 Welcome back, I'm still Brian Sanko at Brian Sanko 101 and the hashtag to interact with us on is Y in the morning at Y244Channel underscore on the gram and on X as well, including threads, okay, at Y244Channel. And now this conversation is interesting. I really can't wait for us to get deep into it and to being joined live by Nangami Masahashi, a public speaker and a corporate trainer. We're going to talk about self-mastery and that world of communication as well. You know, have you ever imagined yourself going to a big interview, you're not ready for it? For example, you're just having your cut time in Kangemi and somebody tells you, you're going to meet the CEO of SafariCom and you have to impress him so that you sign that deal. What are some of the tools of communication that you need? And also when it comes to your personality and presenting yourself in the presence of SafariCom CEO, now that I've said it anyways, there's a way that you must present yourself to this guy so that you sign that deal. And also your general facets as a human being. And human beings have different facets and the complexities of life contribute to actually who you are. And I remember somebody telling me that, you know, you're a product of who and where you come from, but your environment just structures the experiences of what you become. And that's what we're going to delve into and much more. Once again, Karibusana Nangami Masahashi. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so delighted and excited to have you. So let's get into it right up. When you talk about self mastery, which is our topic of today, and just the general facets of a human being. There are so many things that happen to people. And like I mentioned, you're a product of who and where you come from. This I'm quoting this from Oprah Winfrey and her best friend called Yandla. She said you're a product of who and where you come from by the experiences of life just structures and ships who you become. Meaning sometimes you're likely to carry things from your mother, your dad, your sister, and where you come from because you're used to that. So it shaped you and made you who you are. And sometimes you are close to not experiencing other things because this is what you're used to, the ordinary. So how do you break the barrier and all become fluid? All right. I think then that's where the concept of self mastery begin. So in a nutshell, self mastery is just control of the self, where you get a point where you can control the self. Now, we cannot control where we came from, but you can control where we're going. And once you get to a point of self awareness, then that means you have to begin to work on yourself. And like we mentioned just before we go on set, you're talking about a human being has four aspects to them. Of course, there's so many aspects, but the ones are the mental aspects, the spiritual aspects, emotional and physical aspect where you have to take care of yourself, your body, and the rest of it. So let me just give the background of self mastery and what it encompasses, what it entails, and perhaps then we can go to the rest of it. So I'll begin with the spiritual aspects. So the problem with most of us is that once we hit rock bottom or something traumatizing or something traumatic has happened, that is when we decide to go on a journey of self development, personal improvement. And usually this happens, you know, when someone goes through a breakup, especially for women, that is when now we begin to hit the gym, we begin to read and we're making new friends, taking care of our minds and our spirits and we meditate. That is self mastery, that is personal development and self improvement, which is something that is supposed to be a daily thing, supposed to be a lifestyle. So for me, once you get to a point where you hit rock bottom and you want to find yourself, you want to be a proper human being, you want to be decent, you want to be straightforward, you have to start with the spiritual aspect. And of course, I have to put it out there, I'm a believer. So when you take a Christian, and there's a difference between Christian religion and even church, but we'll get to that. So for me, I'm spiritual, I believe in the life and the death of Jesus Christ, who happens to be my Lord and Savior. So for those of us who are spiritual, of course, for me, I have to start on a spiritual journey because and that is why most of the time when your life is chaotic, they say you don't go sit somewhere 30 minutes, one hour, meditate. It's about, you know, taking away the chaos, just sticking away from the chaos and then find your clarity and your peace. So with spirituality, that's where you find peace. And that is where the good book that I follow, there's Philippians, it says, oh, supplication, present your prayers. And then it's a bit where it says, and the peace of God, which surpasses all human understanding will guide your heart and your mind. So that means that for you to be guided in your heart and your mind, you need some level of peace. And even in the Christian faith, most of the time, when there's so much chaos, you're going through a traumatic experience, they take a retreat. So you switch off social media, you go somewhere either to Mombasa and Eversha, whatever it is, you just take a burner phone, which is a katulu, you go with it. And then you stay away for like three days and you pray and you find yourself with your God. All social media. Yes, all social media. So you just have that car burner phone where you can talk to maybe family and friends and say, hey, I'm alive. I'm okay. I'm doing good. You check up on family. But then you just stay away for three days. For those who are Buddhist. Yes, seclusion and isolation. Exactly. And then for those who are Buddhist, they'll go to mountains or whatever. Even in the Christian faith, people will go to mountains. You hear a katalonia somewhere, they go and retreat. Yes. So spirituality. That is why it usually starts. Is that the main faucet of humanity or the human being? Good. I think for me, so here's my understanding. In the beginning, let me just take you back to the because I'm of the Christian faith. Let me tell you about the creation story. So this is something that's very interesting because I believe in God. So in the beginning, oh, there was the spirit was hovering over the earth. That's the sort of thing God begins to, when the spirit is hovering, of course, it has to bring, there was chaos. So it has to bring peace before God can start to create. So once the spirit was hovering, God cannot create when there's chaos. So there was chaos and then he started to utter leather, be leather, be leather, be for five days. On the sixth days, on the sixth day, God sits down and says, sits down and says, let us create man in our own image and likeness. So he's not talking about him and the spirit and the Son of God. He's talking about some other element which comes into play. This mystery hour is what a lot of people question. Yes. What is, when he said, let us, only he referred to. He was referring to the earth. So it was God because God is not the Trinity. The Trinity is God in three dimensions, which is just the same God. God, that is when the beginning in the Bible, he comes as a burning bush. And then in the in the New Testament, he comes as Jesus Christ in the flesh. God comes in the flesh. So what happens in the creation? God and the earth. So he picks up the earth and then they begin to create. That is why we have mother earth. We don't have father earth. We don't have anything from dust. You came to dust. We shall return. That is why countries. Yes. And that is why we have mothers as countries. They are mothers. So God says, let us take, let us create man. He picks the earth and then he fills it with his spirit. That is why when we die, we go back to the earth, where we came and our spirits go to heaven. Now heaven is a spiritual place. It is not like it is some way, it's a location. It's just in the spiritual world. So us, we have God in us. So human beings are divinity in the flesh. And then we are given dominion. So when God is creating, he has earth, which is us. And then he does what? He puts in water. We are 80 percent or is it 75 percent water. And then finally he breathes air into it. These three elements are where we have dominion over. You have dominion over the earth, the air and the sea. And when you look at our army, it is three dimensions. The navy, the marine, and our land. So that is where we have our spirit. That is why spirituality is incredibly important. It's a main part of the human existence. Yes, it's a main part. You have to understand that you are a spirit in a physical body. In a physical body. And that is why spirituality is incredibly important. People have to believe in something. Right. Even if you're an atheist, even an atheist don't believe in God, but they believe in science, they believe in themselves, they believe in, they can believe in satan, they can decide to believe in astrology, but human beings have to believe in something, a higher power, something greater than them. Now people who believe or have a religion or something of the sort, it means that they believe in the sense of purpose, serving