 So my name is Abdul Rahman and I have it with me, I don't know if you can see, Tamim is half his year, we both are. So we are not funeral director, we are here in Bay Area, and we, our local masajid here takes care of the goosal basically, and work with the funeral director to get the paperwork. And, and so we've been doing this goosal, and also work with the family to get their paperwork, you know, to speed up their paperwork. So we've been doing this for last more than 10 years, myself, and same with the brother Tamim here. So basically we are volunteers. We started off, you know, 12 years or 14 years ago, one of my friend passed away. So I was there doing my first goosal, then, and then there was a need in the community for giving goosal. And so I started doing that, and Tamim also joined me 10 years ago so we've been doing that since then. So, so there are a lot of things that go after death, like brother Rahman mentioned. And so I'm going to basically go over, you know, after the fact when a person passes away, we get a call. So our masajid here, there is one masajid here in Bay Area, that's where I'm from, Fremont. There are over 60,000 to 75,000 deaths that we see in a year. And they are all men, women, stillbirths, you know, and young adults, all kinds, gunshot wounds and all kind of unnatural deaths all come here into our masajid. Can you say 60 to 70,000 deaths? Yes. Okay, just want to check. So 60 to 70,000 deaths. So but in the Bay Area, where you know California Bay Area, we have three masajids that offer goosal and work with the funeral director. We have a facility in the masjid, which I will show in a bit that we do goosal here and work with the funeral director. So what I plan to do in the next 20 or 30 minutes or 10 minutes is to go over the slides. Let me share my slide. Actually, before you get to that, a question just came in. Sure. What are the names of the three masjids that you just referenced? So the Lauri Masjid is the one that we are associated with. There is, it's called Islamic Society of East Bay, Islamic, Islamic Society of East Bay, which is in Fremont. The other one is in MCA, which is in Santa Clara. And also we have one in Oakland, and there are other places as well in Stockton, as well as in Sacramento. So here we see around 60 to 75,000 a year, basically. And sometimes in a week, there are four or five. And for men, so the men team takes care of the men, and then we have a women team that takes care of the women musul. So we have three marks. So let me share my screen. So what I'm going to go through is basically what it takes to do the paperwork, the cost, and also we can jump into the practical aspect of musul, and inshallah. So it's called Lauri Masjid or Islamic Society of East Bay. So basically I'm going to go over these, the basic process that involves the do's and don'ts. And many people, you know, these are key to note, you know, and then we can jump into the musul and shrouding, shrouding inshallah. Basically shrouding involves involves the kafan. So basically what kind of we see ups. And the kinds of death. Basically, we have natural deaths where the people generally, they pass away naturally due to, you know, their long life, or old age, or some could be due to illness, and they've been in hospital for a long time. So they all fall under natural death, where you need a death certificate eventually. Then you have stillbots where you lose a baby before or during delivery. There are two categories under them. One is less than 20 weeks, and then you have the 20 weeks and above. So the one under less than 20 weeks, you don't need a paperwork, basically. For anything about 20 weeks, you know, stillbots early, later, or term, you will need a paperwork. And then you have unnatural death. You know, due to accident, gunshot wounds and all that. So all, so these are the three kinds. And to bury an individual, you would need a burial permit. And to get a burial permit. The funeral director would, you know, reach out to the doctor. And the doctor is the one who is supposed to state the cause of death. Merely stating, you know, heart attack is not going to give a burial permit. It needs to be an underlying condition that resulted in heart attack. So these are the three kinds of deaths that we see. And the one under less than 20 weeks, you don't need a paperwork. And sometimes in the hospitals, you know, the Christians or anyone, they send it to the incinerator. They just, you know, they just, you know, burn them off. But as Muslims, we can ask the hospital to give, you know, give the, due to miscarriage, the, you know, stuff to the family and they can bury them in their backyard. And this is all, again, these are all what is, you know, these are all what happens here in California. And it can vary from state to state. So, and real quick, so to get a death certificate, that's usually something that the hospital or the funeral home provides, right? Yeah, it comes from the county. So basically, on the day of the death, you get a burial permit two weeks after the death certificate will be made. So that's what happens. So, so the key things here