 Our next panel is the panel on the migrant stories. International Dialogue of Immigration, bringing representative of the governments, representative of NGOs, civil society, and universities, but also bringing the most important part to why we are doing this, it's because of the migrants. We have today with us online three young and inspiring migrants from Nigeria and Djibouti who will bring the youth leadership perspective and their contribution in the area of migration and areas of communication, innovation, and digital development. Ms. Chilien Azouk is a writer, public speaker from Nigeria, who trained as a migrants, as messengers volunteering in 2018, a peer-to-peer messaging campaign that shares invaluable information about safe migration. Return immigration share with their communities and families an authentic and honest account of their migration experiences. Migrants as a messengers is founded by the Netherlands government and implemented by the Internationalization for Migration in Kodewaer, the Gambia, Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, Senegal, and Sierra Leone. Ms. Azouk is the founder of Female Returning Forum, an organization for female returnees who support a large network of female returnees involved in awareness-raising about unsafe migration and challenging the stigma often faced by migrants and who have not reached their intended destination and return on their place of origin. She informs young people about the safe migration of volunteers with a stop-trata project to produce a Venice campaign video highlighting the dangers and on the regular immigration and human trafficking. Ms. Azouk, thank you for being with us today. Today, please, the floor is yours. Thank you, moderator, for this opportunity and IOM for organizing this section, including providing a platform for return migrants like me to make contributions on our role. My name is Azouk Ifichilian. I'm a returned migrant from Libya. My experience going through the desert and sea, trying to cross to Europe, actually made me realize that information is important. So I desire that I would like to talk about my experience, share it with people and help them to gain accurate knowledge about the right way to migrate. So upon return, I joined the migrants as messengers, a peer-to-peer awareness raising campaign where we educate people on the right way to migrate. I chose to support returnees because returnees have peculiar challenges which sometimes they don't share with people and sometimes they make several mistakes or make bad decisions. Also, I chose to support female returnees because of the trauma, sometimes loss of hope, abuse and stigma that comes to returning back to the country. Some of these female returnees that have been supported in our organization have also joined in awareness raising and have used their experience also to discourage people from migrating the wrong way. Okay, I'm committed to assisting returned migrants with mental health and psychosocial support because some of these female return migrants are experiencing certain things that they can't actually talk about. But because of the fact that I'm a returning like them and I have firsthand experience in some of these things that they are going through, we assist them with psychosocial support and also get training most times that help them to gain accurate knowledge because most of them are misinformed and some of them because of their experiences seem to practice things that they actually do not want to willingly practice but then because of some of the things they are dealing with, they practice those things. So giving them this psychosocial support is our priority in the organization. On COVID-19, I also have given some assistance to the society, to my community bringing them accurate information. I observed that a lot of people were practicing so many wrong things because they were misinformed. Some of them were taking things they shouldn't take. Some of them didn't even have information from the World Health Organization. Most of them didn't even know what World Health Organization is and what their role is in the world. So I write and at the same time, I also go out to talk to them like raising awareness on COVID-19 and what is expected of them, what they are supposed to do to stay safe. Okay, so this is my contribution in my country. These are the things I've been doing, I've been involved with, trying to raise awareness, trying to give people accurate information, trying to ensure that people do not practice things they are not supposed to practice. Thank you, Mrs. Uch, as we couldn't see you, please I would like to ask you to stay with us online and enable video because only you can do it from your side. We as a moderator cannot do this, then enable for the Q and I and some intervention from the floor. Now we're moving forward and before we pass to our two guests, allow us to showcase some portraits of armed doctors, nurses and counselors, which do tremendous work on COVID-19 frontlines in different regions of the world. This will also be an opportunity, not only to present their most relevant perspectives for our discussion, but also to pay tribute to them as being real life heroes. Please. Bonjour à tous, je suis... Travaler para uma agência humanitária sempre foi um son. Eu venho de uma família pobre, filas de mamãe solteira, onde as mulheres tinham poucas opções. Meu primeiro desafio foi ser médico. Teve que sair fora de meu país para poder estudar e durante todo esse percurso eu percebi que existia muitas discrimiações com as minorias. Dentro dos desafios que eu como médico humanitária encontro no nosso diazia, é o fato de a gente viver uma sociedade discriminatória onde as minorias são muito fragilizadas. Isso me motivou a procurar uma agência onde a gente poderia ajudar aqueles que são discriminados. Foi assim como eu conheci a OEM. Se a OEM não estivesse aqui, ficaria totalmente desassistida pessoas que moram em rua, que moram na área de abrigos, na área de abrigos e de ocupações espontâneas. I would like to pass the floor to our two guests, the other two guests today. This is Mr. Bayalak Dahir and