somebody that is beyond you and your family. So it gives you a sense of purpose because, you know, you came into this world for an assignment and you owe it to a higher purpose, a higher power to do the best of your ability. So once you retreat back to your spirituality, that is where now for those who are believers, they can say, God told me that I need to do ABCG. Even for the people who are not believers, the Elon Musk's, the Steve Jobs, they have an assignment to fulfill a purpose that is beyond them. So they come up with ideas that go beyond their own selfish interests and desires, create products for humanity. So they have to believe in something for them to come up with this higher purpose. So spirituality usually is the fastest. In my opinion, that is the first place that anyone can begin. And I think still too on that opera interview, she mentioned that if your life is chaotic or your physical existence is actually a representation of your physical being. So if you're experiencing physical chaos in your physical life, wrangles, dysfunction, negativity, check your spiritual being. That could be the same happening. So it's just a replica of what's happening to you spiritually manifesting physical. I don't know if you agree with that. I do agree because there's nothing that happens in the physical that hasn't already happened in the spiritual world. In fact, the physical world is a slave to the spiritual world. And that is why when you're about to make a mistake, you have this gut instinct, the intuition, because in the spiritual, it has already been foreseen, you're about to step into danger. So your gut instincts, and God will come to you in different ways in dreams, in visions, through people. People say they've met angels because danger has already been foreseen in the spiritual world. And because God loves you, they have to bring you to a point where you can avert the danger. There are people who are supposed to be involved in accidents. And then they were delays, something just happened. They had a premonition, they woke up, it wasn't as normal. There's always those stories. You woke up, I was not feeling it, or I was speaking to someone, all of a sudden I told them, no, no, no, no today. And maybe something later on happened that was so profound. Yes. So usually we are a slave to the spiritual world. And let me tell you something that is also interesting, which I'll tie it back to mindset. So the mental aspect, we started the spiritual, we go to the mental aspect of things. So there's a bit in the Bible where there are these particular men, they were building a tower, it's called the Tower of Babel. So they build all, they come together and they say, let us, they come up with the plan. Let us, let us do this. They come up with visions, everything they need to do, and everyone is in sync and in the spirits, in their own spirits, they feel that this thing is going to happen. God came down to look at the city that they had built. This was a tower to go to heaven. To go to heaven. A tower tall enough to reach heaven. God had to come down to look and marvel at the city. But the city was not yet built in the physical world. God came down to look at the city that was completed in the spirit. So that he had, that is why God had to stop it and the tongues and everything so that it wouldn't come to fruition. So it has to happen in the mind. So these people, they had built an entire city in the spirit and in the mind. So in the spirit, it was complete. In the physical, they had not yet started the work. So that is the power of the mind. And that is why they say that for you, once you build something in the mind, long enough, your body will follow it. Months later or years later, your body will go there. We have, you know, when we were watching the races, 100 meter races, we were thinking, oh, I suffer power, Gatlingge or something like that. And then we had Usain Bolt. Then there's just a young boy. He sees himself participating and running in all these, on the global stage. Nobody knows about him. Nobody cares about him. Years later, he shows up as Fadina and Omanyala. Nobody had known because we didn't think in our minds that Kenyans were capable of sprinting. We knew we were marathoners, not sprinters. But he had to see himself participating in those world-class kind of competitions. Then the months or is it years later, 10 years later, his body had to follow him where his vision was. And everything actually had minds and even the conditions and the environment. That is the power of the mind. That is where people can pull themselves by the bootstrap. Somebody is living in a Mabati house. But every day they see themselves living in mansions. Years later, the body will follow the mind. Is that where our purpose comes in? Having a vision and maybe also manifesting. And then I believe everyone of us has a voice inside of them that tells them about something, that intuition. Like you mentioned, when you want to do something off, there's just something that tells you, no, this is not right. Or when somebody is trying to do something, you're like, nope, I feel like something is here and I need to find out. How can a human being actually tap into that voice that actually leads you to do the right thing? And also what is the right thing in life? Maybe we can get to that as we proceed. Okay, so of course then it has to start with a place of peace. That is where you have to go on a journey of self-mastering. Self-mastering is a journey, it's a personal journey that you go on to, and you have to come to a place of peace. Once your mind has been decluttered, then you can hear your voice. So for those of us who are believers, we will call it the voice of God. For the people who really don't want to be uncomfortable or to cause some discomfort in certain places, we'll call it intuition. There's people who will call the universe, and they just have different things. Others say the spirit said. Yes, others will say the spirit told me. But once you have decluttered your mind, you are able to listen to yourself more clearly. I don't know if this has happened to you, whenever you hit rock bottom, sometimes God will take away people from your life intentionally to bring you to a place of yourself. So you begin to lose jobs, you begin to lose business, you begin to lose friends, people whom you used to call no longer pick your calls. It's because you're being taken to a place of peace and quiet. Be with yourself for once. Take yourself out of the noise. But to other people that will be tragedy and rejection, and it will be like hell-breaking lose, if you can't see it from that filter. Because the filter you're using right now to say this is like a place of abundance and also a place of assurance, self-affirmation. It's like, yeah, you walk through the valley of the shadow of death. I feel, you know, even as much as this tragedy is happening to me, but I know it's shaping me, and maybe it's part of my destiny to make me bigger and greater. So if you can't see it from that filter, you will see it as this is a problem. I'm being rejected, I'm being abused, and everything is against me. Yes, and I think because life will not always handle people with kids' love. Right. And that is why they say the toughest battles are given to the toughest soldiers. So you're not supposed to have it easy in life. So once you're being pushed and you feel like things are being thrown out of your life, because I'm a believer, I'll say this, people get into different seasons. And when you're working into the next season of your life, you have to declutter. Even nature declutters itself. I'm a product of nature as a woman. Every month, I have to declutter my system. You know what I'm saying. Every month, nature has to take away the stuff that is in my system. That is where it comes from. It follows the moon. And that is where even nature, when it's raining and it's raining heavily, it usually declutters the earth. It takes away the plastic, everything that is on the earth, and it has to come to a rebuff. That is how all of us have to live through life. So once there's that clutter and you have to stay away from the noise and you sit in your corner and you're thinking, well, things are bad, it's winter, it's gloomy, you're about to get into a season of the sunshine and abundance. So you have to prepare yourself for the next season of your life. So in that moment, if you're wise enough and you've gone through a journey of self mastery and you're self-aware, you will not find it as something tough and something difficult, because sometimes you can just go down the wrong path. For how long? At some point, you just have to go back to yourself. That's a very important part. Now, for somebody who's gone through a journey of self-doubt, resentment, anger, and bitterness, and maybe you're holding onto past pain or past trauma, somebody did something bad to you, maybe in your childhood, or say in your teenagehood, and maybe it continued and it picked up, now you're a full-blown adult and the sam-sam cycles of neglect, abandonment, rejection are still with you. How can someone disconnect from that and be free? Freedom. So the first bit we've agreed that you have to come to a point of self-awareness. You