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Oh your moon tide Turquoise crown. Okay. No, it does help because it's nice to know who everyone is YouTube names are so different usually than people's other accounts So it does help me to know who you are and I know exactly who you are. Thank you for joining Kyle, what's up, dude? So this is this is your guys time. What do you guys want to talk about? I look like I'm humping, but I'm trying to move my my chair forward a little bit I'll wait for you guys to think of shit to talk about What's some things I can talk about? Hmm, so I'll give you guys a story You like that wardrobe change in my orchid shirt? Um, I'll give you guys a story From today and I can't be very specific because I promised I would not Repeat directly or screenshot anything said from this particular discord chat, but I've been hanging out in a I've been hanging out in a in a bunch of you should UFO discords and yesterday some dude comes in talking about some crazy advanced propulsion Secret spy stuff and I'm like whoa this dude's fucking out there and he was talking about how someone was a PhD and said Something rather and I was like dude like PhDs don't matter I can give talks about cannabis to PhDs and because it's a whole different plant. They don't quite understand it And then he said my dad pretty much invented cannabis He created all the strains and I was like hmm if that were the case, I'd probably know your dad so I mentioned Rob Clark and and the Watson and he said they stole from my dad as well turns out master tie is back and Run in the game. So just Be very careful with who you trust with with your shit. These guys are repetitive They come in and out of the scene every few years when people forget who they are They can't stay for long because they get thrown out So yeah, that was just a quick anecdote to say just be very careful especially with legalization We're gonna have a lot of people coming in making old wild claims Just like I tell the people in the UFO world critical thinking is Tant amount if you're gonna be spending money on seeds because you invest in something and it's not what you think it is Later on it does not hold the same value if that's why you hold it. So keep that in mind Which had been do you think is original or real? I'm very partial to the 56 day just because it's been around the longest as far as I know as some of the best provenance Yeah, so the 56 day I would have to say well plant brought the smell dark the small dark leaves to super skunk sourcam Afghani it was the Afghan tea supposedly I would I would I would assume Afghan tea Afghani one also brings those deep dark dark dark leaves the real weird trait about chem is like chem dog the 91 is when it fades it cannibalizes its lease from the outside in so it It doesn't just fade nicely and pretty with yellow going in and out. It just eats itself and the leaves crumple up and die off It's very Ugly plant to grow correctly. I know I think if I went only fans with it and just film that shirt change looking sexy Yeah, there's a lot of confusion around the headband and there's many many reasons I guess here I can tell some of the headband story. I don't normally talk about the the Murder cut part of the story. Sorry. There's dog hair on this How do I tell this without being too detailed at one point Someone had O. G. Kush that they brought To California one of these people that had the cut Was I think murdered and the roommate left took off with it renamed it to headband So that people wouldn't know That it was the same kind of O. G. Kush and they're there by tracing him That's the the headband story supposedly that now It's not like a verified vetted story, but most people believe it that We're around If that's a 56 day, maybe now We have the other 818 we have the seven Was it seven Something seven or seven headband we have all kinds and then we have people releasing just pure headband lines That have nothing to do with anything that are crosses of sour and O. G. Which again Kind of became what people considered headband was a sour and O. G You have the the cut that not so has called the la kush. That's neither a kush That's not a kush and Mandel crotch who gave it to him also said in parentheses a headband on a site once talking about it But that's the only time it's ever been referenced as a headband and Mandel brought was not the arbiter of truth So there is that If that helps clear it up, I hope so I would love to hear the old history of purple oracle and what we think It's made of ooh I would so much rather wait till CSI is on with me to talk the history of purple oracle What I can tell you and I don't know let me I won't tell you exactly what the name of it was But I'll leave that out Just so we have some way of knowing who's bullshitting and who's not The actual first name of purple oracle there's people that make many claims to it one of which is mad farder and He had claimed that something about his uncle or dad and humble his dad was never a humble person his dad was in Fresno I'm very good friends with his is blood-by-blood brother full brother by blood and he says the story's bullshit, so Leave it at that, but it is a cut from Northern, California Possibly Oregon, but the starting point most likely is in Northern, California And what it is some kind of Afghani hybrid best I could say I know that this yes, I have some speculation on