 Alright, Assalamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarak, welcome back to everyone to how I learned Arabic stories. Now this one is a little bit of a tricky one because we actually recorded this interview before and we are re-recording it for you guys, so insha'Allah I need you guys to pay attention because the second time that you do something it was always better. That's my school of thought, this is my opinion. I don't know about yours. So yeah welcome back, I'm with my brother Nuruddin Muhammad from the UK. So I'm going to let you introduce yourself and I'm going to let people know who you are and what you do insha'Allah. Assalamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh everyone. My full name is Muhammad Nuruddin Al-Khalawi, but people usually know me as Nuruddin. I'm originally from the UK, from Cameroon, Central African country, from a city called Duala that's actually the Economic Capital of the country. Alhamdulillah I've been living in the UK for like about nine, ten years now. I came in 2010, so yeah, about nine years. Alhamdulillah, that's just to be about myself. Okay, Alhamdulillah. So, well, first of all, where did you learn Arabic? And how long did it take you to learn Arabic? Where did I learn Arabic? In Birmingham, there's a place called the Mu'aif Center. I don't know what was happening at that time, but I think I was just looking for places to learn Arabic. And I was told there was like an advertisement for Arabic classes there, so I just went there. And I just said, Alhamdulillah, it took me about three years to complete the three Mudina books. So, before learning the Arabic language, right, before learning the Arabic language, but after you decided that you wanted to learn the Arabic language, what kept you up at night? Like eyes open, starting at the ceiling? So, like I said, being a young person coming from an African continent where ten years ago the internet was not very easily accessible. You had to go to like cafes, you know, to surf on the internet and go on social media and things like this. And social media was not even what it is today. So at that time, because we didn't have internet back then, moving to a European country where you have internet at home, you have your router and you can just go on the internet as you want. So I would just be on social media, you know, Facebook was like very, very big at that time, watching videos on YouTube and just surfing the internet and being a young person just wasting time on that. So that was what kept me up at night, just talking to friends, for example, back home, friends that I had chatting to them, talking to them and just surfing the internet, you know? Right, right, right. Okay, so what was you afraid of? Like once you decided to, you know, that you want to learn Arabic, and you found Mu'ath Center and these Arabic classes that we're about to start or whatever, what was you afraid of, like starting out? Starting to learn the Arabic language, I think is a common thing to any person who wants to learn foreign language to themselves. So for example, being, you know, making mistakes while you're speaking, you know, and being scared to be laughed at. So I think that's the biggest fear that many people will have about learning foreign language. And also, for example, French, because I speak French as well as English, to learn a language that is similar to French, for example, Spanish or Italian, that's much more easier than learning, you know, from French to Arabic, or maybe if you're an English-speaking person to learn a language like, let's say, Germany or German, that's a bit closer to English, so there's this connection. But for you to move from a complete way, even the letters are not the same, the pronunciation, words that don't even exist in French and English, so to make that move is a bit tricky and a bit anxious about it. So my biggest fear was making that move and also being scared to be laughed at or to make mistakes when you're learning the language. Yeah, it comes to my mind like scenes of times where I remember once my teacher, he said, what's the ayah? So my teacher asked me, who knows what ayah means in this ayah? So he asked me and I'm super confident. I'm like, ayah, there's no ayah in heaven. And he's like, and then the whole class started laughing at me. So for those who don't understand the joke is because, you know, hayawan is a word that basically means life, like the eternal life kind of thing. So in hayawan at the same time it means animal. But right now I can't think of, it's actually really the same. It's actually the same. Yeah, I think it's hayawan. Yeah, you're right. Hayawan. But, you know, if you put it in a context or another, it means something or it means something else. And the teacher asked, yeah, who knows what this is? And I was like, oh, confident animals. Yeah, it has to do something with animals in jannah or something. Yeah. So, okay, so what were you angry about? Not knowing Arabic, you know, what were you angry about? And actually respond