Mr. Bayalak Dahir. Mr. Bayalak Dahir, Mr. Bayalak Dahir, Mr. Bayalak Dahir, Mr. Bayalak Dahir, Mr. Bayalak Dahir, Mr. Bayalak Dahir, Mr. Bayalak Dahir and Mr. Hussein Muhammad from Djibouti. Mr. Dahir is the manager of Creative Spaces, FABLAB, and Mr. Muhammad is an IOM Senior Program Assistant at IOM Djibouti working on the project. Hausburg University of Djibouti, the creative space, aims to increase the job and learning opportunities like technology and build a strong and start-up and entrepreneurial communities in migration context. This is the result of an innovative partnership between IOM, the University of Djibouti, and the space-based humanitarian organization, Tech of the Homes. Mr. Dahse, Mr. Muhammad, thank you for joining us. You have the floor. Good day. I want to thank the moderator, and I want to thank you for inviting us to this international dialogue on migration. Just like some of you already know, the creative space is part of the University of Djibouti, and as the moderator rightly said, this is a truly unique initiative that creates a training ground that is open to technologies and to digital know-how that is focused on young people in the country, but also those migrants that come from other parts of the world. For us, the lab is an essential tool for young people that come to our country. That is why for the returning migrant, integration and reintegration is absolutely essential, and this FABLAB contributes greatly to their socioeconomic integration. It allows them to contribute, and it promotes their socio-professional integration, and they become financially independent and socially stable. This is a new skill, an essential skill which guarantees the economic independence of these returning young people when they come back to their home country. So this digital inclusion is actually something completely necessary for young people from Djibouti, but also for migrants who might live in the street. This lab has been supported by our government, and indeed it supported it from the beginning and accepted and hosted in the heart of the University of Djibouti. The FABLAB team has been invited to participate in many seminars and conferences linked to technology, and that way we've been able to spread the word. Our major long-term goal here is to give Djiboutians the option to stay in their country while they could develop a better future. This digital revolution is pregnant with opportunities, both social and professional, brand new opportunities for all these young people. The effort towards digital inclusion affects young people in Djibouti and it promotes creation and knowledge building. We are working towards participating in the digital economy and also fighting against stereotypes against migrants, and so we train young people in these new tools. These projects are the first forum of the IOM to create labs, and thus it is we'll be facing the challenges posed by migration and development. Now FABLABs represent an international network with a physical space where people can learn and explore different digital tools and therefore access different professional training opportunities. Our creative space is based on a truly extraordinary experience. It's something that's a standard setting. We provide technical know-how as well as advice on how to transform the space that the IOM has set up which promotes social independence, the professional outlets for young people, and young people are proud of the success of their project. But we didn't stop there. We created an entire international network worldwide and IOM Djibouti used its know-how and that of others, and now we've helped the IOM to set up other spaces similar to ours. We are very happy to contribute to the success of these other projects and to share our expertise to or with other countries so that they can also have that same opportunity. Now I'll give the floor to my colleague Gabelaer which will flesh out what I said and thank you again for this opportunity and for including us in this conference. Thank you very much. Thank you. Good morning, good evening for some of you. First of all, I want to thank all those who invited us to be here today on the issue of innovation. I'll introduce myself. I am Abdel-La'iyah and I'm an engineer in electricity and renewable energies. First graduating class of the University of Djibouti, I managed the creative space in this hub, the first hub in the country. What is a fablab? The word fablab is a compound word, fabrication laboratory. So by definition, it's a place which promotes creativity, which is under the heading of MIT which makes available all sorts of tools, especially machine tools that work digitally to conceive and develop projects and build them as well. So I'm going to introduce myself. I'm Abdel-La'iyah and I'm an engineer in the University of Djibouti. I'm an engineer in the University of Djibouti. I'm an engineer in the University of Djibouti. I build them as well. The salient characteristic of fablab is their extent of coverage. They address everyone. And when I say everyone, I mean entrepreneurs, designers, artists, DIY students and obviously to migrants as well who would like to go more quickly from the concept to the prototype and from prototype to the actual output and production. And so fablab includes a wide gamut of populations and different age groups. It is a space where people can meet and can create cooperatively. The difference between this fablab and other fab labs around the world is that throughout the world there are about 1,300 fab labs. And the difference with respect to ours is that we have adapted our fablab so that we can help those affected by migration to provide them with inspiration, a space where they can be creative, where they can build something and cooperate. We work mainly with unaccompanied minors to provide them with digital skills and we offer them the opportunity to participate on digital and creative projects. We therefore offer a truly professional and educational space which provides support to young people that don't have access to formal education. And therefore we try to manage their lives that are often going