dos and dos don't this couple of things that are listed here and it's very critical to know unnatural deaths, you know, as soon as I mean unnatural deaths could be car accidents, you know, or gunshot wounds, any kind of an unnatural death, it could also be at home, you know, a person is suffering from high blood pressure for a long many years, and then one night they pass away. The first thing that you're supposed to do is call 911. And, and as soon as the police arrives, the first thing they're going to do is they're going to send the disease to the coroners. And this is where we need to be careful if you know that a person has been suffering, you know, high blood pressure for a very long time. You want to immediately reach out to a doctor, and, and get him involved right away, and make sure that the police doesn't send the send the disease to the coroner's office. You know, so those are the things which you have to keep an eye on, or if a person is suffering for a long time, you need to make sure that your medical records are updated all the time. They're not in touch with the doctors all the time. So in case of any unnatural death, you are there to call your doctor and, and, and prevent that individual being taken to the coroner's because as soon as, as soon as it goes to a corner, they're going to do an autopsy, and that's what you don't want to do. So, so we have to be very careful when, when in case of any unnatural deaths, you don't want a corner, you don't want the disease to be sent to the corners. So that's very important and get the, the medical records updated you don't, you want to see the doctor often, you don't want to, you know, because what happens is when a person passes away, and if you call a doctor, the doctor is saying, the doctor is going to say that I don't know, you have never reached me you never, you know visited me for such a long time, I will not be in a position to give a cause of death. One of the doctors will be available to give a cause of death, and that's where the coroner's come in place. You know, the coroner is going to do an autopsy and find the cause of death. The reason is, the way they have to do an autopsy is, you know, you have to, it could be a, it could be a drug. It could be a death due to drug or it could be for any unnatural reasons, you know, so that so the coroner is going to do an autopsy is going to cut open the chest and the head. And, you know, sometimes they lose parts, and sometimes coroner's coroner's offices are flooded with dead bodies, and they stack more than one in a morgue, sometimes three or four are stacked in the coroner's morgue, and you don't want, you know, Muslim brothers or sisters to go through that. The other thing is that I generally tell or advise people here is to visit doctors often, keep your medical records updated, and be in touch with the doctor so that when you, at time of death, you can reach out to the doctor, and the doctor is there to tell I can, I'm ready to sign the cause of death. It's only when a doctor is ready, you are able to get the burial permit. And it's only with the burial permit, you are able to bury the disease. So it's very important to get the medical records updated. If the parents are alone, I suggest not to leave them alone. I have seen parents who have passed three days ago, just because no one is there to take care he he passed away alone in his home. It's three days later a son or a daughter comes in to find out that he's already passed away. So, never to leave parents alone. And like you know brother Rami mentioned, you know, we even in barrier we don't have any elderly homes, you know, or any, you know, any care facilities where elderly can be taken care. So if you have an elderly parents, it's safe to keep them with you, you know, and never to leave them alone. On that note, yeah, especially making your house or whatever house your parents are staying in slip proof. So like having rubber mats on the floor railings. Easy to get around like that's super super super important because floors can get wet it's very easy to slip. And yeah, it's always important to make sure that those safety things are implemented. That's true. And then in barrier we see a lot of students over drivers. They're on job working 24 hours night shifts day shops and they, they go through accidents, and they get, you know, some, some, you know, have heart attacks. And you know what happens if you don't have any information with you, they are going to send it out to any other you know Christian Christian churches or any contacts that these hospitals or coroners that they have them. And these Muslims there to, you know, to, you know, accredit them. So, so students and Uber drivers, you know, many of them, we are, you know, key thing is, keep someone informed where you're going, what you have have something written down, you know have it in your wallet, that way, they can reach your friends and family and then a proper Muslim burial can happen. And then the last one the important thing is, you know, request comes all the time, I want to, you know, transport them to India Pakistan, or Bangladesh, you