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All the studies were either athletic performance and that's it and then if there was a study on exercise, it was done on cardio. That was just how they did it. So doctors never recommended it. The only advice you would get around resistance training for health came from people who actually work in the space and say actually it's a superior way of working out for all these reasons. Well, anyway, studies are piling up now, right? So it's been like the last five years and we called it and I told you guys, I feel like there's gonna be a, that's why I named the book The Resistance Training Revolution. I feel like it's gonna happen regardless that people are gonna start paying attention. Well, studies are coming out. They did a huge study on resistance training versus cardio for fat loss and it was a long study. So it actually tracked, I think, 100,000 people over six years. So it's a long time. It's a big study. And these were all active people but some of them chose cardio as their form of exercise and others showed resistance training. And the average was two days a week of resistance training and the average for cardio was two or three days a week of cardio. So it was pretty similar. And what they found was that resistance training was connected to better outcomes for fat loss and for health. So in that long, six years, over a six year period, they found it to be, and we know this, right? They found it to be superior for fat loss and for health in comparison to what's typically the form of exercise that people are referred to for those things, which is cardio. Do you think we're really close to being like on normal cable television scene? It's in five years. I'll give it about five years before you really start to see it be promoted that way. Then there was another study that came out on strength training and cognitive function. And what they found was, across the board, improvements in cognitive function. Now they found in the past that just exercising in general improves cognitive function, but this particular study showed that there's a probably, it leans towards a better effect with resistance training. And my theory is that because muscle is so insulin sensitive, that in one of the, there's a strong connection between insulin resistance and dementia and Alzheimer's, that that may be why resistance training is so good for brain function. So there's another study. So now we're having studies showing it's great for range of motion, injury prevention, heart disease, fat loss, brain function, hormone balance, like in men testosterone, women estrogen and progesterone. We're getting close to the point where that becomes, this becomes the main form of exercise that people are recommending. It'd be great if that all kind of found its way back into the school system and they focus more on resistance training instead of just, walking around the track and doing aimless movement. Give it 20 years. The school system gets like ridiculous. Mainstream advice is like takes 10 years, right? And then add another 20 for school. Yeah, but to that point and in terms of it being popular, like don't you think that they'll probably try to make whatever machine that does it all, like the Bowflex kind of a situation, like that might have a resurgence. Like it's like the one stop shop for resistance training. It'll cost taxpayers so much money when you could just buy like dumbbells. Exactly, you just buy that, but it's like you gotta be educated. But it's still, I tell you what, I was having this conversation with my son. We were talking about, he has now, I don't know what class it is, but they were talking about nutrition. So we're talking about macronutrients, how they affect the body. And he goes, yeah, he goes, saturated fat just clogs your arteries. And I said, mm-hmm. So we're having this conversation. I'm like, it's way more complex than that. And no, it sounds like they're teaching you outdated information. And so my son's like debating me because he learned from us, whatever, his teacher. I said, no, here's how it actually works. So they're still backwards. They're still totally backwards with the stuff that they teach. Just that they got everything else really well though. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of the high schools, I wanted to talk to you, Justin. So I went to my nephew, he's a freshman at Sierra, which is Tom Brady's high school. And we went and watched him play his first game. Dude, the systems they have in place there are crazy. So, and what I mean by that is like how they can track the kids and how much effort that they're putting towards like practice. Really? Oh yeah. So they have like- They got money there. Yeah. Right, so they track like when they show up to practice, how long, like statistically, how many plays they make during practice, everything's videoed and then uploaded online so then the kids can access and then study film and then they can track through their IP address how much time this do. So here you come to practice on Wednesday and I say, oh man, Justin spent two hours studying film in the last two days. And then you've got, you know, the other kid is the slack off who spent a whole total five minutes or no time studying film. And they actually weigh that into like- Really? Yeah. Or they can just leave it on at home. See, we have a lot of that like access. So Huddle is like what all the coaches use now and the kids and they all kind of are able to have access to the videos and be able to watch like upcoming teams and kind of break down tendencies. But a lot of times these teams are stingy with the film that they upload. And so like, for instance, we're going in this weekend and the team, the head coach didn't want to give us any film, like gave us like something from like two years ago. And it's like, dude, really? Like, come on. Like we're about to give him like 18 film of like our recent, even our jamboree. And like we haven't been able to play the first two weeks because of this whole COVID stuff that I didn't even know if I updated you guys on all this debacle. But I mean, I've had to self quarantine for like 10 days because of the district's policy as a coach even. And so one of the kids had exposure at school. And so the policy is like even if you have exposure and you test negative, you have to then you're out for 10 days regardless. So you can't play football. You can't do any extracurricular activity but you can go to school, which is kind of hilarious to me. Like, how does that make any sense? You can go sit in classrooms and close out. Inside, you know, with every single other kid but you can't go out on an open field in the sun and play a sport. And so anyway, so we lost like one of our best players because their parents were so pissed off with this whole thing. And so like transferred over to like a rival school. Oh no. And so anyways, like there's just been one thing after the next. So a lot of our volunteer coaches are gone now. They can't come back because unless they become hired by the school, which is what I had to do. Now all of a sudden I am an employee of the school. Oh really? Just so you guys know. I'm taking on two jobs. I think we have a clause in your contract actually. I don't think you could do that. I don't think there's no moonlighting here. Listen, I'm moonlighting. I'm being up and honest about it. You don't remember the contract? We split your salary now. Yeah. So you don't work there? Yeah. So just so that way, now I gotta be tested like twice a week and then anyway. So it's just, it's been a complete headache for this whole season. We've missed two of our first games, which now we moved one for the buy week. We're able to kind of play them again during the buy week. So we save that one. But dude, poor kids, man. Like it's just been a rough start. A lot of stuff that they do doesn't make sense. Did you guys see, I don't remember where it was big wrestling tournaments or whatever. It might have been college. The rules were that the kids wrestling can't, before the match they shake hands. Not allowed to shake hands. Would you go and wrestle with them? They're wrestling. Does that make any sense at all? There's so much, it's so illogical. What the fuck? It's like, it would be like you're shooting a porn. Hey guys, everybody, cause of COVID, no kissing. Okay, everything else is fine though. You just bang each other, it doesn't matter. But no, don't let your lips touch your lips. You can kiss her butthole, but don't kiss her face. Fine, with policies that make sense. But the ones that don't, it's just like, oh, I'm gonna slap you. Super frustrating. All right, well I'm gonna talk about some fun stuff just to change the mood a little. I was, this weekend was the annual sauce making. Yeah, that's how you guys turned us down. We invited all you guys to the beach and nobody showed up and your excuse was sauce canning. I gotta do it. I gotta do it. So every, you know what's funny? Courtney made something up for me. I don't even know what it was. She's like, yes, the dude's honey-do list. Tell him something. No, you know what's funny with the internet? You're seeing a lot of people now share videos and pictures of their families making sauce, which is kind of cool. So now it's like, people are aware of it. Cause when I was a kid, nobody, I'd tell my friends, they'd be like, you do what? Like you guys get together and make sauce. Like that doesn't make any sense. Oh, we make it a sauce. But I see people sharing it all over Instagram now, which is kind of cool. Cause it's like I said, it's a big thing. But we all got together and we did, I think we did like 800 pounds, which is not a lot for us. We've done as much as 2000 pounds of tomatoes, but we did 800 pounds of tomatoes and we finished it all in one day. You guys getting lazy now or what's the deal? No, it's because, so the family, as it grows, people start to have kids and then their kids, right? And so then you can't possibly have everybody together. It's just too many people. So we tend to break up now, right? So this was my mom's family and her kids, my aunt and her kids. And then, and I think that was it. Yeah, that was it. So we all got together. But if you include my other aunts, my uncle, then it's just way too many people. Are they now doing their own sauce? Yeah, they'll do their own. Okay, so you guys just divided it up. Yeah, so we get together, but the kids get involved, right? So my daughter's outside cutting tomatoes, my son's inside. And so the way it works is like, my dad will go buy all the tomatoes and then he'll bring them back. So everything's ready in the garage. There's like a setup where you have to first cook the sliced tomatoes, then you put them in this machine. You stuff them in the machine. It spits out the sauce, spits out the skins. Then you take the sauce and then you put them in jars, you