 Jaya, I thought that you have a lot of habits, practicing community kitchen gardening, learning different types of hand embroidery techniques, etc. Okay, what is this practicing community kitchen gardening? It has 106 units and while getting together at the evenings, we started discussing about growing plants in our balconies. We have a very limited space in each house. So we started discussing about growing plants. Mainly we started with a green leaf, which is the green leaf that we do this. So now we are able to grow a decent amount of vegetables in our own balcony as well as we are using the open space areas that is available in the community to plant some of the herbal plants and all that stuff. And maybe in the future we will be able to by itself produce from each other as well as if it is doing well. I find you have taken political science and international relations. Why? So international relations these days, maybe it is gaining more importance nowadays It was always important. Now India is asking to be a leader in the international arena as well. There is a reciprocation from the other countries as well. Other countries are also looking up to India. They are expecting India to play a major role in the international arena these days. So there is a proper reciprocation actually. Why are you trying that way? You are asked of which foreign service? First option is Indian foreign service. First, preference is foreign service? Yes sir. Ok, very nice. How foreign service is different from other services? Sir, when it comes to foreign services. IAS, IPS etc. Sir, if one who is working in the foreign services is acting as an ambassador who is carrying the ambitions of this country to the other countries, rest of the countries in the world itself. When we are working in the other services, we are going to work for the people of India and we are going to work according to the system that is available in the country. But when we work for Indian foreign services, we take the ambitions of our country to the other parts of the world. We are going to get mutually benefited out of that. What is an all India service and what is a central service? There are three all India services. Which are they? Indian administrative services, Indian police services and Indian forest services. And what are the central services? Apart from those three like Indian defence estates or Indian... There is no cadre. All these three have got cadders, state cadders. Where they don't have cadders, it is central services. Foreign services is which of them? Which of these? Central service or the other service? Central service or IAS? This is central service. Indian foreign service or central service? Ok. Will you tell us something on Brexit? Brexit, the United Kingdom, they were part of European Union and now they are willing to come out of the European Union. The reason stated is... What was the date? Sir? What was the date? March 31, 2019. It has already happened. 31st January this year. Only 23 days back. Ok. Tell me on Brexit. Basically United Kingdom, they wanted to strengthen their boundaries. Sir, they are not happy with so many people coming inside United Kingdom because when they are part of European Union, the people from the other European countries, the Schengen area, without passports, without visa, they can come into United Kingdom. They need not even have a work visa. That is central agreement. That is central agreement. Ok. So the United States, they don't want such a immigration to happen. Sir, they want only highly skilled labour to come into United Kingdom. So they want to strengthen their boundaries. Sir, in the first case... They called it a loss of sovereignty. Being a part of you is a loss of sovereignty. Why? Why did they call it so? UK called it, when you are members in you, we have lost a part of our sovereignty because all laws, etc. They are in Brussels. So Brussels bureaucracy was dominating. Yes, sir. What are the other points? The other questions. What are the other reasons as to why England wants to go away? Other reasons. To safeguard their job and they are not willing to give benefits to people who are coming into their country. Because if they come into their country, slowly they bring in their families as well and they also bring the extended families and they get the benefits out of it. Because country like United Kingdom, they give a universal health system as well. So the cost-wise, the NHS National Health Services. So the cost-wise, if there are so many people coming into United Kingdom, that is being a cost to the country. Why is Ireland boundary is a problem? Sir, Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland and Eastern Republic. Yes, sir. Why that is a problem? You must have read favourable times. Soft border, hard border. What are they? Last, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, they are wanting that, even though United Kingdom is coming out of Brexit, but still there should not be a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland for what they claim, sir. But I don't know the history why there is a... As per which agreement? It should not be a hard border, as per which agreement? Kingdom is asking for it, sir. Yes, have you heard of Good Friday Agreement? Good Friday Agreement. Have you heard of that? Yes, sir. That was decided. So that the border should be soft. Now what has been decided tentatively? Any goods coming from the UK to Northern Ireland, they will be free. But to Southern Ireland, if they go, then there should be... There must not be an impression that they are from other countries. That is tentatively they have agreed. Now there would be a period in which still so many things will happen, as per the old agreement. So practically it's not final. There is a tentative period by which they would settle down with everything. Okay. Okay, please. Jay