know, or a different state, just because there are other dear ones are buried there. The one key thing that that's important here is embalming so when you ship or transport any deceased embalming is required embalming is basically, it's a process where they take out all the fluids from your body, and put in formality and fill it up with formaldehyde, which prevents the decaying of the deceased and so, and also these formal formaldehydes are very, you know, cancerous water soluble so you don't want that to happen you don't want your body to go through all those kind of embalm, you know, you don't want to go through this embalming process which is, which is against you know, even our scholars here Ulama, they keep telling you don't need to transport anything. Just, you know, bury them at the place of, you know, in the place of death you don't have to ship them to any other place or any other. So these are key things that I wanted to bring to the attention. Remember, do's and don'ts. The next one I have here is the basic process here. So as soon as the funeral home or me gets an information about the deceased person we get all the information. The funeral home is going to send a transportation to either a coroner's home or a hospital to pick the deceased and bring them to the must. And while the deceased is in the must yet, you know, the funeral home is going to contact your doctor so it's very important to have the doctor in the loop, because and to also let him know that that he's going to get a call from the funeral home. You know, if you, if you don't have your doctor ready, you know, the Janaza, the goosal cannot happen the same day. It'll have to be postponed they have, you have to put, put the deceased in the morgue for a couple of days. So you want to make sure the doctor is always in the picture, and he's, he's notified. And this way, the Janaza can the goosal can happen and the Janaza can happen on the same day. So here in Beria, we make it a point if it comes at eight in the morning night, we do it on the same day till one. So it's very key to have the doctor in loop if doctor is on surgery on vacation. Now, you are not able to get the burial permit and we can't do goosal and, and the disease can be buried. So it's very critical that the doctor is informed, and he should be aware to pick the call from the funeral home because the key thing is the cause of death. So, so, so it's without a cause of death from the doctor certifying the county or the state cannot issue a burial permit. So it's very important. I was just curious. And I'm not as familiar, but maybe if you know or even brother money or if you know, are there resources in the community, because these are big costs and are the reasonable but they can be cost are there resources that for people can turn to if they can't afford these costs. Does the community have resource to help people. Yeah, yeah, all of our websites. So all of our websites have a link. So I can share the link from our website here in the Bay Area. So, so as soon as it basically this as soon as you, you know here anyone deceased you go to our website funeral service and you have contact numbers. So we are here, three of us the imam myself, always there 24 by seven to pick up the calls, and we want to make sure that the janessa the whistle happens and the janessa happens at the very same time on the same day, and he gets gets buried. Yeah, and, and, and also, we do get calls that someone is sick in there in the last stage what what should we do. And those are the times we quickly, you know, go visit them some and we tell them, this is what is needed, especially, you know, when they are in hospitals, you have all these tubes that are that are, you know, put into your body, we tell them to make sure the nurses are there to take those out before, you know, before or after their demise, basically. So those, those kind of pointers, we let them know, we also have the paperwork, the details for filling up those forms available on the website. And also we have mobile apps, where you can fill in those information. And this all happens within four hours. As soon as a person calls me and, you know, tells me there's a disease person. It takes two hours to to transport them to the must it. And if you know ahead of time we tell them, you know, you know, make sure the doctor is aware of aware of this, if you want to expedite the brilliant. Yeah, it's great that I'm glad that there are resources out there to help people and I will say, especially as people that, if we do have a place of privilege is to really set aside these costs in advance as we were putting together wills. Set aside money like this so if a funeral is going to cost roughly around six seven $8,000 is set that money aside maybe it's $100 every year or this and that like to buy sneakers that cost this much like we should be setting this money aside because let's not worry about our kids and our future love ones to take that money aside now, create an account move that aside and so that that is taken care of because it's great that I'm glad that there are resources out there for families that