boil it and it's this whole process. And then when you're outside, you wash the tomatoes, cut them. So all the kids are like helping. I got my little nephew who's six years old and he's, I'll show you guys pictures and stuff. He's like squatting down. He's like washing, you know, he's not really helping. He thinks he's helping, right? He's washing every once in a while, throwing at me. And I'm like, Frankie, don't throw tomatoes. I mean, you gotta help, okay? Are there, you know, are there rules? They're like family, because it's a tradition that's been going for so long as there like expectations or rules by the family. Oh, we started this time. People claim certain jobs. Yeah, yeah. Like have you guys built like rules around this? Maybe unsaid ones, right? So when it comes to the heavy lifting, the washing, the cutting, that's usually me or my dad will be out there. Although now my dad manages more than doing that kind of stuff. When it comes to like the jarring of the tomatoes, that's usually my mom and then the kids will help with the machine because it's kind of easy. Like you sit in front of the machine, you just kind of stuff the tomatoes down or you sit outside with me. And then like I said, like my little nephew, Frankie was helping me wash the tomatoes. After about three hours though, he was a little squirrelly. I'm like, we gotta hire your family to come over. I don't know if I told you, we got like a orchard of different like fruit trees in our backyard. Yeah, like all these like everything from pears, apples, grapes, like you name it, dude. It's like, I was like, what do we do with all this stuff? And you have to like, you have to get rid of it. Otherwise like the tree falls over, dies. Oh. You know? So you have to like continually harvest it and like prune it and stuff. And I'm like, oh my God. You can hire somebody for do out to do out. For sure. You have to figure that out. Well, so here's what's funny, right? So I get there and, you know, Ned has the hemp oil and capsules and my dad's been using it and he loves it. He loves it for his back. He says it makes him feel good. His pain is good. So I get a bottle of it and I bring it over there to my mom and my mom, she takes it and like she kind of like hides it. I'm like, what are you doing? She's like, well, you know, it's like, mom, it's not weed. It's hemp, you know? It's the way she's treating it like she's like, and she's like, I like it. I'm like, what are you, so my mom's using it. I'm like, what do you mean you like it? And she goes, you know, I feel really good when I take it at night. Take it and your dad and I and you know, we watch TV together and we hang out a little bit. You're like, that's enough information, mom. Kind of piss me in the mood. Yeah, okay, but it was funny the way she did. I'm like, it's hemp. It's not weed. You need to hide the bottle of the net. But she likes it. She said it helps her with her, like she's got anxiety. So it helps her with anxiety. And then my dad with his back. So now they're both, you know, hemp oil. Now what of Ned's products, which one do you personally use the most? I like, so I like Melo a lot. That one's really good. Yeah, but what do you, what are you most consistent of all the, all their products? Honestly, the old school hemp oil. I go back to that all the time. I love, I just, it's really, you feel really good. You just feel, you actually feel it. I don't know if you guys, have you guys used other CBD type products? You don't feel them. No. You take them and you don't notice anything. What about you, Justin? What are you? Well, I was using the sleep. Yeah, you use the sleep a lot. Yeah, but then I kind of stopped cause there's, you can actually overdo it. And I have, and the next day I was just like, so groggy, you know, but like you get the right amount. It totally works. And I, I love it for if I've, my mind's racing and I have just like a constant couple of days where I've just been trying to hammer things out. And I'm just, I'm like all just, you know, crazy energy. And so it just helps me to just get knocked out and recharged. But then Melo for me has been a lot more manageable in terms of like continually using it and then being able to kind of chill out and then, you know, get ready for sleep. It's been helping. Well, Melo doesn't work with the cannabinoid receptors. So it's just, you know, it's those forms of magnesium, a little bit of GABA. The hemp oil obviously has all the cannabinoids in there, including CBD, you know, CBG, CBC and all the other ones, minus the THC. And when it comes to the cannabinoid receptors, they can start to change how they're regulated. So they can down-regulate or up-regulate. So yeah, you could take, consistently take lots of cannabinoids and like not unlike caffeine, you'll find that your tolerance, you know, will start to build. So that's just, but for people who, so cannabinoid deficiency syndrome is something that they're starting to research. That's a thing? Yes. So they're, well, they're researching it because they find, there's definitely people who have tremendous benefit from supplementing with phyto cannabinoids, cannabinoids from plants and they just notice this huge benefit. And these are the same people that tend to suffer from a little bit of anxiety or they'll have pain or, you know, their mood's a little off. And basically what it is, is that their bodies may not be producing adequate amounts of, for whatever reason, endocannabinoids. So they call that cannabinoid deficiency syndrome. And in that case, then taking a regular supplement probably would benefit. Now, do you believe the opposite is true or is there some people that are just non-responders to it and don't feel like they get any benefit whatsoever? I'm sure there is. There's always an individual variance kind of with everything. So anyway, I want, oh, here's something I want to ask you guys about. You know, you guys ever get calls where, I'm sure you do, where people are, they're scammers and they're starting to get really smart? That's what, we're getting that a lot right now. Right now, right? In text messages too. That's crazy. Every day I'm now getting at least two to four of these, and it's everything from UPS to tax to Wells Fargo to AT&T or phone, Walmart, Amazon. I get a text from one of them all the time about, oh, you have this package, whatever, it says to get you to click on it. They're really smart. So what they're starting to do, and I'll tell you the last one in a second, my buddy showed me and I thought it was freaking brilliant and hilarious at the same time, what they're trying to do now is they're almost like they're targeting people, not specific people, because I'm sure they blanket this out, but they're targeting people who already are probably a little bit paranoid with certain situations. So I'll give you one example that happened a while ago to a buddy of mine. I don't want to call him out because that make fun of him to this day, but he got called, he got a phone call saying it was from the IRS. And they said, hey, you owe this much. We know that you lied on your taxes. There's a huge fine. If you pay it right now, then we're okay. We'll settle it. If you don't, we're gonna do an auto. Now, because this guy that I know did a little bit of lying on his taxes, he's already freaked out. And so he actually went and paid them. And then later on found out he got scammed, which is hilarious. They're like, yeah, go down and get a cashier's check. Yes. I'm like, bro, the IRS. Gift cards. That's what we take at the IRS. And they threatened to take him to jail. I'm like, bro, the IRS doesn't call you like that. They're not gonna take you to jail over it. They don't do any homie hookups. So he got ripped off, but the reason why I fell for it was because he's already kind of, right. Okay, so here's the latest one. I thought this was so brilliant. I took a picture of it because I'm like this, I could see how some people would totally fall for this. So here's the scam. He gets a text from random number. Just received a call. Oh, he just received a call from US Customs. So this is him telling me, apparently I have a load of drugs that is sitting down south and I need to contact them. So here's what they did. They called them and said, hey, we caught a package of yours down here and it's contraband. And you're not gonna get it. And here's what we need to do. So obviously if you're somebody that's waiting for drugs, you're shitting your pants and you're probably gonna do what they tell you to do. So he's laughing because he's like, the fuck out of here. That's how my Katrina's mom and I were talking about it. She's getting it. And my theory is they're just sitting them out by the tens of thousands. And there's gotta be a percentage of those people that just happen to be stressing about their taxes. Or that they got some drugs. You know, imagine if that was you. It's sophisticated. I think Courtney got one where, yeah, they said something was off at the bank and then it leads you, like it has a whole link that looks like somethingchase.com, you know, slash whatever. And then it directs you to this total fake chase web. But it looks real. It looks exactly the same. Yeah, it's designed for you to put your password in. Yeah, and then it started to ask her for Social Security and I was like, and she's like, Social Security. And so that's where finally she got tipped off. But they almost got her. I'm like, no, don't do it. I got one from Instagram. I got a DM and the page literally was Instagram. It said Instagram on it. And they DM me and said, hey, your account looks like it's getting hacked. Please log in, change your password. And I knew it was bullshit, but I just want to see what it looked like. I clicked on the link and it looks like an Instagram page. And then what you do is you go to log in. Of course, now you give them your password and they go in and they fuck with your shit. I wonder how much this has increased in social media. You think it's like quadrupled it? Oh yeah, tons. You know what, the scamming's changed though. Remember that documentary you watched, the scam rapper or whatever? Oh yeah. I feel like now you get people to voluntarily give you their money. So it's such a gray area, I'm so sure, to try and catch these people or punish them. It's like, that guy told that story of how he pretends like he's a hot chick and then he gets someone to buy a plane ticket. It's like, I didn't steal your credit card, you willingly bought it. And they're like ashamed that they wouldn't do it. And so they won't pursue any kind of- Totally. So I wonder how much of this is really going on right now if it's way worse than it's ever been. That's one of the number one strategies, is that you get somebody to do something that they'd be ashamed of, so they'll never report you. It's like when a stripper would take someone's credit card, charge them way