Chitra. He was from Dharmapuri district. So you have not lived there? I did my schooling till then. Standard in Dharmapuri district. What was the problem in Dharmapuri district, as far as girl child is concerned? So Dharmapuri, female fetishite and female infanticide was much prevalent in Dharmapuri. So even today Dharmapuri is listed that multi-pronged approach should be taken to eradicate that female fetishite. Infanticide has been to a larger extent, it has been controlled now, sir. But female fetishite, it is still prevalent. We have taken international, political science international relation. Is globalization relevant today? About the developed countries. On the angle of developed countries, it may look like globalization is not needed anymore, sir. But in the idea of developing countries who still did not reap the benefits of globalization as like the developed countries, we still look forward to taking forward the multilateralism, sir. How do you say that for developing countries, globalization is not relevant? In fact, I feel I would say that it is more relevant to them than even developing countries. But because if you take US or UK, it looks like they are going towards protectionism concepts. They wanted to protect their domestic players and so they are imposing tariffs on the goods that are coming from the developing countries. Even they are not ready to accept some reforms that should happen in the international organizations. Because if you say United Nations are in the Security Council, they are not ready to extend the membership of permanent players in the Security Council. So it looks like they are not ready to accept the major role played by the developing countries, sir. But in countries like India and the countries that are around India, sir, we did not reap that much of benefits because we have been a market for those countries to bring in their finished goods into our markets, sir, from the developed countries. We have just provided our labour and we have just provided our raw materials, sir, and we are buying finished goods from them. So those benefits still the developing countries have not reaped out of this globalization, sir. So we are, our country like India, we are stressing that we need multilateralism, we need globalization, but it looks like the developed countries are taking a step back from it, sir. And you mean to say that these developed countries, on the other hand, the developed countries are importing most of the goods from either China or India, we say developing, or to say Bangladesh, Vietnam and other developing countries. So most of the countries in the world they are supplied with Chinese goods. So in that case, how do you say that developed countries are supplying us? In fact, it is the country like China. China is number one in supplying all goods to the, most of the developed countries. You find everywhere, US or Australia or anywhere, Europe, it is Chinese goods are flooding the market. All would buy heavy-shell and maybe non-legislative textiles or Indian, our Kyrgyzstan textiles, all these things will also be going here. So, and why they are allowing this to come? Because they are not doing any charity. Because they are able to produce it at a less expensive rate and supply them. And even at certain times in the ecological cost, environmental cost is quite heavy, especially leather and textile industries. So, it is not that, the protectionism is coming in US, protectionism is coming for job. In fact, not for the goods, it is for jobs. They want the, Donald Trump actually succeeded mainly because job for Americans. We will provide job for one again, we may come again, second term also now, saying that it is the same, like, ok. Then, you were working in private sector until 2005, 15, and you were drawing a salary of 12 lakh per annum. So, that was when I worked in London, sir. Yes. And why do you want to come to this, I think which we give you, one reason is anyways, we were not willing to get settled in London. So, we wanted to come back to India, that is one main reason. The second reason is, so the civil services as always, I was very strong in my mind that this, clearing the civil service exam and to be part of the government gives me a greater sense of achievements, that is one. And second reason is, any right action, any taken by me as an officer will have a good positive impact on so many lives of people. And third reason is, sir, I wanted to show the women that it is possible even after marriage, we should, we can keep our ambitions alive even if we get married, even if we have children or even if we feel, I mean, there are so many problems today in conceiving the child itself, sir, and people are getting into depression. So, I wanted to show people at least, women in my district that it is possible even after marriage, sir. The climate change is the problem, global problem. And the, do you mean the countries in the world are addressing it properly? How about the 2015, the Paris women? Progress card is coming on this in our Indian media. What do you feel about it? I honestly feel that the steps that are taken by the countries is not sufficient, sir, because even country like US, they are coming out, they came out of this Paris agreement and President Trump is strongly encouraging the cold thermal power plants, cold extraction and all that. So, that itself is because they have to be an example for the other countries, but still they are going in the other direction. That is one, sir. And as well, even countries like our country, we did not still invest so much. We are not doing enough research towards the renewable energy resources and all that. So, still even in our country, coal thermal power plants is being a dominant energy. Are you sure? At least till now, yes, sir. See, in fact, 67% of our energy comes from thermal power plants. So, and that was true. And