can't afford these during very turbulent times but we also don't want to strain those resources as well we want to make sure those resources are for emergency purposes for people that truly truly truly are in dire space so if we can lessen that burden on these resources. So let's set money aside and so that's something that I can't stress enough as well. Yeah, and let me just say, this is linear that whenever there is someone we call it the engine, it's a Muslim fund. So the center mon mosque and the MCC and pleasant in. We both have a joint fund where we cover the cost, and we have a financial kind of a foreign application. We ask for cost sharing from the family because it is a limited fund, and we usually do four or five a month of folks that cannot be buried by and and then MCA has a fund as well so we with between the three organizations were able to cover. Pretty well but it is a limited fund so it's important for folks to have some savings and we do ask that as well if you could contribute anything towards the cost so we don't we're not covered the complete burden of the cost using community funds. Yeah, and we're not here to do a fundraiser today but yeah it is important to support initiatives like this because when families are grieving. What I want to think about is do I have to work couple extra hours to how am I going to pay for this. It's really really really overwhelming and so if we are in places of privilege to not only think about our own funerals but to help other families make their lives easier. It's definitely something worth considering and may law reward each and every one of you for stepping up because this is super super super difficult for many families and it's great that there are resources out there to help people. Mashallah you know MCC does a lot. Our Masjid also has some funds but you know. I mean if you look at the cost here, the basic funeral services so basically, as soon as the doctor is heard, you know, states the cost of death, you get a burial permit. So the funeral home is going to charge around $2,000 here and what it does is transportation, get this burial permit and then the horse to take it to the cemetery. So, so that's that's around $2,000 at the cemetery. This is five pillars farm which is a Muslim owned cemetery here in the Bay Area, which is in Livermore. The adult burial cost is $5,900. And for a child, it's 2,500. And if it's weekend or a holiday, it's going to be $500 more. So if I have a question that just came up and I think you touched base on it earlier but if you spell out a little bit more. What is a funeral home compared to the function at the Masjid like if I lose a loved one. Do I contact the funeral home what role does the funeral home play and what role does people like yourself in the Masjid play. Yeah, exactly. So that's a good question. So here we, the funeral home is not exposed at all. It's always the most it. The first call that comes is is the Masjid from the link. And there are three contact numbers or four contact numbers, and the call comes to us first, and they and the family don't even have to worry about the funeral home at all. All they have to do is give us the information, or there's a mobile app just fill that information and the rest. We make sure, you know, the funeral home is on top of it. We make sure the transportation is happening within two hours and we make sure the goosal happens in the Masjid. So, all that happens in the Masjid is coordination and a goosal facility. By the way, the MCM Masjid does have a funeral director. So sometimes we work with the MCM Masjid in Santa Clara to get the, get the burial permit. But other than that, the family, all they have to do is work with the, the imam or the volunteers, and, and, and the website is there to update them as well. And they also get emails, you know. So, so the basically our Lauri Masjid has a goosal facility, and that's what happens in the Masjid and we coordinate with the funeral home. At the end of the day they pay us, we pay the funeral home $2,000, we give them the invoice as well. As far as the symmetry is concerned, the individual has to pay the symmetry directly and here it's going to be a cashier check or a cash, you know, no, no, no check. So symmetry, they directly take the cashier check and, and pay, pay the symmetry five builders, and it's going to be $5,000. A question that came up is can you post a link in the chat to everyone for the website you mentioned in the phone number to contact. So basically here the sum of the, the cost is $7,900 to $8,400 if it's a weekend, you know, and for a child it's almost $5,000. So what, what it basically takes in the symmetry right what basically takes, you know, what are the costs that goes into that $5,900 from what I am aware of is basically here in California every grave. You will, if you see the picture here grave liner so every grave has a grave liner. But in this picture right the top part, the top part is not going to be there it's just from, from this part all the way to the bottom where you will see the, the mud. You see it's just an outliner, and then there is a top cover. All