the hell up and the dude's not gonna go fight because he's like- Just wanna get back to his wife. Yeah, I don't wanna go back and try and fight. And even if it's not crazy like that, just knowing that you willingly gave your money out for a scam, you feel kind of like an idiot. So even if it's not something- You just chalk it up. Yeah, you're just like, fuck, I should've known about it, so I don't do anything. Yeah, so when I get calls like that, if I have the time, what I like to do is I like to just keep them on the phone forever. And I've done this in front of my kids before. So I'll play along and then I'll be like, hold on a second, let me go get my credit card and I'll put them on hold and then we'll go do something and I'll give them 10 minutes, I'll come back on. What did you need again? And then just do it for a while and then eventually they- Oh, I was on the phone with a Comcast guy forever. We were dying laughing because I don't know but he'd said like the same thing over and over and over again. He's like, excellent, perfect, perfect, excellent, excellent, perfect, perfect, excellent. Excellent, perfect, sir, excellent. I was still working on it, still working on it. And he kept me on the phone. I'm like, you'd be a lot more effective if you just shut the fuck up and did your little thing in search. Instead of saying, yes, excellent, perfect, yes, yes, sir, yes, Comcast, great, yes, excellent, perfect. And then I brought the kids to listen, they're dying laughing and we're just like, yes, excellent, perfect. And we just like repeat it back to him. Poor guy, probably the only job he's ever had. He was really excited and I'm just shitting all over him. He's doing the best job that he can. Did you guys see the news? I think in Australia, they are starting these, what they call, well camps or wellness camps. Quarantine camp. Yes. Is this real? Yeah, so there's a segment. I can't remember part of Australia. Queensland, I think. Yeah, and if you have COVID, now I don't know if they force you but I think they do, then they take you to a wellness camp for quarantine and you have to go. Yeah. So it's only gonna be a couple days, I swear. Yeah. I know. Well, here's another one. Scary dude. They passed a bill, so I just saw, people send me this kind of stuff, right? Because they know kind of my positions or whatever. So they passed a bill and I gotta find, oh, here you go. So here's, it's called the Australian Criminal Intelligent Commission and there's a new power, there's three new powers that they've given police. So now they have what's called a data disruption warrant. It gives the police the ability to disrupt data by modifying, copying, adding, or deleting your social media and whatever. So now they have the power to do that. Wow. There's also a network activity warrant which allows the police to collect intelligence from devices or networks that are used or that are used or likely to be used by those subject to the warrant. So now they can go in and pretend to be you and start collecting shit and they can also take over all of your social media. And they wonder why we're so resistant about lockdowns here. Yeah. Look at what that can do. And then here's another one. So people are sending me this. So this is somewhere in Australia but if you come back from a particular area, you're obviously, you have to do what's called a 14 day quarantine but they have this app that you download and on this app, this app has geolocation on it that at any moment they can text you. So, and this is how it works. You have this app. Okay, I'm supposed to be quarantined for 14 days. I can't go anywhere. The police will randomly text you and within 15 minutes, you have to send them a picture of yourself where you're at and it has to match the geolocation. If it doesn't, then they'll send police out to come looking for you. Sounds like some helicopter parents. Dude, this is wild. That's crazy. That's so bad. That is wild dude. That's a little scary. Have you heard from anybody from Australia and your DMs? I haven't heard from anybody in social media from... Well, you know, we have a lot of listeners over there. And I remember it was like all the time I'd hear from them and now nothing. No, I get DMs. I have, there's a lot of people that don't like it and then there's some people that support it. But I don't... How can you support that? There's gotta be a lot of people that support it if this stuff gets passed and goes through, right? I mean, enough to where, I guess they're not afraid to pass this kind of stuff. I mean, they're not a dictatorship over there, right? So, I mean, if there's, I mean, people are voting, voting it in in a green. I don't know. They don't have the same kind of protections that we necessarily have over here, although things can get crazy here too. The problem is, is it's, typically things move with a slow boil. And then before, by the time you're like, wait a minute, this can't happen. I need to speak out. Whoa, this got out of hand. Now they have the power to take over your media and you can't speak out and you can't organize and that kind of stuff. Throw you in some camps, lock you up. Yeah, or the other thing is that when things are over, they typically don't go away. For example, we passed the Patriot Act and NDAA after September 11th. That's never going away, you know? The war on terror, is it ever gonna be over? Did either one of you guys watch that, the Netflix documentary on 9-11 yet? No. I know it's on the top 10 right now. It's going viral. I don't know. I was gonna watch it last night, but I ended up watching Billions instead. Was that good? I know, you and Doug are so excited about that. Billions, amazing. I just love that show. You too, huh? I love that show. I'll watch it when you guys are over it. You didn't do the same thing with Game of Thrones or we're already over it. We don't care that you don't watch it. I bet you still have it. Well, you watched the Caitlyn Jenner one. I did. Did you watch any of the other ones or no? You're like too much sports. No, I just... We're too much. We're too much. No, I was just busy. No, I got something interesting for you guys. Justin might like this. So the Navy... We didn't get to bring something that I might like. At the last like 15 in a row have been like, Justin, you'll like this. I don't like this. I'm not into like... I don't know how to include that. I don't know anything about shoes or sports. I'm sorry. I'm not into cool shit. Shoes or sports. You guys just don't cross paths. I don't know. This is actually, you'll think this is interesting. So the Navy has a new weapon. It's a new non-lethal weapon that they now have. Non-lethal? Yes. That sound one? Did you hear about it? They've had it forever. The one that... No, no, no, no, no. That makes you like, yeah. It's like Humvees, it's attached on there and they direct the sound. Makes you sound or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, this one's even... Brown note. This one's even... That's what they call it. Is that what it's called? I don't know. I think that was it. That was it. Somebody called it that and it stuck, right? Yeah. Like it reverberates. Yeah. And it makes you shit yourself. Yeah. Cool. And they can... No, check this one out. So it's a special electronic device that is designed, ready for this, to make people stop talking. What? Yes, dude. Wow. So they... So they can focus it on one person and they focus it on them and the person's own voice, the person's own voice is repeated back at them, only at them, every time they're trying to talk. Oh my God. And it... That reminds me of my first experience of being high. That was a night. Bro, I'd say I called my best friend crying. Dude, I was so fucking scared. Yeah, dude, that was a... That kept me away from... Were you like 20 years old? Yeah, I was 20. So that's what kept me from... That's what kept me from weed for like a decade. I did that, dude. 20-year-old matter cry. The experience that I tell people what it was like was I remember, I got to a point where I was so high that if I said something, it would just keep repeating in my head on a loop and it would freak me out. So if I tried to express that, then that would go on a loop. It was like the worst... And then things were happening on a loop. Oh, that was... I was like, this isn't for me. Hey, so you get on the phone and you're like, hey, bro. So that could be... Yeah, no, I did, I totally freaked him out. And the reason why I called him is because he had smoked weed before me. He smoked when we were in high school and he never smoked again because that was his experience. And so I was like, oh my God, it's happening to me. So I knew he would understand and he came over and was just like, don't talk. You know what the fear of that? Was he holding your hand or something? Yeah, he totally like, hold me, dude. It's completely okay. Dude, I had a similar... It wasn't like that necessarily but it was like I was staring out, I was out on this deck and I was looking outside and all of a sudden it seemed as though, you know those old movie reels where you have the... You could see sort of the scenes kind of like you're going through a slideshow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's what I was seeing. I was watching the world kind of go on this really trippy slideshow and I was like, am I gonna get out of this? I started freaking out and it was really bad and I stopped smoking. So the kind of relationship I try to have with my kids is they can't ask me any questions. So my son now 16 and he's asked me questions about weed. It's legal obviously, like what's it do? And I'm like, well, it's pretty much non-lethal although now they make edible so strong. I'm waiting for now when people can actually overdose but it's very, very hard to, right? I said, but that doesn't mean that it's totally safe. I said, one of the worst things to overdose on is THC, it's terrifying. It amplifies all your fears. It is so terrifying that it'll stick with you psychologically for a long, you talk to anybody that's overdosed on edible and they'll tell you to fuck them up. Oh, it kept me aware for the longest time. You should share that famous recording of the cop with him, the cop that did the brownies. He was moving really slow. Yeah, and he thought he was gonna die and so he called the cops on himself. He felt like an idiot after that. But dude, so apparently this electronic device, they aim it at someone and it disorients them so much that they shut up. Now, here's my, you ready for the, right? I would love to have that. Yeah. Shut up. Zzz, yeah, not you guys, but you know. You get home from a long day. Oh my God, let me tell you what happened. Zzz, watch the TV. It doesn't even, how does that work? That's so weird. Well, yes, very strange and it's obviously effective but here's where I start to get a little freaked out. Like, think about the