 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Mind pump with your hosts Sal DiStefano Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews In this mysterious episode Mine pump for between zero to 45 minutes We think it's a good guess the introductory portion of this episode starts off with us talking about Organifies green juice with ashwagandha apparently sells on to something my sales technique of talking about how ashwagandha can increase your the amount of semen That comes out of your wing. It's actually true. What by the way, it's working more people are buying well We are sponsored by organifi if you go to organifi shop comm enter the code mine pump We've actually hooked up mine pump listeners with an exclusive discount Then we talk about Donald Trump's NFL national anthem Comments. Oh my the guy can't keep his mouth He just hates filters. Fuck Trump. No filter shut up. Then we talk about the monk debates This is actually an interesting was really cool, dude. Yeah, very interesting channel on YouTube should go check it out controversial topics get debated by intelligent individuals we talk about the Obama's and Netflix I guess they're friends now. What's going on there? Yeah, Obama and Obama's Netflix and a chillin. They all chilled together. Are they having sex? I don't know Then we talked about somebody called that operation mockingbird and Propaganda little conspiracy theory for you. Oh all over the place put on your tinfoil hat. Yeah We talked about the California groundskeepers lawsuit against Monsanto Oh Somebody has been playing fair. This could be a big one. Let's hope that hurts them a little this could be massive or not Like Justin's glutes. Yeah, then we talked about Morgan Freeman. Oh, this one hurt my heart He's being accused of inappropriate behavior. Yeah, fuck Shawshank redemption. 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Form it's an announcement. Do you guys see our boy Donald Trump commenting? What do you do on the NFL? What's going on? So let me back you up a little bit if you don't know What happened last we got it was last year beginning of last year or whatever with calling Kaepernick He decided I remember that he kneeled during the national anthem or whatever, right? So That created this whole ordeal and it's been going on since then it's been back and forth and back and forth And there's all this shit going on Again, you know at the end of the day Whether it was a good idea a bad idea right or wrong doesn't matter this choice at the end of the day It's now, you know, we've turned it into something that's dividing all of us Which I think is just ridiculous and the irony of it is this Protest is supposed to try it's supposed to be about equality and bringing us all together when in reality All it's really done is driven a stake between a lot of us and caused I don't think it's brought any good attention to any of this stuff Well, you know what it did is it on the it made people on one hand say, you know We're against police brutality, which I don't know anybody that's pro police brutality So, you know, I'm we're against it and then on the other hand you have people saying hey, you're against America and you're against the cops And then there's people on the other side saying all cops are bad and everybody's racist and the other side People are saying hey, you know, I know people who are good and we're not and it's like that's not the point man That's not the point at all. I I will say this Uh, I don't think what the call and did was a smart career move which I think is obvious, but The dude is Being peaceful about his protest and as you know, and I wish everybody had that the balls to do something like that And just to be whatever your protest is so you have to appreciate that so the fans don't like it I'm kind of I'm back. Well, no some did, you know, I'm back and forth on like Okay, so what happened was so now they have now they've made it a like and it was already in the books Like it was already something that you're supposed to do as as your job title of being a player You come out to the national anthem and you stand for the national Do you know why? Huh? Do you know why they have to do that? That was a deal they made with the the military Oh, I didn't know. Yeah, they're getting Dana fell gets paid If I'm not mistaken someone correct me if I'm wrong. So listener if I'm wrong Let me know but I do remember reading that this was a deal like That makes sense to me. Yeah, and I see here's the thing though Is that any different than us being sponsored by Organifi? You know I'm saying like it's our responsibility to yeah, we use it Yeah, we've decided to partner with companies that we believe in but part of that deal is that we have to bring up bring it up and talk about it So part of the NFL's deal with the the military. Okay. We're funding or we're doing we're supporting So therefore the way you can show support is by having your employees i.e the NFL players Stand during the national anthem What I think is funny is that we we turn it into this whole free speech and the you know It's a black white thing. It's the quality thing. It's it's all this. It's actually it's actually pretty simple It's a company that's requiring you to do something You decide not to totally freely totally voluntarily, right totally up to you The company also has the right to have the right to be like, hey, you're not gonna do what we want And you can go work someone else and that's fine. That's right. That's just the biggest good, you know show in town Yeah, yeah, see the the the pentagon did pay the end. That's an you know, what's interesting about that is how We don't realize how much propaganda is put out there to promote patriotism and nationalism so that people because we have a voluntary, you know military force And when people are feel good about america, you get more people enrolling when they feel bad about it You get less people and dude, we've done You know, it's an example of how well of a job we've done is that camouflage is an actual fucking style You're so true camouflage is a fashion statement. I bought the shoes, right? Exactly. You just bought a pair of shoes that are camouflage That is how well that we have they sold it. Well, yeah It's how well we have sold this to you that we are out fucking wearing camouflage You know, if you'd make a movie that's military based like if you're showing like jets and tanks and stuff like that you can actually Get funding from the military And they will they will let you use some of their stuff in your movie So long as you paint them in a patriotic light So if you're doing a movie that's like total anti-us anti whatever I mean, you can do it. You're free to do that. They're just not going to get any any funding or whatever No, no, no, how crazy is that? Yeah, that's crazy. Isn't that insane? So yeah, so now they've came out made an official rule that you know, they can be fine And of course, here's the thing about donald trump And I know i'm glad i'm bringing this up right now because I think a lot of times people think they were so pro Donald on some of the things that he's done I definitely think the way he He explained it was really ridiculous Yeah, I think I'm not right with the way he explained it. Yeah. Yeah. No, he was just what did he say? Well, he basically just said you could you can get out of our you know If you don't want to stand for the whole like speak english or get the fuck out of here kind of like, you know Like old school kind of talk, you know, like I don't know I was insensitive, but you know, I was having this conversation yesterday with jessica because we were watching, um It's the monk debates. Have you guys seen this? I sent you I sent you a link adam It's the monk mu nk debates. It's this channel and I guess they've been around for a long time The dark web one no no no no well, um, you have the dark web intellectuals on there or whatever, but It's this this channel. I found on youtube Where they'll do very controversial subjects and they'll have opposing views and they'll have representatives From each of you that's very intelligent So they're not going to pick like an idiot from one side and a smart guy from a it's it's a smart guy from one side smart person from another side Arguing and debating in a civil manner And what I love about it is first off. It's totally a new media thing This would never exist in old media because it's it's very objective non-biased They let people speak There's certain rules you have to follow and here's my favorite part at the beginning of the poll Or at the beginning of the debate they asked the audience How many of you agree with this side? How many of you agree with this other side? And they'll get the percentages at the end of the debate Oh, how cool. Yeah at the end of the debate the winner is the one that was able to sway the other side more So like I watched one yesterday. Uh, that was called, um political correct correctness or progress and on one side you had like the You had uh, what's his name? Michael Dyson, michelle, uh, goldberg on the other side You had steven fry and jordan peterson and at the beginning of the debate They said which side are you on to the audience now more people were on the side of Steven fry and jordan peterson in terms of political correctness like it's gone a little crazy and and you know We think this is not it's not progress at this point And so the split was something like 30 70 at the end though The the people that were on the side of fry and peterson went up six percent So they won the poll and I like the way they do that because it's not like Who has more people on each side? It's who can convince the other side more effectively So they got six percent over the other. But anyway, there's all kinds of of debates on this There was one where it was like is religion a positive force or whatever and on one side They had like a very prominent atheist on the other side. They had I forgot who it was I think it was uh, I don't remember who it was, but it's very intelligent debates And so we were having this conversation. I would love to go see one of these live I want to be on one of these motherfuckers one day. I really I'm not nowhere near ready to do I can see that but I would love it anyhow. So the the and they talk about very controversial subjects like gender Or you know feminism or whatever things that people don't want to touch abortion whatever, right? So I think it's fascinating. I think stuff like this is going to explode But I was having this conversation with jessica and I was like, you know This whole like this this extreme political correctness like vibe that's been happening where You know, you had this when I remember when bush was in office People thought I was a hardcore liberal And at the time I was pro-liberty just like I am now, but people thought I was a liberal because Bush, you know, he pushed the the patriot act which with spying on americans He went into iraq when we shouldn't have they you know at the time republicans were super Pro drug war like make stronger laws and throw people in jail So I've I fought against all that shit as much as I possibly could and I marched for For gay marriage and all because this at the time everybody was against gay marriage But especially the conservatives and then obama comes in office and Who I voted for the first time by the way who and then he just went crazy and became and started promoting super kind of socialist ideals and Big super big government and he was voting for the things that he railed against bush for So then I was against him quite a bit and people like oh, you're super conservative I'm like no no here's a deal like I'm very consistent with my views But my point is with this is that whole movement. I'll give you a good example gay marriage Gay marriage in 2008 Even obama campaigned against that nobody supported it and when the polls showed that americans supported it Of course the politicians jumped on board because they don't stand on principle. They only fucking try to get elected popularity. Yeah, it's bullshit But you know gay marriage gets gets passed rightly so that was I was always very pro like look if the government's gonna issue a license for