 Thank you for staying with us. You're still on to the breakfast on plus TV Africa and right now We're going to be looking at the paper review joining us to review these papers is Chris Kennedy Wander He's a member of the Chattered Institute of Appetrators in the UK, but joining us here in Lagos City was in Côte d'Ivoire Yes for the afghan that is currently happening And if you did not know Nigeria won their last game and so we are now in the quarterfinals But yes, Mr. Kennedy has come back without the trophy, but he might go back when When we you know get to the finals, but yes, how did you feel? Mr. Kennedy Mr. Wando when you heard that a prophet had prophesied that Nigeria was going to be eliminated from the rounds of 16 with whooping three goals You know Um Was just trying to catch It was just trying to catch cruise as we say again attention Yes, and second necessary attention And uh, but we knew that it was just don't forget in the past to go to two years now to go to three years Cameroon has never defeated Nigeria. Yeah, there used to be our greatest rival just like We know that the current It goes that way have Our beat us although there are slow starters as it were but Just like wine they were proven with every match and we look forward to that We need to see the stadium that way We took our eyes off the so-called fake prophet and you can see what he has said after that after the defeat He came out to give another analysis of why they played at the Cameroon Cameroonian players is not listening to what he said this and that but you know them They're everywhere and We're moving on we're moving on our focus is now on angola That we're going to meet and we know that we surely beat angola anytime anytime the name angola is Mentioned I remember one of my favorite players Samuel of Paragic made so recent Yeah Anyways, but are you are you confident that we might get to the finals and bring home that trophy? Anything can happen in football. You know, most people already wrote off a country like Cote d'Ivoire, you know, they qualify as the one of me Best losers Best losers as it were but yesterday they needed the defending champion before that match the Serega was only needed to have won all their three matches at afghan, but For quality matches It's moving and then the one if We do the penalty shooter so I believe that this correct problem of Supply who I visited a camp and I saw them. I saw their training Have so much confidence and then you can bet what we shouldn't do is underrating anything Yeah No matter how small they are look at keep that whoever beat that keep that 45 water finance When countries like Algeria, Ghana and Egypt are nearly needed so actually we can win But we're very optimistic that these singles can go on the way to the finals All right, okay enough of Let's go to the papers. We're going to start with a guardian this morning and there's quite There's quite one here that sounds funny. It says Nigeria Garn. I'm not starting with a major headline yet I'm since we're talking about african countries. So it says mind your garner lead west african's identity Cases, what do you think about that? Well That you know that garner and they are practically Have the same culture English-speaking countries they are also They are also colonized by the British They are members of the commonwealths I don't know apart from Gambia I don't know that west african Has six English like and but so the issue of the this identity issue has always been An issue over the years But let me don't bring it to you know, the problem we always had is that we've always said that should be that there should be a convergence of all this our identity Procedures and situate situation where in Nigeria we carry passport Carry another good go for pro-safety and another A metrics you want to do your people and you do another That's in a Back and can't you are at And the We have always said that I should be And so that we can have that if you look at this most of these Advanced countries you see an average american That's what it's called a national identity which card with the normally carry Anywhere I'm sure you must have seen that before. Yes. It's just like I don't know the national that identity that national identity That is what it should be In fact, when you hide that you have a green card as an american is that identity so you have a green card Does it have That identity is an identity card that you carry around and I can be the and I believe that it's the same thing Which we want to do in Nigeria and you know support Annoying part of it is that remember that recently As far back as about a year We have we are just we are asked to Get a name A name number and with that mean that so many things will be traced and they will produce the level of the security approach That has not worked. You can see on Italy these people are being kidnapped. I'm probably going to get in the shop and be I'm killing And our security assistance can still not be able to trace these numbers and you ask yourself What is the sense of that? problem that went through That's even a bank account People are lining up at a name and name offices Even if you even if you have to renew your passport as well For almost everything If you have to do even if you want to renew your passport, you have to go through the process all over again I see I can see a new Passport and not to miss an end problem Because you already have my maverick's you already have my fingerprints Why do I need to come to your office again to To do a maverick's of my finger and the rest of them and go through that process and stay another two three months Just before