through very tough times. Just to give you a broader context, I'd like to say the following. Before I worked in the creative space of fablab, I myself had kicked off my own business, my own startup, an association focused on health matters. We worked on muscle fiber signals and this opened the door to a whole plethora of possibilities. This included, for example, bionic limbs. My startup wanted bionic prosthesis that would help people who were at some level with disabilities in the upper torso. Far eastern countries are very advanced in high-tech issues. Europe and the United States are also quite cutting edge. We're talking about a genuine technical revolution. We have robots that are being developed for agriculture, aerospace. In Japan, for example, we have robots that provide welcome and maintenance in hotels last year. Before we had inaugurated that fablab, since we didn't have resources, both in terms of material and economic, this was extremely tiring for me because I could witness this foreign hegemony. In Africa, we have potential. It is present. It is there. And projects such as fablab allow us to express ourselves, myself and other young people, and to perfect our creative skills and that of other young people as well. We're working on 3D printers, Electrolink, voice recognition, robotics. Basically, within fablab, we work in many different areas. We also work on biomedical topics. Basically, fablab knows no bounds. Fablab has made things easier for us, more accessible to us. Our role in fablab is to try to provide a framework to these young people to engage their creativity, to raise awareness, and also to meet migrants to popularize our scientific approach. Fablab is, first and foremost, a space for people to meet with a high social value and it allows us to dream and to leave our usual boxes, so to speak. I often say to myself and to others that come to fablab that I'm speaking for myself, obviously. Imagine prostheses for people who have no control over the lower half of their body. We could work with both migrant and Djiboutan disabled individuals free of charge. I have a personal dream. I would like to have social professional integration for these people and make it a priority so that they can bloom. I'm referring obviously to these disabled people, but also to include others and give these people some level of autonomy. Fablab has made these dreams possible for me because the limits no longer exist. The sky is the limit. I would mention one of the young people who are here with us. There is a chap that works a lot for us. He is Mohammed Al-Falad. He is a young engineer and he's also head of a startup that works at building thermals. He uses our lab to set up his models, models that we have here, physically present, which make him save a lot of time and save enormous amounts of money. His business nowadays is recognized nationwide. I could also mention Rupeyar Al-Aparad. She is another youth that also works in the Fablab and she is the president of FAMTIK in Djiboutia. This is an association of women that have no IT knowledge. What does she do? Well, she trains them on digital tools. Myself, Mohammed Hussein and others, we help her to execute. This is something we also do with young migrants that come to us from Caritas, young migrants that come from impoverished backgrounds that are between 14 and 18 years of age, young unaccompanied migrants. So we can teach them this passion, this creativity. Just to give you an idea of the potential place such as this, let me share with you very briefly the work carried out over the period of coronavirus. The sanitary emergency we've all gone through affects almost all African countries, indeed the entire planet. It's required setting up at Fablab a coordinated approach between different institutions. Our creative space had plans which were there to combat COVID-19 and fleshed out the government's initiatives. We had a specific target, for example, which was the deployment of equipment that was essential for care or for the prevention of health risks. In March, April and May, the creative space faced facing this challenge changed direction. And we started to produce PPE equipment to respond to the coronavirus pandemic. My goal, instead of other young people working together here, was to participate in the nationwide effort to stem the spread of the pandemic by exploiting the innovation potential and all the output that Fablab could muster. Myself and my team have produced more than 300 protection masks. Actually, these are more protection visors, as you can see on the screen. These are protective visors, almost helmets that protect healthcare staff against saliva droplets. We've also built respirators that were produced using the 3D printer. We've used the prototypes full well in the Fablab and just explained to you what the respirator is. It is basically a piece of equipment that helps breathe. How does it work? Well, to make it work, we've borne in mind four essential parameters, which is the volume of air, the ratio of E on O, and respiratory frequencies, as well as another variable. So despite the fact that I'm not a doctor and I'm focused more on energy issues, Fablab does overlap on many issues, which means that we can work on many different topics and contribute to the effort. So during the height of the coronavirus, we went into biomedical projects and these respirators were an example. We were constantly in touch with Djiboutian medical doctors, and that's how we set up these prototypes and distributed them to the different hospitals in the country. We didn't stop there because the return to universities here in Djibouti started on the 23rd of May. And so to try and counter the coronavirus and to put into place safety framework to ensure that the return to university was in safe conditions with the University of Djibouti, we worked on disinfection tunnels. So what are those? These are sort of cabins or booths where there is pulverized disinfectant released. So we built seven of these disinfectant tunnels at the entrances of the university at the various gates. And these were also aimed for the various hospitals and