 JSA TV, the newsroom for tech and telecom professionals, and JSA Radio, the voice for tech and telecom on iHeart Radio. I'm Jamie Scott-Okatay of JSA, here at the beautiful closing reception of Tech's LA. Wrapping it up here with me is Mr. Ron Gruya, he's emerging director telecoms, what's the title? Director of emerging telecoms. I was close, director of emerging telecoms over at Frost and Sullivan. I'm actually the go-to analyst for anything in our industry, so tell us Ron, you were an amazing moderator of our last panel on cybersecurity and IoT, where were your key takeaways from it? I think first of all, thank you for the opportunity to be here, it was a great event, terrific venue and I certainly learned a lot, not just from my session, from the other sessions that you're here, you put together a quality event with some of the key speakers in the industry. I think in cybersecurity, there are quite a few interesting points, I think one was the role of service providers that they have to play to secure the, I call it the home frontier, which is definitely one that's been very prone to hacks, there's a lot of unsecured sort of vulnerability points, when you think about, for instance, baby monitors and a lot of the people that don't take the measures, like you could even set up a wireless router with a default configuration, which sometimes could be the MAC address, like I know PP Link, some of these routers, they use, very few users, they don't change, they don't bother to change the default password and allow hackers to hack into them, so I think, certainly from the panel, that was one of the things that we learned today, that the role of service providers, standardization efforts are underway, several organizations, and I think one of them that came across, which is interesting, the Metro Ethernet Forum, IEEE and others, and I think the one thing we didn't get a chance to discuss, because we got, it was a great fireside chat, but I think we didn't talk about the human element, but I think that's also important, when you talk about hacking and think of guys like Kevin Mitnick, who are trying to always do some social engineering, et cetera, but I mean, I think it was a great panel and certainly had a lot of good contributors. Thank you, and you being, of course, one of them, so we appreciate you coming. I'm excluding myself, yeah. And tell us over at Frost and Sullivan, what is the latest and greatest, what are the trends you're seeing? All right, so we're doing a lot of research these days, me personally on 5G and also STN and FV, so software defined networking and network functional virtualization. It's a tool, I guess, to enable carriers to not just virtualize, but also software defined their networks to achieve economies of scale, to dynamically scale their networks and be able to really not only derive APEC savings, but also deploy things faster, because I think to David Walsh's point in session earlier two hours, I think the time to market is a key thing. So certainly that's going to be an enabler. So that's one of the things we're looking at. I think we're also looking at value added services. So again, all the providers, it's an industry that's kind of changing itself quite a bit, rapidly commoditizing, but also very strategic to carriers. So, and we're also doing a lot of primary research. We have a custom research group that's doing quality work, getting feedback, not just from consumers, but also service providers. So quite a lot of interesting research there. Unbelievable, unbelievable. And certainly Connected Cars was a theme here. We had a co-located reception with Automobility, which I got to chat with you at. And Smart Machines coming on the rise, what it's going to do to our bandwidth. Are we able to absorb all this consumption? Yeah, well, I mean, obviously, I think we're trying to be leaders. I think our FCC chair has been pushing that to saying, you know, let's try to be more proactive on 5G to be at the forefront, which is very good. I mean, Chairman Wheeler is doing the right thing there. I think service providers are also pushing the envelope. I think CARES, certainly like Verizon and AT&T are, for the first time ever, they're conducting trials even before the spec is actually done, which is sort of unique for 5G. So I think, you know, the key is going to be also looking a millimeter wave and a new spectrum that's going to be licensed. And, you know, also, how do we make effective use of that spectrum? How do we, you know, do the densification of the network and use small cells, et cetera? So that's all going to be very interesting to watch that unfold, you know, over the next, oh, it's really, it's even happening now. But I think next year we're going to have Verizon do a fixed wireless, even commercial trial. So, you know, it's going to be exciting. But I think for wireless it's going to be more like 2020. That's, you know, summer Olympics of Tokyo. Wow, yeah, summer, wow. So actually, with that, I'd like to say you are from Toronto. That's right, that's right. I want to say I'm excited that you guys are coming to Canada and I want to help you there and look forward to having a similar event to this in Toronto or wherever else, whatever other venue you choose, looking forward to that. Thank you, Ron. Yes, we'll absolutely be leaning on you as we roll out JSA Canada. And thank you for joining us here today in LA. We will definitely see you also June 21st in New York City, Battery Park, Cipriani's Wall Street, and... Another great venue. Thank you, thank you, and hopefully in Toronto soon. So thanks again, Ron. Sure, look forward to it, thank you. And thank you viewers for tuning in to JSA TV.