 I my first initial feeling is we're back in 2010 except this time they've got two maxes which they weren't able to do back in 2010 But this is essentially what this is this feels like, you know, they try to rebuild and it's just it's not going to happen So swing for the fences and go get KD and Kyrie, you know, and they weren't going to get one by themselves Both those guys made it clear they weren't coming here alone And it's been a rumor for a long time Now the other rumor that has finally come to fruition, which we've all been worried about And it's something that you know to me is is really upsetting is the fact that this guy you bled for 17 win season and Drafted Chris House Porzingis and this guy Essentially just started putting out those that that sense that he didn't want to be here that he didn't either trust the franchise What he went through with Phil Jackson what he saw what happened with Carmelo Anthony and he had enough people in his ear Which includes his brother Who means well, but I never really every time I tried to talk to the guy and I tried to You know even just sometimes you just try to help people out like it let him get a lay of the land He always seemed like he was smarter than you or acted like he was smarter than you Well, we'll see how smart he is I mean it's a good move for him because they look at Don sich and KP are very good friends very close And if you're Mark Cuban who was by the way in New York last night He was at the garden last night Mark Cuban This is brilliant for him because it definitely resets their franchise. It gives him two European stars. They do very well They're obviously Vicki's been there for 20 years So this is great for them and it's a place where you expect for Zingus We'll sign an extension and stay there and that's the limited market the Knicks were working with here So I know I'm all over the place, but I'll begin with the fact that this didn't just happen today All right, it leaked today, but this wasn't something that just suddenly was KP walked in the office I don't like the direction. They said fine. We'll trade you. Oh and hope Dallas just happened to be here last night Let's send you to them. This has been this has been in the works for months, right? And in fact maybe even the last couple of days when something was able to come up on on this and Turn it into a deal that the Knicks looked at and said we get a young point guard that they They know they should have taken in the draft that year and they didn't they get the caps I mean moving Tim Hardaway, Jr.'s contract that almost seemed impossible to do without giving up a first-round pick Now I don't know what the picks are involved, but I do believe the Knicks are getting picks in this deal And yet moving these contracts and now they have two maxes and now they can look at Durant and Kyrie Who do want to play together and say you guys want to come to New York? You both are basketball guys You both love this city and love the history of basketball come save the franchise be the guys that we make statues for in the next five years That's essentially what's happening here, and yet they still have a young core of players Which again 2010 was different 2010 was scorched earth Only one only one max and LeBron was the guy LeBron or bust Then they had no young players. They really didn't have anything else going on except for a coach with a system in LeBron This time around they're a little bit smarter. They've got young players They got a lottery pick that still could be Zion Williamson And now they have two maxes to go after two of the biggest names in the game So we'll see if this time it works now I used the analogy earlier because the fans some of them are up in arms about the deal because they're just gonna go Under the assumption they're not gonna be able to get the free agents because they never get the free agents But you sometimes you got to ask the girl out at the bar even though you think she's gonna say no you still have to Be in the game You got to be in the game and those who say well, it's no use you're never gonna get the guy Let's look back at the reasons why they never got the guy because no guy was coming here by himself No one ever mellow came because Amari was already here Amari came because they gave him a ton of money and there was no other options for him at that time Like this was his best option, but when you're talking about like top ten top five players, they're not coming here by themselves It's too hard to do alone. It's the heaviest jersey in the NBA. You put it on. It's way weighs you down So if you can't do this alone, everybody knows that they saw what mellow went through and So that's why the Knicks had to say if we're gonna get one We got to get to there's only one way to do it and you had a guy who clearly guys Did not want to be here and I can't understand for life me why and he's a pain I don't understand and he's a pain in the a also Let me ask you Alan Han our Knicks expert the Nick guy. How would you grade this trade for the Knicks? That's a dog. God. I hate I just hate it because they traded him. I really do I hate it because they traded him. So you liked him. You thought he was gonna be great I want well, I wanted him to be great. You know what I mean? It's homegrown This is a guy. You just I wanted him to be great because of the year you go in me 60 loss season you drop in the draft and yet you get the second best player in that draft class That's that's pretty damn good. All right But some fortune there but but knowing they didn't knowing he didn't want to be here Mm-hmm, and he'll say it all along that he did he just wasn't sure of the direction Oh, it's all a bunch of BS. He didn't want to be right He didn't want to deal with this. He didn't like criticism. So knowing that knowing that he didn't want to be here So let go of the emotion attached to it. How would you grade it? Is this something you could be excited about if you're a Knicks fan? Ask me in July. Yeah, that's