to this question by telling me the three daily frustrations that you had. The three daily frustrations that I had. Not knowing Arabic. Firstly, it will be, you know, as I said, when you start practicing Islam, for example, and you start getting closer to the Deen, you want to learn more, you want to understand more of the Quran. So the first thing was about not being able to understand the text of Islam by yourself. So the Quran and Sunnah. You know, you've been very amazed when people are crying, Taraweeh, for example, or people are crying in classes or maybe in the khadbah, because they speak in Arabic and you don't understand it. Or someone understands a joke, you know, or understands an expression which you don't and you're baffled like, what's going on? I didn't get that. So, not being able to understand the source of Islam, the Quran and Sunnah, that was one of them, you know, that you wanted to understand it for yourself. The second thing I would say, not being able to understand the scholars, the scholars of Islam, where they're given classes in Arabic and there's so much knowledge out there which you don't have the key to, because Arabic is actually the key to the scholars and understanding and being a student of knowledge and excelling in that. So that was the second thing. And the third thing would be just perhaps day-to-day conversations and dialogue with people that learn that new Arabic, you know. For example, as well, going maybe in holidays, when you go to opera or Hajj and you get ripped off, you know, or maybe when you go to Morocco or Egypt and the guys just throw prices at you they might be speaking, you know, him speaking to his colleague about increasing the price, but you don't know what Ziyad means or Noxman and you don't know where he's talking about. Or maybe you have a guide, a guide who is like, you know, in business with the merchant, he's selling him, okay, increase the price. So I get some of it. So if you club dialer, oh yeah, guys, he's trying to rip me off, you know. But if you can't understand the language, then you get ripped off very badly. So those were three reasons I would say. Sometimes that's what they test you. Like knowing Arabic or not knowing Arabic, it could mean a big difference in what you should pay for something. Yeah, a big difference, a big difference. You know, because sometimes they'd be like, for example, in Egypt, they might just come next to you and be like, Assalamu alaikum, bi hur. And just expect to see what you're gonna say. Like, do you understand, do you not understand? And when you be like, oh yeah, that's a shame. I can't rip him off. So that's crazy, man. Okay, would you say that you were angry at someone, not knowing Arabic? Now, everything I mentioned was, I think, pertain to myself, you know. Those were my own short comments. So being angry at someone else, I wouldn't really say that in Africa, where I come from, we don't really have this zeal and this passion for learning Arabic, for example. So people don't really know that. So I can't really blame other people for it. I can only blame myself for not learning it sooner. No, definitely. So from learning Arabic, what was this, like secretly, what was the thing that you desired the most out of, you know, the fact of you wanting to learn Arabic? Well, I secretly desired the most. Again, connected to, I would say the scholars. Because in the UK, we have, Alhamdulillah, we have conferences going on, the scholars from Saudi Arabia or Kuwait, they come sometimes for conferences and they give classes. So one of the things, one of the things that I really wanted to do was being able to ask them questions by myself, you know. Or being in the class and the sheikhs, you know, he just says something in Arabic and you're like, ah, yeah, I know it, you know. And people can see you, they're like, oh, yes, who's that young brother? He knows Arabic, you know. And then people start talking to you at the end of class, what did you learn? How long did it take you? And you're like, amazing, did you see? Black brother came to the UK and he learned Arabic. How was that? So people will, people will sometimes assume that I knew Arabic from back home, you know. Places like Senegal, for example, or Mali, where it's like that, El. So they apply that same way to other countries. When Cameroon is mainly Christian, a Christian country, so there's only 25% of it. So we don't have that connection to El. So when you tell to them, I learned it here in the UK, I did three years, Alhamdulillah, can speak, you're like, oh, Subhanallah, Masha'Allah. So that was the secret kind of thing. And as I said, being able to ask your questions to scholars, even if you have personal questions, questions that you don't want someone else to translate for you, you can just grab them and ask them a question, you know. That was a, that was a, yeah. It's funny that you mentioned that because it's true that a lot of, a lot of, like just in general in the West, you know, brothers or sisters with African backgrounds, they are