 You can't talk about it, can you? I just don't want you to come in, I can't eat a cow. What does she say? You've got to put on a line. This is a public space. Be proud of the animal killing. Have you seen this before? Oh, we know about pigs. All right, here from Australia? Yeah. So am I? Yeah. My sister's on the street, so she doesn't want to see any bacon on free range. Do you think it's okay to eat free range pigs? Free range pigs. Yeah, do you think it's like... Eat out of the paddock. Yeah, like out of the paddock, like... Eat out of the paddock. You know what I mean? Do you have a farmer or... Yeah, a farmer. What animals do you farm? Or just... Idea? Yeah. Okay. So don't tell me that I've wronged the cat's half-cows. Do you think it's wrong to kill cows? No. Are they friendly? Yeah. Do you know many of them? No, it's dark, mate. You feel bad killing them? Is that why you don't know? No, not at all. I don't feel bad killing them. I feel... Do you kill them? It's okay to kill a cow to feed my family and put that one cow in it. For survival? For survival. Are you doing that to survive? Yeah. You can't... You can't talk about it, can you? I just don't want you... I mean, I can't eat a cow. No, I see... Is killing cows wrong? Excuse me. You feel bad. That's why you can't talk about it. If you're proud of it, then be proud of it. To generation. Do you watch them be slaughtered? Can I? Yeah. Do you watch them? Do you like it? Um... As humans, our bodies need all these different minerals and proteins. Name one that we can't get from Plain Bay site. Name one. Oh! Go on. Um... What did she say? What did she say? What did she say? This is a public space. This is a public space. Be proud of the animal killing. This is a public space. There's cameras everywhere. We've been filming for years, so we know what to do. You have no right to kill cows against their will. If you're fine killing cows, then you've got to complete justification to do it. And you don't mind. Like, why do you get so defensive about it and emotional about it? Like, you should be, like, screaming it from the rooftops. Yes, I'd decapitate my cows, and I love my cows, but I send them to be slaughtered. She automatically got so emotional and so triggered and so defensive, you're not going to tell me it's wrong to kill my cows. Well, you know in your heart that it's wrong. That's why you reacted like that. Don't even have to have a day's worth of therapy experience to understand that was the most uncomfortable conversation for you. She tried to avoid it so hard because she knew where it was going. If you're a farmer yourself, right, and you have cows out on the grass and you go to see them every day, you know they have personalities, you know that they're sentient beings, that value they're heard and that they come to their name, and they're like big puppy dogs, right? And then she has to send them to be decapitated so she can eat their desecrated remains. That must be niggling inside of her heart because there's no reason to react like that, really. And I just asked her, do you think killing cows is wrong? No, I don't want to talk about that. I don't want to talk about that. So, yeah, this is where you get anti-veganism from. People who know in their heart that it's wrong but try to defend it and then she kind of looked at me like I was kind of crazy for asking these questions, but she said we have no right to post it. You're probably watching this on YouTube right now and we've got every right to post it. If she cares so much about rights, maybe she should think about the rights of the sentient being. She says to be decapitated. What's more of a rights violation being filmed in a public space which is completely legal in the UK? Or having your head cut off to be turned into a burger? I'll let you think about that.