I think in the last 2-3 years, it has come down to around 60%. Our aim is to reduce it to 43%. And increase the solar and wind energy, not thermal power energy. So, it is not that we are not doing anything. Our solar vision is really doing well. In fact, we have got the largest solar plant in Tamil Nadu in the cities. We are also part of the solar arrays. Not only in India, we are also promoting it in other developing countries and as a part of solar arrays. We are doing, but maybe it is not adequate for arresting what we have planned to do, that is one point side or two. But we are doing, and as you say, U.S. is from China, U.S. is from China, and the power plant in India, we have the credits. China and India are fast growing economies compared to the European policy. But Europe is doing better in this thing. But I think you have to brush up something on climate change and what we are addressing. And the problem between our Paris Agreement and WTO, some of them WTO is assembling law in achieving this. Please, please write me if you want. Okay. You were answering about Brexit. There is a school of thought which says that this is a sign of the beginning of the disintegration of European Union. Is it correct? We agree with this school of thought. I think I agree with that school of thought because even some other countries, I don't remember the countries exactly, even they are opting to come out of European Union, sir. So migration is one of the major reasons for this, sir. I agree with this. But a few years back, the strong performance of localization argued that this is a case of a crisis. We cannot go back to the 1990s. We cannot do that. And the black argument has got strengthened that there is no emergence of technology in science and technology. The world has become a global movement. So in that band, what can you say that there is some element in the school of thought which says that we are leading towards free globalization, free globalization. So actually with respect to European Union, I thought because some countries have got difference of opinion compared to European Union, like United Kingdoms, because they did not want to follow the rules of the European Union and all that. But definitely, we cannot come out of globalization because there is complex interdependence. It is not just interdependence. It is complex interdependence between countries. So we cannot go to pre-globalization. But rather than being into a particular group, countries are willing to extend their agreements with the other countries in the world. So today, compared to the importance of international organizations like WTO, countries are willing to sign free trade agreements with the other countries. So that bilateralism and regionalism, that is gaining more importance. So within European Union, there may be some countries who have difference of opinion with the European Union. But it does not mean that they wanted to come out of globalization, but it is also not possible because of the complex interdependence. Because today we have got, apart from the movement of goods, we have also got movement of labor today. Pre-globalization is not possible. But countries are trying, they are not willing to be a part of only a particular group. They are willing to extend their agreements with the other countries in the world as well, sir. Why? This is the number one choice for foreign service. Is this a child-hood dream or not? The Indian foreign services is not my child-hood dream, sir. To get into civil services and definitely being an IAS officer was my initial thought. But now, after living in London for some period, and understanding the importance of foreign relations today and... Getting into civil service was your child-hood dream. Yes, sir. But why you have wasted four years in engineering and two years in MBA? Six years you have wasted. Sir, I cannot call that a waste because any education, per se, it will definitely help me in the world that I do. Engineering, it was not my own decision, sir. It was a collective decision, sir. Family decision. It was a collective decision, sir. For what? Nothing personal. Sir, they thought even civil services was my ambition because of this uncertainty. They said I should need a all-back thing. I should be going to engineering or going to HRP. So they thought there is so much of uncertainty when getting into civil service. Also, sir, the initial periods, after my graduation, there was a need of financial support as well, sir. Why you just got into the job? If you don't mind, sir. You have not mentioned anything about your father. My father is no more, sir. What was he actually? He was into business, sir. Rise and oil business. I had a lot of... So basically in the rise mill, they get the grains from government related. So they get grains and then the husk is removed and the rice is distributed to the public distribution system. So it was... he was involved into that rise mill. Economically, it was a medium level. Yes, sir. So why am I asking this question? Don't mistake me. Because if you come from a community, just very, very little bit, yes, sir. There is very much difference between this and the personal police and the system. And the accomplishing these things, your graduation and post graduation and working in London, coming back to Sylvester Asprey, Sylvester Karawian, something like that. Sylvester is an achievement. But as a woman, as you said, after marriage and after, there has been a different delay. Okay. Are you aware of the hardships of the people? There have been a lot. Sir, as in the hardships today, for every working woman, there are hardships, sir. It can be any job, sir. It is how we balance it, sir. So also I've got a supportive husband who is into IT field. And he is also travelling to different countries because of his projects. And so we understand, having lived outside as