perceived like their success is perceived as like, like he's African, that's normal. Yeah, he's African, that's normal. You know, not knowing that sometimes you put the work in yourself and there's some countries in Africa that are not all like that. North Africa, West Africa, yeah, you have Elm there. Maybe East Africa as well, you know, Somalia and these kind of places. Yeah, you have Elm there. If you go to Sub-Saharan Africa, to Sub-Saharan Africa, that's a bit more, that's a bit more hard, Cameroon and we're going down Congo and this place, Gabon, for example, there's less Elm there and there's more Kofa and more non-Muslims. It's funny because just before you, I was interviewing a sister and the sister is, is like from the United States, but her parents are Nigerian, right? And she memorized Quran. So after the interview, I was talking to someone, I told the person about the sister and she memorized Quran and they directly asked me, where is she from? I said, United States. She's not, but she's African, right? I was like, yeah. If she has something like that, she got to be African, kind of thing. Yeah, alas. You know, I memorized the Quran in the West, that's all, man. Okay, so for you, what was the turning point that made you say, okay, I need to learn Arabic now? The turning point. You know, being a young brother, he was trying to practice the Deen and you have to understand, imagine if the Arabic language is always connected to the Deen, practicing the Deen and the scholars and, you know, it has that connection. I don't think if I didn't stop practice Islam or practice Islam in a more serious way, I don't think I would have learned Arabic. So the turning point for me was when I wanted to start to, I wanted to apply to the Islamic University of Medina. So, and as you know, in Medina, at the university, they have a Tia program, but then you want to be smarter, basically, you know, not get there and not waste time or take Tia long in the language program. Or even if you do go to the language program, you'll be the best of your class because you have some bases. And you can always focus on the classes in the Masjid, sit in the scholars memorizing Quran, Mosa and Mutun, for example. So you have the advantage, you have the advantage, you know, compared to a person who just went to Jamia and started learning Arabic there, you have that advantage, you know, that you can just crack that. So that was the turning point for me when I was like, okay, I need to apply for the Jamia, I need to go study, and I want to do this, but I need that advantage. And as you know, the scholars say you cannot, you have to benefit from what is on the ground. You know, you have to, even the scholars of Hadith, for example, they will narrow it and take Hadith from the people that were in their cities before moving out. You have the scholars of other countries and cities. So I had to get serious about it right now. And also, when you go to classes, you always said, guys, you know, like I will study Bursama, always says to us, guys, Arabic, Arabic, Arabic, Arabic is the key, Arabic is the key. Learn Arabic. Enroll to Arabic class and Quran class. These are the two things that he often advises, you know, also. So, alhamdulillah, you know, we took that on board and that was like, okay, I need to do this. And hopefully, you know, I have that advantage, you know, above many people that go to the Jamia, you know, alhamdulillah. So it was a little bit like, gradually kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so what was the method you used again? We did the well-known Medina books. You have to know, you know, the Medina books at the university are different from what we have here. Here, we just have the book called, Durus-ul-Lugat-ul-Arabiya, La Ghayr-una Taqina Biha. Yeah. So that's just one part of the actual curriculum that they go to in Medina. So we just call them here, the Benina books. So there's the book one, the book two, and the book three. So that's what we took about, yeah, three years and a half to complete all of that. That was the method. Now, in the actual classes, now in the actual classes, the sheikh, for example, in book one, there's a lot of vocab, there's a lot of vocabulary. So being tested about what is the name of this, what's the name of that in Arabic, bed, pen, bag, and so on and so forth. And also, you would have like small texts as well to analyze them, to extract all the vocabularies from them. And then you have some ground rules, you know, hadadika, you know, and half jarum, and these things in the texts as well. So yeah, that was basically what we do. Now, in the second book, there's even more of that. There's more vocab, there's more grammar. And in the third book, that's where, you know, you're basically, the Arabic is very strong. We go through verb forms and you start, you know, analyzing essays and answering questions about the essay, about the text, I mean. And yeah, that was basically what we do. So would you say that learning the Arabic language is important, the