed out this week and the elementary schools have been sending out and I read somewhere something about a home school coordinator maybe for our district, so it might be something that we merge. I think it's something we could do in another time if we need to, but for right now. So we can set it now and then discuss it if we need to. Thank you. Okay, thank you. All right, Establish U32 Board Finance and Facilities slash Capital Budget Committee Memberships. So this committee generally meets in advance of the U32 budget process or we can junction through it. And through it, sometimes we have to do it once in the spring for capital pieces. So it's definitely an intermittent plays an important role in sort of getting the ball rolling if we're going to do a forum the committee would be responsible for sort of putting that together the information that we're going to present to the community. So I've been on this committee Scott, Karen given my timing I think I'm not interested I still am. I still do. Okay, and is anyone else interested in this? Is an insight into the budget making? Okay. I want to come to terms with that. I think we can operate with two if you guys are comfortable with that. We've had some years where that's going to come into case. It's great advice to Steven, myself and Maureen because we all are close meetings. Yeah. Sorry, was there meant to be three quarters then? Well, there has been at times, but we can operate with this. I think it was because it outbid my way onto it. So we take a motion for Karen and Scott to the finance committee. I'll make that motion. Second. Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Okay, thank you. And then finally a point, a member to the transition board. Okay, so that we've had Carl, right, as our clerk you were appointed. Yes. Still served on that. Right, that's correct. And then Adrian was. Right, that's the truth. And now we're, it doesn't have to be to chair it could be. It could be to a member you'd like, but the transition with Adrian found the board anymore. According to the check this out, Chris Leopold the board needs to reappoint a member. It needs to be it's a standing school board member that's on the transition board. And is there a meeting scheduled or a schedule of meetings? I propose that. But it really is going to be determined after April 18th. Okay. I just put those and those are the please take that possible as a big piece there. It's a I just threw those down trying to think about the workload. Okay. And it could be something very different depending on what that group is. So remind us the responsibility of the transition board is to develop the unified budget. Unified budget to warrant for and ensure the election while more of the templates do that to warrant the election for the merge board members and to communicate that with folks. I'd be willing to do that. At this I don't have a burning passion for it, but I'm happy to serve with you. I'd nominate Scott. Are you interested? Charlie. I blast. I actually am interested in it. Just because it's gotten a lot more like a bucking Bronco and I'm just a natural audio cloud. Are you the barrel man? That's even better show my broken bones. But, you know, I I'm not dying to do it. I have a perverse sense of fun. Then I'm going to nominate you. OK. Any discussion? Anyone else interested? OK. All those in favor? Scott for the transition board say aye. Opposed? Abstention. Thank you very much. Move on to the consent agenda. Is there a motion to approve the minutes and six that are in the packet? Second. Second? Second. Any discussion? I just want to mention that I'm abstaining from all that because I was on the board. Any other comments? That's good. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? We've got one abstention. OK. Great. So let's move on to 4.1. We've got time Jack. 15 minutes left. I think we have time to cover at least these next two. Yeah, I think many of the reports can be basic. You know, frankly, there's 4.2 and 6.1. So I don't know that we've established norms for the reorganization topic, and so I suggested including the SU board norms in just for discussion purposes in the packet. So hopefully people had a chance to look at those and you're probably not already familiar. So I guess the first question is, is there interest in adopting our own seven norms for these? I have that interest. I think that's a great idea. It's kind of like having the vision of an organization at the beginning of a meeting. To me, it just sort of sets a tone and if I read something like this when I'm reading a meeting packet before I go in, I'm just in the right frame of mind for... Yeah. I believe these norms are always front and center in the packet. The SU board is there. People generally agree with that? Or anybody uncomfortable with adopting norms? I am. Because I don't know what their status is. Each of us being elected officials. I don't have any quibble with any statements on the norms. I just don't know what their... I don't quite know what purpose they serve. Since they... to the extent that they... the war with our duties as elected officials at any given time the norms would have good way to our duties as officials. So I guess to summarize I'm happy to go forward with it but I take these as aspiration. Any other thoughts on if or whether to move forward? Okay, so how do people feel about these norms? Do you feel comfortable you want to talk about them? You want to