these are made of concrete. So, so, so this is laid on every grave, just because of the, the law in California because of the earthquakes and stuff like that. So those are mandatory ones. The, the, the car, the grave sites itself cost $2,000 per per site here, and the rest of the 3,900 goes to this grave liner endowment fee the lead the marker so every grave has a marker just name and the date. And then the opening and the closing of the grave cost so they all cost $3,900. And then you have. Oh, so these are the main two costs. Most of the time right here in barrier we use only a cardboard carrier, which is free to carry the deceased with the, you know, coffin inside so when when we don't. So this is called also called casket but this is not lowered with the deceased, you know, so we just take the person the deceased person and lower him and onto the grave. We don't use any other casket but recently I've seen people using like brother honey who makes caskets. I've seen two or three lately, where some families demand that they want their, you know, dear ones to be buried in a wood wooden casket, which is around $500. Yeah, a very state by state actually in New Jersey, the law requires people to be buried in a box and that's why that's the only reason why people are placed in a box so it's super simple. Yeah, that's that's correct here as well actually there are two couple of symmetries like the laundry and couple of other they mandated them to be in the wooden caskets. So, but whereas with five pillars which is a Muslim run symmetry, there is no such requirement so so all, all we do is carry the deceased after the coffin into the cardboard box and then we take them near the grave, lift the body and place him inside the grave so. So this is the basic coffin which I'll go and into the practical part in a bit, basically for men, we use three, you know, piece of unstitched cloth, one is like a shirt coming. And one is a is our like a lungi. And for those who don't know what a coffin is, can you explain what the, what's outing of it is okay. Yeah, this is basically we shroud after the goosal after the body bath. We shroud every deceased one with the. So the sunna is three piece of unstitched clothes and this is just a. So one, one has a slit here there's a back that looks like a shirt. There's a back part on the front part with the slit for the neck. And then there is a the biggest piece which is at the bottom, and then you have one for the for the trouser side, you know, the is our. So these are the basic things, and this is the facility of our must, if you look at here, this is Lauri Masjid and Fremont Islamic Society of East Bay. So we have a facility of three mobs here. So at any point of time we have we have seen many, many, many times, three deceased and we do three genozes in a day at a time. And then we have this one, some someone sometime, you know, a large for large person we use these to lift and lower. And basically this is the table where we, you know, where we lay the deceased and do the goosal so basically you this is the table, there's a whole and there and there are these. What do you call lines to let the water run through at the end of it and get into the sink. And you have water, and these have vents ventilation, and you know the rooms are kept clean so. And after every goosal, we have someone come in and and it cost $150 so sometimes we also ask the Masjid also ask a donation, at least $150 just because it takes that much to clean up, you know, after every every goosal. So, so this is the basic picture. So that's all I have at this point. There's a couple questions. Yeah, again if you can post the obviously in a little bit if you can post the link to the website you mentioned the phone number. Somebody asked about is there a place in the liver more certain cemetery dedicated for Muslims or our religions. Well that is dedicated to Muslims. And there are many other cemeteries which are Christian runs. They have a portion of the cemeteries, which are Muslim ones. So there's a designated area within that, which is Muslim ones. And obviously those will cost more. You know, and it can go to $23,000 more. It could be even $14,000. You know we're talking about $80,000 here. We're talking about around $14,000, you know. So, so there is, there is also one in Sacramento which is two and a half hours away from the Bay Area up north. That that is also a Muslim one cemetery. And that is a little bit cheaper because it's out of the Bay Area. And for the local people there it's, it's cheaper as well. But for people from the Bay Area it's going to cost, cost a bit more. So, so what we plan next is, you know, so as soon as you know a deceased comes in, you know, we prepare him for the Goosal. So there are two aspects to it, the Goosal is basically washing. So every deceased is given a Goosal to you know purify him. They are shrouded. And then they are put in the cardboard casket. And then after Zohar, the Janaza prayer is led. And then they are taken by the herds to the cemetery. So, if you're ready then we can go jump into the Goosal as well as I mean the washing as