type of teacher that you have, or is it more important, the book that you're learning? I think it has to be a combination of both. And it has to be, you have to check why you learn the Arabic language. So just to touch upon that, for example, mainly in the West, you know, from my knowledge, people either do the Beninah books or they do Al-Arabiyah Ben-Aidek. So with the Beninah books, the Beninah books are more focused to a person also to learn Arabic, to learn knowledge or to seek knowledge. That's what the point of the book is for, generally. Now, Al-Arabiyah Ben-Aidek, there's more conversation. So that's more for a person who's learning Arabic as a language, wanting to talk with people. But that's not the thing to the middle book. So when you have that purpose, if you're learning Arabic because of knowledge, because you want to study Islam, then I think the minimum will be very good. If you're learning Arabic because you want to conversate or go, you know, holidays and just get a little, you know, quick Arabic kind of thing. You learn the Al-Arabiyah Ben-Aidek. I don't know if they have like rules and things, this kind of thing in those books, but I was told that, you know, it's more for people who learn Arabic as a language rather than learn Arabic for the Dean and, you know, that kind of thing. So that's for the book. And that's concerning the purpose that you have. Why you learn Arabic? Secondly, you have to have a good teacher, you know. You have to get, and this is what we know from the scrolls of the past and present, that you must have a good teacher, you know, because as you know, the teacher is going to affect you and affect your progress, you know. For me, for example, I had a very, very good teacher. I can't even complain. Alhamdulillah, the teacher and him, as a person, he was different as well. So he's a revert from Brazil who went to the Islamic University. Mashallah. So a Brazilian man who went to the Jamia and actually studied with the author of the Benina books. No. You have the whole standard. Yes, Sheikh Abrahman, he studied with him, you know. So, Sheikh Abrahman is the one who actually made the Arabic program. Like, he's the one who set up the Arabic program for the new students. Alhamdulillah, I have that. Very nice, you know. She's me and the teacher and the one who made the Benina with La Elham. So, I think, and his method was very nice. La Elham was, you know, I'm very, very thankful to the person. Alhamdulillah, we're still in contact. Sometimes we speak, yeah. I would say it's a combination of the book, the teacher and also your own efforts. So the book can be nice. The book can be excellent. The teacher can be the best teacher you can ever have. But if you don't put your own work into it, you can't really rip off much of the fridge. Definitely. So, what was your feelings like, you know, while learning Arabic from the first book to the second to the third? What was the feelings like? Satisfaction, I would say. Satisfaction. Where, you know, you come to the point where, Alhamdulillah, you don't need subtitles anymore. You know, you can grab many of what is said in the books. You can open the book and, you know, get a grasp of it. You open the Qur'an and you're reading, okay. So, satisfaction, that's at the end, right? Say that again. So, the feeling of satisfaction is at the end, right? I wouldn't say that. I think it's throughout your learning. It's in your process. So, the more you learn, the more you find out, yeah, you're improving. The more you open the Qur'an and you can read it and you can understand some of it. You can open books of Hadith, for example, and read it. You can go on YouTube and, you know, kind of you can pick on some words and some sentences, some benefits from the scholars, you know, here and there. So, the more you do it, the more you practice, the more you listen to it, then you just get, you know, kind of a way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. That's how I see the feeling of satisfaction, you know. Okay, so how many, how moments do you guys have throughout the process? And I think I've been asking this to UK brothers and it seems like they don't understand the, you know, the saying, but I think it's an American saying. When they say a aha moment, it's like when you, when you come across something, you'll be like, aha, like, so this is this or this is that, you know what I mean? Aha moment, okay, aha moment. Right now, the only thing I can think of is in the form, so the verb form, for example, so in the book number 12, the Arabic language, and books, no, no, the Medina books, at the end of the third book, that's where you start learning about verb forms, you know. So, aha moment was more like a, like, so, like, you know, when you discover how verbs of the, how words are derived from root words. So, you say, for example, you see, for example, laib, or laiba, you like to play, and you say, maybe mal'ab, that's where it comes from, you know, or maybe the haba, mal'ab, the haab, you know, these connections that you