 For those of you just joining us Patrick Beja has been watching too many cooks for the first time I'm roughly at the midway point now Are you gonna take a break something just watching it throughout the show actually, you know I have to take a break now because I want to leave this Now I think there's gonna be some sort of Wonder Woman transformation happening. Oh, you're at that part But I paused just at this point So it will change the tension that you're experiencing Somewhat to break, but it's okay. Yeah, I'm sure but I Rather stop now and have five minutes left Then keep going and have two minutes left, right? We'll revisit this at the end of the show Well just giving a little ramp up for the live stream to catch us catch the way Is that another thing that I have to find out about now? I'm sure it is, but I've forgotten Snake that's Saturday night. Yeah That sounds dirty Saturday night live was both so good and so upsetting to female tech reporters in two different parts of it This week's this week's yeah, they featured a female tech reporter from Glamour magazine who was Yeah, and I I personally think the joke is on glamour magazine for trying to have a tech reporter But but I can deeply understand if you say a work for I don't know Smarkets watch. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, it was brutal. So, yeah Unintended consequences. All right. Have a good show. Thank you. We will don't tell me what You can't tell me Too many cooks, it's gonna be in your head forever now. I'm so sorry For now Here we go Ready for some doughnuts No Oh Damn it. You got me merit The Daily Tech news show is brought to you by listeners like us go to Daily Tech news show comm slash donate to learn how No, Homer that's Donate But I'm sure Tom wouldn't mind doughnuts either This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday, December 8th, 2015. I'm Tom Eric joining me Patrick Beja from Paris, France DTS contributor and independent podcaster at frenchspin.com. How are you Patrick Bay? Well Tom I Before we just started the show. I actually started down a path that gave me an Experience, I think I might be willing to pay for to have again at some point in the future See yes, you you and Jenny mentioned The I don't even know what to call it the too many cooks video. That's all you need to say anybody who's seen it Knows exactly what you're talking about and anyone who hasn't seen it should search for and and enjoy that experience But I had to supplement midway through because we have to do the show but that experience has been kind of different and Interesting and I can't wait to have the second half of that experience after the show is done Yeah, we're gonna be talking about experience and the experience economy on today's show is an interesting article up on Fortune.com from Adam Lashinsky about that today, but first let's get to the headlines 95 max mark German says Sources with knowledge of the plans this time tell him that Apple is planning an event to announce the next Apple Watch and A four-inch iPhone that event would happen in March German's got a great track record with this sort of stuff The new watch would supposedly ship in April rumored features include front-facing FaceTime camera Wi-Fi capability to reduce dependence on an iPhone connection And Apple if you remember released the Apple Watch April 24th of this year So that would make it essentially a year later for a new announcement Yeah, I think the current watch already has Wi-Fi capability But this one would be expanded and would allow as you were saying the watch to be less reliant on the phone Yeah, I mean, it's not a big surprise. I thought maybe on the watch they would skip a year But um, yeah, I'm I'm I for one I'm not going to be buying a second Apple Watch. The first one that I'm not using is plenty. Oh You're one of them. Yeah, apparently there are there are some of those I as someone who had an Apple Watch and then decided to give it away as a prize at Nerdtecular I might buy the next one Well see maybe it will have some amazing functionality man Apple also now sells its own smart battery case that works with the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6s it can supposedly extend an iPhone 6s battery life to between 18 and 25 hours the smart battery case has a lightning port passive antennas and Shows its own iOS battery status meter on the lock screen It sells for $99 and is available today. I I don't mind the bump in the back a lot of people are calling that ugly. It's not as sleek as the Mophie I suppose but it's probably a little lighter. I at least that's what a couple people have said This is one of those examples of Apple did a thing and so that makes it news But otherwise if any third party comes out with this Everyone blinks their eyes and says oh another battery case It it's somewhat surprising that Apple did this because it sort of defaces the beautiful design of their own phone And it is not as sleek as there are other non-battery cases But I think they should have made a press conference for this and and you know showcase the incredible Amazing technology that let's go on for longer You know then you ever could have before they should have taken at least two hours out of our day to explain The amazing battery technology 25 hours talk Mozilla launched an ad blocker for iOS today called focus the app gives users control over ads analytics and tracking They're pitching it less as an ad blocker and more as a control what people know about you What kind of ads you see? Because you can