have to be self-aware. Human beings and the young people and even women, most of the time women and even young people, very good at gathering information. This is what I usually say about school. We go to school to learn how not to think. So you go to school, you're taught how to collect information, not knowledge. So we are very good at collecting information. Abdomen, thorax, what was that? Grasshopper. Yeah, that was just collecting information. That was not knowledge in any way. Not practical knowledge. Yes, knowledge is information that has been analyzed. So if you tell me that a particular time of day it becomes dark, I interpret that as night. Now that becomes knowledge. So we collect information. So school teaches you how not to think. You're told, this is your assignment. You can have this information at the end of six months, at the end of one year, regurgitate it. At the end of four years, regurgitate it. I give you an A, I give you a B, I give you a D. Very good at collecting information. I'm sitting here. Someone can ask, which books do you read? I give them the kind of books that I read. I tell them the audience that I listen to. I give them even videos. And at the end of the day, the next guest who's going to come to sit on this seat, they're also going to ask the same questions. So we're very good at collecting information and knowledge, and yet we don't use that knowledge. Knowledge is not power. Applied knowledge is power. We say knowledge is power, by the way. Applied knowledge is power. Applying the knowledge is power. Yes, you can have all the knowledge in the world. Do you know why people suffer in the corporate world? Why people suffer in the real world? We have people who are successful, men and women successful, being finessed by people who've not gone to school. Yes, actually most of the big bosses do not even have masters and those PhDs. Yes, and why are being finessed in the real world by people who have, who lack papers? It's because those people in the real world have mastered life. You only have knowledge. You've only garnered knowledge. So you find this hide-me-identity is all, you know, I'm a boss, I'm a CEO, I run a business, I have all this income, is mine, I went to school, I have the degree. But this guy, and you look at the guy, doesn't even have a certificate, taking advantage of her. Why? Because very good at collecting knowledge and information and we play by rule books because school and work gives you rules. Here you thought the time you're supposed to clock it down to what you're supposed to wear. So most people don't know how to think for themselves outside in the real world. You suffer, you don't know how to communicate. Women have this problem. I've dated, I've been hurt so many times, they don't want to deal with men anymore. The problem is not to avoid men. The problem is not to reject men. So men are not dogs. The problem is not to avoid women. Men are not dogs, right? They are not, of course, because it's about understanding how, because it's a man's world. It's all about understanding how to deal with men and then now thriving, not just surviving, thriving in a society that has men. Most of us don't know how to deal with that. Maybe still on that man part, you come from a, I'm not saying you, I'm saying I'm guessing you as a first person, maybe you come from a background of abuse, fatherly abuse or the first, and they say the first man you meet as a child is your father and the first woman you meet is your mother. And they demonstrate to you and model to you who a mother figure or who a father figure is. And also that's the filter you carry along back to your product of who and where you come from. So when you heard that dysfunctional dad who was emotionally absent, verbally abusive, physically abusive, they were also dismissive to your mother and maybe they were controlling. And all, all the, all the things you picked up are chaos. And now you have this filter, men are chaotic, men are not responsible, you're resentful, or maybe vice versa now, women are abusive, chaotic and whatnot. And it becomes a thing that you have to work on over time to also heal and not be self aware of it and now start putting yourself in a space where you start accommodating now other men. So how can such a person also show the way from that? Now it becomes self aware, you understand that you have problems, you have demons. All of us have demons. We have light and we have demons inside of us. So you need to go to therapy. We have demons inside of us. Yeah, inside of us, we all have demons and you have the light. Let me tell you, I'm a mother. I can tell you for free. I can't, I can't commit murder. I'm a decent human being until you touch my child. Right. That is when you can know the demon and the devil that can arise inside of me. You see it all the time with women. A very polite, very nice chick. Just, she come to Toaki or the partner, women will go berserk on you, touch their man or their kids. They go crazy on you. I can only talk for women because I'm a woman. So this is not just to, you know, be biased. So it is, we all have demons. Like the story of David in the Bible, all of us knew David was just that young shepherd innocent in the, in the, in the wilderness, taking care of ship. Nobody knew that he had murder instincts in him. He was capable of stealing it only stealing someone else's wife, but also committing murder while at it. So we all have demons. He was God's best friend, you know. Yes. Yes. And that is, and that is why the grace of God is sufficient every other time his mass is upon us. You cannot know the extent to which you can go until you presented with the problem or until you presented with that, with that thing. So you have to go to therapy. Back to your question when you're talking about people who have gone through these traumatic experiences, they really have to work on them. They really have to get healed. They really have to get sorted out. People who grew in chaotic environments. This is what science has proven. They will go looking for chaos in their lives without knowing. And attracting chaos. And attracting chaos unless they sort it out. Because the only show of affection and love is through the chaos. So that is why most women who are used to chaos, when they find a good man, proper man, good, good guy, he's boring. They're used to chaos. They're used to be, to be put on their feet. Always have to work for that love. So someone who came from an environment where they were not shown love, where they had to pay for that love in one way or the other, where they had to, for them to be loved, they had to be good. They had to be nice or they had to fight for that love. That is what they will always seek. So that is why people need to go to therapy and have those things sorted out. They say that the things that invalidated us when we were young are the things that will grow up looking validation from. What if this stems down from your own mother? Your mother is the one who hurt you. Or your father is the one who hurt you. And still the Bible, the good book says, also your first spiritual parents are your mother and your father because they gave you life. And other people that were supposed to nurture you, mentor you and show you the way they are the ones who hurt you. I'm pretty sure it takes years. Yeah, it does. It takes years. It does take years because, I mean, if something that has happened over you for years, it's not something that you can just pull off in a couple of months, in a couple of days. People go to therapy sometimes for years because they have to work on themselves for years. That is why self mastery is not a destination. It is a journey, something that you work on for the rest of your life. I'll tell you, for instance, if you're angry, I'm an angry person. I'm easily rattled. So I have become so aware of that. It does not mean that now, because I have grown up, I'm way into my 30s right now. So it does not mean that I'll never be angry. I've been angry all my life. So it would be very difficult for me to say that I'll never be angry. But now I'm more aware. You're aware of that part of me. So yes, I'm aware. So anytime someone rattles me, I retreat because I know. I see why you're talking now today. So I'll accept that, yes, I'm going through an emotion right now, which is anger. So let me just allow myself to simmer down. So it doesn't take away the emotion, but at least now I become so aware. So going to therapy, having the treatment, it's a journey. And most people have to embrace going to treatment. We are a product of our DNA. We're an amalgamation of the places from which we came. So I'll give you an interesting thing. There are people, for instance, in the United States right now, the African-Americans who are incredibly have a phobia for water. And this can be taken back to the fact that there was the transatlantic slavery. So it is embedded in their DNA. Years later, African-Americans still cannot go through the water, most of them. Now let us bring it back home. There are people today. If you put two kids here, one child, two kids, two years, none of them has ever experienced a snake. They've never seen a snake. Do you know there's one child who'll run to the snake? And