possibly being PTK or a Piki P. TK Pintar Kush type derivative possible Yeah This self-trimmer. Yeah, it is kind of a self-trimmer the 91. It's fucking ugly Pakistani skunk one for oracle. No, you don't know that no one's ever Said that now. I do think there is skunk one in purple oracle I Definitely do because whenever I see skunk one stuff it has similar like the out process of purple oracle will have You know like onion fucking There can be some citrus some grapes and all these different things and the high Hits me the same way every skunk one high hits me and it's like a bad bad feeling for me like it's a total anxiety Thoughts on Maui Wowie oracle from CSI. Oh, I'm not sure where the Maui Wowie cut He has comes from It might be the one that's gone around humble. I don't know much about it though But if anybody has a real Maui Wowie cut it would be CSI The original Maui Wowie cut was made by a guy named fast Eddie From Hawaii and he was part of the brotherhood of each other love Yeah, the PTK connection is interesting. I don't know anybody who's worked more with oracle than CSI So like even though I think it's skunk one and like maybe skunk one Afghani maybe I would trust his judgment over mine in that even despite me thinking and whatever I think he's he's seen thousands more oracle type plants than I have and Outcrosses and S1s and everything to get a good idea for its parentage and the same with PTK So, yeah, any info on Kawaii electric. I have none. I know it's supposed to be a great old Hawaiian string But I just don't know anything about it See if there's any other questions. I've missed What else we got have you tried pintar kush thoughts on it. No, that's one of the few that I have not tried from From Tom Hill's old stuff PTK is not one I've done and I want to but it's just never worked its way into the circle of What I was running and I don't know that PTK stuff would really sell that well for me So it's not been anything. I've been in a rush to bring in pretty sure Bob Hamphill has AIDS oh the Maui dog. Oh Well, there's Maui dog. There's Maui dog. And then there's Maui skunk dog or just skunk dog I don't know which handpill has I would I know that he could have skunked dog I don't know about Maui dog, but I know he might have skunked on Because of a friend that we have in common that was passing that cut around I just went over the Maui were a few minutes Most I know about it is that it would have been an old school like probably Mexican Colombian type as far as Maui while he goes there weren't a lot of Afghanis At the time that that was being made and and sold in Hawaii by fast Eddie from the brotherhood of eternal love So I'm guessing Mexican Colombian Or Colombian or a hybrid of what is your most bulletproof plant for ease of growing and pest resistance So when I like immediately what pops in my head when I think of like Resistance to powdery mildew and pest. I always go for stuff like strawberry cream The bubblegum cut was it was phenomenal for any kind of resistance That was one of the things I I stress test just to see how long it would take to dud And it took a year not being repotted to dud That's a long fucking time that plant is super resistant What else the Durban the Durban cut that we used was very very resistant Super scum to don't tend to be very resistant. They're very susceptible to stress and bugs and everything Same with OGS Yeah off the top of my head the Durban cut and the bubblegum cut Trying to think if there's any I'm forgetting. Yeah, I'll settle with those Do you think the skunk one in super skunk was just so different? It hits different for you. I Don't know what the difference is like there's a lot of things different with super skunk Then other skunk one hybrids in most hybrids skunk one dominates That I've seen and it's it's it's constantly Skunk one types coming out of it whereas in super skunk You don't see a lot of skunk one traits. You see a predominance of Afghani type traits and I don't know if it's that this particular skunk one was used and selected by Neville to make that Or that it was the same skunk one that everybody was using but for some reason hybridized with the Afghan tea a certain way that made it like that but Yeah, I just don't know on that one It's one of the two What did you find in the Cali Chris Hayes bro stuff Terps? So the quickest thing I could say would be like Hindu Kush like what my first introduction to what Hindu Chris was was from a Dude named Doug down in San Diego. He was where the clock or orange came from and it was everywhere from like fruity to arm pity Some were more lanky like you would almost see an og type with big colas Some were more lanky with small buds But they didn't smell anything like og or look like og other than the lankiness and the small bud so Yeah, there was there was a quite a variation, but it's it was interesting to say the least Adding some lemon tie and some of its hybrids library. What's your experience on that? So lemon tie was an interesting one The lemon tie that everybody's used to Came from Dutch flowers, which was Richard Calrysian's company back when he was running heaven stairway and seabake seabake, I Think that was seabake cannabis world anyway Or over grow I can't fucking remember which anyways Calrysian was responsible for the lemon tie. It's some sort of train wreck type In that line, you can find a lot of auto flowering Heavy hermaphroditic