care centres to government agencies, to first healthcare providers. And to thank us for this work that we did for the coronavirus, we had an official visit from the president of the republic, Mr Ismail Omergele, who is the most important in our government. And we also had the minister for education and higher education and research and the minister for communications also visited us. So to conclude, the FABLAB in Djibouti allowed us to work in many areas, both as young peoples and as members of this creative laboratory. I and many other young immigrant Djiboutian young people were delighted to be able to participate and to help and to contribute solutions to our country. We are trying therefore to set up and build a better ecosystem which will help young people affected by migration to ensure that they can access better opportunities. And we very much hope that this space will provide alternatives to dangerous migratory journeys and that this will help these young migrants to integrate in the communities where they are. And we hope it will provide them with greater opportunities. So I'd like to stop there, but I'd like to thank you once more for having invited us and for giving us this time to speak. Thank you very much. I'd like to thank you to all three migrant story presenters. I think we have actually pretty good presentations in the sense that we can understand the importance of information to prevent any irregular migration but also to share information for those that are actually travel abroad. We've done clear pathways to actually explain to the countries of origin on dangers that could be on the road as well as how actual information is important for combat the stigma. Also, if we see actually from the fab lab and the importance of the networking between the different fab labs under the guidance of the MIT, it's important to see how the digital skills actually help us to not only to do on advance bionic proteases and medical sphere but also to help to combat COVID, the visas, respirators, and this disinfection tunnels that we had a see of from the presenters. Now I would like to open the floor for comments, questions, suggestions. So far, we have only Japan in the list and now I would like to give the floor to a representative of Japan, please. Hello, is it working? Yes, you're online. You can go ahead. Thank you very much, moderator and panelist for providing variable information. It's very useful. Actually, Japan has supported people, especially for vulnerable people even on the COVID situation. So in order to tackle the problem you raised, we heavily rely on IOM's activities. As IOM have good long experiences and expertise in the field, and furthermore, IOM has a passion to have, to save and support people under difficulties. So we are very much happy to work with IOM. And I will share the information you kindly shared today with the capital in order to better reflect the information into our aid policy. And finally, I'd like to thank you for mentioning Japan's assistance. We are very, very much happy to hear that our assistance has good impact to the people in India. Thank you very much. Thank you, Japan. We have actually one of the panelists who would like to add. This is Mr. Hussein Mohammed. Mr. Mohammed, go ahead. Yes, I just wanted to come back to one important point that I wanted to share with you and that we may have left out. This project allowed us to assist miners. So unaccompanied migrant miners who are children in the street in Djibouti and we were able to work with them. And this allowed them to acquire knowledge and skills because these are young people who arrived to a creative space where there were no stereotypes and they learned how to do so many things that today, with the knowledge they've acquired, they can use that. And so our plan for the future is to create this network on a national level and an international level so that young migrants, those who are most vulnerable, will be able to promote their skills that they've learned within these spaces at a higher level and that will help them to avoid discrimination just as we do here in Djibouti. That's something important that I wanted to share with you. Thank you. Thank you. Dr. Kamara, who is actually a doctor for a mountaineer who is by himself the aspirin, actually we can say as a migrant would like to take the floor. Please go ahead. Afternoon and thank you very much. I was really very impressed by the presentation from my colleagues in Djibouti and to hear about the therapeutic innovation using a 3D printer and the ventilators. Really, this is something interesting because in our country in Mauritania what we had was a problem with a lack of respirators and ventilators. And when we needed to order them, the pandemic was at its peak in all countries, in particular in China and Europe. So we were faced with an absence of ventilators. So the idea of having ventilators produced with a 3D printer is something that's extremely interesting. So I'd like to know if there's a way of sharing this information and to transfer the skills so that we could benefit from it and we could set up these ventilators in local production because what we have available is extremely expensive equipment. But if we can develop this, now I'd heard about this type of technology with colleagues in Salm in France. I'd be really interested in being able to benefit because with a 3D computer we could do this and I'd like to be able to exchange with our colleagues in Djibouti and hear more about the project. And once more, congratulations. It's really impressive. Many thanks, Dr. Kamara. We have one more request from the floor. This is Mr. Kronin from Ireland. Mr. Kronin, are you online? Yes, you are. Please go ahead. Thank you very much, moderator. And thank you indeed to our presenters. It's very impressive to hear both from Nigeria and Djibouti of the innovative work that's taking place. And really we wish to express our strong appreciation for sharing your stories with us and for sharing with this forum. Those stories of hope for young people, the use of technology, the ways and means that you're trying to connect people to