 Hello everyone, welcome to another video. I don't even know if I'm gonna upload this but Obviously you're watching it so I have but um, I just thought I'd talk about a few things like that are going on in the movement right now Very saddening to see now. I have been having these debates with people who aren't vegan For years literally, but now I find myself having these debates about word use with actual vegans now The majority of these vegans who are having problems with words all of a sudden For the most part now not that this is an exclusive but for the most part I'm gonna say When you go to their page, it's food posts. It's you know vegan for the environment It's other issues which I don't have a problem with people speaking up for other issues. I think that's fantastic All right, but they come over to you know our pages Start dictating how we speak for the animals Now there's a few things specifically James Aspie who's a friend a colleague of mine in the movement and He caused some controversy with a post Talking about animal agriculture being a holocaust being a holocaust now. This isn't anything new This has been around for a long time now if anyone knows Alex Hirschaft doctor Alex Hirschaft founder of farm animal rights organization Holocaust survivor who was literally pulled out of The Jewish holocaust as a child and survived suffered extreme trauma from this and it actually led him To animal rights and to starting his one of the first I believe animal rights orgs in the world has talked about the similarities For a long time. Okay, this isn't anything new Gary Orofsky a Jewish Vegan activist spoke about this a lot too for many years. There have been many other notable Jewish writers and philosophers who have made this same comparison But the thing is Not everyone who uses the word holocaust is making a comparison to World War two What I usually do is just say the animals are going through their own holocaust Now the word holocaust means slaughter or destruction on a mass scale Especially caused by a fire or nuclear war but slaughter or destruction on a mass scale describes It's actually the first definition describes exactly what animals are going through and everyone knows holocaust are bad and we should avoid them and we shouldn't repeat atrocities and histories But the difference between the animal holocaust is that it's a perpetual holocaust They're breeding more and more animals into existence to throw them into gas chambers and to execute them on mass to keep them in You know factory farms number them brand them Cut off bits of their body Exploit their reproductive organs and steal their children and murder their children and what is that? What is that? That's a holocaust I'm sickened to my core To hear animal rights activists Tell other animal rights activists not to call what the animals are going through a holocaust How disgusting how disgraceful now i'm gonna say i'm gonna say I have a lot of respect for a few of these activists um a lot of respect And that we just disagree We disagree We're gonna disagree on what's effective. We all the movement since i've been in the movement. I I agree I'm a newcomer to the movement. I'm a newcomer in in comparison to some of the people Been in the movement 40 35 years, you know 10 years. I agree. I'm a newcomer. Okay but people who I had deeply respect People like the creators of dominion have put up a post trying to Stop us from using this language rape Slate like we can't use the word rape to describe what happens to dairy cows in the dairy industry to describe what happens to the bulls when they're being molested for their semen and Electro ejaculated with a big machine a big dildo Sorry for the language, but a big Machine dildo that goes into their anus and forces them to ejaculate. We can't call that rape now Because it's not effective because human beings won't think it's right. They might get offended And what you're doing is you're effect offending rape victims. Well, excuse me human beings aren't the only ones to have been raped Animals are being raped perpetually By the million every single year and the creators of dominion know this and I have a deep level of respect for Chris at dominion. I think he's done amazing things for the movement. I mean But we're gonna disagree there, which is why I'm not I would never allow anyone to disrespect um, the creators of dominion for their work for animals because you can't it the actions speak a lot louder than words and they've proved that but like this isn't just about the creators of dominion they've taken a position because The word holocaust they're saying only applies to world war two It only applies there. There haven't been other holocausts in history Of course, they have Armenian holocaust people are talking about now the indian holocaust where british colonials went there and Like killed I've seen figures between 30 and 100 million. Look, I'm not a historian But there have been obviously I knew about the Armenian holocaust and said alex has a good video on that There are other holocausts which have taken place now What grinds my gears to the fullest which makes me feel like this is just speciesism And I I wouldn't I wouldn't say I wouldn't say that about dominion I know they're not speciesists, but a lot of the people who are making these claims are clearly speciesist I would say that maybe the creators of dominion just think that it's not effective. Okay, which is a debate which is up for debate They're they're afraid it offends people Since when have we been worried about offending people? Do you know showing people graphic footage of what happens to animals is offensive? Inherently offensive and there's activists out there Long-term animal rights people who say you shouldn't show graphic footage to people It's triggering it causes trauma, but we're not allowed to use words to cause trauma But we're out it's fine to show graphic footage, which I agree with I agree with I do it constantly I of course I do but we shouldn't use words We shouldn't use words to describe the animals plight that we would use If there was another holocaust