have, you know, that every single word in the Arabic language goes back to a root word where you extract it from, and you make other, you know, things. For example, in the Arabic language, I think there's this rule of every, like, if you have a verb, to make a place out of it, for example, sajada, okay, sajada, the verb to make sujood, for example, now you have masjid, you have a meme, so that meme, basically, you know, denotes a place. Yeah. So, many words that have a meme in front of them, places, mal'ab, masjid, mustashfa, ma'tar, you know, mustausaf, and other places like this, so, when you start grabbing these rules about wasbhanallah, when it's this meme, it could be a place, this was like, maha moment, you know. Yeah, I know what you mean now. And even the other round, where you you're taught a word, and you basically track it backwards to the whole word of it. And now you understand the meaning. Exactly. So, these connections are a little bit between the words, that's what makes Arabic language rich and beautiful. That's what we keep, personally. This is why experts, they say that the Arabic language is so easy to learn, because every time you learn a word, on average, you know the meaning of 60 more words. So, for example, if you learn the meaning of la'iba, you now pretty much understand lu'aba, mal'ab, tala'ub, you know, and all of these words that comes from the root. So, this is why, this was one of my aha moments as well. Like, once I understood this, that you have it, and this was when our teacher started to teach us how to look for, how to use the Arabic to Arabic dictionary. You know, to look for the roots of the words and everything. So, once I found out this, I was like, okay, so everything is about memorizing root words, basically. Yeah, yeah. All the verbs with three, three letters, basically. Three letters, yeah. So, that was, that was, that was amazing. Every time, like me teaching the Arabic language, I've been like, wow, this is crazy. I recorded a lesson or something. I've been like, swahallah. But, yeah, so aha moments. All right, so, what was the main books that you, the books that you, that you had on a daily basis, you know, that you always had with you? Or the books that always served you throughout your learning of the Arabic language? Honestly, I would say, you know, even though Allah blessed me with learning the Arabic, you know, like that, I would say I was a very, very lazy learner, very, very lazy learner. So, the teacher will always say things like, get your vocab on point, memorize the vocab, but I would never do it. I would never really memorize the words like that. And that's why even today, I'm sitting for a week in my vocab, you know. I don't, you know, not learning a lot of words because at the end of the day, learning the language is all about learning the more words you have, the more you can swap them around, the more you can use them. So, I didn't really have a book that I would just study the book that we had in the classes, and that was it. That was all I would do, you know. Extra work, and this kind of thing, I don't want extra work, I don't want to do it. And that was enough for me with Allah, you know, for other people, they have to like put the work in, they have to like, you know, revise all the time, do the homework, do this, do that. So, I was at the top of my class without even making that much effort, you know. And I don't even have a book like that. Yeah. Okay, so what I'm going to do right now, I'm going to do like, like Mufti said to you, I'm going to fry you, I'm going to fry you right now because when you were saying, when you were saying, you know, like, me, what I've learned is Arabian headache, you know what I mean. So, when you were saying like, you know, I have been told that it's more like for people who, you know, who are just looking for a conversation. But in reality, in reality, Arabian headache, why do I think it's the best method of learning a language is because you actually learning the language. And I think with, you know, with my little experience that I have seen different programs and my wife having graduated, one of, well, not one, the first American western graduating from Alibana Institute, the known institute in Egypt, I have seen that, you know, it's so nice, so known and everything, but sometimes the most simple things are the things that work the best, you know what I mean. So, Al-Arabi ibn Adiq is good and I think it serve the purpose of learning the Arabic language because you actually learn the Arabic language. You know, the lessons are like, are like, you know, by subjects, for example, a second and you know, okay. Yeah, so you actually learn the language, you know what I'm saying. And for me, from the experience that I have, as you know, you know, I speak French myself but it's a learned language like I have actually learned in English as well, it's a learned language as well. And even a few days ago I was talking to my wife and I hear my children obviously my children take the knowledge from