there's another one who'll run away. Because from the places where we came, we came from societies where in Africa, we used to be identified by animals. So there are people like, for me, I come from the Western community, we have Ingui. Ingui is a cheetah. So there are people who are guided by eagles, there are people who had snakes as their totems or their symbols. So a child who came, for instance, that child who ran towards a snake, you will realize that perhaps from the DNA where he came from, their symbol was a snake, they revered the snake. So that child will be drawn to a snake. Never seen a snake in their life. But a snake is a bad spiritual representation. No, a snake is wise. A lot of people say if you see a snake in your dream, it's not a good thing. I'm not so sure about it, but I know that a snake is associated with wisdom. With wisdom, yes. As wise as it's happened, the saying goes. Yes, yes. And then the other one who will run away, perhaps they had a very traumatic experience with a snake. And even water, if, for instance, in my clan, I came from an environment where someone in my DNA is drawn to a snake. As a community and as a family and as a clan, that situation really traumatized us. We have trauma towards water. And there's someone else who will be easily drawn to water. So we are an amalgamation of our DNA and from the places from which we came. So understanding that you are not just you. I'll give you an example for myself. Now let me just speak for myself before we can even proceed. I'm a public speaker. So when I started speaking, an uncle of mine calls me. He had seen a few things that I have done. I had just posted back on Facebook. And he calls me and he says, I can see the things that you're doing and the way you communicate, the way you present yourself. Do you know you come from a lineage of orators? I don't know. Says, yeah, your grandfathers were orators. So I can say that the mantle in your home was passed to you. Right. So it validated that call. Yeah, it validated me. But at that particular time I was wrong. I was like, I don't believe that. What is that? Yes, I don't believe it. But there are people today who, you know, they come from very, very average homes, but they're very polished, very laid back, very measured. The way they speak, the way they dress, the way they talk, the way they associate with others, they are grounded. When you go back to their lineage, you realize that they come from a lineage of kings and chiefs and royalty. So even with them, the way they carry themselves, they carry themselves like royalty. And yet they don't have an understanding that they come from a lineage of royals. Meghan Markle's story comes in. And I was watching a critique by Wendy Williams, who had the Wendy Williams structure. Bro, I fall in love with Americans. I call my life I've been through one or six in park and whatnot. So there's a story about Meghan Markle. She had her first marriage with somebody else and they divorced. And she met Prince Harry. I think it was at a restaurant or maybe at one of her films. And then the exchange context, she didn't know that Harry comes from, you know, what is it called, the palace. And look at Hannah. She's actually one of the most revered women in Hollywood right now. So maybe if she trust and maybe look back, she realized way, way back, and her mother is black, her dad is white. You realize there's a lot in her lineage that probably if she could be aware of, she would have packaged herself early, not even go through that first marriage and divorced. She's naturally drawn to royalty. So attracting such people. Yes, there are people. And then there are people who are very easy with musical instruments. Like someone will just be on the piano. In like three days, they can beautifully play the piano or a guitar. Then when they trust their roots, they realize they've come from a lineage of musicians. And so that thing follows you. You're an amalgamation of things that come from the past. And that is something that most of us, the moment we begin to understand that, it will serve us highly. So when we're talking even about, we're not talking about the mental aspects of things, even in the physical aspect, when you're taking care of yourself physically, because you have to take care of your body. Do you know that weight gain is a survival mechanism? Weight gain is a survival mechanism. So I'll take you back to actually, when we were still foragers. So in our foragers, we were vegetarians. We did not know how to hunt. We didn't have fire. Do you believe you were monkeys? Did we evolve courtesy of Charles Darwin? By the way, if I can move away from the creation story, do you believe we had a tail? Because they say there's a body part of us that they believed had a tail. And we grew the tail fed off. And then we started from crawling and then walking and finally we are upstanding. But when you follow the Big Bang, it's a bit, because nothing begets nothing. I mean, you can't say that there was just a spark. That spark had to come from somewhere. So it overrides it. Nothing begets nothing. So which theory is true? Charles Darwin, the Big Bang of the creation. Science is not conclusive. So we can only take what we can and what we can. But I see that science is factual and physical, but spirituality is mystical. The beautiful thing about science is that it's not conclusive. So with science, you cannot say that this is written in stone. This is the final body. This is how it's supposed to be, because things mutate, things change, we evolve, and things happen. So that is why I was even taking you through that. Because it's inconclusive, that is why we came from the tale and then we've evolved, we become the super beings that we are today and then we're going into AI and then perhaps we'll be cyborgs at a particular time in the future. I hope not. I hope not. And that is the story of what do they call aliens? I don't know if you've seen those updates a lot instead. So you do this on foreign objects. There's also predicted that in, I don't know, a thousand years from now, there'll be foreign beings in a foreign planet. In fact, they've said they're already looking into those foreign beings in another planet. I don't know. It's so scary. Yeah, yeah. That is why, you know, the universe, they say that this is not the only universe that we've had. We have so many galaxies and so many, but the good thing is that this is the only planet with human beings of the nine. Is it in our eight planets? It's the only planet that has us, this kind of species. And so we are really happy with that. So now when I was taking you back to the foragers, when we're just vegetarians, we didn't have the fire. So the invention of the fire is what made us omnivores because now we could go hunt and come and smoke the meat. Yes. So before that, for the longest time, we just were vegetarians. So our body, that is why for most people, consumption of meat becomes very heavy to your system and milk because we were not used to that. We just used to go and just get the fruits and the vegetables and prepare that. And that's it in the herbs. So once we left from the foragers and then we became hunter-gatherers, of course now people would go and hunt. So the men would go and hunt. And then sometimes because of the seasons and the changing seasons, they would go and be stuck there for like three, four days because it's a cold season. It's a cold season. The animals have hibernated. They can't find animals very fast. So what would happen? They come back weeks later. The women, children, and the old people are now emaciated. They are growing thin because they don't have food. It's during the planting season. This equate in our Luya part of the country, Muizua Sita, Muizua Saba, they are about to usually say Muizianja because people are planting, there's no food. So during that particular time, people would die before the men would come with food. It's very difficult for them to hunt. So they would die. So as you evolve, and this is in a series of so many years, as you evolve, your body and our minds began to realize, if I grow thin, I'm about to die. When you gain weight or when you lose weight, the first place it shows, it's on your stomach. So you gain weight here or when you lose weight, it shows on your stomach. So your body, whenever there's no fat around your stomach, that is why when people lose weight after some time, they gain it back immediately. Your mind goes, we've lost weight. We've lost weight. We are about to die. That is, you know, when you see the people in farming areas, in drought areas, none of them will die of hunger and they are big. They are usually emaciated and they are thin. So your body goes, we are thin, we are about to die. Your brain kicks in, the placebo effect. Placiboe effect is when your body tricks your mind with effect treatment, masquerading as the real thing. So your body tells your brain, cravings, cravings, cravings, cravings, sugar, carbohydrates, sugar, carbohydrates. You begin to eat yourself to stupa until you gain back the weight. And the body is like, now we are good. So in short, anybody who feels scared because they've gained weight. Yes, it's your body protecting you. Yeah, now you know the reason