 Well, anyone, I say to him, well, you're among them in a lot of candidates that are mentioned and as far as the ultimate action, I wouldn't tell you or anyone else. Well, even till the time he was leaving, he said to me, well, what would you do? I said, well, when the president offers me a thing like that, I would be a hell of a thing to turn down, especially the fellow that's in your position. I imagine what you're looking for is a place on the ticket in the future as vice president or president. If you are, this is a hell of an attractive thing to be sent into one of the most difficult countries. And if you ever worked that situation up with our old friend over there, he'd be one of the top people in the country. But he's trying to find a bird to land, whether it's in Maryland or whether it's in Illinois, you prefer to come back to Illinois and be the governor as well. A lot of people would want to. Yeah, I would think that's right. I would think that's right. You better damn sure get your best candidate if you want him. And I'm a daily man myself, first, last, and all the time. And I'm for you when you're wrong. I haven't found you wrong, but when you are, you when you need somebody, when you need somebody, you're wrong. You count Humphrey and Johnson. And you can do it in that order or Johnson and Humphrey, whichever fits in the book better. Well, the answer to it is that the reason I haven't made it, I think you'd agree with me. You wouldn't think any faster. Oh, I don't want you to. I just want to march to the fourth. I said to this fellow go back home and think it over. I assured him of nothing. I said, there's no no assurance out here. If you wanted to be considered, however, if you wanted to be considered, be prepared that you might be turned down. Well, I said, after all, we are never short. We don't have to be grown. He brought up, you know, about this thing of being away, which he has. I said, yeah, there's a lot of truth in that. Well, what we what I want you to do, I don't care. Whatever your decision is, it's mine. And I'm 100 percent part of it goes ball bounces that way. Whatever your judgment, all I want results the morning after. I don't want to I don't want to try to tell them what to do. That's that's my man. And that's what I look to you for and so forth. Now, that's what the Charleston, West Virginia paper took a poll. All the delegates and it ran about 1400 for me and I'm free and about 49 for McCarthy and about 39 for Bobby. The 39 stranglers, all of you damn fellows will put on a son of a bitch. And when you got 50 states and you only got 39 sons of bitches, that's a pretty good average. We've got more than one bastard on our delegation from Texas. But I thought the poll came out pretty good. But he has got a few of peace nicks up here in New York and he's got Slesinger up at Harvard. And he has decided that it's up to him to reclaim the Democratic Party. Now, I'll just tell you what, it'll happen. Now, just beginning with me and Hubert, I'm friend, John Connell and the rest of them. If you ever thought that they had a goddamn revolution in the party, you never would see. He's just been a little kindergarten, play Indians until this one came along. The only thing, you know, you never make any suggestions to the president. You never, the only thing I would say to you as a friend, don't let them get you too excited on this. They wouldn't, they wouldn't at all. But I just thought, look, I think that your mind opened. You see, we keep our mind open on everything. But as far as his convention is concerned, and as far as everything else, there is. But don't, I wouldn't like to see us start a counter thing to then have someone say, well, what happens in the dealings with mankind and human well, then damn it, I'll go anyhow. Because I saw that with Stevenson and I pleaded with him in 60. I said, Adelaide, you haven't got a chance. These people around are making a damn fool out of you. I said to this fellow in the telephone conversation. I said, Robert, as an older man and great respect for the former president, don't you do anything rash until I get a chance to talk to you. What do you mean by that? I said exactly what I said. Don't be a goddamn fool because I said there's a lot of people around you that just want you to stick your neck out and want to push you out because of their feelings against someone else. That's right. How long ago, how long ago, sis? This is last week, right before I went away to fish. He wanted to, he said he wanted to come out and spend some time with me and sit down and talk. I said, I'll be glad to do it, Robert. In the meantime, total up these goddamn fools around you, stick your head out. He said, what do you mean? I said, well, exactly what I said. I said, I was around in 1948. I was elected delegate for the first time and I said, some of the leaders out here were floundered around Jack Arvy and Ed Kelly. He got love and I said to them, look, I'm only a kid from the stockyards, but I'm with Truman if I'm the only goddamn delegate from Cook County. And then they called me up, they had a plan. They said, well, this is the city news girl. You know, to all your leaders are against Truman. The others have got their moves against Truman. When I got to the National Convention in Philadelphia just the first time I ever had the chance to vote, my vote is going to be cast for Truman and I'm going to carry the Illinois Bandit and the goddamn soul going to stop me from carrying the banner for Truman. And when we're on the train, they brought me into the dining room and they had a big powwow all the leaders. And they said, do you think Truman can win? I said, so look, I'm not an international or international man. I'm a little wide from the stockyards. I live with Truman and let me tell you another thing. If you thought it was or not for Truman, you were a lot of goddamn fools and you'll be out of the picture for the next four years. So I brought Ed Kelly, who was a frame-on gone, to take Kelly out as national committeeman. He was a great fellow, he did a lot of mistakes, like you and I, but he was a great guy and my loyalty to him, I never... I said, Ed, look at Mr. Merritt at the time. I said, don't be a goddamn fool. Get off the train and announce for Truman. Otherwise you won't be the national committeeman. They're framing you and they're going to try to take you tomorrow, which they were. Kelly gets off the train, he declares for Truman, goes all off, takes the paper. All these guys who were talking wondered what the hell had happened, so the next day, sure enough, it's the caucus, they come up with a candidate against the Kelly, and Kelly was unanimous the elective he was giving was for Truman. And to show you how little they thought of Harry, I put on the demonstration. I hired the band, we got the banners, brought all the kids to the farm with different Truman and as you remember, it was one time I was invited and I suppose I shouldn't have done it, but I went back to Chicago with my organization because I was loyal to them and I refused to go to breakfast with the president. I suppose I shouldn't have done that, but Adam Mosky went and then he became a great outlaw. So these are the kind of stories I'm going to tell this young man and I see him. And I think, and then I wouldn't let this other back feel, you know, back when you get too strong, we're going to do this to hell with that. Just say, look, we got a great candidate, we got a great president, that's all we say. And we don't know what he'll accept it, but goddamn it if he won't, we're going to draft him. That's good, I'll just, can I just turn that movement over to you and will you underwrite that while I do these other things? We will, but not let any of our fellows be against this, I understand that. You have the most magnanimous position which again, at times and say, I fell after all, I've taken this goddamn thing for so long, I wouldn't say it to too many people, begin to run out and say, Johnson is the candidate, then they get the ball going that way. But the idea is that we don't pay any attention to anyone else, we keep going in a positive program ourselves. And Johnson is our candidate, there isn't any doubt about it. And if he tries to get away, we'll draft him. I'll leave you in charge and I'll leave other conversations there and what? Here's Hubert Wonkseil, we're sure glad to hear your voice. Glad to talk to you, how's Meryl and the families? Just fine, you can assist our love. We're with you 100% in anyone else, our program is a positive one. That's right. Let us go out and sell it, we haven't sold it enough. That's right. I said to him a lot of those cabinet members down there making speeches that it should be more, they never tell about what they're doing. They never tell about what you've been doing for the last four years, their thing is that if it's two million it should be four billion. If it's four billion it should be eight. God damn it, they ought to get them all together and brief them and tell them, why don't we start talking about what we've done in the last couple of years? We were just talking about this here this morning. Fine, Mr. Vice President, I'll be talking. Well, Dick will be in touch. Don't say hello. All right now, bye bye. No too.