 Hello Nina, I'm Tatiana, I was born in the 80s so obviously I loved the cardigans Romeo and Juliet song, I'm sure lots of people here too. A lot of parallel has made between the music industry and the restaurant industry I think also because lots of us in the restaurant business feel like we're really putting ourselves out there and saying a lot about what we think and what we feel and so since you have so much experience in that maybe you can tell us a little bit about that and how how it how that is for you. Yeah well obviously especially as a musician and especially if you're a singer then you're also you are also a person very much attached to your instrument and to your craft more than maybe a the guitar player of a band or like the we always joke about the the bass player the the people who are the quiet ones so you're whether you want it or not you're there to have something to put alongside with your music or your singing or whatever you're sort of you know you have a tool or you have a pressure to be you know have a voice as well. Yes have a voice definitely as you know having a voice is something that's quite new to the to the restaurant business I think everyone is getting quite starting to get used to it and and maybe wondering a little bit about what we can do with that voice and this has been a lot about that here what to do with our voice and what kind of message we want to diffuse and maybe you can tell us a little bit about that and how you use your voice as a platform to diffuse ideas and messages that are important to you and what those messages are. Yeah I think that food and music and art are great I always think of them as like Trojan Trojan horses where you can you know you're obviously doing something you're cooking great food or you're making music for people to listen to or you make art but you there's also there are also great vehicles for you to package messages you want to have come across with your personality whatever you think is important and what you want to change or whatever so it's good because you can do it also in a very tasteful thing because I've always I've always been a very political person for example but I have very much struggled with how to express it in music because personally I didn't find a lot of music that I liked that I thought talked about politics in an obvious way that I also thought was good art sort of so that was it was I've always sort of incorporated my viewpoints in my music but very between the lines so some people who some people might notice it and some people who wanted to find it did find it but I've also been talked about as somebody who's very apolitical which is not true I just didn't find the way to put it into my art but I but I think it's great then you do interviews and and if you and but I in the middle of that I also think that it's you you do have a fantastic platform to do to change things and to say things in a way that is the kind of I mean we all do what we do because we're terrible at expressing ourselves in other ways I always say that I am not a politician because I I can't do it I write my songs instead to to say what I you know I think that's obviously the language I know but I think it's great but when it comes to music especially and probably in in the food industry as well right now there's something where his opinions are very much in the open is almost expected from you to say something it's almost a trend right now a fantastic trend but it might pass and I think that if you you also as an artist you also have the right to remain silent because I think it is because if you start talking about something just because it should be talked about there will be no substance to it if I can see that happening to with artists who are suddenly ba-ba whatever this opinion back and forth and then it's not really founded in something necessarily but if you do have something it's fantastic to use it as a carry and do you feel like you have a responsibility as an artist I think about that issue very much because I'd now I when I was younger I saw it as a responsibility because I also found a certain amount of pressure in it but now I see it as an opportunity and right because I feel like I really I'm so happy I have this platform and this you know this what do you call it stuff at pin you know I have the microphone get to hold microphones I get to talk so I think again that's I do not in general I think I mostly come to the conclusion that I don't think that you it's your responsibility as an artist but I think it's really important to think about what you can use whatever you do even if it's not something creative I think it's a human responsibility to think about what you can do with what you do to make things better thank you that's a good message thank you very much thanks thank you