why. And it's your brain protecting you. But you know, there's being overweight in obesity, which is not a good thing for your health. Of course, now anything that is done over the top, of course, now becomes toxic. So when you overeat, because I think obesity is when now people can't stop eating. You overeat and you don't do it. But usually, most of the time, the reason why people gain all the weight back is because it's a survival mechanism for your body. And you know, you see, we can trace it back to thousands, parts even millions of years, with the way your body and your mind is, your mind is, our mind is the way it's wired. So it's a, and that's why even people who go through gastric bypass want to come back and they're very thin. Three years later, they've gained back all the weight. If they don't have the discipline, the mind will still go, no, we have to eat. And you can't stop it. Right. I've seen, I've actually seen last week, or pro-influenced trending, I don't know, black people, in fact, they have, she has a movie called The Colour Purple. And they've been dressed in this exact color that you have. Like if just check YouTube Colour Purple, you'll see all the interviews they've done. They have a movie called The Colour Purple. It also means something spiritual anyways. And she's lost weight and they've related it to something called ozemia. And I think Elon Musk talked about it and they're like, no, people should not be losing weight to feature in films and whatnot, but it's opera, please. So why can't it be a good thing to lose weight? Actually, it is a good thing to lose weight because it's a way that keeps you fit and whatnot. But we were talking about self-awareness. So the moment the cravings come in and all of a sudden you want to eat, you want to eat, you have that awareness that it's just your mind trying to trick you into believing that you're about to die. So let us eat so that we can just be fat and we will not die of hunger. So it's a mind trick. It's a mind trick. Your mind, that is how your mind is wired, especially for those of us who are in the Savannah area. That is why people who are in this region in Africa, we generally, we are big people. They say Africans are well endowed, which is a good thing. Yeah, it's a good thing. Now as we move away from that, let's move away from that. And now talk about profession. For person who wants to package themselves in a way that they have a certain appeal to, maybe a certain target audience or a certain target market. For example, now the corporate space, now that you are also a corporate trainer, maybe what do you offer to people in such spaces? Basically, it's about leadership and communication. I think those are the two places that most people are feeling. And for me, the most important thing is communication. Most people do not know how to communicate. Because let me tell you, language, because communication is language. Language is the single most powerful tool ever given to mankind. You want to make peace, use language. You want to bring more language. They say that the pen is more powerful than the sword. So communication, if you can learn how to master, we were given religion through language. The stories that people say they are stories and they are myths, but the reason why they are convincing is the language, a language of hope, a language of faith. So if you can master how to weave your language into how you communicate, it becomes a powerful tool. People who can understand, and that is why, and I know we are sitting here, media is the single most powerful tool in any nation. It can either be used to build or it can be used to propagate propaganda and destroy because of the language that they use. World War I, II. World War I, II. And of course, when we saw World War II with Hitler, Goebbels, he was the chief propaganda propagandist and things went the way they did. And Hitler. And actually, radio was the most powerful tool of communication at that time. And Adolf, when you listen to Adolf, Adolf is one of the most powerful orators. He was very good at convincing the masses. Do you know what it takes for you to convince an entire people to almost wipe out millions of people on that particular nation? You really must have been good at communicating and you really must have been good at using language. Now language can be used to appeal to people's emotions. Even going in into this particular dispensation and this government, they had a narrative, a hustler narrative, which appealed to most people and the masses. And that language, wherever they went, it was, I understand you because I'm a hustler. Right. So I'm speaking your language. I'm speaking your language on your behalf. So it's all about communication. It's all about language. So they didn't have to come up with very sound and majestic and magnificent type of language to try and lure the elite or the middle class who are educated. They know who votes. And the person who votes is the hustler. So communicated their language that they understand. So language is the single most powerful tool. Effective communication. It also takes me back to that. How can a person communicate effectively now as a public speaker? Yes. Or one who is trying to strike a rapport or a relationship with maybe someone of a higher caliber or higher caliber. For example, now a student who is just learning how to get into the world of corporate and get a job. You've mentioned those people who don't know how to communicate even saying hi. They have an awkward demeanor, meaning just the way they present themselves is really off. And there's nothing of fast impression. I've been to auditions myself before even I got into radio. Is the first thing is like we didn't like your first presentation. Sorry. And also you are a little bit too young. And that time you're so green. You're just an intern and whatnot. So over time when you learn it and you hack it now it becomes a thing. Now for a person who doesn't know how to do that, how can they walk down that jump? That is where communication is a skill. It is not something that you're born with. It is something that you have to put to work time and effort, energy into it all the time. So if you know the spaces that you have to go in for the most part require that you communicate, you have to master communication. And because it is a skill, there are different levels and hierarchies and tiers to it. And you have to understand the different environments and the demographics that you win. So perhaps if I'm coming to speak to a group of the elite, these are CEOs, rockstar executives. These are people who are well-learning, who are well-read. So I will not come with some hogwash type of conversation because I know the kind of people that I'm addressing are people who are well-read and so they're expecting some top tier kind of content or information from myself. Now if I'm addressing a very youthful audience, high schoolers, I will have to appeal to that particular audience and understand how to communicate to them. Now back to your question when you're talking about young people who are in school or perhaps are just done with school and they want to get into the job market. You have to understand your industry, where you're parent and how your industry, how things work in your industry. And then you have to practice all the time. Sometimes it can be as simple as just looking yourself in the mirror and assuming that you're the CEO of SafariCom, when we started the show, you talked about SafariCom. Before you can go in because most people, you don't want to insult people's pedigree. You don't want to go to an audience of people, not know anything about them, not know anything about your stuff, not know anything about yourself. You really have to master the thing that you're doing. Now you have to do it over and over again. Look at yourself, imagine yourself, you're the CEO, come up with a speech, come up with something, you then present. Present it to people. Steve Jobs was very good at marketing. I think he's the rockstar marketer of a generation over time. A thousand songs in your pocket. Those are the Apple products. Yes. And do you know for him to make a 45 keynote, it used to take him like a week or two to prepare that speech. So he would write like a full speech, which would be like several pages, and then he would cut it into points and then cut those points into points, into points into sub points, until he was left with one sentence, a thousand songs in your pocket. And that is what he would come and present. So what you see people present for 45 minutes as a keynote, sometimes it's weeks of preparation and presentation. That is why I said when you begin, you don't want to insult people's pedigree. You have to put in the time and the effort and understand how to communicate. How do you use language in the particular place that you're in? There are people who are very particular about how you dress, because communication is not just about how you speak. It's about how you present yourself, how you dress for the occasion. And there's that first impression, like I said. How you look. Because this thing of, let's go back to dating, what most people say. You know, as Med, you don't fall in love with the personality