ultimate, like the ultimate protest weapon. Like there's a protest going on. You know, you guys can't and they just shut the fuck up. You know, you over there doing the speech, getting everybody riled up and then all of a sudden, you can't talk anymore. Dude, that's kind of creepy. That is scary. That's a little bit scary. We live in like Twilight Zone stuff, dude, for sure. So anyway, so what'd you do then? You guys just went to the beach alone or what? Yeah, no, I mean, we had our other family right was there, so it was just a small family. Second place. First place in my show. No, actually my brother-in-law, he just had called us up a couple of days before. He said, you know, it's supposed to be a beautiful day on the beach. What are you guys doing? We were in town, so we just went down there and hung out for the day. It was nice, really, really nice. I didn't realize that my place, this is the best weather is this month and next month. I was telling Justin that the day that the, you would think like, cause it's hot over here and stuff that it would be. Falls are the best. Yeah. That's when all the locals are out at the beaches. Wow. Well, the smoke, it was getting kind of smoky in San Jose a little bit this weekend. But you're at, you don't see nothing, right? No smoke. No. Wow, that's good. It was bad, I mean, it's really bad up north. My sister had to cancel her trip. She was, they were planning, poor, I feel so bad cause they're in Reno, so they're right in the thick of all those fires and stuff up there. And they have, every year, they take off for a week for their anniversary. And this year, they decided to go up to Oregon to get away from the fires. And then like, literally like two days before like massive fires broke out up there and then they had to cancel their trip. So they came down to my place. They stayed, they're at Perharo Dunes now, but they were at my house for a couple days for their anniversary. So my cousin has a place up in South Tahoe and South Lake Tahoe. And they got, of course, mandatory evacuation. And he went to go get some of his stuff. And he's like, dude, it was the weirdest thing. He's like, you're driving. And you know, it was safe to go there to grab your stuff. But I mean, you could see the ash and stuff in front of your face. And it's like, you want to get out of the car, in the house, back in the car and gone. Because it's like, it's toxic. You know, I was thinking about how dangerous and bad this is right now with COVID going. Because that's like a- Your lungs? Yeah, I'm still convinced that the reason why I got COVID, the worst of all of us is because I smoke out of all of us, none of us. None of you guys smoke weed. I smoke weed on a regular basis. And so I know that's not good or ideal for my lungs. Imagine if you are up in the Tahoe Reno area and you're breathing in the smoke air all the time and then you get hit with a respiratory virus like that. I'm wondering if we're gonna see a spike in hospitalization and stuff like that up in those areas. Well, what you will see is typically places with worse air. You see downstream events. So you see 10% increases in lung cancers or other types of disorders and diseases. Now the really sensitive people, you'll probably see some stuff. But if this continues, because last year we had really bad fires too, right? If this continues, it'll be like, it'll, you'll see the life expectancy of living in places like California start to drop because of the quality, because of the poor air quality. But we'll see what happens, right? I'm wondering if now, because a lot of, I mean, fires huge, right? Does that mean it's gonna prevent future fires now? Because it got rid of so much you'd think, but then there's new ones keep popping up, man. That's crazy. That's really crazy. I mean, isn't that one of the theories is that we actually need those fires? Like, isn't that like, the underbrush is, I mean, it's kind of part of the cycles. But, I mean, you, as you saw, there's arsonists out there starting these things. So it's like, it's all like, and plus they just don't have the resources they need to fight a lot of them here because it's been mismanaged so bad. So, you know, there's a lot of that, dude. There's a lot of that to consider and there just needs to be better leadership. The controlled fires were really good at, like they would do controlled fires, right? To create breaks and stuff. And a lot of those, they just weren't doing anymore, partially because environmentalists said, don't do it and there's other reasons. So then over time, you build just like all this, basically, flammable material. And you're right, in terms of nature, this is a natural process to have these fires do that. But it's dangerous. So speaking of that, like scotch broom and all the stuff that sort of like hangs around underneath, like the redwoods and all that, like I just got closed over the weekend that now we're gonna have goats on our property. What? You're getting goats? Goats. That's awesome. That's one of the best ways to clean up your property. That is awesome. Yeah. Well, that's why I got closed. I did not know that. They basically are like lawn mowers, you know, for all the underbrush and stuff, like on, you know, property. So I was like, dude, do I need more animals? Goats, chickens, you're gonna have like a regular old farm over there. I know, dude, I'm like, what's happening? You need a cow too. You need one cow, milk a cow. I'll have you room for a cow, but I'll be there. Are they gonna be always there or are you just getting them to clear it up? No, they're always there. They got, there is like a pin for them. I guess the previous owners had them there and I didn't know that. I thought it was like for dogs, but no, it's for goats. So, yeah. Did you know that? So, okay, did you know, I was watching this show with Jessica. It's like this home renovation, I don't remember the name of it, but this woman goes in and makes these incredible backyards, very talented. Drop some goat science right now. Well, no, this is, I didn't know this, right? I know people who own goats, not so much. I have a goat friend. No, here's, I didn't know you could do this. You can actually rent. There's people that have goats. You pay them a fee. They bring the goats to your property and they clear out your property for you. They do that with cattle all the time. Yeah. I had no idea. You see them on the freeway doing that every now and then too. This was just a whole herd of goats. Just, shh. I had no idea. Yeah. That's cool, though. How many are you doing? How many are you getting? At least two, right? But I don't know, maybe more, but at least two, because apparently you need them. Yeah, you need, I think you need a good amount. I mean, I haven't been to your property yet to see. But from the pictures, it looks like there's quite a bit of stuff. Yeah. I imagine I need a few of them. I think you just kind of need some. I guess they're cool. Yeah, if you domesticate them and feed them, hand-bottle them or whatever that you get. I don't know. You have to feed them like a baby? Yeah, I think so. Are you guys going to get them when they're young? Yeah, so I guess one of Courtney's friends has them and then got them pregnant, so then we're going to get the offspring from them. Besides, you can have a little farm over there, man. Now, you can eat goat, yeah? Okay. I don't know, dude. I mean, you can eat any goat, I mean, you can. You can eat bat if you want. I mean, if you got, yeah. Adam's such a pop. He's such a go-getter, you know what I mean? It's out. Technically, you can eat any. This guy's the limit. If you believe, you can achieve it. This is true. Why'd you say goats are assholes? Oh, yeah, they're like little dick personalities. Really? Oh, yeah. They'll buck you and all that. They're little assholes, man. Oh, wait a minute. Are you going to put on a helmet and go ham against one of them? For sure, dude. I know it, I know it. The one pisses off Justin to be like, oh, you're getting a three-point stance and not coming out. They nip a lot and they headbutt like crazy and buck, yeah, they're like little shitheads. That's crazy. Yeah. I get my boys to wrestle them. I had a couple people send me an article over the weekend. Did you guys have anybody send you the exercises you shouldn't do when you're over 60? No. It was, it's making the rounds and it's one of those articles that- It's like Shape Magazine or something? Yeah, stupid. No, eat this, not that. It's another popular- Oh, eat this, not that. Yeah. And it's so click-baity. Did that grow from the book? Remember that book was really popular? Eat this, not that. Yeah, that was a real popular book. Did it grow from that? Is that what it turned into? That's a good question. Because that thing went crazy. I know that sold a ton of copies and then now it's turned into an actual publication or something? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I know it's a big website and a lot of people have sent this to me. I don't know if it's connected. But it's so infuriating to me articles like this because it just perpetuates myths, right? Yeah, well, so what are the ones they listed? Well, here's one of them, right? So one of them says, don't do any lifts in which you're under the weight. So what are the words? What? No bench press, no overhead press. And it makes me, it furiates me because it treats a 60-year-old. Yeah, you get why it is, but it's terrible advice. Yeah, because you're fragile. Yeah, exactly. I better enjoy my last four years. Yeah. It's over. Yeah, you're too close, Doug. Here's another one. I'm gonna mess with it. Crunches. Don't do crunches. No. People over a 60-year-old. Well, don't do Stepani crunches. That's good advice. That's good advice for your 60-year-old. Yeah, that's for anybody, any age. Here's another one. Moves that put weight behind your head or neck. Don't do any running. Don't do, I mean, so, and here's what infuriates me about this is that if you're trying to improve your fitness, you're working out, whatever, you read this, and it's all myth-based. And here's, and we've said this many times, here's the truth. All exercises are appropriate for you so long as you can perform them properly with good stability, good control, and do the strength, that's it. Like, like Rascal Scooter curls, or like what? No, I didn't say, but it just, it makes me so mad because if you can perform the exercise, I'd look, I know 60-year-olds that could do barbell squats and it's a great exercise for them. Then I know 20-year-olds, I'd be like, you shouldn't be squatting right now when you need to work on your mobility and your control. So now imagine you read this and you're like, oh, I shouldn't do exercises where the bar is above me. And you're avoiding some of the best exercises that are known to me. I mean, I've got this from relatives and people in my family, like even on Courtney's