 What they gonna do with me now? I'm still a talker in the town Tell me the sisters, I'm hooking them down Nigga love me, he never likes me I know what that was Sup Y'all, it's your girl Breanna Imani And you're tuned into another Talk of the Town interview And today, who do we got in the building? It's your girl Cleo Trapper What's up y'all? Yes, yes, so you here Welcome back to New York I know it's New York fashion week So you outside Yes, I'm outside And I know you can't stand up right now But let's just do a quick drip check What you got on? Cause you've been putting the looks together all week Thank you, thank you So let us know what you got on Right now I'm wearing some diesel shoes A little diesel bag Okay This dress is from Zava And this jacket is my bros This is vintage Paris His little, you know, brand Big brand actually A little shout out to the black businesses Exactly Okay, okay, cool So what has it been like this week? What was like New York fashion week like so far? It's been busy It's been hectic I bet Don't even get me started Because it's been messy Like, you know, like people be unprofessional It's just be a lot Oh no It's just be a lot Really, was this your first New York fashion week? No, this was my second So I'm really still learning Like for real Well, I have to give you a big shout out Cause I saw you when it's health easy But that collab you did that You look good Thank you How did that come about? How did you get involved with Telfar Clemens? Well, I've been involved with him since like I would say I went to his first like pop up In like 2017 And then like the bag started getting really popular And they had reached out to me And I'm like, oh, he be watching my stuff Like, and then he invited me to host like a Like one of their Telfar TV things That they do a lot And I was real lit So since then like we've been real connected Cause y'all been locked in since then So what's your favorite Like New York fashion week look so far Like who's been killing it for you? You mean like for me? Like just in general Well, okay We gonna start it off with you Cause it is about you So we gonna start it off with your favorite look And then I want to know like Who you think got it this week Okay My favorite look was this set that I got from Aria It was real cute It had like spikes on the sleeve It was just really cute Like it just gave all around the colors And then with my hair Was that the yellow one? No, with the yellow hair But it was a green outfit Okay, okay, okay It was so cute Oh yes, I did see that I think that was like the last picture You posted or something like that But you was given Okay All right so Who do you think got it this week? Like whose looks has just been Doing what it needed to do Santana been eating Per usual Santana been eating I was seeing him a lot on my page I don't, I don't think just I've seen Koi Koi been eating too Jada I'm gonna shout out Des too Cause Des She was putting them Looking together too for sure Definitely Let's not forget Des Cause she's been eating I just saw her yesterday And I'm like girl It was the after party Her tracks was giving Yeah, nah She really could put the looks together So I'm really not surprised It is Period So if you had to describe your style though Like how would you describe it? My style is more like a A 90s vibe I'm like a 90s early 2000s Baggy jeans Claps up I be chill But like when I pop out It pops out Yeah and I really think like You got the Y2K vibe That's what you give me Like even on your site I feel like the stuff on your site Gives me Y2K too So I mean your style is one of a kind You just one of a kind period Thank you It's good to see you outside this week Good to have you back in New York So for those who don't know Let us know like where you from Oh people be thinking I'm from Brooklyn So I gotta say that straight I'm not from Brooklyn I'm from Staten Island I'm not from Harlem I'm from Staten Island It's really crazy Cause you do not give that at all You do not give Staten Island Do you know anybody from Staten Island though? I don't So why do people People don't know anybody from Staten Island But say I don't give Staten Island Because it's like Cause not for nothing And no offense to the Staten Island people out there But I just feel like it's such an insignificant burrow That for you to have such a big personality And really be like so heavily affiliated With like everybody in the city I would not paint you as a Staten Island girl At all And again I still know what I say Cause if you don't know anybody from Staten Island You can't say that But Can't say that Who does? I'm sorry Nobody in here knows anybody from Staten Island How many people in this room know people from Staten Island He knows one person though At least she knows one person too One person You guys, fuck you But you repping them well So that's a compliment that nobody would think That you from there So what was it like growing up there though Like what is the vibe like in Staten Island? Staten Island What is that? Like it's Mars No It's cool though It's like I feel like it's like every other burrow Cause you know we got our projects I'm from Park Hill So it's like It's the hood Like you know we got the gang You got the violence You got the olac Uh huh The fire and gun violence Olac heavy shit I just feel like it's just so inconvenient Cause if you don't have a car You gotta take the ferry to the city That's just a lie The ferry is at 30 minutes I used to go to a program And um And like by the low No by SOHO at NYU And I'll take the ferry there And get on the art train And it wasn't too crazy for me like It wasn't too crazy And I was like 15 I was having a bull Honestly like But you couldn't really like Hang out too much though right Because it stopped running at a certain time I mean why the fuck would I want to be in the city man Late at 15 Cause the city is lit Well not at 15 Like I gotta go So when did you leave Staten Island What you mean like moved Cause you moved Yeah I moved like two years ago Right so you talking about 15 But we got a gap between when you was 15 And when you moved So you still could have been outside In the city you know Yeah true And it's like dang I gotta catch my ferry True but I'm not gonna lie It wasn't until I moved And started coming back Where I would come out more Cause I wasn't like I've never really been to the club and shit Out here in New York I've probably been to What's that shit called Lust I've been to that shit like one time And that was the Okay Wow To any club like You feel me So it's not till I moved to the A Like I was really outside and shit So what sparked that move for you What made you move to the A Um I wanted