spend time going through them? I actually have some questions and I looked at them again. I've always been under the assumption that these are the norms that we were using because they were always part of the broader meeting. I guess that's a poor assumption. So for you there are you kind of baked in? Other thoughts? I agree with George. That is basically my assumption today. Okay. My experience has been that there hasn't been a ton of whipping out and slamming Robert's worth of water down on the table. And these are sort of why is because we've and a lot of meetings have progressed where people are sort of only doing that if they really have to. So I think that's... I do have a few questions on them too. What was your question? Right off the bat, the very first one communicate to the public about public comments. Someone remind me what that actually means. When we take public comments during our meetings we're going to share those with the broader public. I actually think it was more if you receive a public comment. You bring it back to the audience. Got it. That needs to be clarified. But I think that was the intent to communicate to the public about public comments. Communicate to the board. That makes sense. Are people comfortable with that? That makes more sense. And that's when any of us have gotten an email and we've shared it and said someone emailed me and shared this concern. The third bullet start and end on time this meeting has not generally had end times for agenda items for the meeting overall. I'm wondering if people feel compelled to add those. The SU has that because often there are meetings after. Right. I think it's an aspirational list. It's a nice thing to have on the list but I think we as a group recognize there will be times when... In that spirit would it make more sense to say a time keeper may be named? I haven't said that before and I have no... Getting near the bottom announcements from the administration will appear in the reports and not as discussion items. To that I would add to the extent feasible because we don't want to be excluded from the latest and greatest information. You can tell us if you've been doing too much verbally or not enough. I'm not sure. Personally I really like written because the next level in the discussion are other thoughts. So I would just suggest adding to the extent feasible because I don't think... If you learn something today I would like to hear about it if you think we should know. And let's see the role of the board at the end of each board meeting reflect on whether the board stated a high level throughout the meeting to ensure alignment with the role of spending time on the weeds. I don't think this is better practice but I'm certainly open to it. I don't think it's going to practice with the SU board either so it's truly good aspiration. But I do think we do a reasonably good job deciding when we're going to go into the weeds. If it's a night where it just doesn't fit we don't let ourselves do it. Those are my questions. Could we cover yours? I can tell you because it comes from Educational World as a common statement that we're having a meeting you could say something and we can't get them back and forth or even other people comment I figured it was something like that. Don't dominate the table. Does anybody want to suggest an addition? The only thing that I would suggest is I think the role of board number 7 of last is to put it to colloquial I think the role of the board is sort of like central to our function and having a clear understanding of what our role is I think should be better explicated than that. So I I'll try to work something out or I won't. I just wanted to That's kind of like that. It's not quite the right title for it. It's not the right title because there's just go to the work that we've seen in VSBA and that's one of many places of good roles and boards there's a lot more than that so I think Charlie's on more like operational detail or something like that. By the way, is there going to be an orientation for our new board member? Is that standard practice? I have not had a chance to talk with Matthew and we haven't had one in the past year and a half or so so I'll talk with Matthew about that. Okay. It's usually the board chair runs out with the support of other board members from around but I just don't know I'm trying to believe. Alright, so are we comfortable adopting these as is? Yeah, I have some I've been taking some notes. So why don't you mark it up if you come up with something before the next meeting I want to change the title. Honestly, I truly think that thank you for offering that but I think that is a function of the board as opposed to the superintendent. Since I opened my big fat mouth why don't you let me take it this way? And you got notes on the things that we Well, I didn't take as clear notes as I should have but I think I've got them in mind. That's good. I'll double check with Bill. I was taking notes too. Alright, so we're going to leave it with Charlie's going to update this draft and we'll consider it next time. Alright, 4.2 is the track project. Bill, you're going to bring us some information. Right, I had a chance to talk to Du Bois construction As you know, the last time I informed you that they gave us an extra 30 days because we hadn't had a budget vote when I talked with the project manager he was willing to give us to the tent to see what the outcome of the budget was to