side too. It's like, you know, every now and then like, like my brother-in-law came and he's like, yeah, my doctor told me I shouldn't deadlift because it's gonna hurt my back and it's like all this bad for my back. Like it's bad for, it's bad for your back? Is that, is that what he's telling you, is that right? You know, like it's just like it's, it's because it's that whole thing. Like it's just perception. It's like, if you're picking something up, then obviously, you know, that's a bad lever. And then, you know, there's all these adjustifications they make instead of just that it actually strengthens exactly what your problem is. Mark my words at some point, unless we figure this out, at some point we're gonna become so sedentary and so unable to perform basic functions that there will be recommendations to not walk. Mark my words. Yeah, at some point they're gonna say, the way things are going, that looks bad. Have you ever seen a graph or a chart to show like our activity level and how fast it's decreased? Have you guys seen anything like that? Oh, you mean like 20 years? Over time, like if, you know, 30 years ago, how active was the average human, 20 years ago, how active is the average human to see at what rate we're moving. I mean, I know just in my short lifetime, I've seen a dramatic difference, but I'm wondering if that's just because that's my perception, because I've only been on the earth for 40 years and it's been on that same trajectory for the last, you know, once Amazon turns into buy-in-large, you know, from Wally and then it's, yeah. Yeah, that sucks. Solidified. All right, some financial stuff. Here you go, Adam, I got something. Thank you, all right, here we go. Did you know that El Salvador became the first country in the world to accept Bitcoin as legal tender? Wow. Wow. It is now a big deal. You can now use it as legal tender in a country. Wow. Now, so speculation, what do you think? What do you think this is like? You know, I go, so I think I was probably the most aggressive about it early on when we first talked about it, which is funny because I feel like I'm the opposite of all of us now where I'm a little more reserved on it. I'm fearful of us being, doing what it's supposed to do, which is to keep the government or anybody else having control of it. And that's the whole idea behind it, right? One, I don't know if the- Like a decentralized currency. Right. I don't know if the government will ever accept it or if they do accept it, they're gonna want their hands in it to meddle in it some way or another. So I'm a little fearful at it. I still stand by my original statement, which is I don't think it goes away whatsoever because it serves a purpose for the black market by itself. My tinfoil hat theory. Okay. Why the- I feel like the government is waiting until they can figure out how to literally hack it. Unless they already have. In order to then, now, this is the new currency, but they're waiting until they can have that kind of control over it. Because right now, it's totally decentralized. Well, because cash is still harder to follow cash than it would be something that's digital, in my opinion. So hard assets for me, that's where I lie. But yeah, to me, I would love, I love the idea of crypto. I love it. It feels like it gives power back. It takes away from the centralized bank system. But at the same time, the future of it is so unclear. It's pretty gnarly. Well, the second big countries ban it, then what's it gonna do? Yeah. Now they're totally screwed. The only way I could see it overcoming that is if the country's own banking system collapses, which that would be a bad scenario all the way around. But yeah, interesting. Is it gonna work with other monies or are they trying to replace? Like what's the goal, do you know? No, I don't. I just think that the government said you can accept, this is like official currency, not their official currency. I don't think it replaces their current currency, but it's another competing currency, if you will. You know what's interesting about, you know in the past, I don't know if you guys knew this. Did you know, maybe Doug, you could look this up because I wanna make sure I'm correct. At one point, it might have been in the Netherlands that tulips for a short period of time people were starting to trade them like currency. Have you guys heard about this? I think you've brought this up before. Maybe Doug, you can look this up and- Because I don't think I had heard that before and then I think you did- People were trading tulips and they were becoming kind of a currency and then the price of them inflated like crazy and then they had this crash, this huge crash where people lost tons of money because they had invested all this money in flatware. You know, speed up things like, you know what, baseball cards are on a run like that again right now. Do you guys know that? I think you told- Oh my God, it's getting out of control. I haven't paid attention. And I have like three good friends and a cousin that are like, we're all on a thread and that's all they're posting. Wow, I wonder if any of my old King Griffys on that are whistling now. No, those got crushed. Did you ever watch the documentary on Netflix called? I think so. Topps or something. Yeah, so there's a reason why that actually card you just referred is like- I was so depressed on that. I traded all my stuff for that card. I love his upper deck King Griffys. I just think it's really, I mean, I think it's really interesting how out of control it's getting right now where people are buying these cards for thousands and $10,000 for like these young players and just the market came out of nowhere. I mean, from it dying back in the 90s to now all of a sudden this resurgence and people collecting again. You know what this all looks like to me? These are all, to me at least, if you look at, because there's a lot of things that are happening right now. It's like not having faith in our dollar and so everyone's putting it in anything else. Signs of inflation, right? People are taking money and lots of people are putting it towards some of the stuff and... Okay, so Doug brought it up. So it was the Dutch Republic of the 17th century where they were using tulips as currency in some places. Now, was it something to do with medicine? Like you could use it for something or was it just because they were rare? They just, people just started valuing them. And then the prices got speculated, it says there, through the roof and then there was a crash, of course, because then at some point people were like, I don't want these anymore and then the market... So random that they picked that. I mean, do you think that can happen with all these different bitcoins? It's like right now everyone's valuing them and so they're all driving up that way and then one day everyone just decides, like, oh my God, this isn't that valuable. Yeah, all it would take would be people being like, I don't want this. I don't want it anymore and now it's screwed. But like you said, there's always a black market. That's the main currency on the black market, right? On line. That's why I do believe it's not going anywhere. I mean, if you're a drug dealer and you're big enough to where you're doing anything outside of your state, that's one of the hardest things is to be traveling with even cash. Cash, you're saying that isn't very traceable, but it's also a pain in the ass to mail and ship or carry a duffel bag full of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Like that's where... You want to deposit it? Yeah. They'll report you? Yeah, no, so that becomes a major problem for sure. So yeah, so that sounds insane with the money and so we'll see if there's gonna be a crash with the cryptocurrencies. I know there's a few economists that call it. Is it Bitcoin or did they make their own? Did you say that? No, it was Bitcoin. So it is Bitcoin that you're actually accepting. Yeah, in fact, I read an article that the IRS did a sting on someone who sold, because you're supposed to pay taxes on your realized gains from Bitcoin. So if you buy it for 5,000, sell it for 10,000, make 5,000 dollars, you're supposed to pay taxes on that. Well, they did a sting on somebody who sold, I don't remember, like a half a million dollars worth of Bitcoin. And they were posing as the buyer and then the person never reported it and then boom. I heard a rumor. So that's why the IRS is so backed up right now is they're trying to track down all the Bitcoin money that people are making by trading and selling because it's not as regulated and there's a lot of people that are getting it, because you're still gonna pay capital gains on that. If you bought Bitcoin at 5,000 dollars and you sold it at the peak or like that, like that's capital gains, but I guess it's just harder for them to track it or newer for them to track that. And so a lot of they're scrambling it and there's people supposedly that have made a hundred million dollars plus off of this Bitcoin. So they're trying to track that all down. That's been a main focus. I don't know if there's any truth to that. You know anything about that Doug? I don't, but that's pretty low hanging fruit for them. Right. Because it's like, okay, this is what you sold. We can prove that. Now you're UOS. I mean, isn't it supposed to be really hard for them to trace though? That's the part that I don't understand. Well, that'd be the challenge, I would think. Not the, what are they called, the net worth. Yeah, if you're using Coinbase or something, it's probably fairly easy. Yeah, I think that's where the... Yeah, that's what Snowden said is the problem. Is that like, oh, Bitcoin, all those things, that that's really hard to track. But if you hold it anywhere in a wallet, which is what you have to do if you're going to make any transactions with it or do anything with it, then that part of it is really traceable. That's really clear, yeah. So doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of it? I mean, isn't that, I don't know. There's got to be other ways, just more complicated ways, right? So like, I guess you probably can store it somewhere, but you got to do all this like, most people aren't going to go through all those hoops, you know, unless you're like a big time. I mean, the way I look at it is I threw some money at it, I leave it alone. I don't think about it. I think it's very... You can't even access it if you want it though, right? Yeah, no, I bet that's it. Hits why I don't throw any... That's the best buy and hold strategy ever in my life. Forget your password. Yeah, that's part of why, I mean, that's the part of my fear of not dabbling. I have friends that like, they're making money trading and doing all that stuff and I just find it, I find it risky. I don't know enough and I'm not confident enough in that to know what it's going to look like. And so, I mean, if