marriage Which I think is stupid to begin with but if they're going to they should It's a it's a it's a license from the government Which means two adults who are voluntarily entering into it should be able to do it man woman Whatever, it doesn't matter right, but then you have a case where like You know people are going to go to a baker and say hey bake me a wedding cake for my my my gay wedding And the guy says why don't want to and they sue him and then I'm like wait a minute, dude This is going too far like that's his business and he's an asshole I think he's stupid for not baking you a cake and we should definitely boycott and put pressure on him But making a law right against that That's going a little too far and it started pushing so hard Where the reaction was donald trump. He's totally the fucking He's like the the mirror the opposite mirror image of the extreme Ridiculousness that you see with this crazy political correctness movement And you know like these these you know what they'll call the radical left Yeah, how people can't remove their emotions and just kind of like look at that As what it is like so if I'm a business owner and I have specific views like Uh, you know, that's my opinion. That's my right as as an american, you know, just like anybody else's rights But yeah, like you said you can boycott the shit out of him. You'll suffer black ball Yeah, they're not going to do good in business and rightly so but I think you're an asshole If right if you base that on someone's you know race or sex or whatever I think you're an idiot as a business person Well, don't you think you're an asshole? Don't you think the idea is the same as the the idea behind that or trying to stop that is like the same as like segregation was It is but here's the difference what the civil rights movement was necessary and it wasn't to Uh, it wasn't necessary to eliminate racism. It was necessary to reverse government Uh, discrimination remember at the time you had government laws that segregated people You know what I mean? You had water fountains and schools and places that were that were government, you know Properties that were the ones segregating the most they were the one remember businesses And of course at the time there were definitely racist businesses But businesses had to they pay the consequence of especially today and you got to look at the context too It's 2018 Good luck being a successful business and being a racist a sexist or a bigot like good luck You might be able to succeed in your little town and have your little tiny business You ain't gonna become a national business No at all and if you're a big enough asshole with things like twitter instagram facebook social media whatever It's not hard for me to make it hard for you To conduct business if you're an asshole and that's the way it should be it should be social pressures But this whole life and at the end of the day look if I have a house If you know, I own my house right let's say and I don't want to let you in my house because I don't like your face You know, let's forget your race and your sex. Let's say I just look at you I'm like, hey, I don't like your face. You got a mustache and you got a stupid looking nose I'm an asshole You know, but it's my house Yeah, you know what are you gonna do make a law that says I have to let you in my own house So what's wrong with your face? Yeah, so so this donald trump and his his ridiculousness with some of the stuff that he says And it's it's a react. It's just it's a fucking wrench that's the throwing at the other side Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's like come on man Really you're gonna make a big deal about this fucking nfl thing and you know, yeah He's peacefully everybody has the right to protest. Yeah, you can't fucking take that away No, I agree. I think you absolutely just as just as equally the employer can say exactly I don't value as an employee enough double-sided coin I was listening I was listening the radio this morning and they were talking about like, well, you know, I just I think the nfl should be able to do what they want with it And honestly, I'm going to do differently for per player like I don't value callin callin cappernick as much as I value erin rogers If erin rogers decided to fucking take a knee I might listen I might I mean and we might have a conversation around it Well, callin cappernick you might lose your job over that because I don't think you're adding that much value to my fucking team See you later, bro. You know what I'm saying like, why do you think the nfl made the fine? Did the whole fine thing, right? I think they did that because the the uh consumers of the nfl Yes, the pressures have spoken. Yeah, and and they're saying we don't want to we don't want politics and football We don't really care. Yeah, you know don't do that You're seeing it a lot lately and like in the Oscars and I mean there's just I think that It's interesting because there is like a lot of eyes and views and and so it's like it seems like a good opportunity to like Have a message and put it out there and like get attention, but Um, it's just like, you know as a consumer You're like, oh, here we go. You know, we're gonna politicize like an entertaining thing that I'm watching, you know Shit and I've I've done a lot of thinking about Colin Kaepernick and Celebrities tend to get on my fucking nerves when they when they when they speak out about certain things Mainly because they're massive hypocrites all of them. Most of them are massive hypocrites Colin Kaepernick on the other side on the other hand has taken a massive hit in his paycheck And his career during the arguably the best years of his of his competitive, you know life So I respect him for that what I don't respect are the celebrities who like Like gun control. We need to ban all guns. Meanwhile, they have bodyguards with guns surrounding them It's like well, it's easy for you to say Yeah, because you got bodyguards with guns protecting your fucking ass and then you know What about the single parent that lives in a shitty neighborhood who feels like they're gonna get robbed or whatever Or the woman who got raped and now she wants to carry a gun to make herself feel safe Like there's a big difference there, but Colin He's paying the price. He's paying the price for his views and so he can write a book later on This film make my America's already proven. That's the model right there. You kill your wife and then write a book later on to make Oh my god That was the reference there, you know How the NFL fucked me, you know, right? Yeah, right and then that's a good point. It is I mean, I don't know man. All the attention that he's getting from it Is it like maybe his NFL career was done anyways and going out with a bang like this now give some another platform to To sell a book or to do something else like I don't know I but I'm with Justin. I'm like I watch football to watch football. I'm watching fucking football I'll fucking tune in to CNN. You know, I'll just stop with this shit CNN or fox news if I want to hear fucking bullshit Well, even then it's like if you're so like like don't like put the cameras on it You know, like whatever if like you're so like what like they're just stirring it back up and trying to create controversy And it's just like I don't know man. Like I just I just want to watch football I know I don't want to watch the game. Yeah, I get like that a lot of times too when I'm watching something I'm like, all right, dude. Yeah. Yeah, I know you're you feel important Yeah That's enough But it is better than like remember when everybody's protesting on like freeways and like blocking shit. Yeah Dude himself like come on like that that's that's where it's like it's dangerous This country has a as a long history of of protest and the most successful Protests Movements have always been peaceful Civil disobedience, right? That's that's the winning non-violent That's the winning track record because what happens when you're violent and angry or you destroy property Is you get a strong? Reaction, you know if if you're protesting against You know, let's say there's a there's a people who there's a bunch of businesses that don't want to you know Serve homosexuals or or you know gay men or lesbian women or trans checks sexuals And you're protesting against them And you destroy their property Or you're trying to enact laws against them You're gonna get a strong reaction and then you're gonna get people like me who I'm being forced to defend them, you know, I don't agree with them But I have to defend their that you're being violent against them and you end up losing now if you do it peacefully You you fucking went Martin was the king proved that you proved that model gondi. Yeah very very well I mean, it's it's a time-tested method that that works. I mean, it's it's powerful. I was watching this Talk by uh, what's his name? He's this he's a he's that priest. I told you guys about brilliant, uh Guy I can't remember his name Bishop something Bishop baron and he was talking about how what it means to turn the other cheek And he said it doesn't mean you run away in fear It means if you get hit you turn your face and you say go ahead and you know and do that again Reflect the other to the other person your own Terrible violence like imagine if you React and rage against someone and you throw something or you hit them and they just stand there and they don't react to you They don't show you anger or whatever They let you Reflect and try that again now you may get that may cause some problems, but again Look at how martin luther king did that in in when they would do these peaceful protests And the police would be violent against them and that shit got caught on camera started a national movement Oh, yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, so that that's that's really the way to do it And so when I see people peacefully protest even if I disagree with them Um, I I respect and appreciate it takes a lot of courage takes a lot of strength And control and I see people who really actually You know care about you know, what they're what they're saying that they care about Did either of you get a chance to look at the post that somebody did on our forum regarding uh, netflix? No, what's going on there? Yeah a little bit. Yeah, I was something about um Yeah, like behind the scenes like with obama like some motivation there What was that all are they working with netflix or something like that? Well, they were somebody had posted on the forum just the the strategy that that they are trying to do man It's uh, I'm trying to find it for us right now. So we can look at it. I thought for sure that you had read it I didn't know that was just conspiracy theory I do know that they're working that they're somehow going to be putting together programming or something like that with uh with netflix So what the the idea behind the article or whatever they were saying that the the strategy behind netflix is just they They're and they're getting all this backing and funding to grow and build this huge massive network And then eventually what's going to happen is we're going to get fed a bunch of this propaganda within within it It says that the the headline i'm reading is the obamas will be on and off camera in unique netflix Deal So they're signing a deal to produce shows now the Obviously what's going to happen with these shows is they're going to try and push a some kind of a narrative Which you would expect from right politicians or no different than the what's your health or anything else? Right, I mean it's already on there. Exactly. There's like different exactly. Yeah, there's different motivations all over the place I think it yeah, whatever like if they have a motivation and what yeah exactly don't watch it or you know Like if another one that kind of serves you better, you know, I'm sure they're gonna allow that on the platform too I prefer I prefer to watch I love watching uh stuff like that because Let's me see the best arguments of Every side right and then I can make a better it helps me make a better decision Many times I watch I'm like, are you kidding me? This is so Terribly skewed, but sometimes I