traits heavy heavy Boatie worked a few generations of it to something really nice more Indica leaning he said And I know hope the rebel Some call him motor I call him hopeful rebel He worked it towards a more sativa and that's where you're finding all the auto flower and herm traits So keep that in mind as you are selecting it Probably try to navigate more towards the broadleaf as opposed to the narrowleaf What's your favorite thing to smoke on right now? I think you're smoking a smoking cherry AK. I've been smoking cherry AK all week and it was It was a it reminded me a lot of like the church you would find in a GMO, but more skunky But still had like the arm pity raunch Like it was good. It was a great cut. However, it is quite Old and tired so the hybrid was was Was necessary it needed that You still get the berry, but it's a lot. It's a lot like the blistering in the sense of terms if that helps Which is the GMO one? You think the Elvis cut was is an all five haze Yeah, it could have been it could have been an animal five dominant And all five haze type and all five haze is one of the most popular strains at the time I could easily see it being that sure. That's actually a really good take on it Lemon tight is a train rat cross just by the way. Yeah, it's a it's an old train rat cross But yeah, that's what's popping out at whatever whatever Cal-easy in or whoever made the seeds Cal-easy and just sold them whoever made them cross train wrecked to something very unpredictably auto flowering That's a cool line. I've made some lemon tight crosses that I've really loved I'm not a huge lemon fan, but I really like the lemon heads effect from it if I remember correctly lemon larry oji from Elite genetics, which is different than elite cannabis Yeah, that was a good one. I just picked up the blue resin Can you talk a little bit about it and the og used in the cross? So the the blue resin is using what we call the kush cut that came from my buddy resin luck And some of you remember him talking I but I don't care if he told the story on here or not But he was a part of the original og kush la crew that were blown up the mansions He was one of the managers of one of those big mansions and crews So this is a cut his crew held all those years came from Josh D and it It is one of I don't know if any of you I mean, I'm sure you guys have smelled like BH Oh, gee extracts that are super terpy like super super terpy That's what it smells like it smells like og extracts. It's extremely extremely terpy piney I Know CSI said he got it to express more wedding cakey More more sweet My my run of it was really really really like almost like Diablo where it was just so terpy and just Lemon pledge but less lemon and just fire so be It's very very potent it grows more squat like a bush as opposed to the lanky. It's very weird-looking More narrow leafs than a lot of OGs, which is fascinating I'm not sure. I'm not sure I'm not sure on it It's it's just so different from a lot of OGs the way it looks But it's one of my favorite breeding OGs if that makes sense When will CSI be flipping the NLs in a flower? They grew so fast Like early on I was wondering if they weren't just pure Afghani because they were so broad But slowly after the pop they all started to narrow up a little bit and they stretched like fucking mad before flower so Yeah, it's definitely a Afghani probably Mexican-Columbian hybrid just like Greg said and Hopefully they'll be flipped soon. I think you may have to take cuts and flip those with what's going on We'll see did you hit the rose flow to an og I did I think I really hit it I think I hit it to triangle and original diesel and Bubba and Giesel I hate the fact that like when I try to remember stuff I close my eyes and when I open them back up everything's so fucking blurry all the time So sorry about that. That's how I remember stuff Why is JJ such a spass? Hey, you know He's been in this game a long time. He's seen a lot of bullshit, too We all get pretty jaded after a while. I can't hate on that I mean I did when I first was in the scene and and Kept getting scammed over and over and thinking I knew everything and then we'll get scammed by another scammer thinking I've really learned some shit and then get scammed again. You get fucking really jaded It's hard not to be mad and hateful at that It's also it's also hard not to take it personal when like we see we see who built this scene and And who was a major part of it pushing for legalization and to watch how that came to be and it wasn't quite legalization it was more corporatization You know that it's it's it's hard. It's hard Have I had any success reversing any sour cuts not any success of any note I would only ever reverse one sour cut that which is the sour the people called the choco ECSD, etc Just because I wouldn't want to confuse and confabulate more sours into the already sour pull But I know Pip just did it tried to do it again, and it's just not he has the same experience I do it just does not kick much pollen if any at all Would be nice to have like a large large large Greenhouse full of it to try to pull it off and see how much we can get I think that would probably be the key Try different ratios of spray Some some lighter some heavier Yeah, that's it's just one of those cuts. It's always a bitch. Oh geez are always a bitch Sours super skunks in general tend to be bitches Though some reverse