 So I manage one of C changes three grant making funds. It's called the C change load star fund for nonprofit collaboration, and we also have a grant making fund locally that serves the city of New York, and a grant making fund that locally serves the city and surrounding metropolitan area of Philadelphia. So these three funds make grants to nonprofits looking to either explore or go to the process of planning one of these collaborative structures. So the way that I got to know Jared initially is those three funds are members of a national network that see change also hosts and administers called the sustained collaboration network. There is a network of eight funds around the country that do the same type of grant making work so our three, and then there's one that serves the city of Los Angeles, Dallas, Austin Pittsburgh, and then our first statewide fund, which serves the state of Arizona. So these funds are working together to normalize the conversation around collaboration, share best practices and stories, and Jared is participating in our first ever training Institute for consultants and those who facilitate the work. And it has been eye opening.