make a good point, you know, and it makes me think, you know And so I implore like if you're listening you're a hardcore conservative Like go whatever they do go watch it and see break it down Yeah, break it down and see what the you know what the thought process I think the people that are afraid or the ones that are afraid that where it's going to be in the next 10 years When it's like, you know, will it eventually look just like a you know CNN or a Fox news channel where it's like eventually super motivated just from one angle Yes, like I mean maybe right now there's like a lot of variety and there's it sprinkled in there, but You know fast forward 10 15 years. Well, that would be unfortunate I mean, I would hope that they would allow, you know, like multiple opinions and different like agendas, you know Within their platform. They're just a platform, you know, like that would suck if they became Like a Fox news or like a CNN or like something that was slanted Well, don't you predict that that's how I mean, don't you think that that's how that probably Happened for Fox and CNN and so that I mean, I'm sure that when it first started as a channel It wasn't a bunch of like hardcore conservatives to get together and say like let's make a conservative channel They probably made a channel and then conservative news used to be much News used to be reporting right and so what happened what happened with with news is And news is always there's always been implants and I mean, that's this the conspiracy theory Did you guys ever watch the HBO show newsroom before no? Oh Great show. No, there's a I think it's called operate. Maybe Doug can look this up operation mockingbird or something like that This was a real CIA Program where they were going to implant people in media to try to you know sway public opinion or whatever And I think it was exposed to the freedom of information act a large-scale program in the United States CIA that began the early 1950s that attempted to manipulate news media for propaganda purposes So they've been in they've been you know, and I wouldn't doubt look here's a deal The CIA is kind of like the secret government people realize They're given a lot of power and it was created during the Cold War And what people need to understand is during the Cold War. That's why I'm so fascinated by it We literally were dealing with the potential destruction of the world for real And so we did a lot of shit that under that pretense under that context And so when you're looking at oh fuck, they've got nukes pointed at us and we've got it at them And we could all kill each other everything's on the table like all of it, you know, I mean like well What if we do this plan where like operation northward where we we stage a terrorist attack to Miami? So the American public supports invading Cuba because the Soviets are putting missiles in Cuba That's kind of on the table when you imagine that well, shit They could nuke us all and we all die, you know, I mean So the CIA was created under that context in the sense that it's kind of this shadow government that that operates outside of The constitution and does shady shit and has money coming in that nobody knows about and you know, they sold drugs For a while they dealt with that in order to get money that nobody knew about and this is all somewhat confirmed it's still kind of conspiracy-ish but but you know As far as the media is concerned I 100% if if you're in the CIA and that's your job to sway public opinion because you know, we are a democracy Why wouldn't they do that? And the way that news used to be it was reporting you had journalists that would just tell you This is what happened. Here's this here's that and then We got these 24 hour news channels that got created I remember I don't remember what the first one was the first 24 hour news network I think it might have been cnn if i'm not mistaken where it was 24 hours a day news Now, how do you have something reporting? 24 hour news that that was kind of insane at the time because at the time you had newspapers and then you had the news come on Once a day like we need news all the time So this is when they started creating these shows where you had these Opinion these journalists with opinions. So now they would report the news But then they also debate and discuss and have opinions and which ones do you think got the most ratings? I had the opinions, of course and the more Charge they were or the more divisive they were the bigger and better ratings just go up the ratings were and so A lot of them kind of sway kind of went to the left a little bit And I think fox was like that counter where they found like oh shit a lot of people want These conservative views and honestly, I think part of it is they're probably working with each political party To promote their ideas. I think that's definitely happening But I also think that the public pushes it to the extreme Because who's the ones that are going to get the most is it the loud fucking divisive guy? Or is it the calm kind of objective? You know what I mean? Who's gonna get more more attention, right? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's the unfortunate truth. I mean we definitely as consumers have Made that happen because that's what we told them we wanted to watch And so that's exactly what they gave us and then we wanted all these charged opinions Because the drama of it and all this shit and now we lost like good news Yep, and I think what's interesting with new media is it's so hard to control That worst and you still see extremism In new media you actually see it quite a bit But new media is interesting in that the long form is getting more popular like You know tv and I think it's tv was so expensive with ads and all that shit Where they would do sound bites and they'd edit it to make it sound exciting on youtube A lot of people are posting like full interviews and full like without editing And those are the ones that are getting lots of views because people want to hear the whole story Which is different than before, which you know, I really appreciate that. Yeah, that's good. So anyway to change change topics a little bit Just read this article two days ago That in june There's a california groundskeeper who's taking Monsanto to court. Oh, I saw this what? Yeah, and he's they're making a claim that monsanto hid the cancer den dangers Of their glyphosate, you know round up the famous weed killer This could be Huge like this could be massive now monsanto and these big biotech companies have Incredible amounts of power incredible wealth not just well nationally not just wealth, but um, they're you know These these companies work with farmers that plant all these crops that get government subsidies And so you can't separate it's hard to separate government from well It's the new standard because they've created these these seeds that are genetically engineered to be able to you know resist Uh insects and like all like it's it's reliable, right? And so it's like, you know as a farmer like it's a tough That's a tough decision a tough place to be it is but he's he's gonna say hey you guys New of the cancer dangers and you guys hit it Kind of like I think they're taking a page out of um, like big tobacco would happen with uh, you know tobacco agent You know industry when they were saying oh, it doesn't cause cancer doesn't cause cancer Even though they knew that there was a a cancer connection So I think that's the direction going if Monsanto loses something like this Expect to see a shit ton more lawsuits going that way Oh for sure because they're like the leaders in it And it's it will be so disruptive to the way that we do farming. It will be an interesting thing. Do you think you think it'll stand up? I hope it puts a bunch of black eyes out there, man. I I think I don't think it will. I don't know I don't know. I don't either. I don't that's why I hope here's why I don't think it matters It feels like the market's already going away from that. Anyway, doesn't it? Like, you know, uh organic and non-gmo and all that stuff You know, we say that a lot on the show and sometimes I feel like that's us being in our own little bubble Yeah, I think that but I also think they'll find ways around it You know, they have so much money and power and influence and you know in the farming communities that Like I'm sure like they have like other plans like You know from from where to go from here if if everything's going in the organic direction Well, we're kind of screwed now because most I think something like 70 to 90 of all products that aren't organic Labeled organic. Well, no, they just have They they're they're GMO. So if it doesn't say organic on it The odds the good odds are that that it has GMO because they've dominated the market now They're such a huge market share or most crops most corn most soy most cotton You know is is GMO and even wheat that's not GMO is sprayed with glyphosates because now they use it to To kind of get it ready faster or whatever. It's part of the process But when they first got introduced to the market in the I want to say the early 90s They didn't make up a big percentage. They were making up the market at all. They weren't they weren't even there Then when they introduced them in the market, they actually were sued Because you know, if you have GMO corn I don't have to label that as GMO corn So when I put my corn product on the on the shelf next to your corn product, that's not GMO The consumer doesn't know the difference and they wanted it that way They don't want nobody to know the difference because if they labeled Genetically modified on there for sure, they would have never achieved 80% fucking, you know 1994. Oh, yeah, they would have never you know Penetrated the market the way they did and it went to court and they the supreme court. I think it was the supreme court Voted that they didn't have to label it. The deciding vote Was I believe uh, justice clarence thomas who used to I believe used to work with these biotech companies a little conspiracy theory there for you But if they had labeled it early on because anything else you do in the market, which is kind of strange If I put a product together that I patent So it's a patented product. It's my product that I created Typically I have to label it to separate it from my competitors. Like I can't put out like a phone that looks like apple And not say that, you know, if I do that and I don't say it's apple, I get sued, right? Right Everything else works that way gmo's don't so nobody knew that they were buying gmo products in the hell Like I remember back when we were voting like this is a couple I don't know if it's a couple years ago, but they had that law to reveal Whether or not it was you know gmo and in california. I could not believe that didn't pass Probably because the the science is inconclusive on so many things That's why I guarantee they hint they leveraged on the on so much of that Well, also the the amount of money that comes in from gmo Companies and crops because they spun it like I mean What consumer wouldn't want to know just have a label on there Like doesn't make any sense to me not from a consumer doesn't but they battled it in court off the off the Us not being able to prove that gmo's are technically that harmful And also the cost it's the same thing that we get into debates with people in our space That are pushing so they got like an appeal for it. Like we did the vote pass is what I'm asking So if you look at california, you know, we're the bay area on the coast, you know We make all the money whatever but a lot of california's farm massive percentage of california Is farmland and I a lot of it was hey if they forced us to label Cost is going to go up. We're going to have to lay people off. We're going to change things It'll and so a lot of jobs on the line I see and and so I think they spun it like that the consumers aren't winning the vote there, right? Yeah, it's the employees and the employers And I'm not pro like you have to you know I'm not pro you have to you put labels on on things and stuff like that. I I'm anti Like being deceptive. That's all so like if you if you patented it Which fine if you don't patent it