in the beginning. In the beginning, you fall in love with what you see. So people, you don't want people to be like, I don't have any content. I don't have any particular time. No. How you present yourself, people will... Beauty is internal. Yes, beauty is internal. You know, I'm smart. I'm intellectual. I always say, I'm a straight man, I'm an X-ray. But which is very true. So when you're standing before, I see, oh, the way you present yourself, they'll write you before even listening to you. Even your body language and your moves, your gestures. Exactly. Do you know there are people who... And this has happened to me so many times, especially when I was just starting out. Like I would just dress for the occasion. Of course, I know that one-on-one communication or one-on-one presentation is that look good and then sound intelligent. Usually that's the first thing. So number one is look good. So every time I walk into a room, I would walk into an establishment. And with the way I'm dressed, the soldiers, from the way one interaction I may quite get, I usually know I've hit the jackpot. Because the way I'm dressed in the web, they're like, hey, this chick is there. This chick, she knows her place. She knows her stuff. She's perhaps here to see the CEO. She's not a job. And by the time I open my mouth to speak confidence, false confidence, usually they give me access. And I get into those establishments. And you said somebody cannot tell between true confidence and fake confidence. You can't tell between fake confidence and the real confidence. So in the beginning, you can fake it. You can just, I'm confident. I'm confident. I'm confident. And with every fiber of your being, you know you're not confident. But after some time, your body, your mind, your brain picks it up. The thing that I was telling you about the Bible of Tower thing, and they created this thing. They built this thing in the spirit. Well, in the physical, nothing had happened. It all started in the mind. So the mind will be like, oh, we are confident. We are confident. And then your mind, because the alchemist, whatever you desire, your brain, or the alchemist desire come, the universe will conspire to bring it to you. To bring it to your friction. So your brain, because it was created, our brain was created for survival. It wasn't built for success. So this thing about success, success, success. My brain is built for success. You have to trick it into success. Your body, that is why most people who are successful are not considered crazy. Because the normal thing is just stay back, controversy, the hate, and all that. The brain is like, it's too much. It's too much. I don't know if you saw this recent interview by Elon Musk, where he used the F word and said, they can go F themselves up. And Elon Musk is a revolutionist. But now you've seen what he's done to X and the rest of the inventions now. So a lot of people are questioning, what is this guy talking? And how is he talking? And yet, he's like a role model to almost all the big inventory companies right now. He really used, he went off, completely went off. You can check it out. Every station picked it up, including CNN. Maybe Tunisia, Tukusema. But doesn't it happen to the best of them? You can see it's the same thing that also happened to Kanye West. This revolutionary is almost all the time. Is he not unhinged mentally? Okay, I wouldn't know. But here's my thought. My thought is that Kanye plays to the gallery of social media and of spectators. He's really mastered the masses. He's really mastered people and how they think. And he has this chaotic following of beliefs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he has a way of injecting himself in and out of situations and knowing how, he knows how it's going to play out. And that's communication rather? Yes. He runs a lot. Yes. And he knows how it's going to play out in the end. He knows how eventually it's going to play out. So, and I think those are maestros. He's a genius in his own right. He's a genius in his own mind. And I think it's also Elon Musk who said, I'm not a genius. I just do engineering every day. That's what makes me great. People think I'm smart. I'm not smart. I just do the same stuff all day, every day. And I think that is something that all of us should at least try and borrow a leaf from, especially when you want to communicate. Just do the thing every day. You become so good at it. People look at you and they say, you're a genius. Yeah, right. 25 years, man. Or you're good at what you do. 25 years. Yeah, yeah. Now for a person like you who's a public speaker, you communicate a lot. And there's a place where he talks about commanding, communicating, and then connecting. Maybe for a person who doesn't have that speech consistency. So maybe that's a mastership of some of the keywords that you have to use while addressing people. Even the body language connecting with the people. Their eye contact. There's sometimes this phony eye contact. And there's a time I was also being trained in the stories, the speech. And they are telling us that, you know, you don't have to like stay into a specific person. You can just look over their heads, even if they're standing just right. And when you do that, nobody can notice if you have skewed phony or eye contact or whatnot. So how can a person become perfect at that? Now that you've done it. And I know you've spoken to students and so many other places. Of course, starting out was horrible. Starting out, I hadn't mastered anything. And for me, I'm just a student of life. I'm a student of the streets. I didn't go to any school to learn how to speak. It's something that just came naturally for me. And I decided I'm just going to go up with a flow. And in the beginning, of course, and you know, over time, that particular analogy has been dismissed where you have to look over people. They can tell. People can tell people. I'm not stupid. And people can read energy from a room. When you're looking over them, they can tell. So sometimes it's just good to be honest and say, especially when you're speaking to a group of people whom you know are well-versed in the subject matter than you are. And you can just get in and say, and just be honest and say, hey, I understand that all of you are well-read more than I am. But the reason why we are here is because you think I have something to say. Yeah, I wouldn't say that. That would be self-sabotaging for me. I'm talking in the sense of a speech. This is not an interview. In the sense of a speech. Yes, not an interview. When you're going to an interview, you have to fake it. But when it's a speech where I'm giving a speech to individuals, I'm giving a speech to executives. I mean, executives, these are CEOs. People who've gone to school, they have PhDs. They have 30 years under their belt of doing this particular job. So, and I'm just here naive 33 years of age. What do they have to learn from me? 60-year-old men. You understand? So when I'm starting. You're young. Yeah, yeah. What is this? They're old. Yes, but of course. You're giving them a different test. Yes. And you can imagine, of course, I have something to tell them. You can imagine you have 16-year-olds, inventors and developers who have to stand before people and say, this is where AI is going. This is where the next generation is going. And they have every right because they're sitting before people who, this internet is something that wasn't something that was even fathomable during the time. They're not serving with it. Yes, when they were growing up. So even when you're standing before people and having some level of honesty, you don't have to now throw yourself under the bus and say, I'm incompetent. No, no, no. I'm a bit nervous. But that will require a lot of grit and confidence and courage. Yes, after some time. Because that would also come after a self-sabotage unconsciously anyways. Yes. And so people have to come up with different ways. That's why people have rituals. Basketballers, footballers, they have rituals. Before they get into a game, perhaps they'll just breathe in and say a prayer or something and ask. And also when you say ritual, it can be a little bit confusing. Let's say a ritual is something that you use to perform over time. Yes, over time. So that you do it. Yes, so that you do it. Even before hosting a radio show or TV show, there's something. Like for me, when I sat here, of course, the cameras weren't rolling. But when I sat here, let me tell you, any speaker of who's worked their salt, we'll tell you, we're always nervous. Yeah. It never goes away. So once I sat here, because I don't know what to expect. I'm human. I don't know what to expect from this audience. I don't know what you didn't prepare me with the questions. I just I just got a topic and I'm like, I'll go with the flow. So I don't know what you're about to throw at me. I don't know what you're going to discuss. And I'm just hoping that I'm going to give you the best of what I have. So when I sat in this chair and I just and I said a prayer to God and I said, I'm like Moses. I'm a stammerer in this situation. But you've taken me to Egypt. I'm facing Pharaoh and I have to speak. Speak through me. And then I went. And so