my wife, my wife she's English-speaking native but myself is learned, so there's many words that my children say that I don't even know you know what I mean, but that doesn't remove the fact that I am fluent in Arabic. Okay, okay, I see. So why is that is because I actually learned the language by daily vocabulary kind of thing, you know what I mean. So this is why I think that when brothers go ahead and learn books, like because there is many marakis in for example Ibanah or Furqan and books like Al-Madinah and stuff like this they have this methodology of learning the language for for the deen, but in reality it's no learning the language on a deen context because you cannot learn a language and start learning like you know, like what you know, words in fiqh for example and words in the in the kutub of Shirkul Islam-e-Taymi and stuff like this, you know, like that, you know what I'm saying. So I just wanted to fry you there in the future. To be honest, I can I understand that, but you have to remember the Arabic books of Medina are different here, you know, the ones that we have here and I don't know if I said it before but the ones that we have here is just one part of the actual Arabic program, you see. So I think, I think maybe okay, the Al-Arabian it combines all of them, but the thing is the books that we have is only about is only the grammar part, then you have Qihwar and you have Kitaba and and these kind of things and other parts of the Arabic language of the book, but that's in Medina though in the UK we don't really have that we only have the part about the grammar those parts are missing, you know if we had that, Medina would be much better than Al-Arabia No, I don't believe that as well and I'm a reviewer right now with factual facts because in Egypt, we had brothers from Medina University coming in summertime to better their their Arabic coming from Medina now now and they were super surprised about the level of like one year in Arabic and you will see the interview with the sister that I did before she studied six months, Al-Arabia, Medina and we were convinced and I said you know what I mean so I think and I will stick to my opinion that Al-Arabia I think is way better and another fact as well is that in Egypt they are just known for knowing how to teach the Arabic and just in general even Al-Azhar in Al-Azhar when I was in Kulia Sharia I went to I was invited by one of the brothers of Medina University to sleep in his room and stuff and he was showing me his he was on his third year of Kulia Al-Hadeeth and he showed me what were they doing and I was on my first year of Kulia to Sharia and I even and the things that I was doing on my first year is the same thing he was doing on his third year of Kulia Al-Hadeeth so you know shout out to Egypt and the teachers in Egypt and their methods okay so so yeah so okay so right now this is a new thing that I have been doing with this with these interviews that I started with the sister actually for those who are watching right now if you didn't see that interview go back and see it but I would like for people to rate in the comments from 1 to 10 our level of conversation in Arabic so the next question that I'm going to ask you is going to be in Arabic okay okay so Inshallah the answer is easy and I think you are in this you only studied in in a group but the question is do you prefer private studies or studies in a group actually I was asked a brother this question and I said to him I prefer to study in a group because to be with the teacher that's not how you teach that's not our way I thought it would be better to be with the group and talk to them and talk and talk to them so I prefer this in a group and I know that in Egypt some people you are the only one I don't like this I prefer to be with the group and talk to them with you this is the answer thank God now let me ask you rate your Arabic conversational skills from 1 to 10 without being humble for me for myself without being humble I would say 7 to 8 7 to 8 7 to 8 and like I said my vocab is still very weak my vocab is not really there and as you said that's the thing we learn in the Medina books because in Arabic and I'm going to agree with that although I'm biased you have a lot of vocab you learn how to do it that's one of the strong things that I learned in that way but thank God at the end of the day I think my conversation in Arabic he just came from just listening to Arabic language and just listening to scholars and catching up words from the Quran for example the more you read Arabic, you listen to Arabic there's someone that you're going to catch up so I will give you a 7 or 8 as I said, it's very easy for me to go to the scholar and ask him my question and ask him these kind of things it's pretty easy to go to Shamsi and say Shamsi, come on come on love is done Tayyiba so what do you think it was the hardest thing of the hardest part of learning Arabic I would say it would depend because learning the Arabic language has different different sections if I may say