notify them if we were going forward or not. So I think it made it less of a pressing discussion tonight. You know, as we said if we don't have a budget we may want to be looking at that money for other uses in case we don't have a budget in that case. It's about It's about the track. Yeah, I thought it was about having the parallel tracks. No, no, no. It's literally a construction project that if for some reason we need to go to cash reserves I'm not sure if I could recommend to you as a board to sign on to it. So for now we're covered in the scenario where the U32 budget is approved and you feel comfortable as a board going forward. In the event that there is a delay in merger. If there's not a delay in merger and we don't have a unified budget for some reason then we've got bigger problems than the track. So those are the scenarios, right? Those are the scenarios. You've got them. Any questions? Alright, so more to come but not until after the night. Can I suggest because of time, Kari, that we postpone the reports to the board and we go to the action agenda so I can inform you before you even put a motion on the table about what this is about. Is everyone comfortable with that? Okay, let's move to 6.1 then. So approved reductions of force according to the master agreement you have with both your ESP association and your teachers association the board needs to approve reductions by April 1st and notify them of that. So in the budget that you have that you approved there were seven positions to be reduced and Stephen could give us some more detail on what those positions are but those are pieces that were all the ESP positions. And I'm assuming one of them is the white table the math white table is one of those positions along with one food service employee and five paraprofessional positions. We also had an additional paraprofessional position that was supposed to come here but we are not choosing to fill that. So in all total it's eight positions but only seven people will need to be ripped as a result of this. So in that white table was that a kid indicated it was a paraposition? So the position is called academic support but it's akin to a paraprofessional position but in the past the past two maybe well maybe even longer probably the past three or four people that have staffed that position have been retired in math teachers. Can you comment on the impact on student learning outcomes? Yeah, so we have a bigger issue like so I mean I'm not hesitating because of that. There's a lot that's wrapped up in this. Currently our supports for students who are struggling in math start in seventh grade with math strategies. So students who take seventh grade math who are struggling will also have a full course in math strategies. That same support is there in the eighth grade and then as they transition to high school we have what's called an algebra lab or in the tenth grade a geometry lab for students who struggle with algebra and geometry. So they essentially have two courses of math available to them one being the primary instruction the other one being their tier two intervention. Then when they reach their algebra two level there is no algebra two lab that's associated with that. What we see is that the data that the teachers didn't bring to share but they have shared with me is that 53% of the kids who go to the white table are algebra two students in terms of and they're multiple times so there were 988 visits so far this year of just algebra two students to the white table. Some of that is for reassessment in fact that's one of the big pieces that they report that students are there but some of it is to relearn or to learn math material. So they go to the table to do that. We are not calling for an elimination of math white table and I think that's something that we need to kind of clarify is that we're looking to staff it with the teachers as part of their duty or assignments depending on how we structure the math department. So we are early a proposal on this so one of the ideas that was thrown out and we don't even know if it'll work so this is just the earliest idea phase is that what if one of the teachers taught two classes on say a blue day and then the same teacher covered the math white table on the white so using the current staffing that we have to help cover the table. We're not 100% sure that we can cover every block every day of a week because we don't necessarily have enough teachers to do that and their assignments are difficult on top of that. I would also say we've been asked by the math department as well for an increase in the number of the lab classes so going from three lab classes this year to four algebra lab classes next year and from two geometry lab classes this year to three next year. So the level of tier two interventions are increasing as well. We have budgetarily you'll see in the math department that I guess you guys probably don't have the numbers in front of you but there was an increase moderate increase to the math department but it was because we've actually added FTEs to the math department because in addition to covering these more intervention courses we also are covering one teacher is being used for the Zenith program which is our alternative education program that we have with our special education services. So we've already added math teachers to that. So there's a lot of balls near. So to answer your SLO question you know we I feel that the math