I know that what I speak is divinely guided. So everything that comes from my mouth now from here going forward. I'm so sure if people are very keen from the beginning, I was a bit I started again. I'm going with the flow over time. Yes. So it happens to the best of us. That that is it's something that never goes away. So for people who are there and they want to get into communication, I can promise you even the best of them will tell you. They're always nervous. That is where you take time. And we call it absorbing the room. Absorb the room. You feed the energy. Yes. And then then you can proceed. And if you're if you're nervous, just say, you hear most people joke. I'm a bit nervous. I didn't know that this is what I'm going to expect. But you guys are pretty funny or you guys are and people laugh. I used to see it even in our class presentations. Our teachers used to judge that that even give you marks. Most of my projects actually were given marks for confidence and actually communication and the speech. Those speech techniques and there's something in that the creative aspect. So they would judge this one was creative in his delivery, but maybe a cook one accounted, but just the delivery part actually wowed the recipient. And as much as they didn't have facts and figures, but that's the delivery format was just amazing. That is why the best speakers are pastors, lawyers and ask motivational speakers because we know how to get away with big words. So someone can just come to stage, but they need hot air too. But they've riled the stage and politicians, by the way, those are the best public speakers because public speakers are just people who speak to the public. So pastors, they can come with hot air. Politicians hot air too. They've just riled the audience like, I want to listen to that politician again. They are really good at, you know, they come with the dance, they come with everything. And they know how to work up and work the masses. And there's someone who can come and say boring, but they have facts. You won't listen to them. They are some professors. They have too much content. Yes, too much content. But the way they speak, the delivery is just not pleasant. And that is why now with public speaking, now you have to learn how to, once you master, you absorb the room and you understand your audience and what they expect from you. Then you can know how to work up your audience. So it's a skill that you have to learn. It even happens to us in media. In fact, for you to be on this chair, you must be likeable and warm and sweet. Also radio, some of the best radio presenters, when you listen to them, you just want to continue listening because the way they communicate is so sweet and warm and the crispiness of their voices is exactly just captivating now. And something else I can tell you, when it comes to public speaking, what does, because public speaking is a skill and it's an art and a science. And the people sometimes who get it are the people who've been endured by nature. Because people who are born, I can tell it, you have a deep voice, you have a voice for radio, you have a voice for TV. So there are people who have, they have the voice. Most of the time we used to listen to Kinaniko Diambon, you're like, hey, man, say that dude. Hey, you see him all the time. You know, you meet them and they're like, the voice doesn't match. The voice is not matching the body. It doesn't match. Yeah, it doesn't match. Oh, Dr. Love, you guys, I wish we should meet Dr. Love. You will, a shout out, stay connected. Yeah, you get. So there are people who've been endured. And of course we call it, even for women, for TV or most women, of course, it's pretty privileged. And there are people who just because they are pretty and they're beautiful, they get access into rooms. Oh, Catherine Castleville, resting rooms. Yes. Ah, I mean, Catherine Castleville. For the long, like, those days, she was like, Shushu is today. You know, she was the one problem. Shushu, so you had to have a baby. Babes were Jesus. Yeah, we had a baby. So, you know, I think that time, we also, men used to phone over her. So it didn't matter. And that is why for most women, even in this particular dispensation, in our life right now, beauty can only take you so far. But the good thing about beauty, it can get you to the door. So you have to make sure that now you have substance to keep you there. So there are people who can get access into spaces. The thing that does not make them stay there is because they don't have the substance. That now retains them. So you can get an opportunity but not maintain it and sustain it. You can't sustain it because now you don't have the substance, you don't have the discipline, you don't have the commitment, you don't have the content. The skill. Yes, yes, yes. So for you, for instance, if you have, let's say for instance, you have that voice for a joint. Someone is like, oh, I need to have that voice in my studio. I used to be on radio. I want to go back now that you're talking about it. Yes, yes. So let's use you as the guinea pig here. So they bring you to, yeah, good guinea pig. So they bring you on set and they're like, oh, we love to hear that. I have this boy speaking somewhere. Let's bring him on set and let's see if he can do the job. And they give you that opportunity. Remember, you didn't have to do anything to impress them. You're just going about your business, you're creating your funny content on social media, some skit here and there and you're just talking nonsense. And then like that voice needs to be on radio. They bring you on radio. And so they expect you to have the work ethic that will keep you on radio. But because you lack the work ethic, you lack the discipline, you lack the commitment, you're not even consistent in the way you show up for work. They release you. So it's like your talent, you let him end our work. And people say, this person was talented. We expected them to go so far, but they just lacked the work ethic to keep them there. But it can take you far. It can give you access. Yes. So for young people back at home who are watching and maybe they want to be like you. Also, before you tell them how they can be like you, maybe what are some of the things that they should work on so that when it comes to 2024 as well, if they want to actually enjoy what you do, they can take down that journey and work it successfully. Okay. For people who want to get into communication? Right. Amma, that's what you're referring to. Yes, especially young people who are watching. Yeah. For anyone who wants to get into communication, understand what you want to communicate about. What do you want to talk about? Because you need to have content, the substance. What do you want to talk about? Do you want to talk about? You want to present, say, let's take it to the corporate world. Everybody, most people in the corporate world want to know how they can train their staff on how to dress for that particular organization. So you want to be, I don't know what's the term for it, but not outfit, but really what are they called? These people who take care of looks, how you look, how your presentation, yes, that one. Image consultant. You want to be an image consultant. Before you're given any opportunity to be an image consultant for any business, you have to present yourself, you have to learn how to communicate, and you have to tell them, hey, listen, I know that you are a particular caliber, this is how you move, this is what your story is, your culture is, and I can see that perhaps you're struggling in having your employees to follow up with the court in terms of how you dress them. And I would like to be here to train them, your executives and how they can keep up with the image, not only just in appearance, in their social media, how they present themselves to each other and to the world. But before you can, so you have to know what you want to do. Is that what you want to do? Is it, do you want to talk about culture? Most businesses are suffering in terms of culture. Values. Culture is about value systems of a business. So most businesses don't know how to retain their stuff because the culture is wrong. The culture and how people operate toxic environments, or there's discrepancies in terms of, there are classes within the teams, so they don't perform well, you know, performance. You want to be a performance coach, and that sort of thing. So understand your environment and your field where you want to get into, what do you want to talk about? Or do you want to motivate? So for me, sometimes I can do both. I can do team development and also motivate teams on how to be better. I believe that sometimes I get away with words so it becomes very easy to appeal into people's emotions and make them follow a particular script in terms of the organization and how they want them to be, or just to motivate them to be better individuals in the workplace. So for instance, if that is what you want to do to motivate individuals, there's so much content out there about motivational speakers. Would they do how they present themselves, how they speak? That is one too. You can't be an effective communication individual if you don't read. Because the more you read, it