to Oh boy Nah okay Oh my god Nah I moved because of a nigga Oh brother Do y'all still fuck with you? No we don't We just stop fucking with each other But Okay Alright So I'm gonna save my question for after After you done I'm gonna let you speak your piece So you moved for it a girl I moved to get away from him And yeah I moved to get away from him Cause that now was really small And I didn't want to see him So everything was just like Reminded me of him This is a small place Wait hold on Hold on hold on hold on Cause you said that you I just gotta stop you Cause you said you moved to get away from him But then you just said y'all Just stop fucking with each other So What The move didn't do what it needed to do Cause y'all still Walked up fucking with each other Just take her mic She's making points I'm gonna stay quiet So you moved to get away You got there Were you happy with your decision When you got there Yes it was a good decision I'm not gonna lie Moving to there it was like One of the best decisions I ever made In my life I'm gonna be 24 so it's like My family But it was a good move Okay so do you feel Do you feel like your location Kind of like Determines how your career path goes Like do you feel like It's important to be in the right place To do what you want to do Yeah that's the fact Cause some people are like Born in places that have Shit going on And you need to go If you feel like This city is not for me There's a lot of people That feel like that For me it's just They was just born in the wrong place I'm sure cause I'm sure There's somebody out there Like Wisconsin With a whole lot of personality I want to be alive You feel me Wisconsin Don't let the Wisconsin girls Chew you First it's gonna be Staten Island Wisconsin I'm sorry y'all So what was like The biggest shock When you moved out there Cause I mean it's very Similar to New York In certain ways People is slow no shade Slow like Moving slow Slow like not over there Slow like moving slow Slow like They don't be getting The common sense The New York common sense And the southern common sense Is not the same Alright give me an example Give me a Chill Chill It's just be a lot of shit Where it's just like I boom I'm gonna give you a quick example Okay So this girl wanted to Do my hair right So she hit me up She gave me the time Da da da da I'm like okay I think I love the time She asked me what time And I was like alright And then she said some shit like I was already on my way The time was for five o'clock I'm already on my way To the place and whatever I wrote him like Oh um ETA 508 She's like oh I didn't know you was Coming still You didn't hit me up Da da da What made you think That the appointment Was just suddenly canceled And you gave me a time She's like the wig Is not even here I didn't know you was Coming still The wig not being there is The wig not being there Just means you just The wig is not Right What are you talking about Cause if you don't want to do My hair just say that Like what Wow It's just something like That was just like girl You must be a little If you thought that was like What I read something that said That you still come to New York And this was a little while ago So it might have changed But you still come to New York To get your hair done By your old stylist Is that still a thing? Yeah I do Okay see you tried You tried it It didn't work So you stuck to what you knew That's my girl But I began my hair done Down there sometimes too My girl Adley She be doing my hair Okay Shout out to her Yeah when I'm out here That's That's Yeah That's how that goes Okay okay So Walk me through like Your come up So Clear trapper We gonna start with that How did you Make your name Where did that come from Well my name came from Cleopatra obviously With a twist to it Right And that's just How that came about It was like high school We was just learning about her And I'm just like That name is Q Oh that's interesting Okay I didn't know what it was Like maybe it came from Like your real name Or something like that No No that's interesting So you just put A little twist to it Okay And so you came up With your name Was that before you Started putting stuff out Or was that like Your music Your content Or were you just Like Yeah that was before Yeah And it's always been Cleopatra facts That was before anything Interesting Cause I feel like that's a name So did you know that you Were gonna start like Doing something eventually And that's why you I mean It was my Facebook name So it's like Okay It was Cleopatra What So it's like Everybody's like Has a name on Facebook And people really will call You by your Facebook name To outside So it's like That was my name So then when did you start Making content And putting out music Like 2018 Both Yeah Okay So what was like The first video I don't know if you remember The first video that you put out But if you don't Well do you Okay I figured you wouldn't But what was the first video That really started getting Traction Where people really started The first video was The one when I was like Save me a baby father That one some I think winter It was winter From Bad Girls Club She had reposted in Like Like that was crazy Like I said When asleep And I woke up And I'm like Wait what the Everybody was sharing That she was mad Crazy Ever since then It was like Yeah To save me a baby father Really had it Cause I feel like That though Like honestly I'm 26 And I was just Talking about it One of my non-negotiables Used to be Like I don't Want to have A nigga with a kid Now as I get older It's like Damn What's going on It seemed like The good niggas All got kids at this point Exactly That's exactly what I said Retweet As Save Me a Baby Father Cause I don't know It's a lot of niggas out there That don't got kids these days So how do you Get your inspiration For like Your content Is it based on Like stuff you Going through a real time It'd be everyday life It'd be With my friends Going I mean like Bitch you know There's a video right there Like right Cause the people else to know Will not to do Cause you're around them Cause like Yeah I feel like You just be hitting on Everything that it's like We be thinking Or we have conversations about And it's just like You post the video And it's like Exactly Like you articulated perfectly But you also funny So it's like Yo I really just be Talking my shit Like I'm talking my shit Like it's like I'm talking to my friends Right And you see That's what got me caught up Cause Right there I was way too comfortable Cause I felt like me And since knew each other already And she's like Yeah I'm like She said Who are you? No name Just Ah Jane Doe Like that was my sister Wait did you