 You get your, yeah, some cows that have been killed in the slaughterhouse, so you get the iron from their blood. Yeah. Yeah. How do you feel about that? Well, if they're really into the welfare like, we're farmers, we love our animals, why aren't the farmers exposing other farmers' hellholes? They keep it quiet. Yeah. All right, so here we are out on the coast of beautiful Bondi Beach in Sydney. We set up the van. The van's for change. And, uh, very lucky our family member who would lend me this van, so we could try out a little van's for change prototype. We're also handing out, you know, in the spirit of speaking up for the rights of marine animals. Gardene, fishless fillets. Now, the reason I chose these is because they are pretty accessible in Woolworths and Coles in the freezer section, vegetarian section. And they're bloody delicious. So we're going to be giving these out for free, handing out some fish facts to people, pamphlets. We're also promoting sea spiracy, getting people to watch out. And on the screens behind us, we have marine animals, you know, some clips of how they're exploited and other clips of how they display amazing traits of intelligence. And on this screen here, we have the other animals because we don't want to forget the other animals either. All right, so let's cook some fishless fillets for people and educate them on marine animal rights. Let's do it. And we have the lovely Taz here behind us helping out on the tongs, flipping the fishless fillets, making them vegan sandwich gains. Thank you, Taz. You guys want some food? We're cooking free food for people out here coming up some sandwiches. Fishless fillets. We've got to reel them in, mate. Only ethical fishing we can do here. You all want one? One, two, three, four. Oh, can I get one without cheese? Oh, it's my apple cheese. Now, everything here is vegan. Are you vegans? So my brother and his girlfriend are both vegans, so we have vegan meals every three nights a week. I do, and this is one of those nights? Last night was probably, and I think tonight as well. Ah, well, cool. We're teaching people that fish actually feel pain and don't want to die, and then we're giving them fishless fillets so that they can try having a fish without a fish. Alternate, kind of. Yeah, well, yeah. We want to make sure people don't contribute to gratuitous amounts of suffering. The sea animals are... Also, overfishing is super bad for the environment. Yeah, it's true, yeah. And it's like one to three trillion fish are killed every year. Really? No livestock, like the livestock market, contributes to over 50% of big carbon emissions. Yeah, well, yeah, I know that, yeah. But it also is like what we're actually trying to do, we appreciate the environmental arguments because it affects us, doesn't it? But what we're trying to do is get people to empathize with the non-human animals that are being tortured and killed. So, yeah, it's like when you think about it, like if there was this horrible human rights violation happening that was also bad for the environment and people were focusing on the environmental aspect of it. But let's just say there was a massive slave farm of people and it was leaking feces into the ocean and we were like, well, this is bad for the environment. But then there's a bunch of people in there suffering. So this is kind of like what we're focusing on. But yeah, this is all Australian footage as well from inside farms and abattoirs. So investigators go in there and leave cameras in there and gather all this footage. So, wow. This will go pretty well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's cool. We don't actually make any money from this. We're just all about spreading the message and getting people to make different. We want people to put their money somewhere else. That's about where other people put their money. Yeah, there we are. Because when people pay for this, they might not realize, but like they just might be innocently grabbing a meal, but they've essentially subsidized some of the worst cruelty on earth. Just to animals that are like sentient beings that love cuddles and, you know, they feel emotions. But we treat them worse than the worst criminals on earth and they were just, they're only crime is to be born a different species, one that we've chosen to be food animals, you know? Yeah, I get it, man. It's, yeah. Yeah, I used to be part of the industry. Yeah, oh really, what part? Ah, a long time ago, probably 15 years ago, I was working in a marine research lab. Oh really? Yeah. They were testing on the marine animals? Not testing. I mean, it was trying to do aqua farms. Ah, fish farms. Yeah, yeah. Big business now, fish farms, eh? Yeah, yeah. It's taken over. I have a bit of insight and then when I saw this, I was like, kind of brought back memories of life when I was in the lab. Oh wow, did you see some horrible stuff in there? I did some horrible stuff. You did some horrible stuff? Yeah. Wait your turn. Good, because you recognize that fish are sentient and they feel pain and they suffer, obviously, yeah? And that's- Yeah, yeah, I mean, I knew that from the start, but I didn't know that when I was getting into the program. Came in as like a side note. So can you, I mean, if you're comfortable, explain to me something that really stuck with you that happened in there. Stuck with me. Yeah, like, made you feel like a bit of, almost like a trauma. Not just like using animals for research. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't feel right. Not at all, not at all. What was the outcome of the research? Do you feel like it was justified? It was justified, it was for medical research. For humans. Are you okay? Yeah, yeah. Did you get any valuable data that helped with the mission or was it kind of futile? Yeah, definitely, definitely. So data was valuable. The people working, they tried to be as, I guess, conscious as possible. They're all biologists, you know, they got into the industry to save the planet. Now that was the logic, but then... They end up torturing the animals. Yeah, that's why I left the industry. Yeah, because you felt like there was a bit of moral hypocrisy or you felt like it was wrong. Yeah, exactly, like I was morally defeated doing a degree, yeah. Because the animals, it's against their will, isn't it? It's not really a consensual partnership there. It's not like, hey, we need some testing subjects and they're like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're imprisoning them and then torturing them for our own ends kind of thing. I mean, on their sort of, I guess, you know, viewpoint, they were trying to do something to save the planet. The greater good. Yeah, finding alternatives, you know, like everyone's looking for a solution. And yeah, it's... There's some solutions that fall in the gray area as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we believe that one of the biggest impacts people can make, like, is by what industries they are helping to push forward and what industries they're helping to sort of, you know, boycott. Hey, bro. Hey, bro, how you going? He's a vegan. Oh, you're a vegan, bro. What's your name? Dave. Dave, good to meet you, Dave. More than five years now. More than five years? Good work, you're feeling good. You look amazing, mate. You're good. I'm vegan. Yeah, you should, eh? Vegan, shredded vegan. Here you go, brother. Thanks, bro. No worries, I want you to let us know what you think. These are a Godine. You get these at Coles and Woolies. They're good, man, eh? It's our fish and chips, eh? Yeah, nice. Do you want one? Help yourself. Come on, this is what we're here for. OK, OK, you go, baby, sit the bags. We can bring one to her. We can bring one to her, yeah, yeah, for sure. I'm so curious. Actually insane. Why aren't you guys vegan, then? Why are you just trying? I'm very, I'm very. What happened? How old are you? 15. 15, OK. I'm exceptionally high in division, and I don't like spending that much. So I need to eat iron until I'm, like, G'd from, like, meat, and then I'll probably go. So do you get the iron from animals like this? No, from, like, um, steak, steak, yeah. So from, uh, cows, you get your, yes, from cows that have been killed in a slaughterhouse, you get the iron from their blood. Yeah. Yeah. How do you feel about that? How do you feel about that? Like, not the best. Yeah, because you're drinking the blood of an innocent being that died, was murdered in a slaughterhouse to get iron. Yeah. But you know, I've got iron, you could kill me to get the iron, too, but would you? I know, I mean, like, there is that, there is that, like, kind of moral and ethical thing about that. Yeah, getting iron from, like, Technical, like. What about this? You, I'll give you a knife, you'd kill me to get the iron out of my blood, or I'll give you an iron supplement. No, like, I think, I know, because I'm actually. Hello. Would you like a sandwich? We're making vegan sandwiches for people. Yeah. They are these fishless, fishless fillets. Yeah. Fishless. Yeah, because we, uh, we don't want people to hurt the fishies. That's a good idea. Yeah, because we, uh, they have the capacity to experience pain like mammals do. And there's no, there's nothing protecting fish. They get treated like swimming vegetables and just tortured and, yeah. So, they suffer on the boat deck and suffocate to death and, yeah. This here, a movie we're promoting called Seaspiracy. It's on Netflix. Really recommend it and, uh, did you watch that? Yeah. You, well. And you still eat fish? I actually don't eat fish. I don't eat fish, but for different reasons. How old are you, though? Like, you were 15. 