whitelist stuff you can allow ads through focus uses the blacklist from the browser plug-in Disconnect dot me and we'll be able to ID new trackers and any content that follows users from site to site That's very similar to privacy badger on Chrome and Firefox the Verge notes The app only works with Safari because of the way iOS manages content blockers but it does seem if you use Safari to be a a more nuanced and Pretty pretty high featured way of controlling tracking of your behavior Yeah, as much as I'm The controversy about ads and ad blockers is not gonna die any time soon I think when you approach it with protect your privacy rather than I don't want to see annoying ads people are less People think it's less controversial. Well, and I don't actually use an ad blocker on My desktop browsers, but I use things like no script privacy badger, etc. HTTPS everywhere to to control What information is given to sites which sometimes acts like an ad blocker and to me That's the better way to approach it anyway, because I'm not about blocking ads so much as I am about blocking tracking and Controlling what information sites know about me? Makes sense While still behind Asia and Scandinavia in speeds the US is getting more gigabit internet providers Google said today it's inviting Chicago Los Angeles to explore I'm sorry Chicago and Los Angeles to explore bringing Google fiber to those cities that makes 18 cities being explored and three with actual Service AT&T announced Los Angeles and West Palm Beach, Florida are now one of 20 cities Two of 20 cities, I guess with gigabit internet AT&T announced 36 new metro areas that will get the service next Yeah, so gigabit come into more places We actually have it allegedly in neighborhoods in Los Angeles Although AT&T makes it nigh upon impossible to figure out what those neighborhoods are unless you actually live in one You just have to keep putting in zip codes If anybody can find a good coverage map for these areas, let me know that'd be awesome to find out Google's Announcement is getting more press, but it's actually just a hey We're gonna talk to the governments and they've been doing that with loads of cities for years now And they still only have three actual markets with gigabit fibers I'm not gonna get crazy excited about it yet, even though I live in one of these cities John Ellsworth three wanted us to mention the news that Facebook has removed its apps slingshot Rooms and riff from app stores Facebook told CNET that elements of the three apps have been incorporated into the Facebook apps All that work wasn't totally for nothing at least that's what they say this seems to indicate Facebook is winding down its research and development effort called Creative labs although Facebook said it will still experiment with new apps and support initiative like paper Yeah, it's it's kind of a lot of people have been saying ah, so is Facebook not Trying and failing quickly and keeping you know trying new New features and ways to develop things I it doesn't seem like that's quite the case Slingshot rooms and riff. I don't even remember what rooms was chat Right that I shot was like like a snap to those that you yeah, and you would have to respond and blah blah blah but It seems like those were kind of not slingshots, but long shots Matt and So those were kind of all over the place, but I don't think it means Facebook is completely changing their philosophy They're just you know, yeah, I think you're absolutely right. I think they're their motto of fail faster Is maybe modified to let's fail a little more slowly But I think they still want to try things I think they're like let's throw a ton of things against the wall see what sticks and now they're saying Okay, we threw a ton of things. We saw a couple of them stick a little bit moments paper So now let's backtrack and see what we've learned and I think that's responsible. That's a good fine way to approach it Twitter is experimenting with timelines that aren't chronological What a Twitter spokesperson told motherboard we're continuing to explore ways to service the best content for people only Certain users were selected and many were confused. That's not part of the quote His quote ended at the best content for people Yeah, I Get that they experiment it would be nice to let the note the people you're experimenting on know why this is happening A little pop-up bubble or something. That's all I'm talking about and maybe there wasn't they just didn't know it I didn't have this happen to me But I would hate this and if they ever did make this a feature I would want the ability to override it and reset the default to chronological It already bothers me sometimes when they do the where what you missed where they do the three posts from earlier And I don't notice and I'm like wait a minute. That's three hours old. What the hell come on for further Okay, so the what you missed or while you were away is basically three to five tweets And you can just scroll right past them. I think it provides I mean, I really understand the the quality the reason for the service that it does provide and I think it does it well Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that service that that feature should go away I'm saying I am so chronologically oriented that sometimes that feature Messes me up for a half second So I definitely don't want it to always be entirely out of chronological right and and I think there I'm with you I think not having the chronological order on on Twitter would be very very strange It's good