just call me Jane Doe I didn't know who I am I know And she's looking at me Like I'm sorry to this man I don't know Who And I'm like Damn Damn cause in my mind We just hit We was locked in already Cause you just be hitting Everything So What has it been like for you Cause I'm sure I'm not the only one That has made that Made that little mistake I mean That wasn't It gets crazier than that girl It like What? Okay hold on You know I'm all for the examples What happened? Like what? I remember I was at Like a carnival This was probably Like two years ago now And some girl Just like I could see her coming Towards me I'm just like Nah Wait hold on She just Hugged the shit out of me Like Oh my god Like Yo I'm like Relax Let's calm down Yes I feel like That's OD The touching Like That is just An absolute little And I don't know What would Possess somebody To not Only try to Touch you But hug you Oh my god No No No No No questions as She She felt like She knew me Yeah You see But not that much That's OD So But like What does it feel like Cause it's just Like You with everybody's Like favorite Artist You like Honestly As Nikki said You really the bad bitch That all the bad bitches Fuck with Honestly Cause you with Everybody And it's like Nah This is what you Like That with everybody But that's just I feel like I just had that vibe though Like It's just a natural thing People fuck with me You feel me I don't gotta force nothing I don't even Like I don't try to be Friends with bitches I ain't gonna lie But I love that The people that I love love me Right Right So like When it comes to Like your support Like What does that look like Behind the scenes We know that you have A whole bunch of fans We know that But on a personal Tip What does that look like From the people that you hold Like close to you I get a lot of support From my family and stuff My brother I love him so much He's always supporting me Always telling me Go out or go out Or like My friends too They love me down They always supporting me Everybody Everybody in my circle Really just like They really be there for me For real Like And I love that I love that too I love that for you So when it comes to Like A little bit Like You have a lot of like Quotables Let's get the bill Per You know You just have a lot of things That like we see And we just say In everyday conversation Yeah Have you been in a situation Where like people Like say one of your lines Back to you Yes I do be You not be in that Shit all day I be in those situations All fucking day But what I love that Like I love that People just be quoting me But People be thinking That I'm like this Like a toy Like Oh say Right Relax She's not doing that And I'm telling you that Right now She's not What I'm going to look at you Like you stupid Just watch the video Yeah Like you Girl that's exactly I'm going to say You better go watch that video Oh my god So then But the other side of that Because of course People appreciate it But then There's also the people Who take what you're doing And kind of like Try to coin it And I say that Because I know earlier this year You know You in the white board There was like The SNL skit And people were saying Basically how they like Copied off of your whole thing Without giving you your credit How did you feel about that Like how do you feel about When you see stuff That you put out there And it's like People taking credit for it When you were really The creator of it I mean Shit happens I ain't gonna lie Shit happens But everybody know Who the real bitch is Like Okay so We know who's coming That's why everybody Was tagging me That's why everybody know Like as long as everybody Know I'm good like Okay So we don't really Body Yeah I'm not really Faced by it But at first I was like What the fuck But the fact That so much people Was vouching for me And going mad hard for me I was like Yeah y'all get it That's very mature of you And I think that I haven't reached That level of maturity yet For something like SNL Shout out to SNL But like I feel like That's an opportunity To not only give credit Where it's due But like as a black creator You know We need every opportunity That's a fact To like get our flowers That's a fact So it shouldn't take Somebody calling them out Or social media For you to like Get the recognition That you deserve For something that you Started So Another thing I wanted to touch on too I saw on your Off the porch interview You were talking about How you used to get bullied When you were younger How does it feel now I was going to say I was going to say Because Why what I mean I used to get bullied But I wasn't one of them People that was like You know It was given How can I explain it It's kind of the reason Why I'm so naturally funny Today Because you would talk Shit to me But I'm a roaster Shit out of you Okay And that's like That was me Like people always coming Me oh you mad black You look like a monkey Well it's Now I'm going to fry you Right You know what I'm saying But I'm just Yeah like Okay so it wasn't really On like you Yeah like Because I was going to Because I was really When I heard that I was like It's no way Because I just Could not see So I really It was like Okay Because I was like I got to ask About this Because I just Don't I can't Okay cool But is there anybody That used to like Know they try to be on you Or they try to Who are bitches Oh shit you know that shit All them bitches It's on my dick now What I bet And what should we say Do you see it into that You ignore it What I ignore that What the fuck I ignore that You look crazy As you should I don't even think Like if I was in that position I just My pride Wouldn't even let me Say one word to you I might like it Because I'm happy to see You doing your thing But just know what I did I wouldn't even I'm gonna say it's vague But Alright so we're gonna Play a little game Of course everybody Loves hearing your Thoughts on certain situations So I'm gonna give you Some scenarios And you could either Tell me what you would do In the situation Or just like What you think about it Okay So the first Is like Let's say You were fucking with a n***a He got a kid Everything is going good His baby mother A little problematic But not too much Just off the dumb Yeah So one day One day, right? So one day, he get into it with her, they going back and forth, and she like, you know what, fuck it, bring a girlfriend outside, I wanna fight her. Would you fight her? Or would you, like, what would you do in that situation? I wouldn't fight her. You would fight her. Unfortunately, that's how, that's how I'm sorry. You would fight for your man. She should not be calling me out. But she should not be calling me out. That's