I can get the parcel. There's a lot of problem here and there which I think that These are challenges that if you go to some countries now, I just came back from video If you that should just leave in the airport or you need to collect your passport from I put it on a scanning and ask you to look straight into a camera once that camera recognizes you you are off You are off. The first time I saw that was in Dubai You just look at the camera the camera will look at the same move your glass You move your glass just put into the camera the camera automatically More like a face ID thing That is all face ID that is good if you are good if you are here a small country But the idea that you go through custom will do this immigration will do that and the rest of them It doesn't help us out Sometimes I wonder why we're gathering all of this data and we're not even using them For the former minister is even doing a crowdfunding for for kidnappers, you know Even another story was sourcing for money to be ransom. Yeah talking about kidnappers another story here says 2423 people killed 1872 people kidnapped kidnapped in eight months under precedent to new boom The figure is far more than that You know that that I believe that that is what has been reported In general is in that's what we call reported cases For that reported cases. I've tell you that over it is For every one case that is reported against I can tell you that over 30 or 50 were not reported So we're having more than that. There are so many cases that were not being reported There's so many that the president The families are just contacting the kidnappers But you know when they kidnap you the first thing they tell you is that you know report to police or else we We kill your brother. We kill your sister. We kill your father. So people get afraid They don't report to the so this one is the one that are documented But the one that are not documented as so many that you'll be so shocked by the number of kidnappings And we thought that this was a 18 of the past the government came out with so much promises that the level of insecurity is overmade whether it is This government's where and something needs to be done immediately just three days ago a prominent politician Chairman of PDB in Lagos that was kidnapped along the Lagos in Padre's press where although he hasn't been released But some of his colleagues were died in that process You go to Abuja So the five since Ladies that were kidnapped one family one was killed then have been all sorts of kidnapping Kidnapping was something that we never heard of in Lagos apart from the days of was that precious kidnapper Advanced advanced yes advanced But after it was captured and that in relation to back now in Lagos, it's very very unsafe to move around certain areas in Lagos expressway Especially And a lot of ransom is being taken not as if for 500,000 As if for 20 million 13 million How can an average Nigerian that is finding difficult to feed himself able to afford so our secret agencies need to strategize and make sure that they put their boots on the ground and in the same Outlet is getting so serious and nobody will say anywhere in those days Someday a month and years back We look at some states as safe safe weapons for Nigerians where he can comfortably stay and bet No place is safe again. No place is safe and I would have depressed that who is currently in France Is a on top of this game. He has spoken to security chiefs. They say they're going to do something about It seems that it's getting worse by the day It's interesting to even know that Most of the papers today the major headlines are about Yeah, security The punch says kidnapping kidnapping a pandemic over 17,000 Nigerians abducted under Buhari and Tinibu And then there's a rider that says Buhari 90% Tinibu 10% obviously President Tinibu Just came into office a few months ago And then he also talks about how abductors killed two akt monacs Also, when you look at the nation, it says security men raise bar in battle against kidnappers It's sad that this is the story of the day and this is what we keep talking about almost Almost every time we're here. There's always a security story and talking about, you know, kidnapping But I hope that something is being done to curb this and so that we're just we're safe in our own land We're safe in in Nigeria because one thing you don't want is not to feel safe in your own home And that's the reason why a lot of people are doing this whole jackpot thing Everybody's leaving because they tell you oh, Nigeria is a hot spot and I can't leave there But we're hoping something is something is being done. Yeah Yeah, let me just Okay, I just came back I was shocked that I was walking on the streets of Kodewa at 12 o'clock 1 a.m And most of the houses There was a gate we're open at 12 1 a.m when we're walking around Because at the point after the match inside to just trek and it was a long distance We say oh, we have some They say no, no, no. Don't worry. Just go off problem So many of the houses Where their gates you seek apart the gates were open at 12 midnight No single harassment And they say it's not as good as because of the But they say no, that is always been like that Of shoes and I was just my mind just crossed back to Nigeria leave your beach open at 7 Oh, leave your car You would not find your side mirrors. You would not find your gearbox My goodness That is dangerous It's like one time when someone was watching television with the family with a generator and the next thing he heard The teams came with the car put the generator while it was still working and then just moved That's when