that they're testing it You know, maybe there are a better way of handling the timeline Which is possibly getting it a little bit out of hand now that we're all following so many people but to me the while you were away feature kind of provides that You know service already shows you the stuff you might have missed if you didn't look at your timeline for a while And five is probably enough usually even the between the five. You're like, yeah, that's what I could have lived without Amazon announced its streaming partners program today, which lets prime users add streaming video channels for an extra fee So you're already paying for Amazon Prime and the shipping and all of that and now you can add showtime Stars comedy central stand-up acorn TV, which has British shows Smithsonian Earth ring TV for boxing and LO concerts plus 14 other channels Now you'll see that some of these channels are from A&E and AMC don't get too excited A&E and AMC are not actually channels that are part of this program yet Stars and showtime each will cost you nine dollars a month after a seven-day free trial other channels We'll cost you around four or five dollars a month. They also have free trials for those channels as well So first reaction is I remember that I had a dream That I would pay for one subscription that would give me all the TV shows I wanted and that dream is slowly fading away under the weight of reality that you can't just pay Ten bucks and have all the TV because it actually costs a lot more to produce than music However, this is what a la carte looks like exactly and and I think it Means it seems like it would be a little bit cheaper at least you can choose the channels You want well, I guess you don't have AMC and others But well you can choose the channels you want of the channels they offer that are available exactly Showtime and stars are the only traditional cable packages That are on here Everything else is like Comedy Central stand-up is stand-up routines from Comedy Central. It's not the actual Comedy Central So it's a little bit of a different spin on it. A lot of it has to do with movies, which kind of makes sense I think it's intriguing I'm curious what they learn and I'm curious if they can pull in other Services that have yet to launch ESPN has made noises about Offering a streaming only version of its service This seems to be a great way for ESPN to try out that game After their sling TV experience, which is kind of their first attempt at that in a way But so so first of all this this is I guess what I was getting at this It looks like cable and you know, we don't like cable But you can add and remove channels that will which you can't usually do a channel or with great It's just that if you want to have the you know 140 channels that you can get on cable You're probably going to be in the you know end up paying a lot, but usually you don't want all of those channels. So that's right Yeah, the question that becomes how does it work? Like do you have the channel playing live or can you replay stuff or how does the interface work it? Well, it looks like they have landing pages for the services with the ability to stream All of the different shows and movies that are available from those services with showtime you can get a live feed In the showtime app, I don't know if amazon is making that available as part of this But I would assume they are because I think hulu does Yeah, well more questions bring more questions Mr. Anthropology noted that mozilla You you were saying something I was about to ask another question just to be Well for the benefit of the audio listeners, we stopped and Okay Mr. Anthropology noted that mozilla announced at a developer event in Orlando that it will stop developing and selling firefox os smartphones Mozilla's svp of connected devices wrote that to tech crunch that that company wasn't able to offer The best user experience possible. Yeah, so they said if we can't give you the best user experience We're not going to do it. It seems like mozilla is trying to focus the name of their new ad blocking Extension They're they're offerings So they've been talking about spinning out thunderbird. Now they're they're winding down firefox os for for smartphones I'm sad to see this go. I liked the idea of the firefox os as another Competitor out there and usually with open source. You can give it a little more time. This only launched in 2013 But I also respect the idea to say if we are not going to be able to do it. Well, let's not do it It seems the most concerning thing for me is that it was Web-based, right? It was that os that was supposedly making everything from the web and And the apps quote unquote that you would have were actually web apps and web pages and The fact that it doesn't work doesn't surprise me because I honestly didn't think the usability would be comparable to that of App-based os is actually making html apps that you could still launch without an internet connection It's not like everything had to go through a browser. So it of course it worked like a regular smartphone But I get what you're saying. I I agree it did technically on paper It worked like a regular smartphone, but it seems that what that means is The web isn't yet able to compete with the versatility of native apps Yeah, I don't know if that's the case. Yeah, but it seems a financial times app is always the thing that I think of It's an outlier. I get it. Most web apps are not that good, but financial times web app is great Uh researchers at tue in the netherlands have developed