 Hello, my friend. How are you? How are you? I'm sitting here talking to a friend of yours, Marvin Watson, and Arthur Cramp. Oh, well, say hello to him, but... Sure will. Mrs. Daly had a meeting of 500 women last night, and they adopted a tremendous resolution for Lady Burke. Oh, God bless you. Complimented her for her... Well, let me tell her... You tell her, you tell her. Wait a minute, you tell her. Yeah. Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor. Oh, Lady Burke, how are you? Fine, thank you. I just want to tell you, Mrs. Daly had a meeting of 500 women housewives in our ward last night, and they adopted a resolution complimenting you upon your great patience, and particularly your demonstration that you are a real First Lady of our land in the recent incident. Thank you, sir. And they all were just terrific, and these are people that all got one and two kids. Some of them have lost them. The one that made the motion was Peg McChelner, just lost her boy, a First Lieutenant of the Marine, in Vietnam, 20 years of age. But it was such a dramatic meeting. I peeked in a little bit myself, but I didn't go in, and these women were all just up cheering you and above all, your great lady-like conduct in the face of a very, very strange incident. So I want you to know that, and they're sending you a copy of it. It's the Bridgeport Women, which is a neighborhood where I live, and it's most of the stockyards, and they're just housewives, but they're real Americans. And that's the generation for you. Well, do give Ms. Daly my gratitude and my affection. And Mr. Mayor, the will of the bad thing was that there had been so many good, sensible suggestions made there. Well, we always heard of bad, we never heard of good. All the good things they say are buried with us, you know, but the bad is always said. Well, nice to talk to you. Thank you, sir. Nice to talk to the president. And here he is back. Hello, Dick. I said I peeked into that meeting, and there were 500 women on her feet, and the woman that made the motion was the mother of First Lieutenant Joe McChelner, who was in action a month ago. And he was 20 years of age, and he was a hell of our boys. I wish you'd get your secretary. The colonel, the senator sent a name, so I'm a writer. Well, it was what I called you about. I think you should get into motion, your national committee, and have the state of the Union sent to every elected official in America, and then have a little note from the president, not on the political end of it, but on the American end of your state of the Union address, and then have the suggestion from Bailey that they wouldn't have the state of the Union, because they won't read it, but have someone digest the high points of it, and then ask that they read copy it and send it to every precinct captain and every worker in America. I think it'd be a hell of an idea. I'll do it right away. You mean just digest the state of the Union and have it printed, that's right. Yes, but if you had a little note from you, to all the officials, telling them, you know, about we're all Americans, no political thing in it at all, and this is what I think will make it better American, and then they all feel good when they get something like this. And I'd run it all the way down to the legislators, and to the governors, and to the state senators, and to the mayors, and everyone else. The other thing is, can you take care of Barrett O'Hara in an appointment, and do you win on one of those subcommittees, like in Africa, that he's not going to go back to the Congress, our eighth award committee when voted yesterday afternoon, that they didn't think he should be re-endorse for another term? Yeah, we'll find something whatever you want for him. I don't know whether you win, I don't know what they'll do there. Not a full delegate, but you know those subcommittees, like they get all the help, and they get all these other things. And then they'll make it look as though we're trying to help them. I'll get right on it this minute. You're coming out to us on the 25th? Yeah, I won't do anything you want me to do all the way. We'll have something very substantial on that night, too. Say, I'm a little worried about Shriver trying to build up all this stuff down here, about going back to Illinois. Yeah, he wants to, he'll run for anything, I think. He leaked this story, you know, to the Tribune about the thing. And there's some way that you could get him to talk to you and you tell him what he ought to do. He was out here last night. What did you agree on? Well, he didn't agree on anything. He didn't know what he wanted to do himself. Well, I said, I understood you were all set with. I didn't say, he told me about, you know, you're nice. Well, this is a great opportunity for you. What'd he say? Well, he said, he was so nice, meaning yourself. And I feel that I'd like to get back into Illinois with all you people. Well, I said... You remember Bob Wagner got into Illinois with Bobby. And that was the cruelest thing I went along with Bobby. And Bob Wagner had enough sense to tell me that you better stop looking. Well, listen, but I didn't have enough sense to follow him. Yeah, well... Now, you speak a little more tougher than Bob did and you're a little more decisive. But you damn sure look after your own interest because you're the only thing we got left in this country. Well, then he said, well, I said, well, you know, this is a great opportunity. And that's been coming from a president. Well, what do you want to do yourself? He doesn't tell you. He said, well, I don't know. Oh, I said, what the hell do you want to know? Well, what do you think he said? What he wants to do between you and me? He wants to run for governor. That's exactly what... He wants you to appoint Karner for a big position. Judge... Juddly, no, not a judgeship. He was talking about the defense secretary's business and I had the radio on because I'm smart enough to know that when I turn the radio on they can't do any taping of what I said and I had it on pretty high and what the hell happened. But an announcement that the great fellow was appointed. So I said, well, you can stretch that so you can start all over. So they started all over and he said, well, would he take a judgeship? Well, I said, why don't you go down and ask him? What are you asking me for? Well, I said, in my opinion, Karner is a good governor and if he wants to be the candidate, he'll be the candidate for reelection. And I said, I think he is. And I said, I think the president isn't accord with that because the president needs help all over the country and where he has a good, strong way of running for governor, he wants to keep him in that position. What good would it do to the 68 ticket? If Karner wants it and you want Karner, that's who I want. He said, well, what about the judgeship? Well, I said, you'll