the light was disconnected. They came out Okay, well Most times we like to concentrate on what is happening in Nigeria on the papers, but there's also a security issue And a diplomatic issue here that would like you to address Mali Burkina Faso, Niger exit may weaken Two hundred and twenty seven seven billion Dollar Ekoas Street that's according to a report. We've seen that these countries are exiting from Ekoas and It's reducing the number of the Ekoas countries and now they're talking about how much of this effect it will have on The trade of Ekoas. What do you think? Yes, um, my personal opinion, I think the Ekoas government leaders dropped the ball They could have engaged these three countries better and More robust and the more strategic in order to bring them within the four years. They went out of their way to have For the coups to To happen in those three countries and which is against Ekoas put up a bet even that when you have a child You have the 12 15 children and since three of them is baby. Don't just throw them out of the house Don't come back to my house. Don't come back to this house What you try to do is try to win them back win their love try to Pet them as it were and they're going to get it best out of their bet The Ekoas Government we are not strategic enough and they throw away the child with the bad What and that is what is happening now The implications are very especially for a country like my collection on the back is three countries DJ for instance It's you want to get to the DJ but I don't know the difference between Nigeria and DJ It's just you just walking and a lot of A lot of insecurity Insurgents coming to that DJ Republic assets and and go out and that is a big problem for us. So we need to be very very careful The second one is also the step of us. I want to show this Back open by make these countries have been embraced by Russia And you can see that Russia mercenaries are now embedded in these countries and is a big threat to Nigeria. So if We are last Russia to be Take a strong within these three countries equal to be a problem as well third one for me is that, you know by the Ekoas but the true movement of goods and services I travel to Kodewa. I didn't even turn it a pizza to put Kodewa or Ghana or any West African country But with this now, we are going to go to Mali and any of these three countries from what is going to happen If they say that they run themselves, they need a passport and probably their cities So it's a very very big problem Which I think that the echo has held up state being led by our president should be able to handle this moment shortly more diplomatically And be able to but the other side to it is that there have been instances in the past Where one of the countries also hesitated after some year came back And I think Mauritania was one of the some part of one point they wanted to Is it the Ekoas but after about four five came back But there's also been a country One of the North African countries, I don't know which one I'm not trying to So they want to be members of the Ekoas because they think that they do that then And the big influence of goods and services to improve into West Africa and it's going to be But I think that this issue can be Properly and diplomatically handled we can engage them We can engage the countries that we know that there are some circumstances Every country has a pillar well in as much as we are planning to Cool it that but also find out that the politicians that were there before the people were they doing what they want to do politics democracy is government of the people by the people and what if you see most of our African countries The way our leaders Behave they get to office the next thing they want to do is to change constitution so that they can run forever The president want to be a lifetime president He doesn't want to engage if he doesn't want to restrict himself to two terms or one term or whatever them that is That is why I commend somebody like The judge up on we are the president of Liberia who has just Uh, just lost his city to arrive at you can see the way our manna with which he went about that When he was he lost he graciously embraced the new president gave him what the necessary Corporation and left the stage that is what is supposed to be that in in Africa is never the Zombie rule for 30 50 years and they want to hand over to the adjudge. Is that democracy? Well, um, sorry, I was just going to add to what you said If we look at the daily trust echo us crisis Nigeria at the receiving end and the riders are citizens will require visas to travel across exiting countries Just like you said Terrorists might up their game. So they're saying people might start to stir up troubles. Um, and then we will be poor as says Um dawn, so we're hoping that's you know, the negotiations Come good for them not to actually exit echo us But yeah, you were going to say something. Yeah, well, I was just doing just going to uh another story Still on the punch not daily trust lawmakers accuse Fubara of unlawful conduct governor wants pro-wiki appointees the drama in River state is not ending. I don't know episode what we've entered right now episode 523 What's your take what is happening in river state? That is at once in seven I say something last time, I think it was on the start club program that I said it at In as much as a lot of people might just think that but I guess I know that the guy is not living on the expectation Maybe shock that this guy was playing some kind of game that he wanted to get his mandates for the supreme court Don't forget that the federal government's atmosphere And the