a two square millimeter wireless temperature sensor powered by radio waves from the wireless networks It connects with the prototype has to be 2.5 centimeters from the router right now So it's not real practical But they expect to extend the range to a meter within the coming year and ultimately to five meters They estimate the sensors should cost about 20 cents to make So suddenly internet of things becomes a lot easier to implement because it's cheap and you don't have to battery power all these sensors that so for this one specifically it's One sensor that does one thing, but I imagine others could work in that way as well. This becomes Incredibly exciting for a lot of things because yeah, just like you're saying imagine a sensor that you don't have to Change the battery or worry about Basically forever. Yes, it could open a lot of a lot of possibilities the internet of things For example, that's all I'm saying Hyperloop technologies ink announced Tuesday It has acquired 50 acres of land at the apex industrial park in north las vegas to build its first test track The propulsion the propulsion air I'm sorry the propulsion open air test will involve sending a custom designed linear electric motor Down a one kilometer track at a speed of 540 kilometers per hours And if you're wondering what a kilometer is or how much 540 kilometers per hour are I will tell you stop using that idiotic imperial system. Oh, you just had to put that in there, didn't you? I apologize. Uh, yeah, this is I don't know. This is the first This is the first Company that's working on hyperloop to get land. There's another company in california Though that is close to getting land and wants to do tests So we actually have competing companies and there are others out there with designs to do this Trying to create hyperloops. I mean I know that the hyperloop is feasible It has never felt particularly practical But it's looking like enough people are taking it seriously that aren't elon musk That are we going to have a world ruled by hyperloops someday patrick? I don't know about a world ruled by hyperloops But certainly if it was if it the fact that it just you know exists or not exist, but it's being uh Investigated seriously by different companies is kind of mind-blowing. It was what two years ago elon musk got up and said Hey, I think this might be a good idea. And all of a sudden we have multiple companies actually investing lots of money Into making it a reality. This is kind of mind-blowing and if it does work 540 kilometers per hour it maybe it's for transporting people. Maybe it's for other things But it's kind of an insane That's not even their top speed. That's just the first test Uh, yeah, and and it does it does take a while to get up to that speed So yes, it can carry humans if you don't know hyperloop It is the idea of essentially tip making a big pneumatic tube Where you put people in a pod and then you shoot the pod through air propulsion Through the tube at high speeds and they say we you could go los angeles to san francisco in an hour That is an appealing concept. Yeah Well, folks, we love your appealing concepts Let us know about them and vote on them at our subreddit daily tech news show dot reddit dot com It helps us figure out what to put in the show every day and that is a look at the headlines As I mentioned adam laschinsky has a write-up on fortune today about the experience economy The news hook for it is that disc dick costolo not disc costolo. He's a whole different guy He's really into five and a quarter inch Dick costolo former twitter CEO has joined the if only board of directors if only is a company that sells Experiences so the idea is that you can buy A chef teaching you how to cook. Well, that just sounds like a school though What about biking up mount tam with the inventors of the mountain bike now? We're talking They sell things from 20 up to five million dollars the five million dollar experience is ballooning over mount everest Which they say you have a 70 chance of living through a company was started by trevor traina Who says people's lives are pointing to experiences not things very dot com It's a very silicon valley attitude They are opening a local marketplace in san francisco for user generated experiences to be sold And a portion of the proceeds of every sale goes to a charity In fact, they've even worked with people like madonna on doing charitable experience selling altogether This is not a brand new idea b joseph pine the second and james h gilmore wrote a very famous book in certain circles back in 1999 called the experience economy They were pulling ideas from alvin toff. There's future shock from carerhard schultz's Earl been gay gazelle shot especially the experience society in german and And they're all saying that Look, there's commodities and then you turn the commodities into goods which are differentiated distinctive tangible things And then there's the service business that uses the goods to provide you services and experience is the next thing the experience Businesses changes the feeling customers get by engaging it or as trevor traina says it's selling memories And the transformation business charges for the benefit of customers received by spending time there So that's the more transformative element. Okay, all of this was considered baloney by a lot of people by the mid 2000s, but it's making a comeback patrick and it kind of fits with what we're seeing as Costs of certain things fall and companies start to go. Well, that's just a commodity. I don't want