well than others are better the geezer will reverse pretty well a few times but I've also failed with her too Which is always a pain when you're fallback for everything like your number two and get like if something fucks up I always have a fallback so I can still make some seeds that round and I remember I did diesel first which I I never have problems with it and that failed and then I did Bubba and that kind of worked But it wasn't what I really wanted. Yeah, the chocolate sour deep chunk. I think most of those got sent in to Speakeasy maybe some it's it's here now. I'm not sure Didn't do many of them though. It's beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. It looks like sour had an easy time Merging with the deep chunk, which is kind of rare deep chunks are really really dominant in most things It doesn't have the most lively turf expression. It's more like earthy mud But it's beautiful. It's super frosty and yeah, is it cuz they come from herms? No, I mean you'd think that things that come from herms would be easier to reverse like just having a natural tendency to Have fluctuating hormones like that. You'd think it would be easy, but it is not Now that TKS ones are more plentiful. Thanks to CSI. Do you think they'll be used to revive og lines or will lead to further inbreeding? It's a good question God what hasn't og not been crossed to now? you know and Triangle I Mean I don't even know if the og era is still super strong like it was because of cookies and gelato and wrappers I would think it would be a good novel way to see more unique og expressions going through those Triangle cush s1s. I think in the triangle cush ABCs you're gonna find the craziest unique expressions and That's where you like that's where you could if you could find something super unique from something like a triangle cush ABC That's how you take over a market with something unique and rare something with the potency and Terps of triangle The looks of ABC. I mean literally that's why cookies got so popular was because how it looked it was very unique looking it was a unique expression of the combination of og and Urkel for the most part there might have been some other things in there, but you could do the same thing with og and Urkel and get the same expressions And it was super unique looking super resin is reliably resin is bred bred for heavy resinous traits and It was mostly looks so yeah, that's how you take over a market digging through weird shit If you could do a multi filial gen project what it would it be if I were to do it right now It would be probably the punchy bluster the blues ghettles, which I didn't release, but I'm working myself Bubbleberry and cherry berry I Would also do some more ecsd strawberry cream just because I like that so much everything was perfect coming out of that But everything's pretty perfect coming out of the bonnet, too I mean it and I can't like I tell people all the time I can't take credit for any of the good bonnet stuff. It was work done by Lone Star rest in peace It was work he did with DJs work, but I don't see a lot of DJs work in it In how it expresses other than sometimes colors, but it actually smells blueberry unlike most of DJs work It tends to be more Afghani it doesn't have the curly leaves a ton Which you see in all of DJs work Breeds heavy resin production, which you do not see in DJs work, especially leaf resin. It's great for washing unlike DJs work So yeah, a lot of credit goes to Lone Star. I don't know what he hybridized it with but I am there's no way you could convince me otherwise that it's not hybridized and Yeah, so anytime I talk about blue bonnet it's not talking about myself. It's actually talking that dude up and his work I did my own blueberry work From bag seed it's a bag seed from BCC collective that came in there is strawberry cough one day It didn't come in there strawberry coffee came in as blueberry and the owner renamed it strawberry cough I had a bunch of seeds smelled peanut buttery really frosty, and I thought it was it was awesome Popped the seeds and out came some of the most gorgeous purple blueberry smelling plants. I've ever seen But it wasn't super potent It didn't have a lot of Recreational potency, but it had a lot of medical potency It was great for nerve pain and other stuff Which I found is a lot of me when it comes to blueberry Terps It has that entourage effect that that helps with pain nerve pain all kinds of pains Have you found any specific strains that help with depression post opiate? Oh, man That's a hard one. I mean the blueberry stuff I would have to say probably because I've been through the same thing a lot of people know that came out the other side from bad opiate addiction and It's a it's it's gonna be a constant battle your brain your brain doesn't work the same anymore. You get anxiety It's hard to make those happy feelings. So it's something anti-anxiety Mild not necessarily slamming THC highs with something that has an entourage effect that accompanies anxiety Antianxiety properties like blueberry does for me doesn't mean it'll do it for everyone Some people blueberry just freaks the fuck out, but for me That's what I found. I have never found anything close to an opiate like high from cannabis Unless you ingest like nine brownies Real strong brownies, and then you're just not an often drilling But yeah, my best advice would be to find something that