ruling party If they decide to swing it as a possibility that they can swing it that happens to several and several times again I remember what's up in my state of being He doesn't want to come in and election was petrified in the governor of the state And so anything can happen. So he is just starting. He just is time to pressure that He's a little solidified Like supreme court, which has cut it now that if you listen to him yesterday, he said that He warned the so-called Commissioners that we are also not to give him problem and not to give his government problem. What is he saying? He's saying that for whatever reason There's anything that happens as a possibility that you might just Bite and you know, he has been backing that bite. So that is one second. He also realized that So it's depending in the state just yesterday. He has gone out the Um Pete I'll swan in or whatever appointed the former the s Were a passionate speaker As his chief of staff the former chief of staff that was appointed by me as people. So that Passionate speaker that had the force because Followed me because good team have not been appointed the substantial chief of staff And you know the role of chief of staff most people use the chief of staff is more of text Deputy governor of the state. So he might be trying to is trying to consolidate that the war is not over and But I know that it's going to be very very tough between him and members of the legislative and majority of which are awareness of Weakie. Let's hear this panzer and see How this works, but he has to assert himself as a governor is no longer a But He is the governor of a previous state. Weakie is no longer a problem. Weakie is the minister of the fc and he should restrict himself to the fc There are lots of things happening in the fc. That should be of concern to the minister kidnapping and killing in fc He has never been this far since 1999. I think that should be me of me concerned to him. Although he has started blaming politicians and um And the best that should be of my concern to him if anything happens Abuja, then he'll be held responsible And why are talking of the security to come to us? Oh, no, that's the seat of power He made most of the all all the embassies are in Abuja So the safety of life and properties of Nigerians and non-migrants Is within the privilege of the fc minister as well as the federal government And if we're not able to arrest it, it gives very very terrible signals to the national committee who we are trying to To come and invest in Nigeria I can only come to the government of an individual as I come and invest in the country that we have I had level of insecurity As of this morning we had is now $1,500 to a dollar and Power is collapsing on it. There is a lot of problems facing this government and I hope that It's no longer time for talk. It is not time to work the talk. It's close to eight months now This government must keep the ground running because Nigerians are already running out of patience with it Yeah, all right. Um, so there's another one here on the punch. It says federal government us sign MOU to train police special squad commands commanders So we've heard that the police have said the tracking device shortage is hindering them from probing into cases, especially with this whole kidnapping epidemic that's going on in the country But is this really a good thing? I'm sure it's a good thing But what is the impact that this would have with the federal government and the us signing an MOU to train the police special squad commanders This is a good sign. It's a good team We need all the necessary assistance that we can get Both locally and foreign But locally That's the problem we have part of the problem is trust what I call the trust between the citizens and the security agencies Nigerians are not willing to Show to the security just individually for that when it's done, then it will trace back with them then used to call to them You see in the past few months all sorts of Um videos going on going on on session. We can go up into Nigeria police How they have harassing Nigeria Try to stop Nigeria's latest one. You know, you saw the one that happened in there just a few days ago Where an officer and a SP was insisting that somebody must transfer 100,000 or whatever to his account and first time So the police first and foremost have to make sure he reaches his force Of illegal elements and undesirable elements. Who seems to have found themselves into the Nigeria police? They will take it from they also realize that from because some of the security agents and the security agents are also getting involved That security agents, okay, I can I can you can see me now. Yes, we can we can hear you You know, some of the security agencies also go as far even renting out their rifles to criminals That is So back to the question in that This is a good thing. What about a system we can get from foreign countries in terms of trading equipment mapping out the equipment tracking the equipment that can assist us in In making sure that we have to track this thing has to be a Very important to Nigeria and that these are people that have done it and done it all the way But it's not just having the necessary equipment to have any But we must also invest so much on intelligence most security Most security now and need in the board which be more proactive Not reactive. It's not when they kidnap people. That's around around that's time for this. How do we prevent this with this? Things from happening that is what most of the other most other countries do they try to prevent this There's no country in the world that is uh, three