well, I understand that we can balance it, sir. Your husband is living abroad? Yes, sir. So he travels on and off to all his projects. He is working for an Indian company, sir. But when there are projects that demands that he should go to the client for his projects, he travels, sir. You have not appeared for interview. Who attempts? All the four attempts, your choice was IF, for instance. Sir, I did not clear my prelims itself, sir. This was the first time I cleared my prelims. So this is the first time I gave my preference as well, sir. So the first time I was doing this. See, what's in view of this death sentences for rates? It is not acting as a deterrent, sir. But the capital punishment itself, if it is not acting as a deterrent, then now I'm not sure what will act as a deterrent to them, sir. So So in spite of your against death sentences, what about maybe the gravity of the crime? I'm not actually against death sentence, sir. I'm saying death sentence should act as a deterrent for the death sentence. Sir, but that is the highest punishment that is given in our play, sir. Sir, because this way or that way, see, there are some countries which have completely banned death sentences. Yes. There are 30 countries. They have banned either in law or in practice. Yes. Yes, not a significant punishment. But right now I can't think about what else can be the punishment, sir. There is a saying that it is not the severity of the punishment or the inevitability of it which prevents a crime. That means whoever commits a crime must be punished. Policemen are inevitable. It's like they say that it's not the severity of the punishment. It's the society of the punishment. That act, that only acts as a deterrent. Not the severity. What should be on this freebies culture? Freebies, I don't support that idea of giving freebies to the people, sir. Because people should read the How do you define a freebie? Tell me. He's doing bicycles to girls, children for freebies. He's a different kind of freebie. He's laptops, mixie grinders for freebies. Or is it an affirmative action? Some fall under the affirmative action, sir. Because giving a bicycle to a girl child because it is also the responsibility of the government to lay roads or give the public transport effect to public transport system, sir. So in those areas, if government is not able to fulfill those conditions they are giving those cycles to the girl children so that they can increase the strength of the girl children in the schools under the affirmative action, sir. Noon mail scheme again the objective was the same, sir. Because students who are coming from the poor background malnutrition problem and so they will not be able to concentrate in their studies and all that. And to increase the strength of the students in the school noon mail scheme was implemented, sir. So all these things fall under affirmative action but giving this mixie grinders and all I don't think it's a good idea, sir. Because because people those are some basic needs, sir. If those basic needs are filled, people are not able to think about that, sir. So people have to think about what are the policies that the government they are going to bring in if they are coming into the in case they are forming the government. What do you think this mixie grinders are also to give you the drudgery among them? Why don't you say think that it is to give you the drudgery among them? Rather than giving those mixies and grinders the government can come up with other productive policies and systems and they can help women get empowered in different ways so that women will be able to afford getting a grinder and mixie grinders. No, but still you are talking about empowerment of women. See, women who are house fight, who are home makers so they undergo a lot of drudgery and this is only part of removing some drudgery among them so that and they can't afford to buy them. So, government are giving me three to that. So, is there anything wrong in that? Sir, the intention may be to if the intention is to remove with help the women it is okay sir but it should not be a factor that covers their negatives sir, for example there is a scam on the government or something like that is discussed in the among the public but coming again and giving the 3 Bs it should not help cover all those negative things of the government. Sir, I agree through the 3 Bs it should not be given and certain things like like cycles for this world child and this even I would say grinders because it has become a necessity for every household but people can't afford it. Maybe it should be only given to those people who can't afford it. I find some kind of a contradiction in the way you have answered because one as you said that you wanted to come back to India that's why that was your intention but you seem to have given for himself as a best person. Sir, that is again I worked sir the reason I gave for myself. I think you went on a tour abroad for a year in London so now you actually want to spend your life across the series and you want to get into foreign service. Sir, it's not like that sir because even if you're working for Indian Foreign Service you're going to work for the government of India sir and today because of the relevance of India. What you said you want to come back to India but you're actually going out of India now how is it balancing here I find something is off about it. Anyway, so you have done a paper the Ramayana way Human Resource Management what Ramayana have you read? What Ramayana have I read? I did not actually read full books but I did see some of the movies made by based on that you have made a paper presentation so my paper presentation was about team compositions sir I was able to get some insights from Ramayana because the topic given was like that what are the insights that you can take from Ramayana so I did prepare a