between y'all. Okay. Why you calling me out? It's the call now. You got something, you got starting to get to me for real, this don't even got nothing. Cause you didn't say your sister, your friend. You wouldn't even see me now. Dead ass. Okay, so what if she don't call you out and they just like beefing and she like, I wanna fight somebody, you still gonna fight for him? Yeah, who's she talking about that she wanna fight if she know that I'm dead? Who you wanna fight? Okay, I just wanted to know, like, if you would like, I'm gonna fight for him? No, it's not about fighting for him. No, I'm saying fighting on his behalf. She's saying I wanna fight somebody. Who is she talking about? You're not wrong. Cause I mean, I feel like I wanna fight somebody could really stand for anybody. But as my man, she gotta be talking about me. Yeah, but who else is there though? You ain't even mentioned. But you don't gotta be there. You don't gotta be there physically. They could be having this argument over the phone through texts, anything like that. But she just saying. If she say she wanna fight somebody, yeah, I'm gonna ask you if she wanna fight. Absolutely. Who's doing she wanna fight? All right, so the next scenario is, it's a girl that be talking mad shit about you online. Like y'all got like a little, I don't wanna say a rivalry cause you don't pay her no attention, but any chance she get to say something about you, she's gonna say something, right? So one day you scrolling on your social media and you see your friend post a story with home girl as if they cool. But it's already known that this girl be talking shit about you. And like I said, it's not a rivalry, it's just she be doing her little hate and shit on the side. What are you gonna do in that situation? I mean, I'm gonna ask my friend why she wear her. You asking? Are you cutting her off? Is it like- I'm gonna distance myself from her too. That's a fact though. I'm gonna definitely distance myself from her. But I do, I am still gonna ask like if you know the situation, why you wear her? Like what's going on? Right. Question mark, question mark, question mark. Yeah, a few question marks after that. So like in a situation like this, and this is not me being mixie, but like what did you think about, you know, how- She said this is not me being mixie. Dream and Taina, they posted the video together and everybody was like, oh, like dream fake for that because her R.E. supposedly cool. What did you think about that? If anything, I don't think, not how you say this, but I don't think. I'm gonna bring a turndle for that one. Not, honestly, I don't even know these bitches' lives for like, let's be realistic. We don't know what is going on. Like we just seeing what we seeing. Like somebody probably this or somebody that made them wanna do something or vice versa, we don't know. Yeah, we really don't. Bitches probably said mad shit behind doors. We don't know. So I ain't saying shit about that. I'm what you wanna ask sister. All right, so next situation. You meet another y'all out and everything. He say, y'all gonna go out on a date, sometimes soon. So y'all texting, the vibe is good. Everything is cope aesthetic. So y'all meet up, you looking good. You at your favorite restaurant, you order your food. He order like a little water in a side salad. But it's cool because you not tripping too much. Maybe he just not hungry. Nah, I hope he's not. So you eating, good conversation. Everything going great. You know, you hit the, let's get the bill first. Oh shit. The bill comes out, the waitress goes like this. And y'all both looking at it, right? He don't reach for it. You don't reach for it, of course. And he look at you and say, staring contest with the bill. And he look at you and say, you the one that got all the food, not me. I beg your fucking body, bitch. So he expect for you to pay the bill. What would you do in that situation? First of all, nah, that's mad fucking sick. What would you do, bitch? Yo, God forbid. God forbid, bro. I'm getting a couple of what I'm throwing that shit in his face. What's up, love? And I'm paying the bill. I'm never talking to that nigga again. Cause I'm not going to run out on the bill. You're a bum. But I'm like, I'm getting water and I'm throwing it on him. Cause how dare you? I'm serious. How dare you? I've got my brother outside. You're a wild one. That's mad crazy. So what are your thoughts on like, when you going on a date, does the nigga have to pay every time? Is it just because it's the first date? Do you ever pay? I feel like if it's the first day, you definitely going to pay. Like what the fuck? And you're going to keep paying after that. I decide to take you out for dinner. And I told you I'm going to take you out for dinner. Then I pay for the bill. If I say I'm taking you out for dinner, I'm not doing that. Like what are you talking about? Like you'll know if I'm going to treat you babes like, but you should be reaching for the bill. If you're not reaching for the bill, I will say I got this, but you reach. Right. Y'all don't really have a standard contest about who's going to take that shit. But it'll reach. So all right, hold on. He attend, but he want to go half on the bill all the time. All the time. Like the fuck? What's the new? What's the new? That's like crazy. Like what the fuck? Like I might as well date a bitch. Like I'm a lesbian. Like what the fuck? Wait, cause you got to be weak because so, is he like, he not even on the scale. He not even like a two or one. That's my broken scale, but not in a good way. That's the mad crazy. Like, if y'all watching y'all know, it's no half on the bill. Hold on. Cause she said it's not even funny. And she's dead ass. I just want y'all to know all the time. Don't forget that part of the time. Like he like, you know what? We in this together, babe. It's a 50-50 thing. All right, all right, all right. We got one to the last topic. So, damn, I hate the oldies about niggas, but you fucking, you fucking with a nigga. You know what? Cause she was about to say, you fucking period. Like, I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So you fucking with a nigga. And everything is good. Once again, you have a great relationship. Y'all haven't had sex yet or anything, but everything outside of that is good. So one day I decide, all right, time is up. Let's see what it's hitting for her. And that shit is trash. Every single, like anyway, you could think of it being trash. It is trash. I think that's what, but how long they been waiting to fuck? Let's say like, hmm, like a year. A year. That's sick. Wait a year. Cause you know, it's still, what's they doing? Kissing the death. Listen, it's