then do whatever but if it's patented And you're trying not to let anybody know you have it. You're playing both sides Yeah, come on because they're trying to say oh, it's a natural product. That's why we don't have to label it What do you mean you patented it? You're not supposed to be able to patent Natural products. Oh, no, you know what just came up in my feet right now Dude women accuse morgan freeman of inappropriate behavior now. No way Damn they keep dropping like flies. I liked morgan freeman so much. Yeah, he had the best voice Yeah, dude, that's fucking such a bummer. Oh man all these fuckers. Yeah Yeah Literally Right Yeah, I can't believe that. You know, it's man when you're when you're oh that was part of that article with netflix So remember when I told you I think there's a conspiracy remember when I was talking shit about that way back when It so part of that article is is leaning towards that netflix is part of the responsibility of taking down hollywood And that's all part of part of this why all these hollywood stars all these people are falling because I remember when he joked about that I was like no way Yes, that's the theory behind that whole that whole netflix post Same thing is that these guys are part of all these people falling are these guys that are making sure that they're falling And so they're really they're rebuilding a new hollywood, which will be netflix for us our kids kids, right? Won't even refer to hollywood anymore as hollywood. Hollywood's dead. Hollywood will be dead You know, it's dying right now and they're they're accelerating it right now by exposing all these people And they're building up new stars and celebrities on on on netflix So maybe that's Behind they're behind the one thing that I don't like about or the way People operate is all you have to do is make an accusation and then that person Fuck so that's I'm not I don't know if he's innocent or not, but it doesn't matter No, when you've been on that in and I've been on that in before it's a really fucking shitty position to be on It's it really sucks when You're you're at a place where people can make an accusation like that And because it's so damning that it doesn't matter if it's true or not You've now become associated with that and now you have this this, you know You're tainted. Yeah. Yeah, that's uh, who was it that there was a football player that um college player who got accused of rape got kicked out And I believe went to jail and then was released because then the girl came forward and said And this is like after he'd been in jail for a few years So I lost his career. Yeah all that stuff. She comes out and says she lied dude and that happens I know and see that's what I'm always waiting to go to jail. Don't you think she's inclusive? Yeah, like that definitely she should go to jail. Yeah, I definitely think she taints the whole I mean stuff like that is what it sucks because if you know like real victims like get raped like You're you're fucking that up, you know like by doing stuff like that and you're fucking up that guy's life Like deliberately I'm always suspicious when I see things like the article that Doug just pulled up a minute ago and it's like You know inappropriate behavior like what the fuck does that mean what constitutes inappropriate behavior in your eyes? Because I weaned it's yeah, because I I wink or blow a kiss at some chick Like you mean to tell me like and I did that to eight girls that worked for me at one point and now I'm posted all over cnn It's like this yeah This guy who everyone now is associated with like a rapist or someone like god I've never seen the show mad men like that's like how like business like used to be back in the day It was all inappropriate. Yeah, and I've seen I've seen both men and women be extremely What would be considered inappropriate, but depending on the context, you know Yeah, I mean I this thing I was working at a restaurant and got you know molested My manager, you know like she was just like come, you know grab my ass and like you know grab my junk You know random I didn't you know do anything about it Well the difference is though you didn't feel threatened. I'm sure no, but yeah, I'm not I'm not comparing it to yeah Somebody it's like a rule. I'm just saying that like you know inappropriate like I could that could be a labeled inappropriate behavior But yeah, you know, well, I'm I tell you what this this highlights something quite interesting And it's this this it's a bit of a grand experiment that men and women Work together quite a bit and what I mean by that is I don't think that they shouldn't work together But I think that having a bunch of men and women work together and then expecting Zero like no sexual tension. Yeah, that's like I mean that's against human nature And it's and now you need to have some personal responsibility of course gotta control yourself Yeah, and there need to be there need to be some kind some hard like line Like this is what you don't do type of thing and you can't leave it so much up to the discretion to the other person Because then it's like this fuzzy Like for example like if if a girl likes a guy and then he says Damn, you got a nice body. She's not gonna feel she might not feel like that's that's uh, you know I'm inappropriate if she doesn't like the guy and he says that Definitely could get him in trouble and fired And so what I mean is you know, it's we're in this kind of strange You know fuzzy and I'm not talking about outright like You know assault or touching someone That's an excellent point And it's kind of not fair for either party in that situation because you don't know if you're that guy, right? Are you the guy that she does like me? And so me throwing signals at her whether that be winking or flirting with her somehow is not a big deal Or she just totally repulsed by me and then I'm doing that and so she's turned off and now it's like you said I'm inappropriate. Yeah, so and it's just I mean it's it's a growing process We have to learn how to work together talking about working together I have a story for you guys that's more fitness related since we've been all over the political page here So Katrina works with this girl who is pregnant right now And we were talking about it last night because she's like, you know hun You know, I I really feel like there's not a lot of things that I ask for your help and I need your help in but You know When I get pregnant, I feel like I'm gonna need your help and I'm like, what are you talking about? She's like, well, I just I don't know how I'm going to feel and it's very important to me that I stay Healthy and in shape and the feed the baby this way this and that and I see A lot of my girlfriends and the pressures they have and like and she's talking about this girl at work And she's like, you know, she's this real fit cute girl and she's you know, a couple months into our pregnancy and The the office thing right now is defeat her like everybody brings her donuts and cookies and you know Like every day she's getting it and she's just like and she's like she's got a sweet tooth already So it's already a challenge for her to say no to all that and Katrina's telling me She's like, you know, she would never be eating this much if it wasn't for all these people that keep kind of like and they keep telling her like No, you gotta feed that baby It's you know, and they're like force feeding her and I think that it's just kind of not force feeding her She's not they're not literally shoving the donuts but I mean They're putting that they're applying that pressure every day and encouraging her that she's eating for two and make sure You're eating and make sure the baby is fed and and it's funny that we have this culture around that that You know that when a woman is pregnant that she's really eating for two And I was explaining to her not only is that completely Wrong, you don't need that many more. No, it's about 130 to 150 and what's crazy when I told Katrina is That's based off of your same expenditure naturally where you're at and your movement if that changes that changes too Yeah, so if you move less because you're pregnant, right which happens, right? You get pregnant your low back starts to hurt your fatigue your hormones are all over the place So you probably take some naps. You're tired. So your knee gets dropped significantly Then you're being told by your doctor or your friends that you need to be feeding and eating more And you don't not only do you not need to be eating more? And if you were actually keeping up your activity level and you're also pregnant Then it's only about 130 to 150 more calories Obviously depending on the person, but I think I think Katrina's would eat You mean you guys are very health conscious and you guys eat healthy now. I think she'll eat even healthier Uh when she's pregnant because your understanding of health and nutrition is not You know, I think a lot of people they go crazy when they get pregnant and they eat whatever because the relationship to food is not good Right, but if you have a good healthy relationship with food and you look at it is like taking care of myself loving my body Whatever when you add a child to that, I don't think I feel like it intensifies one or the other Exactly, right. So yeah, it's like if you already have bad poor relationship Like it's just gonna like heighten because now it's an excuse or on the other end of that You're gonna be researching and you're gonna be like, oh, you know, I'm gonna get all the the essential You know minerals nutrients and things I need, you know to really help this baby foster and grow and that's a really good point And I because that's what I said to her was like that's how my wife was too I told I was like, you know, I don't see you being like that. I know I won't I said I know the type of discipline that I have applied myself to get on a stupid stage in a in a bathing suit and pose for a plastic trophy If I got if my child is on the way Like I'm on like I'm like dialed more than I've ever been dialed because to me that is the That to me matters more than and it's only nine months Like if I can Discipline myself to make the best healthy choices whether it be that to be through movement or feeding or getting sunlight or whatever It is that that I can do to help us as a team like I'm on it like I'm gonna be on my game And what you eat when you're pregnant It influences the baby in the besides the obvious like how they're developing all that stuff It also influences their preferences When they're and I and this is by the way, it's not I'm not just making this up the science to support this But I see these firsthand So when I was when I was married in when my at the time when my wife was pregnant She definitely was not At the same, you know intensity when it comes to fitness now now generally healthy generally You know stayed active, but not like I was and so she would just Eat whatever But when she was pregnant with my son The things that she wanted to eat a lot of were vegetables She wanted to eat olives which was kind of strange and The funny thing is my son loves those things right my daughter now when she was pregnant with my daughter She went nuts on the bread and pasta, you know, and I would talk to her about it Whatever very difficult conversation to have with someone who is pregnant because they also don't feel good and all that stuff And so it sounds like you're being insensitive, right? But I would say like you probably shouldn't eat as much bread. It's not good for the baby. That's whatever and Oh, you calling me fat. It's very difficult to Have this conversation No, but she did she had a shit ton of bread and pasta and for sure my daughter Has this very interesting relationship with bread and pasta where she has she'll she'll she has no limit on it She'll just keep going until her stomach hurts or whatever So it's funny to see that, you know play itself out or whatever. Yeah, you know, so Yeah, I mean they just keep finding so many things that that factor into that like beginning stage process So you just I mean the more conscious you are of everything your environment your food intake your movement and all that the better Oh, yeah, I think