 But the thing that comes with artists, man, is are you comfortable with thinking on a longer time span and saying, hey, I'm a pop in this specific space that I don't necessarily want to do for my career. Maybe I want to incorporate some rock, neo-soul elements that was something that she was talking about into my stuff and figure out how to fuse them cleanly. Right now, this is some straight Alicia Keys shit, right? I'm in that spot and coming up down that path. And I'm just going to go as big as I can down that path. And then, hey, man, I'm rich. I'm winning. I got a fan base and things are going good. Then I'm going to try to hit them with this fusion and figure myself out and see if I can take them there. That's not a bad look. That's actually oftentimes the best way to do it. Like the highest probability of taking something unique and introducing it to a marketplace, especially music, is that route, right? Yeah, that's what all the SoundCloud rappers do. All of them. All of the biggest ones, right? That's what they do, they captain that space. And then as soon as they got the base, they all flip the different shit. Exactly. Yeah. But many artists aren't comfortable with that idea. Yeah. Right. It makes it maybe feel like more of a job or creatively restricting, which oftentimes a job might do for them if it's not just whatever I want and wherever or whatever I'm feeling and the inspiration that comes from it. Right. But that is the job of the industry. You are an entertainer, right? And it is a job itself. So I get that that you might want to delay everything based on the development of yourself and the sound and it being perfect. So and I so I could 100 percent get that route. But on the side of understanding how difficult it is to get a moment. Exactly. For real moment. Exactly. Momentum, the shit that you cannot buy. Always tell artists you cannot buy momentum. Record labels cannot buy momentum. No, that's why they find momentum and then try to get ownership of that momentum, because I could put a meal behind something and it cannot stick. Yeah, I can't force it. I could increase the likelihood by putting more money into it, more resources. But if it don't go, it don't go. That's the thing about this music shit. So understanding that how hard that is to do. Yeah, I would probably try to advise personally. Let's stick with this thing. All right. And just cap and get your visibility. And look at at at worst. You made some money and you dig. No, you got some success. You got a cool story to tell your friends and family. Remember that time? I was viral for like five months. You know, that clip when Ray Daniels was like, Hey, Nick, if you want to rap, then rap. Yeah, like this is the music business. But you want to rap, go on them up. I could call it a rap like that whole thing, right? Now I look at it that way, too. All right. If you want to be in this music business, right? Just the business of things. Of course, ideally you have your perfect sound that you want for yourself. And then you can capitalize off of that. That's the artist ideal situation. Exploit who you are to 100 percent. But the other situation is, look, if you really are doing this as an artist, artist, and it's because you want to do do it in that way, maybe you just creating music for yourself and putting it, you know, on the on the USB drive, the tarot, like whatever that is, that should be good, right? Or you can perform for small audiences or you build this big fan base and it's not going to hit on a pop scale or your main fan base. But, you know, you want to do this intimate show, you can still get that off. Yeah. All right. Matter of fact, you have more space to get that off because you have a, you know, a better life, right? You have more freedom in your life, right? But it comes from you doing this thing. So sometimes my personal issue that comes with artists and this goes from either popping with a sound that's not yours or not the ideal sound like that you want to be at. I get like not going like, oh, I'm a gold country. Even though I'm a hip hop artist and I get that type of extremity, but not popping, whether it's popping with an imperfect sound by your nature or not becoming a YouTuber or any kind of content creator, popping in any kind of way. My issue with that is right now, your alternative is this job that you hate. What is your other path? I don't understand like, well, why don't at least have some level of freedom especially like, oh, you're funny. People look like D.C. Young Fly is one of those dudes. He can rap and sing his ass off. I was forgetting. Yeah. Yeah, he was doing that early on. But oh, this music got popping. I mean, not this music. Just this comedy got popping, you know, and maybe the way things are going. Maybe the full breath of the music is it meant for, you know what I mean? Like God meant this comedy thing for him. Or maybe he brings it back and he does something official. Jamie Foxx was one of those dudes. Always wanted to do like the music was his first verse. But acting worked out acting worked out the way it is. And he got to get it how you live. And I gave him resources and things he would strategically throw all them parties with Kaya and Jay-Z and Missy. All them stories he tells like and bring all those people in around and had a studio in his house and try to get some of them to record with him and do a little experience. He would strategically do that and he could only do that because his resources that he got from being an actor, the cloud he got from being an actor and comedian. And then worked himself way back into music that way. Right. And his music career still isn't technically anywhere near his acting career or the height of what his comedy is. It's not. But it's so high. And that's what makes Jamie Foxx like one of the like just. I'm like a jam guy here, bro. That's what makes him a fucking alien. Because his music career is very, very high on a general scale. Matter of fact, let me take a quick second to say, if you're an artist trying to blow your music up or if you're a manager, a music professional in general, trying to help an artist blow their music up, I have something that's a game changer for you and it's completely free. As you may know, we've helped multiple artists go from zero to hundreds of thousands of streams. We've helped multiple artists go from hundreds of thousands to millions of streams, chart on Billboard, GoViral, all of that stuff. And we've now made the way we've branded multiple artists and helped them go viral completely free step by step in Brandman Network. All you have to do is check out brandmannetwork.com. You apply. It's completely free. But the thing is, we're not going to let everybody in forever. So the faster you apply, the better your chance of getting accepted. Brandmannetwork.com. Check it out. Back to the video. Just to know, let's see what his monthly listeners are. I feel like that would be interesting. I feel like it's at least seven million. You think at least seven million? At least seven. He got he got some hits. That's that's a legit number. Let's see. Modify, Jamie. If you pop it up, let me know what he pops up. There we go. Jamie has three point nine point nine. But when's the last time he dropped something? She may like what, three years ago? Like, seriously, four years ago, maybe. And we know how little time he's at. He's had like that hot, hot moment already. So yeah, Slow