to sell that anymore This seems like a next step It seems like the experience part of every financial transaction Every customer is having nowadays is becoming more and more important and when you think of the experience economy as a Side thing that is, you know separate from commodities and and services It it might sound strange like if you you go to the website if only and you book a balloon tour on mount everest It's kind of like Yeah, I'm not sure I want to do that especially if I have a 70 chance of making it only Um, maybe that's where the name comes from if only 70 percent of you come back Well, what about spending five thousand dollars to hang out with snoop dog while he records his talk show This is you know something. I mean, it's definitely there are experiences that can be very interesting for sure And this is more of the kind of thing. I think would which would make sense. However I would argue actually some some of them are saying this already The experience economy can be part of the existing Customer experience you already have we're seeing more and more products being colored and Priced up because they provide a different kind of experience. I would argue Apple is not just selling you hardware They're selling you an experience not just the experience of Having you know going into the store and having a different kind of relationship with the product and the brand but actually having The experience of being the owner of an apple product To an extent a lot of things that things that they're crafting around their brand make it that Make it so your your purchase is a different kind of of experiences which is very intangible and I don't think So a lot of you know controversy or discussions are happening around the the specs and the hardware But it is I think it puts a name of that little different thing that we can't always define Well, and that's why when when people criticize you whether it's for an apple product or a microsoft product or a Sony product and they say well what the specs on that are just bloody bloody Blah and all it does is to play games or surf the web. Why is that one better than mine? It's because of the perception of the experience That is one of the things about the experience economy from the little bit I've read here is that you're always banking on especially when you get to the transformation part of it You're banking on the person feeling it was worth it and being transformed And if that person isn't sometimes you're not going to be able to get the money for it Yeah, no, I agree and you can that's the the important part of all of this if You create a different kind of experiences that make people feel differently Then maybe you can mark up the price and we're seeing we're moving a little bit away from tech But i'm going to bring it back to it in just a second, but in paris I'm sure you can see that in many cities, but we're starting to see Bakeries that look like Jewel restores that that are Incredibly, you know that make that make it seem luxurious and they're going to make you pay your you know croissant Twice the price of the one next door, but you feel like you're buying you feel like you're buying the feeling that you're rich Yeah, let me let me let me bring i got a great way to bring this back to tech In new york, uh, they have a cereal store. I think it's in brooklyn And it's the same it's the same thing right like going and buying paying a bunch of money for cereal who cares But it's an experience because it's an entire store devoted to cereal by people who are passionate about cereal and they collect Weird cereals and cereals you've never experienced before So you get to experience different kinds of cereals now that may sound silly if you're not into cereal But if you're a big cereal fan, suddenly that's something you want that feeling That those cereal fans have when they go to that store or that feeling That people who adore baked goods have when they go to the stores that patrick's talking about in paris Is what isps are craving on the internet when they say look We we don't want to be just done pipes. We want to sell Experiences and the problem is that's all the internet is is experiences So if the person providing the platform starts selling the experiences it causes a conflict of interest I will go even farther And I will say that in some cases the experience is the only thing you are able to sell When goods are immaterial and infinitely copyable Some companies or some individuals might have only that to to monetize and I would even argue that you and I tom Are doing this very thing. Yeah, what we are actually selling isn't the product itself. It isn't the file Yeah, right. It's not the file. We're selling basically the experience Of course, you know the feeling that you're going to be Glad you're supporting a product you enjoy, but also the experience hopefully yeah the experience of Feeling part of that community of people who are part of the adventure I mean, I certainly feel it when I'm supporting a podcast or you know anything crash scores, for example I feel good about myself and I feel like I'm part of Yeah, it's basically getting an experience when I'm supporting An artist or creator I like Now the hospitality industry Of all things has been using this some ways they say they've been doing it before pine and gilmore even wrote their book Back in 99 or even the article that spawned the book in 98 They call it exponomy the experience economy. So there's your buzzword for today But there's also a counter argument that has