it. See that I'm sorry I'm sorry, but that's scary in July. You can't do this now because you don't it's air right traded for air essentially So this could end up being Zion of course it's right and Irving or Nate silver tweeted out watch It's gonna be Goran drodges and Chris. I'll shut up I mean it could end up all that stuff is garbage, but it could end up being nothing No, it ends up being you have cap space and you trade cap space then then you trade for Damian Lillard You do whatever you can this is not gonna be where they just throw money at bad players It's not gonna have like the Nate silver stuff is garbage get that out of my face I'm not listening to that right now This is simply about cap space and then what you do with it going for it's air right now Here's what shocks me though Alan because this guy was thought of so highly that he was gonna be the next big thing in The NBA you essentially Turned him into a salary cap mule the only way that you could get salary cap space was to include poor zingas Yeah, I mean what else were you gonna do? What were you gonna do well because because where's he gonna go because he's he signed an extension if you make a deal with Memphis Is he signing a session with the pellet kids? But he's a restricted free agent. He's not going anywhere. What do you mean? He's not going anyway It's restricted free agent means he'll just take the Qo and play a year and then leave Okay, nobody was going to take him without the assurance of an extension. He's already told Dallas. He's signing well because it's look at That's his best friend. He's gonna love it there and Novitski's there He's gonna love it there But the bottom line is is you couldn't trade him to the pelicans for Anthony Davis cuz he was never going to say to New Orleans Oh, yeah, I'll stay here never and they so they weren't gonna like so his value is completely diminished down to a one-year guy Because if you did just force a trade to some team that he didn't want to go to he'd stay there for one final year Then walk so there's no value there So you're limited to where you could have sent him and you knew he would have stayed in Dallas That's why this didn't happen in the span of the what 26 Meeting today did they get win that No, no, this is this was come on Here's another thing I have to know because you're around the why why is he such a punk he acts like he's a star He's not a star. He's not a punk, but he acts like a punk. He blows off Phil Jackson He comes into that. I don't like the way this is going. He is bad influence. He has Doesn't have a good. It's I tried I'm telling you guys look. I don't like to reveal this stuff publicly I don't like to act like you know, I try to you know talk to people if somebody doesn't agree with me I just walk away from it. It's not a big deal two summers ago when all that was going down I kept I was trying so hard with this guy. I was trying to tell him. This is a bad look You don't do this in New York. This is not how you're gonna be received Well, you know like that you guys haven't done anything to act this way and I was just kind of pushed aside like what do you know? I'm like, what do I know? I've been here my whole life You've been here for ten minutes like listen to somebody with reason instead of following something you've watched in a movie It's essentially what's going on here. Like they just don't they don't get it the guy is in New York He could have been a huge star if he just if he just did the simple things the kid is not a bad kid That's the problem here or zingus is a good kid and he means well he wanted to be a star here I mean he was fragile. Yes, they had to get him stronger There's a lot still there that he has to do before he can reach super stardom, but there's so much potential there I just think he's had some bad influences and his trust or their lack of trust the family especially lack of trust from Phil Jackson And what happened there and what they saw with Carmelo? It soured him it soured the family and they just don't trust and they also don't like the criticism that comes with playing in New York it's the fact that when he doesn't play well, he's gonna get criticized There's gonna be tweets there's gonna be fans who say things about him for stock radio that says stuff about him He doesn't like that. So it just it's you I just knew this was coming I didn't want it to happen. I was hoping it wouldn't I was hoping when David Fisdale went last summer and Visited spent a whole week with him letting him know getting that relationship together and trying to build something forward You thought he'd have some ownership he'd care But he clearly didn't want to be part of this and he didn't want to be a leader He didn't want to be the guy that had to wear had to carry the burden of it So he's all he's now in Dallas and the Knicks now have a huge I mean they've got a huge pitch To make in July hoping and it starts really now hoping that they can pull two guys off of two teams that might be in The finals playing against each other What's the pitch what come play with Kevin Knox Well, no, no, come on Michael Come play come be a duo here in the biggest market in basketball in the biggest Help or they're gonna have to do it alone. It's heavy lifting even if it's two great players. Well, it's it's two great players Let's start with that. That's that's pretty great players Knox and then possibly with Zion and if you get Zion if you get Barrett or if you get the kid You know Moran, I mean, you don't know what you're getting in Dennis Smith's at least the talent Knox is going to be guys Listen, I know not a lot of people watch them So I get it but watch Kevin Knox on a nightly basis like I do and there's a ton of mistakes He makes defensively and he's very young and he's not in his he hasn't no man's strength yet But the fact that that kid can put up 12 15 points a night and he and he's they didn't even know what he's doing It tells you he's gonna be good and this kid Mitchell Robinson