still people out here that have been waiting until marriage. So a year is really nothing to some people. But let's just say clearly, it wouldn't be you just based on your reaction. But if it was, it could be me. But if it was, if we're being intimate with each other, it's going to be very fucking hard not to do something. But if we're just going to be on some cool shit, vibe, blah, blah, blah, blah, that's easy. Okay. So it's cool shit, vibe for six months. And then the other six months, you're really fucking with each other. And then y'all finally get there to sex is garbage, basura, terrible. That's crazy. Now what? What happens at that point? You said now what? Like, where do y'all go from there? Don't fuck him again. I know I'm good. I ain't got that. So, okay, don't fuck him again, but y'all still talking? Cause that's kind of hard to like- That's not hard because- No, no, no, no, no, no, hold on. Let me clarify. It's not hard to not fuck him again. Cause everybody know if you're not trying to do that- I'm gonna gradually start like moving like he's my bro. Okay. Like he's my son. Like we not even- That's your son? Like we not that. And we never going to be that. You said trash, trash. So you don't think- I'm sorry. There's no way we could go with that though. You don't think that you could like, now this is not something I think, I'm just asking you how you feel. Like you could teach a nigga like how to- But you ain't saying how it was trash. Damn. Okay, see you- Like I didn't say how it was trash, but to you, what would trash sex be? And we gonna go based on that. What would be trash to you? Trash will be little dick, no positions, just don't know what to do, just not doing it right. Uh-huh. It's just, it could be a lot of shit, plain into that shit. Can't eat pussy, right? But I feel like if a nigga could fuck right and just eat pussy trash, it's old- That's tolerable. It's tolerable, exactly. But- If you're not hitting me. No. I don't, I don't. No, nothing, nothing. I feel like even the head being fired and the sex being trash is still a no. It's still a- Invalid. Yeah. It definitely is. Like- That's what that is. So in that case, a lot of the things that you- No. A couple of things that you said could be fixed with the exception of a small dick, because there's nothing you can really do about that. Like, bitch, don't get me- Jai, I thought you was trying to say some shit, I'm like- What, a strap? But they put a strap- Wait, what? I thought- No. Y'all know Niggas know, and I'm not gonna lie, I know somebody personally, and I hope he not want- Well, I'm not saying your name, but I know somebody personally who dead ass used a strap with his bitch. Yes, I know somebody personally. That's mad crazy. It's niggas that do that. Let's say it's niggas that use it, not even like- Cause think about it, double penetration is the thing. So Niggas- He's talking about scissors. Let's scissors too, like- Let's scissors too, since you wanna do a lot. And if he watch this, I really hope he not. That's crazy. Yes, he definitely do, and he post about it on his close friends. Wait, what? That's a whole different topic. He should have kept that in the dress. But you know what? We do not kink shame. This turned into a sex podcast. Kink shame, you know, some people, they just have their things. Oh, this is not a kink shame. He- It's just a shame, because why would you do that? See, I'm gonna keep my- He needs to use the shove. I'm glad he's using that though, but I'm just surprised. Cause I thought that's what you was gonna say. Cause that's the only other option I could see if you know the Dignar where it needs to be. I personally would stick around for long enough to even get to a situation like that. For me to even help you fix that situation with getting the shove, I would have been left. Like, I'm not about to find a way. All right, so we gonna pivot to your music career, cause like you said, you've been making music since 2018. You doing your thing, you putting your shit out. I don't trap, it's a bop. Let me know like, how did that start? How the rapping start? Yeah. I always been rapping. I always will write and all that, but I got into the studio, like really started taking a serious 2018. And since then I've really been just like, you know what, like, I fuck with this shit. Like, okay, so is it something that you take serious? Cause I want you to set the record straight here. Is music, do you take music seriously? Yes, I take music very seriously. I had a, I took like a break from it because of COVID. Like, but before the pandemic and stuff, I was performing, I was doing a lot, but it really kind of slowed down. I even slowed down on it and just been like, you know, but now I'm like back in my music bag. I'm not playing with none of these pictures. Like, I'm being realistic here. This is real shit. Okay, good. Who are your like inspirations if you have any? Like, who do you look up to when it comes to music? I love Nicki, of course, for you to know that. I love Kim, Lil' Kim. And I fuck with Lilia really bad, like. Okay. Like really bad. That's my girl. But honestly, I feel like my, I can't really put like my faves and stuff into like three. Like I listen to everything. I listen to all types of music. Like I'm really like a music junkie. Like I go crazy. Like anything that is just, you know, that's I'm on it. Okay. So you said Nicki, of course, we know the Queen Mix just came out. What was your thoughts on that? The Queen Mix was fire. I thought you said some other shit. The Queen Mix was fire. That shit was mad hard. Like I'm just like, like we haven't gotten that in a while. You know what I'm saying? Just the girls going back to back on the track. I loved it. Who do you think had the best verse on there? Don't say Nicki, of course. But who do you think had the best verse on there? I like Malibu's part. I can't. I like Malibu's part. I love how Malibu's part went into Nicki's. That's why it's just sold. That was, that right there was delicious to me. It was. That served like. It did. Oh my God. That's why it was hard. I was very surprised. By Akbar. I was. Her part was fire too. Cause when we heard it for the first time, no shade, we was like. I never heard her music. So it's like, I don't know if I was supposed to be surprised. I think, but I think that's the reason why I was surprised. Because I really haven't heard her music like that. So to hear that she was on a Nicki track. It was like water. But I've always seen on social media that Nicki fuck with her. I've always seen that. But I was surprised that Nicki actually played on the store. And that's what it was. And then she ate. Shit, I feel like. She ate. And she did. I'm glad she gave her that opportunity too to shut bitches the fuck up. Cause every time you see Akbar name, you see bitches on her dick. So I'm glad she got that out the way. She got her time. You say some shit, you can't really say no shit. It's nothing to say. It's quiet and no back talk. Cause not only was she on the Nicki song, but she ate it. Like don't say nothing to her no more. No funny shit. Got her ass. And you see what she said? Cause now she got a feel of herself a little bit. She said she manifested in the Beyoncé track and Drake going to be her step. When she said her baby stepfather and her husband. Just slow down there. But she goes, shut up, shut up, shut up. Cause she released it, body that. So who are you listening to right now? Like who, when you get in the car, like who are you playing first? Get in the car. First thing I'm playing. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Damn, I listen to songs. I'ma play Doja. I love Doja. I love Doja. I love Doja. Do you consider Doja to be a rapper? Yeah, like a pop rap. Like she, I feel like she has her own look called genre. She does. She has her own, I like it. But yeah, she could, something, yeah. I think so. Pop rap, period. Yeah, she definitely, I feel like maybe she created her own lane within the rap scene. Cause she is a rapper, but like you said, she's very poppy. But we can't take away from the fact that she's dead. That's cup bars. She, her pen work, her pen definitely work. What do you think about like the music scene in New York? Is there anybody in New York you fucking wait, you listen to? I fuck with Lola Brooke. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I fuck with her. I fuck with, I fuck with the girls. The girls, we do anything. I fuck with the high school girl. You definitely do anything. You thought I was feeling you? Yeah, she's cute. I fuck with her too. What's that other girl too from the Bronx? Which one? It's a lot of them. You got Kenzo. The Kenzo girl, I like her. Yeah, we like Kenzo. Shout out to Kenzo. I like her. Yeah. I wanna see more of her. No, for sure. Okay. And what are your thoughts just on the hip hop scene in general? What are you, anything, hot takes on what you think music is like right now? I think hip hop is in a good place right now. The girls is doing what they gotta do. I feel like the bitches is going harder than the niggas. Like no shade. I don't even think that's debatable. I think that's what that is. But yeah, and I love that. No funny shade. You gotta really look at the history of being a black female in America and now and just be like, oh shit, like we really doing our thing. And I look at that shit every day just in the rooms that I be in. You know, like just the shit that I be doing. I just be thinking to myself like, niggas is really paving the way. Like no funny shit. That shit is crazy. And you know what? What I think is so interesting about you and what I really shout you out for is what you just said. Yes, being a woman in the industry, but you're also a dark skinned woman in the industry. And we know how colorism plays a big part in the way that people are kinda like shine light on the attention that they get. At least I think so. And I think that that's a popular opinion. How has that been for you? Well, for one, do you consider yourself to be a dark skinned woman? Cause I don't- What are you talking about? Listen. Fuck. And before you say that, there is a lot of confusion sometimes with like what is dark versus brown. You know what I mean? I don't wanna hear all that nonsense. I'm not even gonna lie. Listen. Cause you said, cause you said, you know what you say, you looked at me like I was crazy. I don't wanna be like, yeah, dark skinned womaness and that. You like, well actually I don't consider myself to be a dark skinned woman. But that's stupid. I feel like that. I feel like bitches that do that is kinda weird. That's kinda weird that you have to pause and be like, actually no, I'm a couple shades lighter than you think. Like, you know, you're actually sick up here. Actually I'm like a burnt caramel. Like what the fuck are you talking about? That's, I feel like that's an inner issue too. But I say all that I have to say, how has it been just being a darker skinned woman in the industry? Have you noticed anything different than, you know, your lighter skinned pears or has it just been smooth sailing? I don't hang around weirdos. So it's like, I don't be witnessing too much. You feel me? But I peep certain shit, not even just with me, but other people's situations. I look at that, I just be like, yeah, that's how she's a little darker. That's why you feel me? But I'm glad I've never been in no situation where I just feel like I feel violated because on some shit in the industry year, that would be, I will check somebody, please. You hear about that, baby. I'm not gonna lie to you, you hear about that. I mean, and you really doing your thing. And I think that's, it's also great for representation. Exactly. Because a lot of people say that they don't give opportunities to women who have darker skin and stuff. So it's good for people who wanna get out there. You know, they see people like you or like JT for example, like y'all do a y'all thing. I'm losing my voice over here. I hear it, I'm like, okay. And it's like, you know, shout out to y'all cause y'all really making it happen. So speaking of JT though, you know, you was in X for a reason, video with her, Summer Walker, that was dope. How did that come about? How did you, how did that link up happen? Well, Summer's manager, he had made a post over that, one of my friends sent it to me. He was like how he was looking for somebody to do like a video or whatever for the song. And I was like, okay, let me check it out. So he wanted me to pull up to the shoot like make a video with Summer and JT, like a TikTok or something for the song. But like the director, she had seen me and she was just like, is she gonna be in the video? And he was like, do you wanna be in the video? I'm like, put me in the video. Like, will you talk about if I wanna be in the video? Like, that's what that is now. Like, fuck the TikTok. So then I ended up just being in the video. And how was it? It was fun. It was lit. It looked like a good time. It was lit. It was fun. JT's Mad Sweets, Summer's Mad Sweets. It was a vibe. So I know that like you were in there. I also saw like Desi Banks was in there too. So I was like, okay, they got the comedian. I was dope. Do you consider yourself to be a comedian? What do you consider yourself to be? Other people will consider me to be a comedian. But honestly, if you know me, you know that's not what I