the labour force and so on. I've just one question perhaps for our friends from Djibouti. And it's around the area of disinformation or misinformation. And have you seen any issue in Djibouti around this? Is there any way that the FAB lab or the work that you're doing is able to interact on social media to be able to spread messages that are factual to try and overcome some of the myths and some of the disinformation that is out there because that perhaps is another area where you can have a positive role. Thank you very much from Ireland. Thank you. Colleagues from Djibouti, can you respond? Online or we lost you? Yes you are. Yes, hello. First of all I'd like to thank everyone and to reply briefly to the comments from Dr Kamara. FAB lab is indeed a network and we work also with Kenya, with FAB lab in Ethiopia and in Rwanda and we share a WhatsApp group and on various social networks and so we're trying to set up events that bring together all these countries in Africa and it would really be a pleasure to work with you and to present our work to you and to share it with you by email or by other means as suits you. Now in terms of misinformation and disinformation FAB lab as a creative space is very present on the social networks in Djibouti and we've participated in various campaigns where we were trying to raise awareness amongst vulnerable people and also where we raised awareness with students at the University of Djibouti and we also went to meet young people between the age of 10, 11, 12 to share with them this passion for creation in the area of science and we're very present for young people in Djibouti and for migrants and so we've been trying to set up a community of sorts a community in Djibouti that's very present in the area of the social networks and so to conclude I think that things are going very well really. I see many things I think that we're trying to make a link with Celian, is she connected or we still have a problem? Celian you need to accept connection where I see that you are great now we can even see you, great, go ahead. Okay, I would like to add that because of what I observed the trend that most of the female migrants who travel from Nigeria to probably Libya and sometimes Europe become traffickers themselves because of their experience so in our organization we give them information that help to encourage them to know that that is not a trend that is not something they should practice because I've listened to them sometimes talk about if they had succeeded to get to their destination they would have probably by now become madams that is what they call them and so we use the information we have to discover some of these things that they have already installed in their mind some of these things that they would have loved to practice we use these informations to stop them and then we I would also like to add that we are running series of campaigns for women, women both widows young girls generally women on both COVID-19 and human trafficking and irregular migration because we observe that most of the women in rural areas do not have accurate information do not even know certain things about human trafficking do not even know certain things about COVID-19 so we visit them in those rural environments to talk about these things to give them first hand information that would help them to practice things the way they were supposed to do thank you so much Modrito thank you very comprehensive response to our colleague from Ireland now the floor is asked by the United States please go ahead thank you Mr. Chairman I was not expecting to make an intervention but I have to admit that I was so impressed with this most recent panel and hearing the stories of the migrants that I just really wanted to congratulate the speakers and particularly the FABLAB the creativity, the innovation and particularly the focus on the future we're addressing an issue that is at the heart of what we're living through but the incorporation of the youth and how we need to look to the future that is incredibly important and I just wanted to congratulate you both with the FABLAB and Djibouti but also Mrs. Assay's efforts as well thank you thank you do we have anybody else asking for the floor or here in the room or online I don't have anyone else so far on the list if no I would like to thank you to our panelists on this particular panel what is bringing the migrant voices alive that we actually listen very inspiring and intriguing presentations from both sides how to share information to avoid irregular migration both traffic and irregular migration but also how to enhance safe migration as well as how to use the modern technology in the future not only for exchanging information for networking but also as we see in the time of COVID-19 how can we use for different medical purposes as was presented by our colleague we have Mr. Mohammed online good then let's hear him and then close Mr. Mohammed yes I just wanted to do something that has already been mentioned by Belly we have a Facebook page and we provide a lot of information not just for young migrants to fight disinformation but we also give people an opportunity to understand the usefulness of our creative space so you can find our Facebook page which is you have to write that on Facebook and this will help you to see because we're there to provide information to people and also to migrant returnies and it's aimed also for young migrants who are living in the streets and it's a space that's open to everyone and we welcome everyone so I just wanted to add that to say the information is there and we're the misinformation is there and we're doing everything we can to fight it and to ensure that we cover the subject regularly and communicate directly with those who follow us to fight this misinformation so thank you very much for this wonderful day and thank you to moderator thank you to everyone it's been wonderful thank you thank you Mr. Muhammad then with the Facebook user note a space creative as actually this is the I think all of us should make a link with with this note I'm closing this panel and see you back at 3 o'clock thank you