has anti anti-anxiety properties for you because Opiate addiction is a lifetime battle a Bottle of a dab and I'll do I Mean I drank I drank that bottle of dab and all one sitting and I was pretty cool I mean I fucked up, but I was it wasn't like oh like the like when I had to change my tire after eating a brownie brownie and like Yeah, oh that was a bad story OG is coming back ever tried or heard of master P OG from back in the day. It was loud. No never heard of that one I Okay, did that one Yeah, I did I definitely I Definitely did sleep a lot on the adab and all shit was bomb It was bomb, but yeah, one of my friends Can't remember his name off the top of my head. This is many years ago. He had said I'm gonna send you some brownies I was like fuck your brownies, dude Come on and by this point I had never had the experience of leaving the planet for medibles yet and I Left be a goddamn planet And I ate his brownies and I didn't just eat a few I ate a lot like a whole tray like a fat kid and it Felt me up and nothing like I was driving to the store and I hit a pothole and busted my tires is downtown, San Diego when I did it and It's like it all hit me the second I went to change that tire It took me like three hours to take that tire off and then I called an uber I was nodding off in the uber. I got to the tire place. I walk in the guy's like rough day, huh? Yep Supposedly was directly do you think Master P grows come on come on rappers don't grow they got a tour Why would they be keeping a mother room? Yeah Looper skunk ex-jaisal reverse would be a neat line. Yeah, that would be a nice Reverse back cross sure Yeah, I'm a big diesel fan I've loved that the first person to send it to me was Bodie Bodie had recommended it He had just made his Isaac Hayes, which was a diesel across the bengie Hayes with it And he did a diesel Appalachia as well right after I think With high and lonesome's line, but yeah, that was my first experience with diesel was by Bodie And it's become one of my all-time favorites Yeah, that three hours was a rough three hours, and it was by time I got home I remember the net I think I was high for like two or three days. It was it was stupid It was stupid how high it was from those brownies, and it was not like a pleasant high. It was like Fuck I don't speak English, you know that kind of high. Yeah, he does have a dispensary. Yeah back in the day When it comes to OG's there are only a few cuts really that were considered legitimate that weren't When I say legitimate meaning they were the first ones to really pop up and we have that list still and Master P was not one of them So it wasn't something that was around back in the day as far as I mean Back in the day to someone might be a lot different to my back in the day, you know This ice cream shop dispensary is nothing but original and old OG's from back in the days supposedly. Yeah, I got it See here's the thing From Master P to source old OG's and stuff like that. He'd have to be in circles that keep those old OG's and I don't know anybody who grows for his dispensary That they publicly says they do or sources cuts or any of that and you'd have to source it from one of the homies So it's just like when I hear stuff like that's like, okay, that sounds like a good story, but not really realistic That's not how that's not how you get a lot of these old cuts. They're not just out there for people to get You know Yeah, a lot of those old cuts are still kept in very tight circles So how you got so how you start speaking Spanish, I got so fucked up on mushrooms I forgot English and started bawling. I was talking to Brandon. I was like Love those moments when you can laugh at yourself for being an absolute idiot that shit ever Key lime You guys ever tried the LeCroix lime tastes like fucking floor cleaner, but the key lime the shit. That's where the shit is Anyway, if anybody getting got any more questions get them in right now, and then I'm gonna bounce I'll probably do another one of these Thursday I will do another one of these Thursday So if you guys put it in your schedule, we'll do it around the same time Thursday So we can all get together and shoot the shit. I appreciate every single one of you that came out to the smaller things I fucking love that shit It's nice not to have like a thousand questions flying by all fast and I can actually Like go into detail on some stories and tell some stories that I normally wouldn't tell on the live feed for various reasons a Lot of the time if I sit on information, it's only to keep people from using that information to scam other people You could slap one person and one person in the industry right now. Who would it be? Oh That's a name I never fucking say But most of you know who I'm talking about it wouldn't be a slap Yeah, same that time seeming like that channel because some questions for me guys and Thursday, we'll do a giveaway. How about that Thursday? We'll do a good giveaway I was gonna do it right now, but I have to go bounce But we will do a giveaway Thursday and with some seeds in the shirt or something like that something cool Go stop by speakeasy.com speakeasyseabank.com. I mean That's where all the seeds are right now and there's a bunch up tons of different strains They're all good price right now. So go grab them and rock it Anyway, lots of love everyone and really thank you for showing up and guys are why I do what I do Cheers