you said it really well, just and I really I think that makes a lot of sense to me that it's It's like what how I explain people that steroids like people always feel like the steroid. I hear steroids make you an asshole You know the big pregnancy like pregnancy makes you fat like for sure like no It's it just exaggerates some of your issues or some of your stuff already So if you're already kind of an asshole then you get on steroids like you're just a more muscular asshole Yeah, exactly an exaggerated version of that and so I could see if you have a poor relationship with Food and exercise already and that's a struggle and you go into pregnancy I could see that that just exaggerates that then it makes it even more challenging Whereas if you are somebody who is extremely health conscious going into that It probably will exaggerate that too that because now you're not you're not thinking selfishly You're also thinking about the babies like so I could see one of my favorite observations too with with pregnancy And you'll you'll see this if you know you guys end up going that route is you know Women when you see women around each other and they don't know each other sometimes it's an interesting relationship Especially if your girlfriend like if you go out and Katrina's dressed very you know Provocatively and she looks good or whatever sometimes you'll see the looks of like Oh, who does she think she is or whatever you see girls do this with each other? It's it's interesting to watch when she's pregnant Every woman is her best friend. She'll get front of lines. They'll pull out chairs for her They'll buy her shit women stick together to take care of pregnant women and it's so fascinating to why I remember we go places and my wife would be pregnant and It's like women would just walk up to her and just love her and take care of her and and I was like never happens Any other time I would never see it like this is why I think that's why I thought it was fascinating What these people are doing as far as like they're they don't bring her doughnuts and cookies during the the rest of the year It's right now. It's almost like show love right and I think they don't they don't mean harm by it Like they really think they're doing a good right. It's totally misguided It's just a misconception that we have in our culture that When a woman gets pregnant that she's eating for two And so if you're one of these ladies that are friends with a pregnant woman, you're like, oh, I'm gonna bring her a Cake. Oh, yeah, I bet she'd love that like oh my god It's so funny everybody also like just comes up and randomly touches Yeah, belly touch like my wife would just like I do that people will just come up and touch her like all time She's like, hey, you know like hey, what's going on here? I helped make that. Why don't you pat him in the crush? Yeah, I was like nobody's giving me any love. Give me a little ball time Good job with those guys Hey, good game, man, you know, you're really performed. Yeah This clause brought to you by organifi For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organifi fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance the added edge Try organifi totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organifi.com That's or gani fi.com and use a coupon code mind pump for 20 off at checkout Our first question is from grace barga What are your thoughts on vasectomies? Do you personally believe they affect sex drive hormones or prostate cancer and would you ever get one? Oh, dude, I'm partial. I'll be a pregnancy. This is the I'm avoiding pregnancy I'm in the stage right dude How about the youtube that ben greenfield just did for us the the what's in my bag and he put on the the blue blockers Oh my god, you saw that birth control. Yeah, he goes out He puts them on my life. My wife loves it when I wear these. It's like birth control. He killed that video. That was awesome Yeah, I don't dude. I don't know about this, man I don't you know, it's funny because vasectomies are sold as risk-free problem-free Super simple easy ways to and yet I've heard many a story. Yeah Problems that had occurred. Yeah, come on. Here's a here's a fact Okay, here's a fact. No medical procedure is without its potential side effects and issues So that's a hundred percent and you're going in there and you are literally removing surgically preventing the the body from You know releasing sperm or having something that has been in us For the entire time of existence that you are shutting down Well, your your your body still makes sperm. It just doesn't come out right and so there's a there's a go Well, here's a few things that could happen And I don't want to scare anybody by the way If you compare vasectomy to like getting a woman a woman having her tubes tied Vasectomy much safer much less potential for side effects. Oh, yeah, if you compare it to like birth control Much less side effects much less. So of all the the strategies Besides the natural strategies where you know, you're timing her ovulation pullout method and condoms It's probably one of the better options But you know when you prevent the body from getting that that sperm out your body can actually develop an immune An autoimmune reaction and response to its own sperm So that's been shown so you can increase your your risk of autoimmune So if you're somebody who has already high risk of autoimmune issues Then your the the odds and this is speculation does not really any science to support what i'm about to say But in my opinion if you're already somebody who has a tendency towards autoimmune issues You'll probably have a higher risk of having an autoimmune reaction to a vasectomy Um, does it affect sex drive hormones and prostate cancer? You know, here's the thing Some studies show that it affects hormones. It may it may reduce testosterone I 100% believe this because even if even if it's not doing it physically I see how it could do it psychologically. Good point I mean, so even if they're even if like I think there could be some possible physical things that happen there But even if that is not true, I could see the psychological difference that it could do for a man Just knowing that just knowing that I can't reproduce anymore You cannot fucking tell me that that doesn't sit in the back of your head and that does and what I know now About my my own libido and being a grown-ass man That's not a teenage boy that wants to hump everything And now that a day at work of stress can completely affect my sex drive I most certainly think that if you take away the ability for me to reproduce and I know that in the back of my head I don't know that that would be the same I had not the same but a similar type of stress that I know my body would feel If I knew that my bank account was empty and I had a mortgage coming up at the end of the month Like that doesn't that's not physically gonna keep me from having a kid But you better believe that it will psychologically because I know how my body operates and I respond. Well testosterone For sure is affected by state of mind for sure you could literally Think something and we can immediately see changes in your testosterone levels like like most hormones They're gonna get affected through you know through thoughts, but the science for the worst there were some studies that showed a a Correlation between vasectomies and prostate cancer And then other studies came out and said okay, there is no correlation So that one is interesting Hormones there's some science to show that it may increase dht Which is a form of testosterone that attaches to Where your your prostate has an affinity for prostate in your scalp And lowers testosterone. That's again, that's also up in the air You know, I don't know what I you know, would I ever get one? You both have talked about it so I actually scheduled one and was like Completely going through the entire process where like they make sure like do you really want to do this and like you have to um, you know go through all the literature and watch the videos and All this kind of stuff and like, you know And so I went through all that and then was was trying to schedule a date to then Meet with a physician met with a physician and then we had like a scheduled date for the actual surgery And so you get like a time of like, I don't know if it's like three months or something like that Where you have to go and then after that it's like, okay, now you gotta repeat the whole process So they make you do a whole rigmarole before you yeah, yeah Because probably to make sure people are certain Yeah, and I think they're just it's it's a legal thing right too on top of that like so Like we we did all the due diligence like so why did you back out? What happened? I mean, what was it? I just I kept thinking about it and um, I I was gonna do it But the just the timing of it with our schedule and everything else and so I kind of just sloughed it off and then forgot about it And uh, it was like I I need to do more research on this to see like Counterpoints because I've heard even some of my friends that um have have had the procedure Um, you know one one guy it actually didn't even work So like he actually got his wife pregnant anyways boy. I'd be fucking mad I was like that's it. So he's he just said that right and that planted a seed in my head like I'm gonna go through this and it still might like get my wife pregnant. I was like Fuck Like that would be the ultimate right when you guys were trying for your boys Was it did you guys get pregnant right away? Or was it a process? Well, so that's the thing that and this is very so you're really good at this private information But yeah, she was on birth control and it's still boom. Fuck. Yeah, so you guys are a hyper Yes, bro. I like it your DNA is supposed to mix. Yeah So I was just like we were both floored by that because it was only a year into our marriage And it was like I wasn't like like we were playing on a couple years in but We just were like, oh, okay. So that's that's that, you know Um, but yeah, it was like so it's it's one of those things I do worry about You know for me right after my divorce. Yeah, you talked about this also. Yeah, right after my divorce So it was like done. I'm gonna go get a vasectomy And that's it and then I started dating Jessica and obviously fell in love and still didn't still was like I'm not having any kids at all But you know, it's interesting The kind of relationship that we have She allows me Or encourages, you know self-awareness and or allows me to to express myself and I don't feel judged or whatever And she's young, you know, she's young and I'm sure she she doesn't have any kids But really what I was doing is I was thinking to myself, you know I have so much fear post-divorce Of ever being in a situation like that again like Is my decision to never want to have kids again Based on the fact that I really don't want to have kids ever again Or is it based on my fear of the fact that I got divorced after 15 years and You know and that whole process like it's almost like when you're with someone and then you have a terrible breakup Like you never want to date again or whatever like your fear of commitment Now that was a real question for me. Like is is this really is it really because I'm scared because here's the thing if you go back you know 20 years and you asked me actually you go back my entire life up until When my up until maybe maybe six or seven years into my marriage If you had asked me at any point how many kids I'd wanted I would have always said a lot I want big family and the truth is I love big families now. This isn't saying I'm gonna have another kid what it what it's saying is You know, I had to examine that and have a second me so permanent, you know And the other side of it is I I've always used the pull-out method I've never even while I was married or whatever. I've never used Any birth control Aside from the good old-fashioned, you know pull-out method and when I was married My wife wasn't on birth control. So it wasn't like well, did you guys want? I mean because there's what they say There's only like really three days of the month that she's supposed to even be able to have a have a kid Like