the speaking part the writing part, the reading part and then there's a conversation as well so speaking the hardest part I think it would be learning the grammar the grammar how to when is the word Majroor Maksoor and these kind of things basically Arab I would say Arab is like the chunk of it we're not even getting into Balaga and this kind of thing that's something else I'm sorry about basic Arab I think this is how we learn the Arabic in the west people don't usually go into Balaga and Shi'ara and these kind of things it's just another level I think the hardest part for me was the Arabic that's like the math of the Arabic language yeah and even then it comes with Riyadh it comes with practicing again and you just get a grab of it Arabic was definitely yeah how of an impact has had learning the Arabic language now that you have it and how is your life different again all connected to you you've been able to understand the Quran even better going back to the sources the actual sources, no translation independence you've been your own man you don't have to constantly attend English classes you just go back to school check what they said no translation some people need translation you just have to be independent you just have to like I want to know what does Allah say here why is He saying this what does He mean by that what the scholars said by themselves what are the explanations they gave to this text so I think the major thing the major impact was being independent and not relying on other people for my own journey about learning yeah that's something that that is a true blessing because for people for example who I don't know they might have old parents they might not be able to travel or whatever it might be so as we were talking before the Rus they have the Rus live from Al-Madinah or even big playlists of I don't know Sharho Sunnah for example and you just go through it and study at home it's the key as long as you have the key you have that that's it you can start your own studies your own past you don't have to rely on that's the best thing so what would be your last advice for the person that knows and acknowledges the importance of learning the Arabic language and He wants to learn it basically but like we said there is always a time frame in between you knowing and acknowledging the importance of learning until you actually decide to find something actively to start learning so for the person who is in that particular situation what would you advise them so the first thing I'm going to say is you have to recognize the importance of the Arabic language because if you don't know the importance of something you cannot go into it and you have to remember the statements of the Sahaba and scholars of the past for example he said the revelation came into Arabic he also said that the language of the people of Jannah is going to be Arabic so when he listened to these things he was given the development he was very eloquent in the Arabic language so when you know about the importance of the Arabic language that is going to help you and for example I heard this thing about they will refuse and you know be very very hard on a person who spoke a different language in the Masjid and Arabic they had to speak Arabic in the Masjid so they were scared that someone else come outside and speak Persian or Roman language in the Masjid because of the sacredness of the Masjid they were only allowed Arabic in the Masjid and I think that could be an opinion of one of the Maliki schools or something like that that in a Masjid Arabic some people could say the khutbah can only be in Arabic that again shows you that the Arabic language it has a dramatic effect for the scholars of Fiqh to say the khutbah the khutbah which is the main gathering of the Muslims in the week it can only be in Arabic you have to understand for me that the Arabic language is up there so that said recognize the importance that the Arabic language is in the Deen and even if it was a non-Muslim for example I think the same thing so this for a Muslim a non-Muslim learning the Arabic language again you open those for you you all know right now in the world the Arab countries there is dough there, there is money there so for you to have this kind of contact there as well the Arabic language as the people of the past non-Muslims in the past for them to have the keys to enter the Arab lands and learn mathematics and physics and these sciences they had to learn the Arabic language because everything was in Arabic so non-Muslims practicing and non-practicing you have to understand that the Arabic language is just something that is rich and other languages are much more poor the Arabic language is the Egyptian no doubt about it recognize the importance of the language second thing is I would say get a good teacher and this is what our sensei he always tells get the teacher you have to have a good teacher someone that is going to mentor you and check your process that is going to be dedicated not even dedicated but they will give you time