am. Cause I would never do like stand up or like I'm just a naturally funny person. Like I really just be talking about shit. Like if you know me personally, like I said, you know, this is everyday me. I turned on the camera and doing the camera and just started making money from it. Like that's just what happened. Right. You feel me? And that must be like a great feeling too to just be able to make money doing like what you love to do. So, okay. So you like in your own, you're just doing your own thing. Did you see? We had an interview with Zeddy Well not too long ago and he did like brackets for comedians and you were a part of it. I don't know if you saw our brackets. So it was basically like, who do you think is funny or this person is funny? Oh, I see that. I did see it. Somebody tagged me in there. What did you think about that? I didn't think nothing. You didn't think nothing at all. You wasn't like happy. Wait, who is that? He's like a Instagram comedian. He's funny. He makes videos. He does content. And so he was saying the option he had was like you or Drew Ski, who he thought was funny. He picked you. And he said, you look good. So he was, She want me to jump up and scream, I think. I don't. It was just like, you know, cause now that was to get your recognition. And it was like what he said too. He was like, you know, the reason why he voted for you was because you just be talking. Like you be saying real shit. You look good. You know, you're doing your thing. Drew Ski funny too. So Drew Ski is very funny. Drew Ski be having me and Zed like a lot. Absolutely. But I like that though. I like that. Not that I want you to be like that. I'm not going to lie. And I was a little surprised by you too because you know, everybody loves Drew Ski. Got more followers than me type shit. But I don't think it really be about that sometimes. It don't. And that's just the impact that you have. You know. To that sound. So what is your relationship like with like the comedians? Do you link up with them ever? Do y'all? I'm not going to lie. I'm not really a collaborative person when it comes to stuff like that. I know people we seen like how comedians be linking up and doing shit. But I don't really be doing shit like that. I saw you with Tabina. Yeah. Yes, because I love Tabina. I'm like, I had to. I reached out. Oh, for real? Yeah, I reached out to Tabina. Oh, you should have done that. And that was funny. I'm like, first of all, we got it because I be seeing in his videos how he just be having the extra girls in the back. I'm like, nah, I want to be that extra girl. But you wasn't even an extra. You really grew up with them. I know we actually came up with some shit. That was good. That was good. Tabina's last funny shout out to him. What are your thoughts on the whole TikTok thing? You feeling it? Are you like? What do you mean? Like just being on TikTok, creating content on TikTok. I know a lot of your presence is heavily on Instagram. So is that your favorite platform? Do you see yourself moving over to TikTok? I be on TikTok. You be on TikTok. Yeah, but I don't be like I'll post and then get off the app. I don't really be on that shit that much. But I don't feel like there's really a need to be on TikTok that much because they don't pay me. No, I feel that. That ass. It's lit. Like you could get da-da-da-dop. But it's like the year like. I hear a lot of them. And plus TikTok ain't, let me not get into the TikTok. No, get into it, sis. I want to hear what you gotta say. I don't know too much. But I know that there was some funny shit going on with Black creators on TikTok. Oh, absolutely no. Talk about it because that definitely was and it's still a thing. So you're absolutely right. And if you're getting your money from Instagram. So what's the fucking if I'm really on TikTok? Absolutely, if it don't make money. My page is saying y'all could still get a key out of TikTok, no shame. So how is it just overall just like seeing everybody that comments on your posts, everybody that shows you love, like we talked about before, everybody fuck with you. Is there anybody that has like surprised you that like has shown you love at all throughout your career? Yeah, I'd be surprised. I'd be surprised by a lot of the people that be showing me love. Of course, Cesar was surprising, but like I feel like all the Black girls love me. So at this point, I know that if you Black and you a real bitch, you fuck with me. And that's just how that goes, that is. So for somebody who's trying to come up and they look at you for inspiration, what would be something that you would tell them, like a tip that you would give to them to kind of like get to where you are or close to where you are? I would say be yourself and stay consistent and believe in your craft. Because a lot of people, they will have it in their head. They will think about it and they hesitate on it and they just think the worst. Like you really gotta believe in yourself. Like if you don't believe in yourself, nobody else is gonna believe in you. Like you can't make people believe in you without believing in yourself first. And a lot of people be having it twisted on that. That's where it starts. You gotta really push yourself. You gotta really tell yourself, like I'ma do it. Like I'ma be there cause I believe I'ma be there. That's where it starts. So what keeps you motivated to keep posting consistently and to do that? The posting thing is literally something I cannot stop doing. People be telling me to like don't ever stop. Like that's the reason why I won't even stop cause the pictures don't want me to. And it's like I can't stop. Like you feel me like I'm always gonna have something to say. Like this is me. This is my personality. It's like there's no turn it on. You feel me. I don't have to camera on new person. No, this is me. So I'ma always do that. As long as I got a fucking fault and I don't turn into a hobo on the streets. I hope it's gonna post a fucking video. There's no reason why. Like I'm always gonna have a post. I'm always gonna post. Like that's it. So we see you indoors. We see you making your videos and stuff like that. What's your social life like outside off camera? Off camera, I love to travel. I love to go out with my friends. I love to get lit. Tell me, I'm a regular, regular girl. Like I would say I like to go shopping but I don't really like to be in malls like that. Yeah, me either. I'm a online girl. So when it comes to friends, are you like no new friends? You got the friends you got? Are you like, when you meet people now, are you still willing to have friends? Yeah, I'm open to new friends. Yeah, I'm not one of them bitches that's just like, but I can