were you at least tracking her? Never. It was always pull-out method. I'm really good. I'm really good at it so I'm never fuck up ever Spiderman only twice. Yeah. No never fuck up I know I'm really fertile because when we tried for my kids. It was fast. It was easy um, but Yeah, that's I mean, that's my personal opinion. But you know, if you're in a situation where pregnancy would be devastating um Then it's probably a good. It's probably a good option. I think it's probably a better option than birth control I mean actually for my opinion. I think it's very much. Well, I think we're where it gets The question is for especially for guys like us that are now Moving into our 40s and then mid 40s to 50s and then wives and girls are not going to They're not going to want to get pregnant at that age anymore And so it's more about that like right now. It's I think it's pretty easy for us to kind of go I'm not sure back and forth And that's because if if it were something to happen, right? If if Jessica somehow got pregnant or Courtney somehow got pregnant like it would not be the end of the world like it would be Well, we had an experience like that not the long ago where she She was late her period for I think it was a week or something like that. I think I told you guys And when she told me of course first I was like, are you guys fucking terrified? I was like, you're kidding me I just got you know a year and a half ago or whatever to her. I got divorced You know, yes, I'm in love and a lot of stuff, but I'm still very scared and holy shit What if she's pregnant and then I thought about it and I you know and Personally for me there are if she was pregnant. There is no I'm not I would never do I would never want to do like an abortion or anything like that. That's my own personal view I think everybody has their own views, right? So I thought about that. I'm like, okay If she is you know, and this is just how I I tend to tackle situations That are scary is I imagine that that's that's that's the deal like, okay. Let's say she is pregnant Uh, well, this is what we'll do. We'll do this. Well that I do love her I do want to be with her. I think she would be an excellent mom So I told her I said I came home that day and I said look Let's like this is that's what happened. This is cool. We're gonna do this with that And then she told me sick. Oh, I got my period actually. So it was like it was almost like I said Just kidding. Yeah, it was almost like the perfect thing, but you know For again for me, who knows? I don't know. I mean, it's almost like you think to yourself like, well Are you a kind of person that says it's are you the kind of person that thinks uh Like if it's meant to be kind of person or are you the kind of person that thinks that mistakes happen And so I've been on either side of that, you know, I mean and I kind of waver between the two But yeah, I mean if you show if you have to look at all the birth control methods that are not That don't include the natural methods or the con you know condoms or barrier methods or whatever and you were weighing them out I think it's pretty clear the vasectomy is probably the safest and least likely to produce Yeah negative side effects. I think that's what we came to conclude And that's why I'm still debating on it because it's like I'd she's been on birth control for a long time now So it's like I want to get her off the birth control. So and uh, but anyway, we'll see stay tuned Our next question is from fair two five one three Why do you believe so many poor thought or behavior patterns in adulthood are rooted in childhood because they are Why the sky blue because it is because it is because that's exactly what happens I mean, you can't help it. People don't realize that you know, 98 percent of What you what you see and hear throughout your day every single day Your brain is downloading it is downloading and it's storing and it's saving it in there And when you see and you're not even aware of it, you're not aware it 98 percent of it is subconscious You know, we're only conscious of 2 of the information that we're we're downloading and processing throughout your day So yeah, you better believe that if you if you grew up in a home Where you saw things that habitually all the time over and over that was you're you're downloading that information all the time all the time all the time all the time all the time and so More than likely you're going to have tons of pathways That they lead to this potentially bad behavior That is your default that when you get angry or sad or feared or things that Will trigger those moments of what you probably felt when you were seven eight nine years old and don't even remember anymore That naturally you kick over to that that pathway And it's very very hard for people to break that and the first fucking step is recognizing you got that You know say is admitting that you got that I do have these patterns that are that are and it doesn't mean necessarily so I'll give you an example of like it doesn't necessarily mean Because I grew up in a around an abusive home. It doesn't mean I'm going to go turn around and abuse somebody It doesn't mean that like that's not what what I mean At least when I talk about these behaviors or patterns that you get from childhood But I most certainly am influenced by them now. Luckily for me I've made I've made the conscious decision to make an effort to go the other direction But part of what makes me so extreme the other direction is because again of those pathways that have been Been formed and shaped in my brain from my childhood So absolutely it's there and I still have to work on The the opposite right because I'm so extreme the other way like I was the type of guy where Literally if a girl raised her voice to me or even like slightly got into an argue with me I was deuces. Yeah, you're out. Yeah. Why I would be she could be living with me too You could be living with me. We've been together for over a year Like I'm packing the bags that night like I was so I'm so afraid of You know controversy and argument and fights and stuff like that and some might even argue There's some healthiness to that like and I'm so no there's nothing healthy about it because I've had these these patterns that are formed in my brain from what I've seen so It doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to be a bad person or because of your These bad behaviors you have that it's all from childhood. It's not necessarily. It's not all or nothing It's not guaranteed. You're going to be a certain way But absolutely it's downloaded. Well, the brain is the brain is very plastic It's it's plasticity meaning that the brain molds and shapes itself based on its You know input based on input based on you know, what's around you the thoughts you have the experiences you have and all that stuff But it's extremely plastic or at least the plasticity in a child's brain Is far higher than it is in an adult brain So here's a simple example if you learn four languages From birth up until you know adulthood You'll speak all four languages without an accent fluently and perfectly Now and as an adult you can also learn four languages But the the primary language that you understand the one that you learned as a child will be the one without an accent All the other ones you'll always have an accent. So that's just an example of it. So The child a child's brain is literally like a sponge because what it's doing is it's it's pruning Uh connections that it thinks it doesn't need and it's solidifying Connections that it thinks it definitely needs meaning if it's something that it keeps seeing repeatedly over solidified It solidifies it and to break into break that connection is very very very difficult As you become an adult and may in fact be impossible In some in some cases, but definitely very very difficult So your brain is molded and shaped During its most plastic period as a child based on your experiences and then when you become an adult Although you don't lose total plasticity You lose a huge deal of it. So it's it's it's no different look. It's like this It's crazy to me that when we only we only give credit to this or we only talk about it when it's like an extreme version of it Like no one no one questions why a child who was molested their whole entire childhood Why they're so fucked up sexually all their entire adulthood right no one questions that because we we oh everyone sees that goes Oh my god, I can't no wonder but that's just an extreme example of exactly that Yeah, it's there's there's much lesser cases that nobody talks about that Yeah, like the relationship with food your relationship If your parents constantly told you that you you know, you weren't going to be good at something or your or your whatever Like and you were told that forever Like and you don't think that that is affecting you as a 25 or 30 or 40 year old grow man or woman Like you're fucking trippin. Oh you identify with you know, your your peers that that say things about you or your body You know growing up it makes like a huge impression on you know, your your Psychological health going forward like what you're gonna, you know fixate on and and you know, like there's things that come up to that Are are really subtle that It's interesting because like people around you will notice like if they know your childhood They know your parents they know and then they'll start to see these sort of patterns come out like you know, if I start to talk in a certain way or like It's funny because Courtney kind of checks me and sees things that like my parents do that like I'll start to like Recite or repeat and I'm like, ah, no, you know, like the whole you're turning into your parents kind of a thing Right. Um, and and then you you know immediately that that sends like shock waves down, you know, I'm like, oh my god No, or or it's the good things too. So Um, it's just recognizing that now as an adult that those impressions. They really stayed with you. It's rooted Here's a good analogy. If you have a 23 year old Who starts working out Their body will adapt and respond to the workout and they'll build muscle and burn body fat If you have a 70 year old that starts working out They too their body will also adapt and react and respond to build muscle and burn body fat The difference between the two is the potential the capacity the 23 year old has a much larger capacity For those changes and the seven year old doesn't and this is what I mean by the plasticity of the brain In a child versus in an adult and it also to add another layer to that Those changes When they're made during those formative years it becomes very hard to change Them back or or reverse them when you're an adult because you lose a lot of that plasticity So you just right you must have that most of the most of the foundation is set in five to seven years old A lot of it is yeah a lot of it is that if you're talking about if your brain is like building a home Like the foundation is five to seven dude They'll do these they have people will adopt children from Like you know Eastern european nations or whatever right i'll give just an example and they'll have a child who's two years old Or one year old or even maybe younger than one and they'll adopt this baby But the but the child or the baby has a history of Terrible abuse as an infant they will still have developmental issues and stuff later on it is like Especially in the early early early years That brain is changing and molding at such a fucking rapid rate That uh, I mean it makes a huge impact. So the things you grow up with they kind of stay with you I think the root the key I should say is to Know that Be aware of it so that it doesn't rule you or run your life or so you don't have these irrational fears Or irrational behaviors or bad relationships with people based on Experiences in the past that have nothing to do with the experiences In the present. I mean I love that you picked this question because so much of this is I think is Matter so much for somebody who's trying to Change their physique right whether it be lose 30 pounds or build muscle or like much of the the drive Towards all of that that goal is rooted in in something much