moved past it and saying look the value of all goods and services are co-created Or co-produced through the interaction of consumers and producers And I don't think that even necessarily contradicts what you've just been saying patrick I think it actually underlines it and says look it's not it's not selling experiences It's actually bringing your customers into a collaboration With you In some respects and I think that you have beautifully put what I've been trying to put for 10 years, which is That you aren't selling things on the internet. You are selling experiences If you're selling anything at all, but you you can't DRM and copyright law are you have got it wrong not because they're protecting intellectual property I believe in intellectual property. They over protect it as if it were a thing rather than an experience And uh, I think so first of all, let's never use the word exponomy ever again Okay, agreed. That's you know, let's let's agree on that right now And I'm wondering, you know, basically the internet and technology are pushing the possibilities for those experience Based transactions more than they were before certainly The the you know hotel and hospitality industry was selling this to an extent and you know, some of them at least But this is making the experiences available to More and more people for less and less money We were talking about creators and artists and things like that what about the virtual reality technology Is does this enable Because I've you know, I've been saying for a while that basically what virtual reality Does is that it digitizes presence In the same way that you know mp3s have digitized music and and mp3s and you know, whatever all of this has been digitized now The presence is being digitized now your bordering on strange days or total recall territory Well, instead of selling the idea of making a memory Your you can replay the memory. I you know, I don't really think I'm going that far. I really think that Uh, it's not about really the memory, but you can if you are snoop dog You can I think it's a lot more compelling if you're in the virtual presence of whoever you want to Share an experience with and virtual reality kind of does allow for this. So my point is Will that enable for more of that experience economy to develop because it's not just going to be You know snoop dog who you're going to have a small webcam with but maybe some Smaller artist that is going to say I know, you know, I have a thousand true fans and with all of you thousand true fans who support me on patreon We're going to be doing a Meetup and I'm going to be playing a little bit of music and I'm going to be doing this and that and This allows it in a way that is a lot more Tengeable than I can do a real life meetup, which is going to be better That's that experience is always going to be a premium But you're right. You can now sell that experience to a wider number of people in a satisfactory way Yeah, and and a meetup is not always practical just like, you know, we couldn't distribute mp3s through cds So thanks to the internet we can now do media at a very cost effective way If you want to do a meetup obviously not everyone is going to be able to make it blah, blah, blah But if you have a vr Headset It kind of feels a lot better. So yeah, it's another step Well, we used to not be able to communicate with each other unless we were in the same room and then telephones came along Right and it's that whole progression to vr makes it just that much closer To being able to be with someone in real life without actually Yeah, physically there and and the point is I think it further expands the possibilities of that experience economy which creates a Financial, you know opportunities for people to monetize things that didn't really even exist before Well, tyler in surprisingly pleasant new jersey has a relevant pick of the day for us He was listening to our observations about the business model of t d tns on episode 26 31 Where I was explaining we effectively give away our content and today we're talking about it's an experience It made tyler think of a slightly similar platform for sharing music called noise trade The principle as envisioned by the co-founder and president and singer and songwriter derrick web Is that artists give away their music for free for optional customer-determined donation and that artists build Relationships with their listeners and invite them to live shows where many small-time artists make most of their money anyway In other words, they have the experience of the live show. It's a cool service tyler says I've used it often and also interesting regarding current discussions of intellectual property and distribution I like seeing building relationships and community driving capitalism says tyler But it's a great example of what you're talking about patrick Sell that relationship to an extent I guess we're stretching it a little bit, but it can go even farther. I get that yeah Send your picks to us folks feedback at daily tech news show.com. You can find my picks at daily tech news show.com slash picks A couple of messages regarding our conversation yesterday Uh for for one, uh, windy to willa in utah pointed out about the enigma machine and how that was used in world war two and uh, the fact that Sometimes they had to allow attacks to happen So that their knowledge of the enigma code would not become apparent to the Germans and brandon says well It's terrible to think that anyone would be harmed in any way Wouldn't it be better for the us to quietly