well. Let's do that in the meantime brother money or if you can send that I think you accidentally sent those links to just the panelists can you send that to everybody in the chat if you just select forces to to everyone who can send those links those are great resources. Thanks. Sorry, I have this video presentation as well as I could post some money is it from the lowering machine or I'm putting on the MCC web page and then it links very much website. Okay, perfect. Go ahead with your demonstration if you like. Okay. So is that okay I'm on. Absolutely. So I'm going to use my mobile phone and so basically what we're going to do so what happens is, as soon as the disease sometimes the disease come in the, you know, directly when they come in. They are laid over the table. If it is our previous night, we store them in this mark and next day morning we. So we generally encourage the family members. I personally encourage all the family members to participate because the honey said, the honey says a person who involves and it was like brother honey mentioned 40 major sins are forgiven. But in addition to that, whatever we see, you know, of the deceased, we have it is, it's obligated upon us to keep it as a man we're not supposed to share any kind of imperfections. You know, in a lost limb, you know, bloodshot wounds, or any kind of an autopsy things to, to reveal it to any spouse or, you know, that's a key aspect of giving a go so is, is to keep it to yourself till you die. There are certain imperfections or shortcomings of the disease that we see, and then participate in the go so, you know, 40 major sins of forgiven and, and I, and Tommy, we are here all the time, you know, just to take advantage of those blessings, you know, and, and, and the key thing is no in the go so area. We all do voodoo and come in, we make sure we have all our aprons and PPK, you know, if it is a code post code, we make sure we have PP kit, you know, we wear them, we wear glasses, aprons, and, you know, head covering as well as the show covering all those. And we make sure, you know, one do that we allow or let people know is Allah, forgive the deceased, you know, we also make it a point to tell ourselves, Allah forgive us. Apart from that no recitation of Quran once the puzzle is complete and the, the washing and the Strouding, we take them into an room where we allow the mehrems to view the deceased and then we cover the head. So those are the basic things. And one other key thing is the Sattar. Sattar is is, you know, modesty is very key in, in the Islam Islamic religion. So, so for men, the Sattar is the area between naval to below the knee. So that area of of the deceased is always is always closed. Anything we do, we do under the hood under the covers of that area from the start to finish. So the first thing what we do is, as if it is hospital, it's going to be a hospital bag. If it's if it's a COVID case, it's going to be a double bag. Sometimes it comes from home with clothes. So what we do is we cover the Sattar, we're going to show in a second cover the Sattar and undo all the clothes. And also we make it a point if we can remove any kind of a variables like watch rings that are easily removable. We do that. Some people have the tea sets. If there is no rigor mortis set in, you know, and if it is easy to take out the, you know, the false teeth, we take that as well. So those are a couple of key things we don't let anyone cut nails or cut hair. None of those sort, you know, and, and all these things are removal removals, you know, only if it is easily retrievable or taken out. If it is not, we leave it. Yeah, I want to be mindful of time so we can go ahead, the brother of mine is going to switch cameras real quick and get the demo to show you all what the the washing process looks like. Assume that this is the deceased and I have him on the table and, you know, it has, you know, it has some coverings probably. So the first thing what we do is we lay him down on the, so by the way, the Kibla for the deceased, you know, or the living and the dead as Prophet Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam said is Kaaba. So we make sure that the person is laid in such a way that the right side of his is facing the Kibla, the Kaaba side. So that's very, we make it a point and then before starting Ghusl, we make give them make an intention of giving Ghusl to the Mayat or the deceased to purify him and to also fulfill the obligation as well as according to the Sunnah and for the sake of Allah. So with those intentions and with those, you know, the things that I mentioned before about no Quranic recitation and those things we start off undoing the clothes. So before undoing the clothes, I have brother Tamim here. So what we do is quickly, we have two towels, we just lay down two towels. There's another one as well. So we make sure, like I said, the Sattar Sattar is the area between the navel and and below the knee. So that area we make sure is covered all the time. And so one vertically. Yeah, yeah. So this way one horizontally so we make sure the Sattar is covered. So basically we undo the