department will need to cover those needs within the math department so for reassessment and for reteaching and for those kinds of things we need to work out within the department how to do those things I would remind the board over the past four years we eliminated the science we had a person who was in the science lab who we reduced four years ago I believe it was and we worked with the teachers to restructure their schedule so that they could cover that as part of their duty and part of their assignment. We removed the blue what was called the blue table for writing instruction our English teachers then changed the structure of their classes so they went from five teaching classes to four by increasing their class sizes and then conferencing with kids for the writing piece we asked our middle school teachers to teach five classes they were only teaching four previously in this last year we asked them two years ago we asked them to teach five so that they were teaching the intervention blocks in the middle school instead of us having a math intervention or a reading intervention specific person in the middle school it was the English and math teachers actually one of our social studies teachers that teaches one of the reading classes as well so we've been making this through all the departments we've been having these changes as we come I mean I need to say that it's math's turn but it's where we're at now you know it's the it's kind of the progression of how do we reduce our overall FTEs outside of the teaching force and that's the reduction in paras and academic support in favor of having the licensed teachers there I think the interesting thing about the math piece is that it has been a retired teacher and so that's been an advantage within that program is that they've had that advantage of having a retired math teacher in there where in some of these other positions that was not true we did not have like a retired science teacher in the science lab and things like that so so that's been the the biggest I think that's one of the bigger issues to it but we are asking our teachers to take on the responsibilities of intervention and math table white table is one of those interventions that we had and so that's kind of where we stand does it prevent our kids from meeting their SLO's it's hard to say that the math white table was helping them like we don't really have the data to show that either way that I know of and so I believe in our math department I know that it's painful at first but all of our other changes that we've made have once we've gotten through the initial shock our teachers have stepped up our teachers are excellent and they will be able to step up I think there's ways for us to address the consistency piece that they wrote that's one of the chief concerns by trying to not have it as a rotation of teachers but can we restructure some of the teaching schedules so that a teacher can cover multiple blocks of time all right we're over time in the interest of moving this along I'm sure you've discussed it for quite a while you're seeking approval of the course of seven right correct and this and this is time sensitive because these need to be issued by April 1st correct we want me to get before that can I just add on top I need to add one more piece is that currently we have within the school our schedules have been created our first draft of them we're still point six short in terms of all the interventions that we need to cover so I'm still short teaching staff to cover the courses that we have right now particularly with reading is one of the areas that we have and lit lab which is another intervention program on that side so there's a there's a lot I mean I know that we're we're kind of rushed for time but there's certainly a lot happening in terms of what we need as a school right now even given our budget reduction okay so would anyone like to make a motion much that breaks my heart the direction we're going we have to right size the school over the next decade and it's not it's on a teaching position support further discussion I'm going to support it not because I understand the issue but because I think it's false squarely in the area of our administration I defer to their judgment any other comments all those in favor say aye aye opposed to abstention okay that passes I will move that we approve the board order for $78,000 for $459 in 20 cents for the period of March 7th through March 20th and second Scott any discussion all those in favor say aye aye opposed to abstention that carries in lastly board communication because we didn't do last time so we'll shoot to get something together by early next week by tomorrow great okay so I would entertain a motion to adjourn for a student hearing to move into executive discussion I don't know I have an answer hold before you do that vote you asked for the protocol that we use for student hearings I brought a copy of that I also brought some questions that you've asked before for us to prep you with so you're ready for a student hearing I'll let you pass that out if you want a few minutes we can step out if you'd like to discuss that before you get ready for the hearing does anybody want extra time just to prepare I'm okay but Charlie isn't Charlie alright so I would entertain a motion to move into an executive session for a student hearing so moved I'll second that okay so it has seven seven six say aye are you opposed okay seven six