and they will encourage you to study and they have to be qualified not just any teacher, a qualified teacher someone who learns the Arabic language themselves they can tell you the mistake they did so you don't do them as well so get a good teacher and for yourself just do it just start doing it and just go for it you are always going to make mistakes you are going to be laughed at you are going to make very ugly mistakes in the language the only thing I would say is learn Arabic language just as a child learns Arabic I am talking about an Arabic speaking child the way they learn Arabic how do they do it they learn poems as I told you last time I said look at this if you go on YouTube there is this very nice song it was nice the letters so on and so forth these are the songs that children we listen to to know the words a word that starts with alif we listen to these things we don't know how to listen to I don't know mad music in Arabic I am talking about simple rhymes if you want about Arabic language just go step by step you can't just jump into and big books of the language you have to recognize that in the Arabic language you are a baby you are a little child in the Arabic language you might be a grown man grown man with a beard in the language you are a child this is how a child learns Arabic language or any other language watching cartoons if you want very beneficial watching cartoons or watching the news for example picking up on these small words and practicing as well practice makes perfect man you can't learn the Arabic language and you never speak Arabic you never try to speak it you have to practice it day to day these words speaking them those will be my main advice for a person and also get a good dictionary very nice you have to have a good dictionary and I personally would advise anyone to get the hands via hands via dictionary show us the dictionary real quick if you have it around let me check this is definitely my this is the dictionary I call it the dictionary not just the dictionary that's the name the hands via dictionary of modern Arabic modern Arabic modern Arabic I would definitely say this is the best dictionary for me and again because it goes back to learning the Arabic language through root words root words that's what the basic is when you know the root word it tells you something about the root word and then it derives it goes into the revisions about as we said when there's a meme before it there's a place there's this and when there's that letter added to it the form changes and so on and so forth I would say this is the best for me this is the best of the hands hands via hands via you are really like a German hands via hands via hands via so this is the dictionary that I would advise anyone to get but again it's not for everyone so a person who is scared to learn Arabic with the root words because it's always hard but to be honest it's very easy you know so get a good dictionary and learn your vocab that's the mistake I did make sure you pack up make sure you have thousands of words make sure if you can memorize the dictionary this is not a very additional that people will use for example I don't know what the word is I forgot the word but this is not a convention yeah this is not a convention dictionary if you see the word in Arabic just in English or from English Arabic here is the root word so get a simple additional that's a bit simple even if you want to memorize the whole dictionary this means that that means that you memorize those words entirely as long as your vocab is tight and strong you're never going to be out of words to use that's the thing for me by a brother his name was Saeed he studied here in Mauritania and he told me this in 2013 and he told me about a woman in the village where he was studying who memorized the whole Lisan al Arab check this out since that day I was like oh my god I want to go to Mauritania man Lisan al Arab encyclopedia wow and Lisan al Arab it's not even like that's the dictionary of someone who is very high in Arabic where is that people don't even use nowadays you're not going to use nowadays because you find it in Lisan al Arab that's what he says that's the actual name of the book Lisan al Arab the actual language get a dictionary and do your vocab as many words as you can that would be my advice Alhamdulillah Alhamdulillah we got to the end of this interview we ran out of time it's actually about to be iftar in like 3 minutes here 3 minutes? we still have 30 minutes here bro you still have how much? 30 minutes? yeah 15 about 15-20 minutes Alhamdulillah so yeah thank you to everyone for tuning in and watching and as you guys know I have an online program to learn Arabic you can check it out down below the study case that I've named how I went fluent in Arabic in 10 months with one single book in one hour per day so you guys can check that out in the description below is where you will find the YouTube channel of the brother Nuruddin and all the links basically where you can find him so peace be upon you peace