you... I gamble, so who am I to say not to do things like that, but that's how I look at it is like gambling. Look at that article right there. The IRS is coming for crypto investors who haven't paid their debt. Yes, yeah, this is what I heard. I read a few articles around this and I don't know if that's connected to why the IRS has been so slow the last two years or so, I feel like it's been really backed up. But if there's as many people as I know that are trading this, I mean, you guys all got to know people that are trading this and doing this on a regular basis. Well, you know that they're bolstering the IRS like crazy right now, right? Oh yeah, they're investing quite a bit and there's talks about tax increases that are also retroactive. So they'll increase your taxes and then go back and collect taxes from the past year or two. And so they need a big strong IRS in order to do all this because that's a lot of people that are gonna owe taxes. Gotta get that money. Yeah, that's the... They're really good at that, aren't they? Yeah, they're really good at that. Gotta get that money. Are they teaching this stuff at schools? I mean, like your kids that are really nice private schools, are they getting like an education around cryptocurrency and do they talk about it at all? Yeah, I wonder like in high school, you'd think they'd start being interested in it. No, they learn it from YouTube and stuff. So my daughter talks about, my daughter's like 12. Is she talking about crypto? Yeah, not like she knows what they say, right? So she'll say something like... She's trying to get informed. Yeah, so she was talking about YouTube celebrity. She wanted to buy some merchandise from some YouTube celebrity. And so this whole conversation started and I'm like, oh my God, it's so weird that you want to buy a t-shirt from a YouTube celebrity. And she goes, well, when you were a kid, you would buy it off of the, you know, the artist that you saw on TV or listen to radio. I said, oh, no, you're right. You buy it in person. Yeah, I said it's the same exact thing. I said it's just now it's just a different platform. It's really weird to me. And then I said, how many subscribers does this person have? And she goes, well, he's got half a million subscribers. She goes, you know, if you have like a hundred thousand subscribers, you can make a lot of money. So I'm like, I want to see what she knows, right? So I'm talking, I'm like, how do you make, you know, like, how does that work? And she goes, well, YouTube pays you for advertising. You can sell merchandise. She's schooling you right here? Yeah, she's just telling me, which is she's 12. I thought this was really cool, right? So we're having this coming. And I said, what are other ways that these YouTubers and stuff make money? She goes, oh, some of them make money in crypto. I'm like, well, so like what? And she goes, yeah, like Bitcoin. I said, do you know what that is? She goes, I think it's like money, but she really didn't know. So we're having this. But the fact that she's hearing it already is, well, I have to ask my older son. Yeah, cause he's about the same age. I wonder if he's, you know, researching the same stuff. Oh, speaking of kids. So I started using Caldera on my baby son. Oh, yeah. So, really? Yes. So he has a slight reaction to eggs. So we'll give him egg yolk sometimes. And then I'll notice he'll get a little bit of dry skin on his elbow or kind of behind his ear. I haven't even thought about using it with Max and Max gets that stuff out as well. Okay. So we talked to the doctor and the doctor. It's all natural. Yeah. So the doctor recommended that we give him a tiny bit of egg yolk every single day, which this is new advice. In the past it would say, don't give him to him at all. Now they're saying, unless it's a really bad reaction, you give it to him a little bit every day. And then slowly the immune system kind of gets used to it. And then maybe, you know, he doesn't end up developing like a full blown allergy to eggs. But nonetheless, he'll get a little bit of dry skin on his arm and behind, right here in the crease of his ear and sometimes he'll scratch it. And so Jessica's like, maybe we can put something on it to, you know, make it feel better. I'm like, let's try Caldera. Dude, it works like a charm. Yeah, I put a little bit on my finger. Well, I told you that. The original way I felt I was using it for my psoriasis. And it totally dampens it down. Doesn't make it all itchy and stuff. It doesn't burn your skin. Doesn't burn. It keeps it, and it keeps it like, I mean, that's the key with like psoriasis because it dries out really fast. So even when I put the creams or lotions, I mean, the creams that are prescribed, they do a good job, but then you're using like a steroid type of a cream where Caldera, I feel like, does just as good of a job and it's all natural. So that's actually how I started using that. Yeah, so he's not, like, he doesn't pull it his ears much. Oh, wow, interesting. Yeah, and it lasts a long time. Of course, I use it so I like it. And then I've said this many times, because it's an oil, I was like worried of using it on my skin because I have oily skin, but it totally balances me out. So it keeps my skin from getting too oily. But then you put on dry skin and it does the opposite. I refer to it as our sleeper product. It was like one of those products that I remember when we first, you guys weren't even like really interested in. I was like, I really wanted to. I didn't know Veronica needs to be interested in it. Yeah, and either did I. I was like, well, I know I'm using it like crazy. So I'd like to share it. If we can work in partnership about, we'll just see where it goes. And it was super well, obviously well received. I mean, we've been now past a year contract with them. It lasts for itself, you know. Yeah, I know. It lasts a long time too. 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So if you're interested, again, head over to mind pump nci.com. All right, enjoy the rest of this episode. First question is from Dan Granucci. How do I put on muscle without putting on a lot of fat? The million dollar question. What's the secret? This is a big one because part of putting on muscle, or part of the formula for putting on muscle has to do with increasing your calories, right? You want to be in a surplus of calories to provide your body with the nutrients it needs to build muscle. Now the challenge, of course, is will this surplus be shuttled to muscle or will it just be turned into body fat? And again, that's a tough question. The fact remains that storing body fat is an automatic function of the body. If you take in extra calories and do nothing else, your body very easily will take those calories and turn them into body fat. So what we have to do is figure out- It's an insurance policy. Exactly, 100%. And so we have to figure out what can we do to ensure that these extra calories go somewhere else? Because remember, extra calories don't just evaporate into thin air. They have to be converted and stored into something else. Again, this is a rule of physics and thermodynamics. Now the first thing, and I'll focus on this one, that you need to do is send a proper muscle building signal. If your body wants to build muscle because of the workout that you provided in your life, the workout sends the right signal, everything's appropriate, then those calories or at least a portion of those calories will get turned into muscle. If that signal doesn't happen, the default is to store more body fat. For that point, that's why I love to change my routine while I'm also switching over into like a bulk. Send the loudest signal. Yeah, so if I'm getting ready to switch over into a bulk or transition out of a cut or a maintenance phase, I also like to transition into a new program. So it's just a whole new stimulus. And that way, I almost, you know, I don't guarantee, but I better insurance that the extra calories- There's a muscle preserving effect there. Right, we'll get allocated over into building muscle instead of storing body fat. But if you're in a bulk, it's really really, and if you're measuring on a daily or weekly basis, it's almost impossible to add muscle without putting a little bit of body fat on. Now, if you measure every three weeks to a month and you stretch that out long, it's actually very reasonable if you do like many cuts and many bulks in there, right? So if you run in a surplus for a couple of weeks and then you have a two, three day cut, and then at the end of the month, there's a really good chance that maybe the scale stayed about the same and you gained two pounds of muscle and you lost two pounds of body fat and you've done exactly what you're trying to do. But if you get hung up on measuring every single day or every week even, and then you freak out because you see the body fat go up a little bit, I mean, that's going to happen when you're watching that close. Yeah, wouldn't you say, I mean, drawing this out for an elongated period of time versus like trying to do a more extreme approach to this would make a big difference as well in keeping the body fat low? Yeah, and it really does depend on the individual and the circumstances. Typically yes, but there is evidence to show that sometimes a shorter, more aggressive bulk might actually be more beneficial. It really does depend on the individual. You know, here's the truth and this is what makes it so challenging. You don't need that many extra calories to add muscle to your body. Now, some of you might be thinking, how does this make any sense? I thought you had to, you know, dramatically increase your calories. Okay, first and foremost, if you're the, like most people, you're an average lifter, you're working out, okay, let's just imagine you're doing everything right. Gaining one pound of lean body mass in a week is a lot. Okay, that's a lot of lean muscle. It gets four pounds in a month over the course of two months that'd be eight pounds of lean muscle. That's pretty aggressive. That's actually probably expecting more than what most people can achieve, except unless you're a beginner and you get those kind of new beginnings. But just for the sake of argument, let's say that you're gaining a pound of lean muscle in a week. Now, if you do the math, in terms of how many grams of protein and calories that requires, it's not much at all. We tend to think we need to have all kinds of extra calories to make that happen. Now, here's where the challenge comes from. Extra calories on top of that also, believe it or not, sends a small muscle-building signal. Just adding calories when you're working out, even above and beyond what you need, also might trigger a little bit of extra muscle. And then the second part that makes it hard are the strength gains. Extra calories will make you stronger in the gym even if you don't gain extra muscle. This