work with social media to track down Terrorists rather than cutting them off completely Also, tyler wrote in and said it occurs to me that some of the potential mishandling by government of encryption and censorship Stems from not enough tech oriented people working for the government Government succeeds when they understand the problem consider how the fbi dismantled the mafia in america in large part because they hired Italian americans, italian speakers and former mafiosos in contrast. They have fallen behind the curve of tech regulation they The government has been hiring tech people into it and it does not seem to have as big of an effect, I suppose but but I I do get where tyler's going and I like the idea of saying You need to get people who are very good at spreading a message and understand that message to combat an opposing message You know, I was it's funny. I was mentioning something about this on twitter earlier today. Um I don't know exactly how much The the people in charge and understand about uh computer science and the internet but What some of the things that they are saying And that they are proposing suggest to me that they understand very little to an extent that is at least You know, that's my experience in in france to an extent that is Cause for concern you wouldn't be you know Happy with someone who is in charge of anything Serious in the government if they don't understand the basics of supply and demand, you know very basic concepts of economy You don't have to be an expert But you should probably understand it a little bit and it seems to me that those basics They don't understand those and I don't know if it's a generational problem. I don't know if it's a A pandering to after a crisis but more and more I'm concerned about this and You can't have someone You know make this Grave decisions on anything today if they don't understand the internet and computers, you know, at least the basics so that's Why not have the government? put together a team of Islamic creators from youtube twitter snapchat etc And and and and asked them to Go out and spread a good message It sound it may sound ridiculously naive, but so was enigma in world war two. Yeah Levi Wallach monthly patreon backer said hey just finished listening to your show from monday december 7th Had a comment regarding google's new reminder integration with calendar I think this is a great step in the right direction But a very baby step as veronica mentioned there are many other options out there I wanted to suggest one that wasn't mentioned that some of your listeners might find useful I've been using a gmail plugin called active inbox for several years They use his gmail labels and a custom overlay on top of gmail to create task management Functionality through email messages it's based on a pared down version of getting things done And allows you to set statuses context and due dates But none of those are mad or mandatory in other words, although there's support for a highly structured gtd system It's flexible enough for you to design your own framework now It doesn't have apps yet, but he's hoping it'll come to ios and android Uh, I guess that could have been a pick of the day too, but it was directly related to What we were talking about with reminders. So good good to pass along to people as well. It's uh It's a cool plugin for gmail called active inbox only works on the web Thank you levi for sending that and thank you petrick masia for being on the show Thank you for having me as always. It's a pleasure It is as always a pleasure frenchspin.com, of course the place to go to find patrick's work You can follow him on twitter twitter.com slash not patrick. What do you got going on lately? um, I guess facebook is uh, there as well facebook.com slash not patrick and A couple of video game shows if you aren't listening to the instance with scott johnson You should we had a great roundup of the Uh alpha version of legion the next world of warcraft expansion That speaks to a portion of your audience, but sure. I know some of them might be next to me I'm just excited that it's not a hunter talk on the instance anymore. We got some mage representation up in that house. That's all i'm saying Thank you, sir. 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I know Yeah, bye-bye get your ass to experience get y'all asked to experiences um Focus on the content Imperial rebellion uh Okay total vr recall Twitter does the time warp again. It's just a jump to the left Uh the internet of things dot dot all the dots Uh the experience exchange. I like that. Yeah, I like the experience exchange actually welcome to the experience delivery network That's the new name. That's our new name. Yeah experience delivery and eat again Uh Todd's already Todd's already got the url Uh Hype Perloup Nothing nothing's getting you. Well, there is too many battery cases to Loses the rhythm a little somehow doesn't it? I guess it would be too many bats too many bats, but too many case I don't know okay, you know what watching this stopping in the middle is weird extremely strange I Think we should call it exponomy. Yeah, I actually just saw that and that looks really good And that'll be the last time you ever hear me say it exponomy Um p s uh my dog went to matt's work today And oh my gosh, it's causing an internet ruckus An internet ruckus like he's all jack says all over other people's facebook Which is really weird. That's great. That's great. Jax is expanding his experience. He is he is he Jax is a rentable experience. That's how