deeper than you realize And when you get to the bottom of that and that's not that's not demonizing wanting to get in shape at all It's fucking that's a great thing to be want to be healthy and in shape But just really understanding where your motives come from and and I think Being able to unpack that is is so important dude. I was so I mean Like if you call me skinny, you know when I was a kid It's like the worst fucking thing you can say to me. Yeah, and it's all because I had developed this Self-conscious, you know This this this bad association with the word because I was called skinny all the time And I felt inadequate and then I've got this You know super fit athletic dad that I wanted to be like and I was nothing like in that in that particular regard And so that drove me for so long It's still in me. I'm just aware of it. So it doesn't rule me anymore, but it's still there I know it's still there. I can feel it. I can see it when You know, but am I but does it does it run me and rule me like it used to not even close It it it drove me So much in the past and I was so unaware of how it drove me that if you brought it up to me I would have consciously denied it like what are you talking about? That's not why that's not why I do this That's not why I force feed myself. You know, I'm eating healthy I'm an I'm into fitness when looking back. I could clearly see dysfunction You know the entire time my relationship with food with my kids Boy, that's a tough one man. I was raised where You know, you show a kid love by feeding the hell out of them and if the kid leaves the house without eating That's you're a terrible parent And that was so ingrained in me I mean, you know parents following their kids around with food My grandma would follow us around and she would pride herself and being able to feed her grandkids more Than everybody else and people loved it. Oh have no enough feed the kids She'll get them to eat everything and everybody like oh my god. She's the greatest like what I just did this the other day We were at uh, uh, my daughter's communion and you know, uh, we were all eating or whatever and my cousin's daughter finished her whole plate and so And and this nobody's bad here. This is not a bad thing because you're doing it You're not you're doing this with good intentions. She finishes her plate. So mom makes a big deal about it Hey, everybody look she ate everything everybody say yay the whole table's like yay you ate all your food and I'm like why Why are we doing that? Like why are we all clapping that they ate everything like if they want to eat they do and if they don't they don't and You're making it seem like you're good if you eat everything and if you don't You're bad and I was raising that environment in the old mindset the scarcity, you know back in the day was like everything So crazy. I think learn how to make peace with it and use it to your benefit I mean, I think that's what an example for you would be talking about like the workout thing I can totally relate to that now the strength of that That's why a guy like me can compete at the professional level because I have this switch But I also have the control to get myself out of it You know I'm saying to know that like I don't identify with that guy But what's dope is I know that I have I've got this power that I've been given because of the shit that I've been through That has now made me into this machine where I can turn it on where I go, okay Everything else tunnel vision. Boom. I could hit achieve this goal, right? But the you know 19 year old version of me We would have got which is so good that I didn't find even competing in bodybuilding until Now because I could have easily been sucked into that spiraled Yeah It would have easily spiraled me and I would I could have easily caught up and got caught up in that and identified with that But I I went into it already not identifying with that my body and my in the guy the skinny You've already done a lot of work. Yeah, I've already did that work It was good for me to experience it like at 30 30 years old Same you know same here. I wouldn't be able to say what I say or communicate the way I communicate had I not experienced that Like when I would get clients with eating issues and body image issues Man, I was really good with them But it was because I know exactly what's happening what's coming where they're coming from I had that experience And so I don't regret it at all. I think it was a it's a blessing I think all of these things can be blessings But for sure we're somewhat a product of how we grew up and our experiences as children Next up is jupini Hey Hey What is the difference between a good morning and a deadlift jupini jupini kind of a weenie. That's probably why you Put your racist This actually a cool question because I think it's a good question I think that they uh, they could look very similar to people. We're we're working to post here chain But uh, I would use them Totally different. Oh, so different. Yeah, the feel is so different. I mean a good morning is all Yeah, it's your knees. Yeah, your knees your knees are supposed to be you know in a In a bent but fixed position. So you're not getting any knee flexion or extension It's all on the hips The weight is on your back and the reason why I like a good morning The the reason why I do good mornings all on top of stiff legged deadlifts Which I'm assuming they're talking about right a stiff legged deadlift. Oh, I see yeah because that would be the most like similar similar Yeah, it's the it's the posture top because when you have the bar on your back with a good morning You have to squeeze the shoulder down and back stick the chest out like you're squatting And then bend forward versus a do you know what I really like about a good morning in comparison to the deadlift It's a it's a great way to teach the hip hinging because you have because like you're saying how you have to Keep the bar balanced on your back like that. You just you can't fold Right, but if you did a deadlift you could round your back you can fall you can do you can track the shoulders Yeah, so it's a little bit when I'm and and the cue to hinge at the hips versus bending over Is one of the hardest things as a trainer to teach a client to do We lose we lose this ability To hinge slide the hips back and forward and control it through the glutes instead of bending at the knee and using the quads To go up and down and that's that's a good point. I mean I always like I mean trying to reiterate that as they're going to pick it up because your body just like innately wants to kind of help It wants to bend and wants to bring those shoulders down and forward and then rip off of off the ground And you have to fight all these natural tendencies And so to be able to have the bar placed And put your body in a position where it puts you in that optimal posture. That's a great teaching I think I think of like a good morning is like teaching a Like let's say we're trying to teach someone a golf swing. I'm using like the A good morning is like the half the swing like just the the breaking of the wrist and just kind of learning how to do that And I'm I'm talking about golf and I don't know what the fuck. I'm talking about my point Right, I'm in yeah, just keep going. You're getting ready to ride a golf thing. Yeah. Yeah, we're getting ready over here quizzing me like That's actually not at all But you know that if you're if I'm breaking that all I'm doing is I'm working on one part Of an important part of this compound movement that I eventually want to get to which is the deadlift the deadlift is the full swing And I think that I like using a good morning And they both are can be practiced separately. So I think there's a lot of benefit to practicing them separately I think there's a lot more benefit to teaching somebody a good morning first Before a deadlift a deadlift it has More moving parts and it's more challenging to not allow your body to cheat or to go to default bad patterns Yeah, boy has times changed You know, wasn't that long ago that if somebody in a gym was doing a good morning They would have been stopped by every trainer in there And every everybody that was working out and say stop don't do that You're gonna hurt yourself because it looked it looked bad back then you got to wait on your back And you're bending over which i'm not not not joking 15 20 years ago Like everybody would say don't do that. That's terrible for it before that 40 50 years before that a good morning was a strength exercise It was one of the top this it was like it was a staple In uh strength athletes routines. In fact, they would compete, you know like today if you say how much can you bench That's a very common thing to hear back then like how much can you do overhead press and good morning? Though and those were kind of two exercises, you know bent press and other kind of stuff But that was an exercise that people would test themselves You can get tremendously strong doing good mornings If you practice them right and you train them properly at one point. I think I got myself up to almost four plates Um on a good morning. It's a very strong hip hinging movement It forces you to focus on retracting your shoulder blades Holding good posture while you bend forward bracing your core I noticed a lot of carryover from good mornings to Deadlifts and good mornings to squats. I remember when I started doing good. Good mornings. I would I was able to squat No, it's an excellent way to teach the hip hinge And I think that's a hard thing for people to understand even like when someone goes to squat Like most people are like just bending at the knee. They let their shoulders roll forward Good morning is excellent for for getting you good at those things Did anybody good do good mornings back when you got I don't remember anybody No, you're right when you would see it you would think somebody's freak out. Yeah, you would freak out like someone's doing I did it. I remember going into a gym and I was doing good mornings And like I would have people actually stop and like random old guys that come over and be like you're gonna hurt yourself Like like it's like really concerned, you know with the movement because they just haven't seen people do I'm like, no, this is an exercise. I got this grandpa. Yeah Step aside go over the good girl bad girl machines What about what did it take it so what about the jefferson curl that would that would have been one that would get kicked you out Oh, yeah, actually somebody brought that up recently We are we we ought to do a youtube video dug on on a jefferson curl That's been on our list for a long time and people will freak out Oh, they will get all kinds of hate on youtube because we're taught A while we've been taught now that you're not supposed to ever Round your back with weight on it now for a lot of exercises. That's true But does that mean you shouldn't strengthen your spine's ability to flex and extend? Of course not it's a movement Here's a here's something that's important that you need to understand is If you can if if your body can move a particular way with good stability good balance good strength Then that's okay Then that's an option Then that's an option And if it can't then you should be one of the goals is try and get your body strong to move in all these Different ranges of motion all over and the spine although we do want it to be stable with heavy exercises like You know squats and deadlifts the spine is very mobile. It's lots of joints There's more joints in the spine than there is You know in terms of you know like you have one joint in your knee or whatever a few moving parts Right your knee cap and your and your knee and your shoulders got your shoulder blade and a lot of stuff Your spine is a bunch of joints I was amazed going through FRC just to see how people could connect to the spine You know and like how they can articulate each individual You know vertebrae and like how they could just like go through the process of like With the central nervous system like oh, you know now like this part of my back is is activated And you'd actually visibly see that as their their backward raise or lower and It's just like the human