of crime. Let us get that right. There is no country from the united state but the fact is that Even if it happens How often or how quick do you have to do you apprehend? Those that were involved and how quick do you also make sure that they're prosecuted? So a lot of things why the police are doing that? We also look at the judiciary because if the judge you pick them up I can't detect them to God and they cannot be prosecuted and sent there That's because a lot of them because they put them because they know that not this will happen Nothing happened. Yeah, that is not the way to go. Um, but I I love the corporation between the united states and I hope that other international countries also help us start Present problem. We are having a cost in my interior when it comes to show of insecurity All right, um, even though personally, I don't like the picture of the person who Was supposed to be the trainer of us court commanders. You know, there's something a picture says and Anyway, it may just be the person we need, but I just don't like the look Okay, it should be a fit person That's going to train our court commanders. You know, you know, there's always that thing where they say Our police officers you expect them to be fit and but then you're seeing people with like bare bellies You're seeing people that look like they don't They never went into their camps where they do their whole rigorous straight because I remember when I when I went for my Youth service you have to you know, do all of this drilling and stuff and that kind of like makes you fit So when you look at the average policeman, you're like Did you go through it? Anyway, so I'm still on the point but moving to the um, What do they call it daily trust? We start with the naira falls to all-time low at official market sells at 1348 naira per dollar and in daily trust we have that naira plunges to 1500 naira at the parallel market. So it's getting worse and worse and worse The pressure is getting worse So just to add on the nation. Um, it also says the cbn injects 500 million Dollars into forex market. So so just talk to us Yes, the The naira is thinking It is a crisis for Since 1960 that we got This is how it has never seen the history of Nigeria We had the naira is going for about 1,100 and I Brings my heart Because I continue to compete Nigeria I will never return to similar countries the It is about 600 or 600 which is 600 and 660 say for two a dollar That is what has changed at the currency 660 Now when you look at naira that we're having a 1,512 dollar you can do demand almost three times As the Niger currency used to be far far far higher and that that is safer in the past Then you say what is happening? Yes, cbn is suggesting 500 million Well, you can also you also understand that we're told some few weeks back That then the pc got about is it three billion dollars From certain source to be able to push the effect of this naira on it as I said What happened to that money? How come that we have not had effect? Just last week the former The presidential candidate of the qidi I think we have we can raise that Allah must say the government collected Two dollars and they were collecting about three billion dollars from certain Country to be pushing the effect. What has happened? I think we jetted the system We are not having any effect. So a lot of problem What I know is that a lot of spegration is spegration is going on separation is going on the economy To some people have some so-called rich people are buying up this dollar and I've taken that for free They're buying it keeping it and weighing it There has to be a special using naira to buy a lot of dollars going to millions and keeping it somebody An economic is ever said that but it's more important to be impartial means that It's consuming mission and also to continue to do that. They were not going to have it Onto me to start producing exporting Prodots and services and any more dollars. It's going to be a problem The refinery we spent practically we bought practically close to 90 percent of our Our refined orders from abroad and we pay for it in dollars Which is why some of us say that it's good that the refineries are working Let it get to them Then put the refineries also start working so that we have depend less on importation and return most of this money in Nigeria Well, that has to change the price of petroleum We will have to also look at other critical areas like agriculture Mining and other critical areas where we can also export a sport produce and end others But as it is it is not looking at that if you don't take our time The next in the next two three months will be hitting $2,000 Naira to enter that. What that means is that if you had about 10 million Naira in your camp as of January last year That's a million must have come to the valley must have come to make a five six Even four million now that is terrible. That is not the way to go $2,000 to do that. That is quite a scare, but it's very close. I don't want to think about it One thousand five Double the price It's terrible I mean, you've talked about you've talked about, you know, our crude oil the fact that we are, you know, even important crude You also talked about agriculture. What other ways can we, you know, export things in order to drop down? You know the the price of the dollar to the Naira Because I know one other way I was even thinking about yesterday was why are we not really doing anything about tourism? because tourism is a good export for Countries like Dubai, countries, places like Maldives and all of that But I know that our security challenges is one of the major Facts of why