is why you see power lifters oftentimes have higher body fat percentages than bodybuilders even in the off season because adding body fat, I've done this, right? Where I'm gaining weight on the scale and I'm probably not gaining a lot of lean body mass, but my strength keeps going up. It's all the extra calories, extra energy. Body fat can change leverage, make joints feel more secure. Some lifts respond better to this than others. Like if I just gain weight, my squats tend to go up no matter what versus my deadlifts, which not necessarily. And it can be different from person to person. So this is kind of the balancing act in the challenge. Now the leaner you are, the more likely it is that you're gonna need to gain body fat just to gain muscle. So if you're, and I'll use an extreme example, if you're 5% body fat and you're in male, you're shredded, right? You got like ripped abs and you might have veins in your quads and all that stuff. Your body may need to gain body fat just to gain muscle because that lean of a body fat percentage for a lot of guys isn't optimal for building muscle. So also consider that. Now what if you're really overweight? What if you're body fat as a man, you're 20% body fat? Well, you could probably get away with not gaining any body fat and gaining muscle. In fact, what oftentimes happens, if you do it right, is you might actually lose a little body fat while gaining muscle because you've got so much extra stored energy on your body. But I think the keys are this, right? Make sure you're doing everything right. Getting good sleep, your workout is really effective. You're not overdoing it, you're not underdoing it. You're noticing strength gains. It's appropriate. Like Adam said, you change the phase that you're in to kind of send the loudest muscle building signal and then increase your calories, but do it minimally. I would say probably two to 300 above maintenance is probably more than enough to get that lean body mass to come on your body. And then the last thing I'll say is to be patient. What always used to screw me up with bulks was if I gained four pounds in a month on a bulk, that was too slow for me. Even though, even if it was all lean body mass, I'm looking at the scale going, oh, I could gain more than that. And I would aim for twice as much in a month. It would be easy for me to put on 10 pounds on the scale in a month. Was that muscle? No, it was just a bunch of bloat and body fat from really being aggressive with the bulk. So those things, I think, we'll give you, that we just talked about, we'll give you the best chances of gaining lean body mass without putting on too much body fat. Next question is from Elsa Vasquez. Does eating a rice crispy treat before a workout give you a good pump? You know where this comes from? The bodybuilding, bro. This is the bodybuilding community right here at Pop Tarts. And I did all this stuff, by the way, too. It's less about the rice crispy treat or the gummy bears or the Pop Tarts. And it's more that you're shuttling 60 to 90 grams of carbohydrates right before your workout. And this is especially true with somebody that's in a calorie deficit or runs lower carbohydrates on a regular basis. And then all of a sudden you take in 50 to 90 grams of carbohydrates, 30 minutes to an hour before a workout. And yeah, no, you're definitely gonna get a nice pump from that. It is. Now the theory behind this. Pair that with lots of water, too. Oh man, let me tell you something right now. Water was a bigger game changer for me for a pump than carbs ever were. And then add some sodium to that. And it's like, remember the pump is mostly water anyway. Carbohydrates can help with that, which is probably why people feel with the carbs. And of course carbs will increase performance. That's what studies show. So why the heck are they recommending rice crispy treats? Well there's two reasons. One, is it sounds crazy. So it's gonna get you a lot of attention. You know, oh, so-and-so bodybuilders jacked and he said he, you know, gummy bears or rice crispy treats. Who doesn't like rice crispy treats? Yeah, this must be a secret. You know in the 70s and 80s, what was kind of this like underground secret was to have a little alcohol. Because it gave you a better, it gave you more vascularity before going on stage. It has to do with how fast it converts into sugar and gets in your system. Alcohol is the fastest. So that's probably where that came from. But would that be a good idea before your workout? I don't think so. You might feel like it while you're doing the workout. Oh, this is a great idea to me. Terrible idea. So why do they say rice crispy treats? Okay, rice crisps are made out of rice. So it's a fast acting type of carbohydrate. And then you make it with marshmallows and lots of sugar. So, oh, fast acting carbs. This is gonna be the best. Honestly, just the bowl of rice will be just as effective at giving you carbohydrates, better for you, not gonna develop some weird relationship with food or give yourself an excuse to eat garbage. You wanna eat rice crispy treat, go ahead and do it. But don't create this weird justification that I'm doing this for fitness. Like the whole reason why I'm eating gummy bears, it's not because I'm eating gummy bears because I like them. There's been so many of these things like doughnuts and deadlifts. There's just like a whole movement around trying to figure out how to entice people through like these types of foods that are somewhat taboo, right? It's like, oh, well, we can use them here because we're shuttling it in right before the workout which gives us a performance boost. It's all about justifying. And this is problem with a lot of the mainstream or popular, I should say fitness industry is what they do a good job of, which is terrible, is they justify bad behaviors and cloak it. They kind of cover it in this like sheath of, this is for fitness, performance and health, right? I played with all this stuff, right? So I did a lot of this when I was competing and I was tracking everything and you already, you hit it perfectly, which is if you, it's really about the fast acting carbs and the amount of carbs before the workout that's giving you this feeling. So if you just take out that and instead of having 70 grams of carbs from rice crispy treats and you have 70 grams from rice, you'll get the exact same feeling from that. And the reason why I didn't like, and I did, I did the Pop Tarts, I tried the donuts, I did all these things like messing around with it. And what I don't like about that is that now I would crave that stuff more. Totally. So if I was on a really strict diet like I was and then I'm like, oh, you know what? I have 70 grams of carbs and 500 calories allotted right now. I'm gonna go crush a couple of Pop Tarts right now before workout. Oh, amazing, oh, great workout. But fuck, now I'm craving Pop Tarts, you know, four hours later the next day and now I want it and I found myself having a hard time resisting those foods outside of what I was just using it for. So that's where you got to be careful with this stuff is that, okay, yeah, sure, you could definitely do a donut. Yeah, you could do a rice crispy treat. Yeah, you could do the whole gummy bear thing. But you could also do that same, get that same effect by eating good whole foods and doing it, timing it maybe a little bit sooner than the faster acting carbohydrate. Get the same pump and benefits from it. And then now you're not craving this hyper-palatable food that was engineered for you to want more. Yeah, or creating this false connection between health performance and food that are unhealthy. You know what this reminds me of? I had a client once, very smart person. By the way, intelligent people are the best at fooling themselves, I'm just gonna say that right now. Yeah, justifying things. Oh, they're really good. I had a client, she was a scientist, very intelligent and she would have two glasses of wine every single night. And then she would, so at one point she wanted to track and do all this stuff and so I said, okay, we could track and I'd see the wine on there and I'd say, well, you know, if we cut the wine out, actually we'll give you more room here. And this is what she would tell me. You know, Sal, I drink the wine because I show, there's studies that show that wine has got some antioxidant benefits and some reservoir control. So it is a handful of grapes. Get the fuck at ya. I'm thinking about my longevity here, Sal. That is not why you're drinking the wine. You're drinking the wine because you like the wine and now you're justifying it with health. It's like people who fast for health but the reality is they just don't want to eat for long periods of time and now they're making themselves feel better by saying there's studies that support fasting. It's the same thing with this kind of advice right here. So if I hear a fitness person who's saying that they're eating crappy food because it's good for performance and health, I want to slap them in the face. That's not why you're eating gummy bears and rice, you're eating them because you like them, they taste good and now you're finding a way to justify it, just be honest. I like rice crispy treats. And it gives me some carbs so cool. I get to have a treat and get some carbs. Trust me, take into consideration the behavioral aspect of this. Totally. Because I mean, I did it and I got in phenomenal shape doing all those things I just said but then what I found I struggled with was that man, now I want it all the time. By the way, this is some advice I'll give most of you who want to try this. Don't do this right before your workout. One of the worst things for a workout is poor digestion or feeling bloated. You want to do whatever you do with your carbs about an hour or two before your workout and a lot of these, like you said doughnuts, I've seen that too, right? People will do doughnuts and then get digestive issues. That's gonna give you a terrible workout. So plain white rice is easier to digest for most people than a rice crispy treat. So consider that as well. So you want to not cause inflammation in your gut. You want to have good digestion and get those carbs. You're still probably better off grabbing just plain white rice instead of the crispy treat. Next question is from Geico Lizard 420 Blazit. Okay. 420 mean? Is it bad to deadlift with a rounded back? You know, we addressed this a lot at the beginning when you first started posting videos of your deadlift because people hear this, right? And then they see that you kind of have this upper back rounding when you deadlift. So people freak out and go like, oh my God, look at your back rounding it so bad. But they don't realize that that's not, the lumbar is what we're most concerned about when it comes to rounding and that's what you got to be careful. And so absolutely a rounded, you know, lumbar