15, okay. I don't eat fish for different reasons. I don't eat it because of the microplastics. Ah, because of the, so for your health. Yeah. Yeah, not for the, the health of the fish. Who's this for? Who was next? Cheese and alioli. You've been waiting, you've been waiting longest. Who's been waiting the longest? One. You used to? You used to? It's the best. I'm so hungry and it's vegan. I can get vegan food. Yeah, yeah, you can. Online supermarket, cruelty free shop. I guess this is where, uh, but supermarkets, you can usually find vegan options on the online website. And they do delivery, like Woolworths and Coles will do delivery as well. So you can find vegan fish and vegan cheese and vegan alioli at Coles and get them to deliver it to you. Yeah, this is getting older. Get out of here. Yeah, are you not feeling well? I'm getting older. You're getting older? You don't look, you don't look old. That's what anyone says, I'm 70. You're 70? I don't, wow, you don't look 70. That's what they say, but really, I'm sure you're first. Wow. Wow. So what's going on? You're not feeling the best? Lower energy, yeah. Function the same? Get to shops like you can. Yeah. Okay, I get it. That's hard for you, I get it. Yeah, it's difficult, isn't it? Yeah, I know. And so I'm glad you're thinking about this even in the situation that you're in that shows you've got a very big heart. Well, I'm trying to eat what I like to. Yeah, yeah. Just vegetarian. Yeah, yeah. I mean, all those, all those animal products can't be good for your, you know, your body either, can they, you know, yeah. You want to try? Okay. Or on the screens here, we're showing people what happens to the animals. I'm already vegan. You're already vegan? Oh, well then you don't need any. You don't need any information. Do you want to, would you like to see what we're handing out anyway? We're handing out some, we're helping the fishers. Oh, that's nice. You're already helping the fishers, aren't you? Yeah. You're not our target audience, but we still love you because you're on our team. How long have you guys been waiting for? Thank you. Take care. And I hope you can find some vegan food to get delivered to you. That'll be really, yeah. Keep well. Yeah, have you seen these? They're actually quite nice if you mix in a bunch of vegan mayo, but otherwise they taste a little bit, I don't know. This is my party. Are you vegan or you're? Yeah. You're a vegan? You're a vegan. Oh, you're a vegan, but we'll still look after you because we're making our fish-less sandwiches. And wait a second, wait a second, wait a second. You also have to be challenge 22. Are you vegan? You're both vegan, aren't you? Three vegan food and all we get is vegan. You guys coming for food? Are you vegan or you're not vegan? You're vegan. Where are all these vegans coming from? Is there a vegan? Yeah, a lot. You're not vegan, no? I am vegan. You're three young vegans. This is crazy, dude. It's Bondi, guys. It's Bondi's vegan heaven or something? I'm sorry. You want to just one and share? Nah, that's all right, we'll get you some. Look, he's up, we've got 15 bags of fish-less fillets. We went crazy. Like, honestly, they don't sponsor me as well, I wanted to say. They don't sponsor me. We just went in the shop and bought them because we're supporting the product and like, I don't actually promote anything that I don't stand behind. So no one asked me generally to promote anything. Like, I just do it because I think I choose the one I like and I promote that one. Do you want a sandwich, brother? Fish-less fillet, come on, it's free. Yeah, just been surfing or whatever, mate. We're making some vegan sandwiches for people. These are the golden fish-less fillets, garden and we've got some vegan cheese and some alioli, you know, it's good. The good stuff, mate, the nectar, we're also just talking about fish, the capacity for the pain and about the Pacific garbage packs, 46% fishing nets, conspiracy on Netflix and we also got these little pamphlets which show you how to be a vegan. Yeah, are you a vegan? We'll make sure of that. No, of course, yeah. So this is basically all Australian animals in animal agriculture and this is a fishing industry. So we're focusing on fish, marine animals, which is why we're giving people the alternatives. Because one to three trillion marine animals are murdered every single year, one to three trillion, it's five million a minute. It's a lot of suffering. So people can have a sandwich, but we like try to get people to have a vegan sandwich. So what's the company called? It's not a company, man, I'm just an activist. Everything's for free. It's just about, we're just asking people like, we don't want your money, we don't want nothing from you. We just want people to stop paying for the animals to be abused, you know, that's it. Just like boycotting the animal abuse and something I'm trying to do for them because they can't really speak for themselves. Really nice to meet you, man. Take care, take care. Really nice to meet you, Joey. Yeah, hey brother, you want a fish to spill it sandwich? No worries mate, we'll hook you up with one. We've been in a couple of really big documentaries done recently. C-Spiracy? Yeah, C-Spiracy. Yeah, we're actually promoting it at the moment. We're actually promoting it here. And we're campaigning for the sea animals off the back of it. Because people, we do forget about the sea animals, even animal rights activists, because, you know... We're given a legal position of their own. Like a right not to be, yeah, because I think because they're aware, they're self-aware, they need the right not to be exploited and killed. Do you want the sandwich as well? One, two? Yeah, both would be fine. You both have vegan cheese and vegan mayo? Yeah. Ali Oli? Yeah, and are you a vegan? Yeah, you're not? I'm, I still eat dairy and that's what I'm trying to kick. Yeah. So, you know, the egg and cheese kind of stuff. Yes. You know, for me, I grew up in an angle, I need three veg, you know. So, it was, it was that kind of thing. Yeah. I just said like this is wrong, you know. Yeah, so you went vegetarian? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, and just... So, you had your own natural awakening? Yeah, and I, like, you know, I was kind of just, like I knew it all, but I was still eating it, and then I thought, if I don't change, the world will never change, you know? So, you could change yourself first, eh? It's like, there's no good looking at anything else and saying this isn't good, you know? That was like me, I felt like a hypocrite. Yeah, and it's this sort of thing of like, you know, I'd naturally sort of just move there as well. Yeah. So, I kind of, I wasn't eating, like, so much meat. Yeah. I was, it wasn't, it wasn't really my... It's kind of gross as well, man. Like, I went to sort of, now, if I taste, because I've been in so many slaughterhouses and farms, when I smell, like, I was at the fish market today, but there was a meat, like, a butcher there. When I walk into a butcher, I can smell it. It smells the same as a slaughterhouse. Yeah. So, I've watched animals be butchered inside slaughterhouses and it's that same smell of blood that you won't notice it if you walk past the butcher. But when you go to a slaughterhouse, you'll be like, that's that smell. And it's murdered animals, you know what I mean? So, yeah, it's our connection people have to make because they just see meat, they see the packaging, they don't see this sh**. Animals having their head cut off, like. But, yeah, dairy's are... Sort of that thing where, you know, especially for city people, they're so removed from there. Yeah, I get it, man. They go to the supermarket and that's all they experience. Well, I was eating massive... I used to get the steak cut off the side of the cow in the butcher. Like, and that was, you know, not long ago, like... Yeah, long ago you made a vegan pork. Eight years. But, yeah, for my whole life I was not vegan and I used to eat a lot of meat and I didn't even think about it. But then if I saw someone like hunting, for instance, I'd be like, what are you doing, man? Like, what's the point in shooting an animal for no reason? Like, I had mates that were shooting animals and I'd like lose it at them. But then I was like paying for the same stuff. Yeah, it's the exact same thing, isn't it? Hunting's nearly even better. It's probably better in welfare. Like, these animals have been tortured more but people will have posed to hunting, which I am too, I don't think shooting animals is good, but it's probably less suffering than what's going on. Of course. Yeah, yeah, so... And the thing is, it's also hidden. It's hidden from everybody, you know. Well, these cameras, who do you think left those there? Activists who broke the law to leave these cameras in there? Yeah, right. Because the government, I mean, not the government, so the industry won't... Yeah, they trespass, they don't hurt anyone, but they just leave a camera in there for a week and look at the footage. Everything else is covered up, it's behind closed doors. But what do you think they're able to see? We have to advertise this. You know, we have to expose the farms. The farmers never expose their own farms or other farmers' farms. You know what I mean? It's just bad for the whole industry, isn't it? Yeah, bad for the industry. But, you know... Money. We want farmers to farm us food. We need them. But we don't want them to do it like this. You know what I mean? So... But I actually made a documentary on dairy recently. It's called Milk Make Your Own Mind Up. And dairy's terrible. It's a horrible industry. Hi! Oh, we've got a whole party happening here. One for you, brother. And one for you. One for you, girl. Cheers, sir. Joey, man. Jimmy, good to meet you, Jimmy. Check out that information, man, and... What's the best stuff, guys? We watched the new Seaspiracy. You should watch the Seaspiracy. I've got that. Oh, you've got that? Check that out, it's on Netflix, but there's a bunch of others. Yeah, and this one here's Dominion. Dominion. So think of like Dominion. It's on YouTube. And it will go through entire animal agriculture process. Like, very educational. It's horrific. But it's something that you should watch, see what you're paying for, what you're consuming, what you're supporting. Yeah, it's just the awareness, isn't it? That's the main thing. What's your dojo called? Milk what? Milk Make Your Own Mind Up. That's about just focus, dairy focus. YouTube. Yeah, YouTube. Really good to meet you, brother. Take care. I hope you enjoy. Hey, thanks, Chef. Chef Taz, Jimmy says thanks. Thank you. We're trying to ask people not to like cause gratuitous amounts of suffering for animals for like a sandwich. People care about like, if I went and threw a plastic straw in the beach right now, someone would probably punch me in the face. But they'd probably have a fish sandwich in their hand. You know what I mean? All plants. So plants have a soul, soul and a consciousness. Do you think plants are self-aware?