we're not having tourists, you know, coming to Naira. So what are the ways we can start to export tourism? security like I mentioned the Maintenance of all of these facilities the other day I saw a video about the leaky conservation center of which the legacy government said they had fixed the the What's it called the long bridge? I've gotten the walkway something walk. Yes, the canopy walk, right So they fixed it now, but all of these things the maintenance the security challenges. How do we start to You know, put all of that in place to ensure that we can start to have tourism as one of our biggest exports Yeah I know but I want to get your thoughts on it as well Yeah Yes, yes Let me tell you for free. One of the best stories is And there is called the Yankari game reserve is in Fauci I've been there once You need to see the game reserve Betz Now nobody goes there You can't even try to go there because Banks can't pass, it will be now You can't find your way there. That is it. That's insecure Josh used to be one of the best most people most in our country to to Nigeria When I was growing up we had of just just just and when I went to just our shop Josh used to have one of the best weather in this tree that it is almost the same weather with euro most foreigners come to Nigeria to stay to good job In the past few weeks, I must have seen the number of killings in just and glad to stay That is a tourism center They used to show what donatou did with Across across the country. What's that equality with the game? Tinapa and over the ranks results I think napa or something Yes, tinapa That was supposed to be a world-class tourism center and Crossed its time competing with most west african countries and even african countries when it came to tourism Immokie came in Keep on bad on it and starting facing something else. So that is what Just used to be a very long place I would let me still believe that it let me still say it is a long place You go to bar beach We are surrounded. We are surrounded by the coastline If you go to the beach side in this It's just like what By surrounded by what apart during my trip. We had a boat ride for about 45 minutes on the On the high sea in the It is just a water surrounding the airport or the year surrounding the airport Very beautiful people go there and relax people come from outside So that is one of the greatest revenue that kia gets on this one tourism I know you have heard about The tourism in kia and a lot of people go to go for safari what they call safari in kia So we can build on all this. So it's not just about just exporting or exporting or There's very many other areas we can look at If you go to fair Wonderful tourism area go to our show go to your state Go to can so many areas Nobody will come to a country knowing fully whether traveling from even from abuja to katuna that you can be key I I you see that the advisory Um information news being given by various embassies or the On the TV pieces do not come to Nigeria and if you come to Nigeria that is 30 of 36 they should you should not visit Then what is the story what are we going to go about tourism? So on to be able to handle the issue that's why we say that everything is hint on security If you can be able to handle our security as it were Then everything we we we rise up there was to look at area of power Power the sms are practically died. We are not producing anything. Nobody's producing anything right now Because because of diesel the cost of petroleum is so expensive that even the ordinary barber the ordinary Symmetry the guy that don't organize them both of them Just ask yourself how much we are using to to retire I want to just ask yourself how much is it for you to come a single time is about 500 Yeah, it used to be 59 in those days. It moves to 100 In fact, someone insisted that we must pay one thousand to just pump and patch one time That is how bad the situation has become. So It's a problem. It's a holistic Yes, tourism is good. Nigeria is South Africa makes so much money from tourism. A lot of people go to south africa Even Nigeria The flight Well, I hope that we start to take out our focus from oil from crude rather and start to look at other things like agricultural tourism In fact, I was asking myself currently the african is happening in Cote d'Ivoire Can Nigeria host the afghan anytime soon or even the world cup that is that is a very big thought question But anyways, this is what we're going to drop it off here on this segment We'll be reviewing the papers with um, chris king day one. Do thank you so much sir for coming here and Given your valuable contributions as always. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you very much I stand off which is what you just said about asco If you know the number of people that came into Cote d'Ivoire and the money they brought dollars It was dollars, not in their local people We are bringing dollars in cities where people line up at the effort to exchange dollars for the local currency That is we did economy. That's a They're making so much money from that. So who's going to come here for any Anyway, have a wonderful day and I'm back. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much All right, we've been speaking to chris king day one Do he's a member of the chattered institutes of arbitrators in the uk and he was joining us from here Is been joining us here in lego states. We'll go on a quick break and when we return we'll be talking about The fact that the police has said that they cannot, you know Really probe into matters because of the lack of tracking devices, but yes, just stay with us. We'll be right back