 work on my own forgiveness lessons, and so I found out I was working with like 10, 15 clients at a Goodwill Rehab Center and obviously, you know, it was schizophrenics, personalities, or mental retradition. It was still my lesson in letting go of all my charges and all the project things I was projecting onto the clients and my supervisors and co-workers in the Finette, but and it also would seem to be paying off student loans. So to me, that's the whole thing of just listening to the guys and step by step, you know, going along. And then when it doesn't start, when you start to see, gee, wordless of taking me is not sitting in with the system anymore. I like to, it really helped me when I read the psychotherapy pamphlet because I kept trying my whole life to reconcile I kept saying there has to be a job that will be my calling that I could be in and be happy, fulfilled, and complete. And I searched for that job. I kept shifting and saying, oh, it's getting closer now. I'm good. I'm good. Oh, it's psychology. Even just the psychology, trans-personal psychology. It just kept going and going. But there's a line in here in the psychotherapy pamphlet. It really was helpful. We talked about the that the professional could be very helpful in a profession, but he could even be more helpful outside of problems. And when I read the line, I went, oh, because it was like, I had thought, well, I have to find a way to find, be in this profession or whatever. And it just gave me, it was kind of like one of those lines. It was like, it gave me the permission to start looking and this is the first time you could look outside instead of inside. Inside. It's been interesting, his life trail around, to hear people talk about their experiences that work. In some cases, it's more of just things that here or there are more just a demonstration of peace, not a lot of verbal stuff. In other cases, I have a friend down, and he used to be in a lecture, and now he's up in the New England area, in a talkest, who came to a couple of my talks, and he was working on his doctor then psychology, and in psychotherapy. And in psychotherapy, you know, they have all these people that are like supervising, they have filming, he's videotaping all of his sessions, you know, and he's got some of his clients, you know, that are interested in the course that are coming, and this is all being filmed, you know, and all these graduate professors are like just watching him, you know, because they've tried to teach him all these techniques, you know, how to be a therapist, and he's just like let's go, here we go, we've got a session, and it's all being videotaped and everything like this, and he said at first, he was like, you know, I'm in this real closed, kind of a watched setting with all these graduate professors and everything that, I don't know how I'm gonna be able to do this, but he just said he kept trusting, and the professors were really learning, you know. That's really interesting, the way you handled that, you know, and this and that, they were sharing, you know, of course, he was just calling on the Holy Spirit to do it, and that was a good example of, it's kind of a place where it seems as if we, Takis and I talked about how it seems like there are constraints, professional constraints that he was working under, academic constraints, but in the field of psychotherapy, it's pretty much going into the mind, and you talked about how the whole program in the prison is on cognitive changes, and that gives you a lot of leeway, seemingly, it's still a symbol, but it's like, it seems like that's a more of a place where you could really open up as opposed to being like you were a chemist, or something, you know, how do you bring that into your chemistry or whatever, but just opening up, so it's not like there are certain situations that are more favorable to applying the course, and other situations that can certainly seem like that on the surface, like, oh yeah, you've got free reign in the prison, I can't do that, that's the old situational thing, you know, we've gone into all of that, well, sure, Dave, if I wasn't married, didn't have kids, if you didn't have all these other things, and my situation was like yours, of course I could be at peace, but you see, that's the ego, again, trying to tinker with things, those situations were different, or the circumstances were different, I found that hard in here, too, and the question is, opposed to Jesus, is psychotherapy a profession, and Jesus says, strictly speaking, the answer is no, how could a separate profession be in which, be one in which everyone is engaged? How could any limits be laid on an interaction in which everyone is both patient and therapist, in every relationship in which he enters, yet practically speaking, it still can be said that there are those who devote themselves primarily to healing of one sort or another as their chief function, and it is to them that a large number of others turn for help, that in fact is the practice of therapy, these are therefore, quote, officially helpers, they are devoted to certain kinds of needs in their professional activities, although they may be far more able teachers outside of it.