improves and it upgrades your vocabulary repertoire. So you have to learn how you have words. You can easily pick up any different words. Synonyms, you're very good at communication and you can, because this doesn't come easy. I mean, English is our second language. I was born in Bukusu, spoke Swahili boss of my time and usually because my lingua franca is English, I really have to like use English as my modis operandi. It's my bread and butter. So for me to become better at it, I have to read a lot and I read personal development books and I listen to these things a lot. So you really have to put in, you really have to put in the work. The way I said about Elon Musk, he says he's not a genius. He just does engineering every day. So he just doesn't wake up and select SpaceX. No, a lot goes into research. A lot goes into understanding the field. Even develop and creative development. Yes, yes, and understanding the field that you're in. So, unfortunately, nothing comes easy. You have to put in the work. Yeah, and it takes time. It takes time. And also in journalism, we are told a great and an excellent, fantastic journalism, journalist rather, is a good reader, good writer and a good speaker. Because that's what you do. In fact, writing, writing, writing, in fact, writing is why it's hard. Before you can even start speaking, I mean, I think you should begin writing because once you write, you're able to see what is coming from your head before you can even speak it to others. So once you say, hey, it is, is, and was, there, there's, you're like, hey, okay, I need to up my vocabulary and the way I speak. Yeah. But also context really matters. There's people who interpret things differently. For example, now I stood in a first impression that you can meet someone. Maybe they were good. For example, it's a panel of judges. They are judging this talent. Like I've said, I've been through so many auditions before I got here. Anyways, I feel like this dude is blah, blah, blah, blah. He can fit on radio and this one says, no, he's a little bit young, but yeah, yeah, yeah. So for first impression, do you think first impression is a good thing? It is, it is because it is. And should it be used as the final summary of who you are? Not necessarily because I think people need to give you some more time to prove yourself. And for you to be validated, it takes time, but the world is not fair. It doesn't build to be fair. So how you present yourself on the first day matters. It really does matter. And there are certain people who will give you, they will take a chance on you, but they will only take a chance on you once they can see something that is inside of you. Now I'll tell you this. Most VCs, venture capitalists, they usually don't invest. Most of them, you listen, you watch Shark Tank, you listen, you watch Dragonsten. Usually they do not invest in an entrepreneur who hasn't experienced any sort of failure or they don't have trauma. VCs don't invest in a product or they don't invest in a person. They invest in the story behind the founder. So they listen to your story. Oh, I want to build this business, I'm building this business because of people in Africa. Oh, these women, they are somewhere, they are struggling and they are taking care of their young children or these are teenage mothers. And so these products, if we sell them, the half of the money goes to take care of these people. And they're like, oh my goodness. And usually with the white founders, they're like, oh, you know, they're usually blown away by these charity cases. But usually it has to come from a story and they want to listen to a story. What do you have to say to them? So you first, before they can even put their money on you, they need to listen to a story and you have to be very good at appealing to their emotions. So once, if people can know how then to present themselves on the first day, so you can imagine you're going to a VC, it's Shark Tank and you have all these Sharks. They are ruthless. They don't care about your feelings, they don't care about your emotions. They only care about the story that you brought. Your product can be inefficient, your product can be incomplete, your product can have deficiency. But how do you present yourself before them for them to say, okay, your product has problems, but I have my network. I'm going to give you access into my networks to better this product and I'm willing to back you up. What is that? Your story and how you present yourself and you've only got one chance, one shot. So you really have to work on yourself. And you have to be brief. Actually, I was watching an interview. We have one minute, that's why I'm being told. We have one minute and then we go. There was an interview I was watching and they were talking about one of the award shows, those international like the BET, the Grammys, Oscars and the Emmys. They were saying that there was an award event where you are only to say five words in your speech, in your acceptance speech. Was it, I don't know, an Oscar award? So you have to have a choreographed warm and just a thrilling speech. So I can only marginally text to say, thank you for this award and adding something flavorful there. It requires a lot of mastery. And I can tell you for free, this is something now in that one minute that we have, imagine you are at the airport. And you're going to France or you're going to South Africa and then you see your favorite shark, whatever it is, your favorite shark or favorite sea or at the airport. They've got one minute. And you have only that one minute to impress them for them to give you your card. The next time they get back into the country to give you that sitting so that you can present yourself better. Oh, you did a miracle for that. Yes. So you have to learn how to communicate. You really learn how to compress your information and give it in like 30 seconds. Like just striking the attention of this person. And that means it takes time, consistency. I told you about the Steve Jobs thing. One week, a whole speech, one sentence at the end of it by the time he gets on stage. So it takes time. So for people who want to access you, book you up. Maybe just last one as you go. Do you feel like 2024 is going to be more of a life changing year? It's going to be eventful. Even when it comes to forums and spaces where you work. What is your prediction? I want your prediction. And also your manifestation, what you're thinking about yourself. For 2024 and last week. Yeah, when I began in the big, of course, in the beginning, I told you that I'm a believer. So because I'm a believer, I believe that God has my back. God is not going to bless me. God's blessing is not dependent on the economic status of this nation. It's not dependent on my geography. God will bless me however he wants, whenever he wants, wherever I will be. So I believe that 2024, regardless of what is going to happen in the economy, in the world, in the universe, there are people who made tons of money during COVID. So in the same in the same breath, I'm really hopeful that the people who are really, they have their belief, self-belief, and they do the work, they will figure it out in 2024. It is going to be a good year. Right. Yes. Amen. Your way of people can book you, find you in your punchline as we go. Your camera is here. Yes, Nangami Masakha on social media platforms. I'm not on X. I think that's the only platform. I'm not on X in Snapchat. I don't know. For some reason, it just never worked with me from the beginning. It's a space that I just never blended in. I don't know why. It's so engaging. It is. It is. I've heard that so many times that people tell me to get on there. But perhaps maybe I'm still a coward. It's very competitive. The X is incredibly competitive. And I'd really like to take care of my peace. So I'll go where peace is. Oh, you prefab. Yes. And you know when you're good at what you do, people will come and look for you wherever you are. So you told me about the punchline. I will leave people with this scripture. I've forgotten the book specifically, but it says, I rise and shine for your time has come. I rise for the glory of God is upon you. And then it goes on to say that nations will come to your light and kings will be drawn to your rising. So for me, I know that if I'm good at what I do, nations will come to my light. Kings will come to my, will be drawn to my rising. They will come where I am. I'm so good at what I do, they will seek me out. Amen. Yes. Hallelujah. So with my social media, again? Nangami Masaka. Facebook, TikTok, Instagram. I'm quite new. I don't have, anyway, I don't have to defend myself. Nangami Masaka, TikTok, Facebook, Instagram. Yeah. Please don't let that voice die. Thank you so much. I think we can talk all day. Make sure. From sun up to sun down. Right. All that your public speaker. Yes. Thank you so much for coming through and we appreciate it. Thank you for having me. All right. And at this point, we take a break. We haven't spoken to Nangami Masaka. Definitely. You've gotten a lot from this conversation and I'd like to hear your feedback on it on that hashtag which is why in the morning at Brian's Sanko 101, we take a break, we come back with much more. Stick around.