say I'm a little distant. Yeah, I'm a little, yeah, exactly. I'm very selective with my friends. You have to be. I know the vibes and shit off rip. If I don't, I'm gonna learn later on, but I'm selective with my friends and I love the group of friends that I have right now. Okay, that's good. And then when it comes to dating, what about that? What's your date of life looking like? You've been funny. I'm literally just chilling. I ain't really good. I ain't really like, not too much. I mean, I'm fucking with somebody, but like that's cool. Yeah, like that's it. Like I'm not gonna go too much into it. Like it's cool right now. Okay, so what are like things that you look for and the people that you date? I look for a nigga with a personality, a nigga with a bag, Mm-hmm, there you go. Nigga with his shit together, know what he wanna do. Mm-hmm. Cause you can't raise a man. Nice. Talk about it sis. No, that's so. I'm saying though, even if you don't have it all figured out, at least have a fucking goal. At least know what you wanna do. You know what I'm saying? Don't be fucking confused on life. Does your nigga have to make more money than you? Oh my God, I've been getting this question so much. I'm just so curious. Yo, this is the top question. Really? Yes. So what's the answer? It doesn't extend. If I'm making more money than the nigga, I don't wanna know that I'm making more money than him. Okay. You, yeah, like don't ever show me signs. I get that. Of you are struggling and need money from me. Like babe, can you cash out me $50 for a question? See that's where we get it twisted. If you start showing the signs and symptoms of me making more money than you, I don't like that. Signs and symptoms is mad funny. What about, cause you said personality, what about like, does your nigga have to be funnier or are you cool? Wait, your nigga not really being that funny. I mean, I like a nigga that's funny, but like he don't gotta be funnier than me. Like you feel what I'm saying? But I like a nigga that understand my humor though. Right. Like at least if you catch my little jokes and shit like that, I like that. But you gotta be funnier than me. Okay. We don't need you being mad fucking funny or they like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. How you say that? Okay. I'm just joking. Yeah, I'm joking. So how do you balance though, like your social life and your like career now? Oh my God. Girl, we've been talking shit change. Yeah, we all wrap this up a little bit. How do you balance your social life and your career? I mean, they kind of, it's kind of like one in the same now because people that I work with, people that I meet while working and stuff like that, it's like, they're a part of my social life and shit. But even like my friends that I grew up with and shit, I still be making time for them. But it'd be hard, you know, just to try to cheer my friends that I grew up with. But we be trying. Everybody has their own shit going on. But I'm glad that like I have other friends that are just involved in the same work that I'm in where we could be working and chilling at the same time, you know what I'm saying? Right, right, right. So when you think about like what the end goal is for you with all of this, like where would you like to see yourself ultimately? I would like to see myself in a big ass fucking mansion of fucking billionaire, lit as fuck for me. But I would say I want to get into acting. Oh, okay. I'd love to get into acting. I'll be fine. That's like something that I'm going to smooch my way in. Okay, clearly she bent back because we got a little dance to everything. Okay, so acting, have you been like trying to get into it yet? Or is it just something you don't do? I'm doing like castings and stuff. Okay. I got to get into acting classes. I just got to do that. But I, I've been getting castings here and there. Okay, that's dope. That's dope. So you say you want to live in a mansion. Like where would you want to live? I can't, you know what? Me, I feel like I can't stay in one place. So we'll be the A. So one of the places that I would get a mansion in. Okay, you would have multiple mansion. You would have multiple mansion. Right. All right, what's one of the places? Well, one of the places I'll get a crib in is LA. I'll definitely get a crib in LA, New York and Miami. But I really love to travel. Like I need to travel the world. So I won't be in any of those places that much. So you going to be lit and everything. You still going to be making music. So who would be like, okay. I know you say you don't collab a lot. But if you were to collab with somebody, like what's that collab that when you get is really like, yo, I really did this shit. Like I really, I know what you're going to say. Nikki, Nikki, Nikki. She's being meticulous. You know, I mean, hey, you never know. It could have been anybody. All right. So let us know like what you got coming up. What you working on? Right now I'm working on a single. I'm about to drop a single with a music video. And then after that, you guys should be expecting a project. Yes. Ooh, a project. A pro thing with a rollout and multiple songs. I mean, as it should. Is that this year? Is this? No, that'll be, I'm not going to give a date. That'll be soon. All right, you keeping us on our toes. But the single will be out next month. Next month. I would say next month. Is the single coming out with the video? Yes, it's coming out with the video. We're excited. I love that. Can you give us any hints? Like what kind of? I actually dropped a little snippet on my page. You guys can check it out. Okay, okay. Check out Girlfriend. It's an Avril Lavigne sample. One of my favorite fucking songs. We all love Girlfriend. We all love Girlfriend. That's one of my favorite songs. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Okay. Was there anything else that you want to talk about? I know we covered a lot, but is there anything else that you want to talk about? Clear up, set the record straight on before we wrap it up? Nothing, I got to check anybody about. Everybody's been behaving. I know how you say that. As y'all should. All right, so make sure you shout out your Instagram, your socials, so that anybody that want to tap in, that's not already tapped in, knows where to find you. You guys can find me at, I am Cleo Trappa on Instagram, type in Cleo Trappa on Apple Music Spotify and everything else is Cleo Trappa bitch. That girl, you know me. Period, thank you for stopping by. It was good to have you. And I mean, we're going to be looking out for everything else that you got coming sis. Yes, girl, as you should. All right y'all, thank you for tuning in. Thank you. Bye-bye.