of human beings taking place right now That was a mass slaughter. Maybe even an extermination We would call that a holocaust and and it needs to end wouldn't we wouldn't we? But because it's the animals and the majority of the population are speciesist I don't think animals deserve the words that we should then panda We should then panda To the oppressor of the non-human animals because that word only applies to a specific part of history Doesn't it? No, actually wait a second. No, it doesn't it applies to anyone who experiences a mass slaughter like that Doesn't it and including the non-human animals now. What are you doing? Like as I see Look It's great. There's people that care about all these different issues. Okay I'm an animal person. I got into this movement to help the animals. They don't have a voice I'm their voice. I'm their voice and I'm telling you what they're experiencing is A mass slaughter of innocent beings and that's a holocaust now people want us to change the word I know this video is going to sound like I'm sporadic because I have been Really pissed off about this And excuse me if I get passionate about this because I'm really passionate about this We shouldn't be using different words to describe what happens to animals if we use those same words to describe atrocities that happen to humans Okay, how many look there's the amount of people that are offended by the words are the same You could bring up the same amount of people who agree with it like in the movement in the in the vegan movement We are trying to reach non-vegans who are speciesist and say hey Hey, guess what animals are victims too of rape animals are victims too of murder murders one like so it starts with holocaust Okay, it starts with holocaust. It's it's offensive right even though much of the jewish community prominent animal rights activists who are jewish agree But that doesn't bear any holding on the truth of the of the of the word It's true. Whether you agree with it or not. It's objectively true. Now the word murder My uncle was murdered. He was stabbed dozens of times and left to die On his couch in his unit and it happened when I was 14. It was deeply traumatizing for my entire family He left behind two children and a partner was as my father was devastated by this He used to cry himself to sleep a lot. It was I mean It was a hard thing for the family um Going to the funeral was hard. Um, you know, my father was hadn't I remember my father couldn't sleep properly after I used to hear him having nightmares and my father's passed away now and um, you know Look look I we experienced the murder in the family and many people out there have When a pig gets stabbed to death in a slaughterhouse, do you know what I say? That pigs an individual that were murdered and if another activist comes along and they say this pig's murdered And and and I say well come on. That's a bit offensive. My uncle was murdered. He was bringing up trauma for me That's not an argument That's not an argument whether or not another innocent being is being murdered Okay, and when you have a mass atrocity, the numbers are staggering. You cannot even The numbers are incomparable. The numbers are staggering 74 billion land animals 74 billion. It's talking about over 50 billion chickens birds innocent baby birds six weeks old a year okay now The numbers alone trillions of marine animals trillions. What's a trillion? You can't even imagine a trillion No one can it's it's a staggering number every single year one to three trillion Animals marine animals Okay, so we're talking about trillions of animals. It's it's a staggering number and this happens perpetually every single year We are supposed to be more worried about who these words offend versus actually using words that have gravity To explain something like murder Like robbing someone of their life against their will which is an atrocity. Okay We're supposed to worry more about Offending non-vegans who are paying for this atrocity to happen. If there's any non-vegans watching If you become aware of this you have to stop you have to stop But i'm not going to worry about if you're offended by this I'm going to worry about speaking the objective truth from the animal's position. Okay. That's what i'm going to do Dairy cows are raped Okay pigs in the in the pork industry are raped. They are They're violated sexually abused have things stuck inside of their body to impregnate them against their will That their their piglets are kidnapped from them stolen from them executed We must be the only movement of justice who manipulates our language to suit the oppressor Of the victim that we are defending Could you imagine that? Could you imagine any other movement of justice manipulating their language so that it didn't offend? People who are oppressing Imagine that imagine going up to you know a full-blown skinhead kkk who's just a piece of shrt And going hey, I don't want to offend you, but you're being a racist You know what i mean? Like of course not you just you go you defend the victim how you would want to be defended And that's why i'm angry. That's why i'm upset about this It's not because like we can we we can all Have disagreements about what's effective. Okay, so some people just disagree with showing slaughter footage, which is What dominion is showing slaughter footage? And this isn't just about dominion. It's less about dominion. It's less about Um dominion to be honestly honest with you. I deeply admire The creators of dominion deeply admire and that will never change no matter what happens that will never change But what I do find troubling is that most of this is coming from people who don't speak for animals They don't speak for non-human animals. They might eat a plant-based diet And they're trying to dictate how activists speak because out of fear of offending people And I just think that that's a grave grave mistake And I will not stand for it. I will not stand for it. Call me whatever you want There's people who are going around calling people horrible names Horrible names in the movement. Um You know calling everyone