I can make money. Yeah Right, it's not rent. It's like experience jacks Experience jack you too. Have you seen him on facebook? You too can experience jacks seriously Like I feel like he would be such a fun experience You can only experience jacks in los angeles. Yeah, there's no virtual jacks You could call it uber jacks The uber for dogs. Yeah So there we go. I'm not going to say the name because I said I'd never say it again. Yeah, but that's the name That's the name Is petrick still watching too many? Yes I'm not sure what I'm watching anymore. It gets so dark Yeah, it takes a turn There towards the end Oh crap. We need to mention mike's book. Oh my gosh. We do for reminding me. I need to put that in the template. I guess um The internet is like a snowblower and 200 other things I got wrong about tech this year is available now on amazon We're actually gonna make got plans to put it in the dts store as well And you can get it for a mere zero dollars in kindle unlimited or 2.99 So it is all of the saturday posts That mike ranged saturday evening posts. He does post them on saturday evening, doesn't he? That's awesome From daily tech news show.com. So if you think mike's funny, which you should if you're human and you breathe Then you should go buy the internet is like a snowblower and 200 200 other things I got wrong about tech this year. I hope he makes this an annual event That would be fantastic. I can't believe I I haven't gotten my copy yet. I wonder if I accidentally zapped The it would be an amazon, right? Well, he'll send you a if if he sends you a copy he'll send you a link that you can redeem So you have to get you have to look for an email from him I wonder if it got zapped accidentally because justin already got his Yeah, I got mine too. Yeah, so maybe it's zapped So funny he it's like it makes my day when I see the link I know It's such a he's such a good writer I know it And it's got a scott johnson cover Right. No, it's len. It's len. Sorry Oh, don't make that mistake Yo, it's got a len peralta cover Uh, so yeah, so you get a len you get len peralta art In your e-book and then you get the e-book and it costs you three bucks You got three bucks It's nothing. Oh, this is great Look at that great cover Okay Yeah, it happened I am I am speechless um the second part It is definitely not as Something as the first I mean part the half it's I feel like it suffers from being not watched uh in one go. Yeah Yeah, because it sort of lose the The fun portion and what the fuck portion of the beginning and then it's just creepy and and Depressing and weird and it's kind of weird to jump back in right there right there at that turning point Yeah, they're all like that though that's what makes them so funny Oh, there are more of those things, uh, if you go to youtube and search for adult swim Adult swimming is the programming block on cartoon network What do you call euros? Uh, like three three bucks. Is there a short term for euros like rose? Well Uh in french there is but not No, not in english that I know of well, what is it in french? Ball which is bowls or bullets depending on ball Yeah, ball three ball or five ball or Ball Yeah, see, but then you have to actually say it right and then it sounds weird if you're english If you're speaking english I'm not english So i'm gonna i'm gonna watch a little bit of the videos of the adult swim channel roger We'll see what happens. It's not now, but at some It's pretty crazy There's some really wild And funny stuff It takes a certain kind of rick and morty or adult swim, aren't they? Uh, yeah, I think yeah I mean some of it's uh, some of it's just Good adult cartoon, but they do they do they have a specific List of these late night Advertorial Oh, yeah, they make they make these little one-off things. Yeah. Oh, so I see you suggested uh, Icelandic ultra blue, which I guess that one's pretty funny too Okay, I'm gonna yeah, I'll watch it later. It's 10 minutes again. Thanks. I see you check it out Oh having a new phone Well, you got a 3g. What was that? I know that was weird, right? So it's always whenever it connects by edge I hear that And uh, Patrick, have you guys seen the book of christ one on adult swim? On the youtube channel, it's There's a part of it that just has me stitches all the time I guess I've discovered a new rabbit hole of internet things We have done you a Service and disservice at the same time Your internet knowledge is now more complete, but your life has lost valuable minutes Has it though A life lived without watching too many cooks is not a life well lived You know if Maybe enjoyment out of it I'd say it's worth watching TV worth watching Wait a minute was that take no, that wasn't take tv No, it wasn't isn't a pbs or something I thought that was tv worth paying for every year during during the uh Fundraising drive donate five hundred dollars now. We'll give you a complete vhs set of star wars act So what title did you land on the unnet sayable word? The word we agreed never to say again Ah excellent It begins with ex actually yeah This keeps happening Is not that the eternal trade-off of the internet says tinvec knowledge for time Is that not the currency upon which the experience economy rests? I don't know that it is knowledge Is it might be entertainment Might be Idea classic sense. It's knowledge or information, but It's a fair point. Well our Episode who we could never refer to by its name now The one that that shall not be so that shall not be named Uh, thank you all for watching. We'll be back tomorrow. Goodbye