have to ask the governor about that. We can give him that two or three years from now. We can give him that later two or three years from now. We can give the governor judgeship after he finishes governor. That's right. So he left asking me what I think he should do and I said, well, I'm no international man but I know that there's damn few people that are ever offered the ambassadorship of funds and if you could ever work out some arrangement with the old guy over there, you'd be one of the biggest fellows in the country. That's right. And I said, then you could come back and run for anything. That's exactly right. You might be even considered in the 72 convention. That's right. And I said, I think the president gave you good advice if you come back in 70 and you're a candidate or governor in Maryland, you're almost a cent. Well, he was going to go back and study it again and come back and talk to me. He didn't know. He didn't know about the senatorship. Let's don't let him get in that now. We'll just cause trouble. We never will have a friend. This guy goes along the other side and helps us and then if we gang up and try to defeat him, well, there's no gratitude. Well, there's nothing about our fellows though. They can't feel that we should have two Republicans for the next four years in the Senate. Well, I agree that's right but they under-elected that last one. Well, we, you know, the fellow defeated himself. Yeah, I'm afraid so. I'm afraid so. Every time he talked to the open housing, he lost 100,000 votes. And I try to tell him and I try to tell him to meet the AIDS thing. I head on but he wouldn't do it. He was ducking it and everyone was whispering which this is going to kill this guy. Do you know when this fellow finishes, he's 78 years of age, with all the critical things facing this nation and this world, man, 78 years of age is a lot beyond the biological expectation of the doctors and everyone else. And that's going to be a great issue out here no matter who's the candidate. Well, he's in the house. And especially against the young fellow. He's in the hospital now. Sure. And he's level of pass out before the election. I hope he doesn't need a decent guy. Do you think he wants to run for Senator Shriver? I think he is. Very clever. Truly, we could get him to run for clerk of the circuit court out there. He just seems, he wants to get in politics. Can you elect him, Senator? Can you elect him? Yeah. I think we can elect certain people that are mentioned, yes. Yes, I think we can. And I think that he'll be, you'll elect him. As you elected Turner four years ago. So I'll tell you one weakness in your armor. Well, there's a lot of weaknesses in it. Well, you just got one and I know of it. You got one down here that I know of. Who's that? Your man, Rustin Kowsky, who is the successor to Tom O'Brien, is personable and is able, but he's not a daily. And you ought to say, now listen, we got one leader. I'm the leader of Chicago and president is leader of the Democratic Party in the nation and us. And you're my leader in the house and you're the president's leader. Now, before you take a position, before you get out here and run hoeing around with every damn dissident element and every bad mouth, or you go sit down and talk to that president. I have his word. I told him, you can just say, I told president Marvin Watson, anytime Rustin Kowsky wants to talk to you about anything that he can come in and 15 minutes notice. And I want you as representative of Chicago and Chicago delegation, I want him to be the most powerful Washington. Now, they were when Sam Rebren was there and there's no reason why they can't be with you there. When Sam Rebren, Tom O'Bron, they had a great combination. They did it. Now, I want you old-timers, I'll forget some of these young fellas. I'm trying to train them. I made them the chairman yesterday of the slate-making committee on state offices and the numbers of the Congress. And the advice I gave my brother, and I said, Danny, there's one thing about it. You talk too much. And I said, you know the old-timers say, we used to say, don't talk too much because you'll have to retract too much. That's exactly right. Don't get yourself, you get out. And the other thing is, you think because a newspaper man or a television commentator asked you a question, you've got to have all the answers. The easiest question, answer to those questions is look at, I don't know anything. I'll look into it. I'll give you the answer. I don't know what the Illinois delegation is going to do or I don't know what I'm going to do myself. I said, some of you young fellows, I had three or four of them in that I'm trying to train, some of you young fellows think you have all the answers to all the questions. And I said, no one has that. I said, every day when they come in here, I say, honestly, I don't know the answers, but I'll get all the information and then I'll talk to you later on. You fellows ever have it. And I'm going to see them again today and repeat. I said, Danny, you ever have it to think you have to answer all the old international questions or questions involving the president and the administration? I said, you know we're demo. Oh, I'm for the president. I'm for the Democratic Party. I'll stand up and I said, yeah, but sometimes you make statements. What I want him to do, what I want him to do, I want McCormick is up in years and he's a great fellow. Carl Albin's had a heart attack. I've got nobody up there. I've got nobody up there that is a leader. The ones I've got in the country, I've got very few like you. So I want to make him a leader. I want to give him power. McCormick and Hayden should be at it. But what the hell does it do to the party when we see them? I like both of them. I know them, but when you look on television as we did the other night and you see them fall into sleep and you're talking about the State of the Union message. I didn't look like I was asleep, did I? No, no. I'm talking about the leaders of the Senate and the House. I hope that when I'm around someone will tap me in the shoulder and say, you get out of there because you're out of position. I may ought to quit now. I may be too old already. You're a kid. The guy says, honestly, when you get up into the middle 70s and... You know, we all look to the younger people. That's why we made eight changes in our organization yesterday. Listen, Deco, what we got to do, Dick, what we got to do, though, is you got to equip somebody like Roskin Palski to take over. And the first thing you got to do is say, now, God damn it, I want more power in that White House than anybody in the United States and I want you to have more power in that Congress. You know, work together and I want that done. That's right. Well, what do we agree on it? I don't want to be a boss. I just want to get along. You're the leader.