Jump, City Jores, Blame It. So I mean, Stream is Blame It. Oh, you know what? This don't count, though, because his shit was before streaming. Yeah, exactly. So this really don't even count to have three point nine and not really even have a moment and push and drop shit after streaming like that. And it should come in from the majority of these three songs. That's that's good. His numbers are still stupid. His numbers are still stupid. But you have to judge it on that scale. This was pretty streaming when you got it in terms of looking at it seriously. But yeah, OK, I see he dropped something in relation to that movie. I haven't watched that vampire movie yet. Have you have you watched it? No, man. My grandma told me it wasn't that great. And I trust my grandmother's opinion when it comes to movies. It looks like a good bad movie or like, you know, you put that shit on during the daytime while you like, I don't know, cooking or just doing something else at the same time. But but yeah, the moments are so hard to come by. You got a cap when they come. Yeah, I mean, how many times we we've seen that with clients, we were like, we wish you were just powered through this shit. Yes, I can think of at least like five different instances. And that becomes my thing with it is, like I was saying earlier, all of this is new. So it's going to be a long time before you experience these things and really feel comfortable with it. And so I look at it like, do you are you OK with learning on the fly? Because I think a lot of times ours kind of have this idea in the head where it's like, hey, I need to be perfect. I need to be this way for me to really take advantage of it. But it's like, one, you don't know if that's just perfect to you, but you don't know if it's going to hit the way you need to hit. And then two, brother, to figure this shit out now. And if you write, then you'll be better for the situation you're planning on. And if you're wrong and you fall out the game, it doesn't matter anyway. You know what I'm saying? Like either way, it doesn't matter. You got a cool story to tell and you can kind of keep it pushing. And so that becomes my thing with it, because whenever we have clients that are to us, that will always be the perspective that comes with all like, this is cool. I'm having this moment. Let me get this right before we really cap. And we're like, when is that going to happen? Oh, it should be about a month, like a month. But you might have five days to be honest with you. Exactly. You might have five days max. A week from now, you're going to say some shit. The media are going to turn that way. And just like that, we don't forgot about you and don't care anymore. But I know the last thing I'll say on that is still it requires discernment. And this is what what why the value of like a great manager and just team around you comes in handy because how do you identify that moment that you can't get that you can't buy versus this is just an opportunity. Right. Because all the artists that we know successful and not successful have probably turned something down. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Right. And the very, very successful have turned many things out. So it's not like you're eating up every single opportunity that comes and say, oh, I'll never get this opportunity again. Timing is it really matters. And maybe I need to do it not off of this random thing that just popped because of my relationship. I need to do it because I'm about to come out with a project and bring attention to it. Right. So I'm not going to do this radio interview this week. I'm going to do it six months from now when I actually have something to talk about. Like little things like that, they matter. And figuring and being able to discern is this a moment moment or is this. Yeah, like I said, I guess an opportunity. That's the best way. But yeah, I said, one of the coldest quotes I heard on something like that was like one of the hardest things about growing as a business is saying no to things that could be a good look. Oh, you're like, damn, this shit could this shit here. But this is moving like this for me. I got to let it go. Right. That's where people mess up. Right. Because like it's that effort. Distribution and understanding. So yeah, I could go over here and make this quick hundred K faster than I've made a hundred K before. Or I can take that same effort and it might take two times as long and make a meal. Right. An additional meal just in that same space. But most people don't have the discipline and long term thinking to be able to get themselves from like hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle. Oh, there's a lot. Oh, there's a lot. Oh, there's a lot. But a lot of that comes in for lack of faith in them. So like it's like a faith or lack of like a discipline, lack of understanding how much work that understanding that it actually takes to hit that level. Right. And now that energy you just put over there just extended the time span for this main space that you just left to make that money. Yeah. But and you keep on going back over there because you're like, oh, I didn't do it yet. Oh, I didn't do it yet. And now you might just completely missed that window to ever hit that next level in that first thing you just left because it's taken too long or you've beaten yourself into like lack of stamina. So yeah, that it's again, this is why it is so advantageous to have great advisors and like people around you, because how do you know that and recognize that when there's not the person around that can tell you that. Yeah. And it's your first time going through it. And it's your first time going through it. You don't click. You can't sniff with that. You know, this is this is part of why we had some problems with like college students working for us. And I was just like, hey, bro, these people don't live too much life. And right now it's cut. I mean, they haven't lived enough. It's coming easy. And they and when we're in that moment, like they don't understand, Nicky, you can't just make these moments. Yeah. I need you to work, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like you up there, oh, I'm going to do this. And then I'm going to I'm going to stop the yard and then I'm going to like do this and I'm going to go on my dates and you understand, though, this is double downtime because once we get to that next level, we're on that next level. And sometimes it's five levels, 10 levels that you can go up in that moment. And once you're there, you're there. So you put in that work, you might not go to sleep for a couple of weeks or whatever, you know? But then once you're there, you're there. It's not going to wait on you. Yeah. You know? So that's again, that's part of you put that even if it's a business opportunity, you turn this shit down because of what's in front of you and the opportunity you have. Then some people don't have an opportunity that is worth doing that for them. And that I understand. That's a whole other game. But like and subscribe, people, like and subscribe. Please do it and put anything in the comments. If y'all if something y'all like what we say, if something you disagree with, then go ahead and put it there. Put it there and I can see if I disagree with it with what you saying. You know, your disagreement. But yeah, for real, like comment. And if you're new to this, subscribe, we really appreciate y'all.