paper on team composition and got insights from Ramayana So tell him name of few Ramayana different types of Ramayana written by different authors So Valmiki Ramayana Anything else? So I can So When we were talking about Brexit Is Brexit good for any Indian companies? What about Tata? Is it good for Tata Motors or is it bad for Tata Motors So the Indian companies that are operating in United Kingdom Talk to me about Tata Motors Is it good for Tata Motors Brexit or is it bad for Tata Motors I am not sure if Tata Motors is having what kind of operation in United Kingdom But my general idea is that companies who are having what is in United Kingdom sir they are worried about whether they will be able to enter Europe And companies have started shipping the headquarters to other countries in Europe sir So What is the University of Cambridge So what is Cambridge Where is Cambridge located Cambridge is located in United Kingdom sir What is it famous for? It is not famous So when we were talking about protectionism and everything So Don't you think Gandhian thought of self-reliant villages that actually goes against the entire concept of nations globalizing with each other and becoming more and more intertwined and intermeshed, different on each other So is it thought, negating his thoughts of self-reliant villages Globalization, do you find globalization is in contradiction to Mahatma Gandhi's thoughts Yes sir It is because Mahatma Gandhi as you said he wanted the self-reliant but globalization is also advantages because it works on the principle of cost advantage if we can get something from the other countries with cost benefit why not that So then why did Gandhi want to have self-reliant villages, what was that he was very skeptical about bringing urban areas into the fold What was it? Gandhiji did not like this materialism concept he also he was against this modern nation because of that materialistic thought Okay Okay, within one minute I will say that your interview is very good you are very cheerful trying to take part in the discussion is very nice but regarding Brexit, Gibraltar is a problem Gibraltar does not want to go out of the field Scotland will one day go out of England because the Englishman do not treat them well, there is a great distrust, you must have known it they will definitely go out of this some 2-3 years back by very slim measures you can go now, again sometimes they will go, so there are no problems Okay few things one is common kitchen, gardening, shuttle badminton, this thing we already mentioned in this, so there is no time for us to ask questions on this but anyway, you prepare for the champions of national level national level I am Sahil Anaywal and this Situ and the management and garden what kind of garden do you do sir, right now we are growing mainly the green spinach varieties spinach varieties all types of spinach varieties we grow as well as the vegetables to some extent garden for nutritional gardening whatever or flower gardening see what kind of gardening you do you just put all the points on that and then common kitchen, what do you mean by that it is community kitchen as in we are in our community sir, because it is a gated community we live in, we have hundreds of units of houses in the community so together we are doing because now we are ready to even share our produce by and sell produce from each other so it is wrong to that you cook something in a week two times a three times I can take produce from my own now garden sir but community kitchen has got a different connotation language community kitchen means the whole community join together and have kitchen instead of household garden kitchen this is community kitchen gardening we do the gardening together we have community kitchen garden we do the it will be a simple unit not separate where it is we are also we have a Perumbakkam sir Perumbakkam Perumbakkam lake is full now ok also best so you have got very good potential candidate you have got everything and you have cleared this time main exam with all confidence you should go only thing is you have to brush up these items about each of these items what I mentioned the international relation any question can be asked if the sky is a little bit further but immediate thing is about globalization protectionism the visit of American president now these are the things which they will be in the memory so they can expect questions on that and why are you aspiring for civil service foreign service questions are asked you prepare a more convincing answer on this and about your hobbies you prepare the death sentence and all when questions like that are asked you can always say far and against see clearly death sentence are we competent to end life you have no right to end life so that is the way many of the countries have start death sentence they give life imprisonment for 50 years 60 years, 100 years 200 years natural age natural living years end of the life you will be in prison see in India life in sentence can be even 14 years it is not the case in many of the foreign countries that is a question of ethical question whether we have got right to end life so that is why you may have no favour or anything but for crime which is very very which are for the certain crimes still India is not now following that death sentence is the ultimate thing but it is very given only as the last resort and they have got up to Supreme Court people go and then so there are cases and all now it is there so you should relate to the other way if they ask the questions will come on okay so prepare this write down and be thorough with this and answering so your way of expression everything is good personality everything is good and the thing is this you must slightly firm up and be very very very brief and whenever you don't know the answer you just say I will so don't beat around the bush good