racist calling people white supremacists and Disgusting things like this which is defamation of character because you're going to say disgusting things like that about people You know, you want to back it up because you know Lawyers might have a different idea about what you're talking about here but when you take an animal And you chain them up and you force them to produce milk for you or you cage hands up in small cages or in big barns and you Make them lay more eggs than they naturally would 300 more eggs and they naturally would a year Okay, so they usually lay about 10 or 12 a year now they're laying 300 You're forcing them to do labor for you so you can take what's that uh take what's theirs from them Okay, which puts an enormous strain on their body And then you're taking them to a slaughterhouse to cut their head off Okay, once you're done once you're done with them now if that's not slavery, what is what is You know people think these words only apply to human beings and they don't and if you want to make up new Words to describe what happens to animals or what you're doing is you're authorizing that group you're marginalizing them further That's what you're doing. That's what you're doing. You think you're helping the animals. Okay. You're not okay. We can do Maybe you think oh saying that cows are raped puts people off. I've been pretty successful I've been pretty successful and you could probably be successful without calling it rape I'm not saying you wouldn't but some of us are going because some of us view animals Not not maybe not on exactly the equal plane But we view them Worthy enough of these words and worthy enough to be defended like we were defending a human animals are more innocent You know people say oh you care more about a chicken than a human not necessarily. I care about them enough enough that they deserve Uh proper defense. I care them. I care about chickens more than your emotions more than you being offended That's 100 percent certain. That's 100 percent certain now Now I I employ you If you your animal people you care about animals, okay, and you might even be you might even care about other issues as well I ask you to use your logic and to ask yourself if If it were a human in their position Would you how would you speak for them? What do you how do you think they deserve to be spoken for? You know if it were a dog your dog from home if someone shot your dog in the head Would that be murder if someone took your dog chain them up force them to Uh produce bodily fluids for you and then you cut their head off with that Would that be uh slavery? You know, they couldn't move. They're stuck in a cage You're controlling their movement. You're treating them as property a resource skin turning them into a jacket They have no rights. They have no freedom. They've known bodily autonomy. That's not they're not slaves Come on. Come on. This is I think that this just props up speciesism. That's what it does It just what you're doing is you're like look at the industry. Look at the industry The industry use words like humane slaughter and you know farming and harvesting euphemisms You want us to use euphemisms to describe what happens to animals? Yeah, not not while i'm around Not while i'm around i'll tell you right now not while i'm around We're not going to use euphemisms to describe what happens to animals. Well, i'm not You can if you believe it's not effective you go you go right ahead I don't always use these words, but I do when I need to Explain it clearly so that people understand that hey you switch roles with this uh sentient being That's rape that's slavery And that's and when you do it to a large group of sentient innocent beings On mass That's also a holocaust. Okay now I had to get that out um I don't think that just because we have a difference of opinion here That we can't stay in our own lanes and do our own things Okay, you don't have to advocate like that And you can still be effective you can still get people to connect you can still Describe rape without saying the word which I think okay. You've got a shortcut here. Just use the word but you can describe Forcibly penetrating an innocent being against their will and violating their sexual reproductive system, you know Traumatizing the poor animal so they don't know what happened and their innocent beings scared and terrified you can say that Okay, or you can say they're raping these animals with their fist to impregnate them on mass. It's a mass atrocity. It's a holocaust you know, um I just think people try to play politician too much too much trying to like censor and You know manipulate their language to suit You know people's emotions and if I worried about how people felt I wouldn't be out telling um dairy farmers that they're that when they stick their fist inside a cow Non-consenting animal who doesn't conceptualize consent that that's rape Imagine if I didn't you know, I got a lot of media like that too Imagine if I cared about what the farmers thought imagine if you cared about so much about the emotions of the farmers They're their mental health that you didn't want to expose the cruelty in their farm Because this is a slippery slope. This is where it's leading to this is where it's leading to and this is why I don't like it and um Yeah, like I just want to say like if we do have a difference of opinion You know and you are a good strong animal rights activist who does their part for the animals And you're not someone who's just posting food and then criticizing animal rights people for speaking up for the animals If you're one of those people who's you know in it for the animals and you speak about other issues And you feel like you're going to navigate your speech I really do I still of course respect your voice for the animals I mean, but when you're not a voice for the animals and you come into the movement and go Don't use that word bro. You know it's offensive like you're not going to get anywhere All you're going to do is reinforce the reason why we should be using these words because animals have been treated like nothing for long enough