is going to be a really impactful player Once he actually understands how to play basketball. He's 20 years old and you can see just runs around out there There's no there's no real structure yet. They're just trying to get him reps and teach him stuff He's I mean talk about as green as you could possibly be that's what he is right now So there's stuff there. It's just you know, it takes it a whole offseason get together. This is not 2010 I'm gonna tell you that right now. This is not like 2010 that cupboard was bare. This is a lot different Is this a referendum though? Do you think that poor zingas didn't like the way can't can't it was treated does poor zingas not like It was laughing last night I was watching when canter came in and did the whole W. Yeah, he has to calm down. I mean, he's an emotional guy, too But um, I poor zingas was laughing. All right, so I don't think anybody was too upset about anything and I from what I understand. There's it's not like there's a real relationship there, you know, like this is this is not that All right, tell me what happened with Dennis Smith, Jr. Why why why was he away from the Mavericks? Well, are they are they getting damaged goods here? Well, he had to soar back But really his issue was the fact that they wanted him playing off the ball because Luca dominates the ball now Now remember he had a triple double last night, right? So I it's almost like did he know something but that was the next He put on a little show All right, but still what what happened with him was the fact that he got disenchanted He also has people in his ear. He has influencers as well. And by the way LeBron James is one of them that's not a secret and There were people that said, you know what you need to get out of there because it's you balls not coming your hands anymore They're complaining about the fact that he doesn't fight through screens that he doesn't do all the little things He's not a high percentage shooter, you know, he's a he's a he's an AU point guard. He needs the ball He needs to run screen-roll So what's he gonna be if they have the dream realized and it's Durant and If it's well if it's Kyrie, he's right is your training right you're trying. Yeah, exactly what you're doing Well, at least you get a look at him for the last quarter of the season Boston that he was staying with them. So that's no longer on the table He told the Boston crowd, right? I mean if you've been paying attention to some of the stories come out of Boston He keeps hinting to different things not him but people around him keep hinting to oh, you know I might want to get back with LeBron and and he still is interested There was a story out of Boston just recently that the Celtics bigger concern is not the Lakers But the Knicks because they are laying in the weeds with the potential to get more cap space And now that they've got it There's something real there. There's always been that connection he and Kevin Durant They both come to the city they come to New York in the summers. They play at rocker. They play at Dijkman They play they love playing summer ball. You saw uncle drew that whole thing was about New York City Street basketball so they both have that appreciation for it and All you can think now is that if they can make the right pitch or whatever it is, you know Just here you guys want to own the city you'll own it come together and you'll own it That's basically the pitch right now and if those two guys decide not to and they get shut out You just continue back to well cap space and use it properly and keep playing the young players I guess but this is you know, what else were you going to do for Zingas if he didn't want to be here See that's see that's the ultimate point here And I think a lot of the nitpicking about this is because of the history of the Knicks and the feeling is oh Of course, it's gonna fail. It's that that jet met syndrome. Of course the other shoe is gonna drop Of course, it's gonna fail The worst and hope for the best but but the thing is No question even said that you have a right to be skeptical because he tells you to be skeptical You have to eventually make bold moves to change it There was a time the Patriots were a joke the Saints were a joke, you know now these become me a parade is right You guys know that that that Steph Curry when he signed his extension and the team traded Monte Ellis The fans booed the owner and the GM right doing that So the idea is to make the bold move and and the negative is losing poor Zingas, but there is negatives in poor Zingas He hasn't been able to be on the court. He didn't want to be here Michael You call them all kinds of names to start the show. We call them a punk Who is this kid to be able to dictate this stuff? And then you and now you've got to dealt that away To get this label He's allowing it though, so he can't he can't come free on this In his name right but that's another argument for another day The point is that if you're like Michael for you the apprehension of this deal What you gave up if you think the guys a punk and it's a good deal what exactly did they give up? No, no, no, but I believe that there's value out there people in the NBA thinks that I mean Kevin Durant I want to call them a unicorn as I said right years ago If you said you'd get Dennis Smith jr. And salary cap relief you throw up in your mouth Well, if I do you have to understand it's salary cap relief is one thing it's two max contracts lots million That's a for the NBA for today's NBA especially when you know Kauai Leonard Kevin Durant Kyrie Irving Clay Thompson his generation K this summer Those guys are available. There's four guys right there I just named you that if you if you added two of them you suddenly become a top 14 in the east So, you know, we're not saying, you know some salary cap relief We're talking about a major amount of money at a time where there's some big names available But as I said earlier, it's air right now. Absolutely use it properly