spine is very bad when you are deadlifting. But if you're keeping that in a fixed position, then a little bit of natural upper backgrounding, especially if your posture is kind of fixed that way is not bad at all. Yeah. And I'm going to use an example kind of illustrate, you know, in a little more detail, what is bad and what isn't bad. So I'll use my wrist as an example because it's really easy. So if you look at my wrist, if you're watching this, you can see that I can flex it about that far. So that's as far as my joint will allow me to go in that direction. And then I can extend it about this far. This is as far as my wrist will allow me to go, my joint will allow me to go in that direction. Everything in between is not the limit of my joint. Okay, so can I support resistance here and here and here, I can, here's the problem. If it goes all the way to the end range of motion and then what is supporting the weight is no longer the muscle, but rather the limited range or the range of motion of the joint. So if you look at the spine, even the lumbar spine, right? It's got a bunch of joints. If it rounds a little bit, okay, but it's not at the end of its range of motion, you're okay. As long as the muscles are supporting that, you're totally fine. The problem is when the lumbar rounds and then what's supporting you is not the muscle, but rather the limitation of the joint. So it's pressure on the joint and the discs and then you're loading that and lifting as much as you can and the muscles are no longer being supportive. That's where the problems come into play. So a little bit of, you know, bend or whatever. It's totally fine. So long as it's the muscles that are supporting it, not the range of motion of the joint. Yeah, and with that said too, like you're gonna run into situations where you have different shaped objects that you're gonna have to move around and pick up from the ground. It's not gonna be so nice and balanced out like a barbell where we're gonna grab, you know, like a bag of dog food or like a big heavy stone. And guess what? You're gonna be protracting your shoulders forward. You're gonna be rounding that up or thoracic a bit, but you have to be able to pick it up and do it with good biomechanics. And you do have that stability and support if you train it properly. So it's all a matter of like, you know, introduction to that be able to brace properly and support your spine and have strength in that movement. Totally. There's an exercise that was widely used by Greco-Roman wrestlers. In fact, if you go, there's videos on YouTube of Soviet era Greco-Roman wrestlers doing this particular exercise called the Jefferson Curl. So Jefferson Curl. That's always controversial. Yeah, you're standing straight up and you literally with resistance roll all the way down. So it's like rounded lower back, rounded upper back, all the way down like you're touching your toes and then you roll all the way up and people who don't understand biomechanics and control will look at that and be like, oh my God. Why would Greco-Roman wrestlers do this? Well, if you watch some Greco-Roman wrestling matches, you'll notice that there are positions and moves where one guy's flat out on the ground, the other guy's got this grip on them and then what they do is they literally lift them up off the ground. So the range of motion is ridiculous. You're going from flat on the ground but you're standing over the guy, lifting him and flipping him over your back, trying to gain points. In fact, there was a Russian wrestler who was just undefeated. They called him the Russian bear. I can't remember his name. Who was just known for doing this. And they don't get injured because they have stability and strength within that full range of motion. They've trained it. Yeah, now am I saying you should deadlift this way? No, what I'm trying to illustrate is so long as it's muscle that's supporting the position and you're not relying on the end range of motion of a joint, you're okay. So what does this mean for most of you? For most of you watching this, that means that you want your lumbar spine to remain in perfect position because you probably don't have the strength and the stability to even allow a little bit of flex and bend. Now for advanced lifters, this can change. I've seen some very high level dead lifters who get a little bit of lumbar flexion. Of course, they're not going to range of motion, to end range of motion, but they have a little bit of flexion or a little extra extension with load but it's totally under control. They're really strong and they're totally safe. So I think that's where this comes from because you see now a little bit of this debate in the fitness world. Next question is from BK Prodigy 309. What do you recommend to get stronger after hitting a plateau on the flat bench press? Yeah, what were some game changers, game changers for you guys on flat bench? For when I went to incline and just started to focus on that. Now mind you, the reason why that was so beneficial was because of how much I neglected it, right? So I, for much of my lifting career, I was always into flat bench, flat bench or decline with my buddies because we can lift more weight with decline, right? So, and the reason why we avoided incline was because it was fucking hard. It was hard and I was much weaker on the incline bench press than I was the flat or decline. And I was like, well, if hitting flat bench hits most of my chest, why do I need to do an incline that often? Plus that's the one you brag about. Right, totally, right? So I avoided it, I shouldn't say I avoided it, but I did it rarely in comparison to how much I did flat and decline. And I remember I just made it a goal at one point like, you know what, I'm gonna get my incline bench press up to what my flat bench was. And then for probably a good year and a half consistently training incline, incline dumbbells, incline flat bench, and everything came up. Like, and I saw huge development in my chest that I hadn't before. So that was a big game changer or plateau breaker for me was actually just focusing on a good chest exercise that I don't do very often and making it a goal to get good at it. Like watch what that does. And so that incline was for me, but this person could be asking this question. Maybe you don't fly very often. Maybe you don't ever do dips for it at all, like something like that. So yeah, so to piggyback off that, the dips for me were a huge game changer in really working on even pausing down at the very bottom and digging my way out. So I was always working on, getting a little bit further and deeper so I could gain more range of motion, more strength in that position because when I go to bench, that was always a sticking point for me at the very bottom. You really have less support there, less force production in that position, but training that to be able to generate more force there where I needed it was huge. And then on top of that, just having proper mechanics and stabilizing my shoulder joint was tremendous because that was always something I ran into inevitably because when you add more load, it's gonna expose kind of what your body's naturally gonna do to be able to use whatever it can by any means necessary to get the weight off of you. And so I was not using the same go-to solid mechanics like once the weight started to increase. And so that was a lack of stability in my shoulder that I exposed, which rotational pressing and more rotational type of mobility practice really contributed to a solid joint for me to work with. Yeah, for me, and all those made a difference for me, but the biggest differences I noticed was, one was frequency is how often I bench pressed. For most of, well, for a lot of my early lifting career, I would bench press once a week because I hit chest once a week. I'd go to failure, get my chest sore, the whole thing. And I could not get to three plates on the bar. I just could not get to three 45s, 315 pounds. That was a huge goal of mine for the longest time. And then I had this employee that worked for me that just had this incredibly strong bench press in particular. And I noticed that he would bench press all the time. But he didn't do anything to failure. It wasn't like he was doing a workout. He would just go out to the workout floor in between clients or whatever, and he would throw some weight on and practice benching. And he said this got him super strong. So I tried this out. I stopped benching to failure and I just started benching three or four days a week. And I literally, not only did I get to three plates, but I surpassed it. It was like this huge jump in my strength just from practicing the lift rather than like always trying to hammer my chest and go to failure. The second time I saw a big jump was when I used progressive resistance. It's the first time I used resistance bands on my bench. Literally I set up my bench press and then I attached bands to the end of it, anchored them. And so the resistance was higher at the top of the bench than at the bottom. And I could overload the lift very differently. And that got me to jump big time as well. Those two things were probably the biggest. But I think the key is between everything that we're saying, if you're stuck at a plateau, you definitely have to do something different. So whatever you're doing, obviously isn't working and just change it. Sometimes that means doing more. Sometimes that means doing something different. And sometimes that means doing less than what you're currently doing. Doug, didn't we do an episode that was titled like eight ways to break through a plateau or something like that? We did do something on that some time ago. Yeah, I mean, and this is just go down that list. It'll apply to all lifts. Right, because exactly. We went through all these different ways to progressively overload the body. And sometimes we always get so focused on the simple stuff like the weight and the reps, right? Oh, I've done every rep range. I've done all this weight. I've increased my weight to the most I can. I can't get anywhere. There's other ways by messing with tempo, with technique. Like just, we can overload the body in a lot of different ways. And we get into that in the episode and just I would go down that list and look at all the things that you have currently to try and things that you haven't and then add the ones that you haven't. That's episode 1630. Perfect. Look, if you like our information, if you love the show and you want more great information, head over to mindpumpfree.com and check out all of our guides. They can help you build muscle, burn body fat, improve your fitness, reduce pain, even guides for personal trainers and make you better coaches and trainers. Again, it's mindpumpfree.com. You can also find all of us on Instagram. So Justin is at Mind Pump Justin. I'm at Mind Pump Sal and Adam is at Mind Pump Adam.