body is It's so much more sophisticated than you know, a lot of the we just put red tape all over the place Just to make sure people don't fuck themselves up and yet, you know, everybody's okay with crossfit So that's all I have to say Yeah, exactly one of the best butt building exercises that you can do that nobody ever does Is a good morning with a band Attached around your waist going behind you So what happens up happening is you you lean forward you have the resistance of the weight when you come up Which a regular good morning hits your glutes anyway and hamstrings hamstrings, especially But with the band around your waist when you're coming up Now you have the resistance at the top of the rep where you're trying to squeeze your glutes I'll tell you what man. I've had people do that and it's like they feel their butt like they've never felt before We should do a video in fact. Yeah, there you go. There's another video. There it is Doubling up next question is from very cool Alan What if I like working Alan? Yeah, let's be honest. Yeah, you got to say it. What if I like working a normal job? Does that mean I'm lame? Well, you're obviously You answer your own question Sounds pretty Ned Flanders to me. Very cool, Alan Why don't we use the word lame more often? No, I love lame. I always use lame I love lame too. No, I don't think you're lame and I think there's nothing wrong with that I think there's some people that I think that we're born to serve that we're okay with with that and I think there's nothing wrong with it Good book fred factor I used to have all my like front desk and sales guys all all do this and I think that it's a it's a good little read that You can find fulfillment happiness and success Working in a position where you work for a company or others or serve other people like there's There's a lot of ways that you can be fulfilled that way that doesn't necessarily meaning you've got to own or run your own No, I think a lot of people I think there's more people that think there you go Doug. Thank you Mark Sanborn, uh, you know, I think there's a lot of people that think entrepreneurship is cool. It's fucking wrong Yeah, yeah, it's like it's not as cool as you think it is. That's annoying right. Yeah Yeah, they're just like like breeze right over like all the difficulties and the challenge and then just glorify You know, like it's this like awesome It's not even cool everybody. It's not even cool to say entrepreneur anymore I hate when I catch myself saying it still like oh, I'm a serial entrepreneur It's like, you know, I just that lumps me in with a bunch of fucking lazy ass people, dude. Yeah Yeah, exactly They're too lazy to get a fucking job and work for somebody so they want to say they do their own thing Which is really nothing somebody with a social media page We gotta change this dude I don't want to call us entrepreneurs anymore because it getting lumped in No, I think this is it's a good question because it kind of highlights a problem sometimes that kids run into where They're sold so heavy on what you're what you need to do that makes you happy And if you're not if you're happy doing something else Something's wrong with you. Yeah, like what if you know, and here's a great example. Wow. He's a fantastic example And we've done this Terrible to service to the trade arts in this country terrible to service For a while there it was popularized through the media and tv and movies and whatever That working with your hands and having being in a trade like a plumber construction worker Mechanic electrician was somehow You know not good and it was better to work in an office get a degree And do those kinds of things and as a result all these kids Went to college to get Many of them worthless degrees arts degrees because that you know, that's what they're supposed to do And this is the way to guarantee whatever and the these other Trades lost a lot of people when they're good paying jobs You can make a shit ton of money as a plumber and electrician and if you like doing that Well, then fuck that's great. That's a great job. That's something. It's a great career And there's a lot of ways you could take that career You could work for someone else or you could start I have a cousin who's a plumber He's got 15 employees working under him dude makes a shit ton of money And that's what he wants to do and I think this kind of highlights that it's like, you know And here's the thing with entrepreneurship Here's why it's cool because all the stories that you know about entrepreneurs are all the extreme successes That's why when I say hey, tell me a story about an entrepreneur that you've heard Oh elon musk. He's a fucking you know bill gates and steve joff. Well. Yeah, those are the successes You don't know about the other you know Million people that tried it and failed miserably lost their their money and in time or whatever and it's It's a very difficult very very difficult path Just like a lot of paths are and some people are wise enough to realize they're not cut out for that path And they don't want that stress in their life They'd rather spend that time instead of spinning their wills trying to become something that they're not Doing the I mean the tagline for this book, right? Did Doug just pause it out there how how with the fred factor how passion in your work and life can turn The ordinary into extraordinary Dude perceptions everything that's it man. If you enjoy your job like why should you feel like insecure about that? Like it's like enjoy that. You know, you found a job that that drives you I think that people just like who cares about the social stigmas are like, you know Like like you mentioned with trade schools and like I I was honestly like Thinking and debating that and that was one thing my main motivation to go to college was just because to prove a point Like thinking back like how stupid right like I could have easily just done like something that I was good at and I was definitely good at working with my hands and like that was a passion of mine at the time You know, but I mean I wouldn't trade anything for the world for how everything ended up But at the same time like that's totally like a valuable Skill that you know, I was taught and and would have loved to develop it further And I think that um, you know people like I think that the that Type of a thing with having a skill again is going to be so valuable in the future It's not what you work. It's how you work. Yeah, you know how you how you what you do is not that big of a deal It's how you do it. I think that's what's important So and in happiness and success You know who defines that by the way in real life, you know define success you do Yeah, you define your success. You may find your success living in a motor home that and having odd jobs and having very very little material, you know Possessions or things that tie you down or things that tie you down and in you know And you travel around and you learn things and you meditate all day or whatever And that's your vision of success. You may also be a a business tycoon Who's making hundreds of millions and dollars and you're fulfilled and you enjoy what you do And that's your vision of success. You may want to be a stay-at-home parent And you're you find pleasure and fulfillment in raising your kids or running the house or whatever That's your version of success. That's pretty much the bottom fucking line. It really doesn't matter Any other way now the problem that I have with people is when people are miserable Decide that they don't want to do anything about it and would rather just sit there and complain and Be jealous of other people. That's when I have a problem those the ones I don't like those the ones that I are getting lumped into our category Until like like you said because you everyone who was an instagram handle now is considered an entrepreneur That's that's my problem. That's when I have an issue is when somebody's doing something and You know, it's obviously their choice to do it But they Decided that they don't they're gonna fucking complain about it. They're gonna hate about and not only that but they're gonna hate other people Or I should have got that job. Yeah Yeah, I had this experience and perception is everything I'll tell you what I have I've had several of these experiences where I was in a situation where I was miserable And then I kind of reevaluated like here's a good example. I was driving somewhere with uh, my kids And Jessica we were going somewhere and we were stuck in the worst traffic I'd ever been stuck in my life We were supposed to be somewhere that took supposed to be take two hours took us six hours to get there And we were stuck in traffic and of course you're with kids and blah blah blah, you know, whatever And I was just angry. I was just pissed off The the the whole time and you know, Jessica looks at me and she's like she goes look she goes We're we're driving to be somewhere so that we could be together as a family We're right now together as a family. We're just in a car right and it was like a light bulb went off I was like, why am I? Why am I angry like why am I why am I choosing to perceive this right as such a negative thing? And it totally changed same thing is true for you know, uh Doing things around the house. I never did anything around the house And when I finally made the realization that wait a minute I live here too What's the big deal? And then I started doing and I started finding pleasure in doing them and finding that I could meditate Why I did them or listen to music while I did them or whatever it no longer became an issue And so I think there's a lot of that stigma of like, oh, I'm supposed to be Making this much money. I'm supposed to be an entrepreneur. I'm supposed to be doing these other things and yeah, you're listening to other people too much I mean, I had the same sort of experience as far as like I understanding that Um, the mundane things like why am I why as I'm doing it? Why am I dreading this? Obviously, I I'm doing this right now Like why do I have to put all that extra shit on top of it? Why not just be like cool with it? Like I have to do it anyways or get the fuck out. Yeah You want to be a part of it? No and like draw a line or just stop bitching about it That's it. What is it? It's never it's usually the thing is never as bad as the thing thinking about the thing or the thoughts about that thing That's usually not always of course just terrible shit that happens But many times, you know, that's that's the case. So No, you're not laying man. You like working a normal job. Whatever the hell that means. I don't know I know what it is. That's that's pretty vague Yeah, what is a normal job? Let's look at this page. Yeah, but it's very cool. Alan. I'm an accountant I'm gonna look you up very cool. Alan and see how cool. Let's see before we sign off here Let me let me see if I could co-sign for how I love very Alan's wearing very That'll tell everything cool. Oh, there he is. He just pulled him up. Oh, you pulled him up He's uh, it doesn't say anything. He's an android. He likes calisthenics He's uh, want to be gymnast. Okay. Okay doesn't show He doesn't show make it happen. Alan. He's a young kid. Yeah the next american ninja. Oh, yeah, he's for you He's super young. No, you're not cool yet, bro. You can't be You will be cool takes a cool takes a lot of time takes a lot of practice Especially if you're a man Yeah, you're pretty much a dork until you're like 30 or something But if you own that you're a dork that makes you or if you're a sal you're still a dork This is like a sal secret weapon. Well, that's why I'm cool. Yeah, so that's why I'm cool now because exactly I embrace it Yeah, the sooner you embrace it. Okay, so alan you could be sal cool right now But I think you got a lot. I think you got plenty of time ahead of you He's not because his name would be very dorky alan And he says he's cool. So he's not I don't see his job though. I tried to see what he did for Larry Sorry, anyway, you might get a lot of followers now. Yeah, there you go. Very cool on so check this out A lot of people don't know that we're on instagram. 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