clothes. What we do is basically unzip. If it is a hospital bag, or any any kind of a thing what we do is unzip everything. If you need we turn him on his left or right, make sure each and everything is taken out of the of the deceased with the with the Sattar covered. We also make it a point, any kind of cubes, you know, cubings. We take the consent. I mean we ask the family members if they can take it out on our behalf because we are no experts here while doing this. So that's where we tell if they are in the hospital to take out all those tubes and stuff away after after their disease to the hospital. So we undo the clothes, any kind of patches bed sores. If it is very hard to take it out. We let it stay there, but any kind of a thing like a bandage or anything we make it a point to take it out with all this and one key thing is, again, when we have the Sattar covered whatever we do we make sure that we don't gaze at the private parts of the individual at no point of time. All the time we have our gaze down, and we start up with this. And the first thing what we do like, and this goosal, goosal is washing this goosal washing is very similar to our jumma goosal that we give for our jumma or any any kind of a goosal that we give. Basically, there are three parts to it, you know, the first thing we do is before doing that the first thing we do is to watch the private parts. So the private parts, and then any other area which is, which is which has filth, we make it a point to clean all those first. And that is exactly what we do even a jumma goosal. And the second thing is the voodoo, voodoo is the second thing which we do. And the third one is a body bath. And the one key thing is, we always start from the right, and then do the left. So these are the three major parts in a goosal which is very similar to what we do with our goosal for jumma or any other goosal. So the first thing what we do is, is to wash the private parts, assume that the disease is completely taken off the cloth, it's just the Sattar himself and the Sattar covered. The first thing we do is lift him up and lift him up to the shoulder a bit and press his abdomen three times. So this way the bowel, we put all the muscles on the brow, make sure all impurities come out of the, of the disease. So that's the first step before we start with Estinja. So for Estinja, the rule is we make it a point if you see there, there are many small clothes like this where we tie, wrap around. We make it a point that the hand doesn't feel the private parts. And, and so we use small turkey towels like this, and we soak it in water, and we use soap as well. And there are few brothers, at least five or six around us to hold those towels up. So he's holding one. So he puts his hand down and make sure the front part of the, of the private part is washed. So we do this and throw away those towels. We use as many as small towels are needed to clean the private on the front of the private part. And also I make it a point to make sure that the groin area, because these are the hard areas, make sure that those areas are also washed and cleaned until they find they feel good about about this. Now, as soon as the top part and the groin is done, we, we, we tilt him or the disease to the left, so that the right side of the private area from the back is, is cleaned. So you turn him, you move the towels a bit to the other side so that you don't are not able to see the private parts. Now you lift one of the leg here. So you have some clearance. So you reach out under the center to wash the backside of the private part. So we make sure we do that with again throw away as many small clothes we need throw away and the same thing, he will come over this side or if I'm on the side, I make it a point to do it from the backside from this side. So this way, both the front and also once the backside of the private part is cleaned up, I make it a point also make sure that the lower back and other hard areas are also cleaned. So at this point, the first step, after pressing the abdomen, the stinger will be complete. And in addition to that, then before going to the second step, which is the what do we make make it a point, you know, sometimes there are a lot of blood, blood and other fluids coming out of the mouth and nose and stuff like that. So we make it a point to use a cotton swab to just clean up all those nasal so we just take a. So the brother here has a cotton, so he will wet it up with a cotton and just clean up the nose, the left side of nostril the right nostril. Take out any blood or any of those that is there on the on the face, the ears as well and sometimes because of the rigor motives you can't open the mouth wide. So we also make it a point to just a swab use a cotton swab to wipe with the lips as well and the teeth as well. So those are the part of the stinger where the, you know, all the dirt is is cleaned up. So that's number one. Now comes the wood. The second part is the wood. So we so we do so we start with the right we just wash the palms, the right palm three times and the left palm three times. The Farayda Vadoo is done basically the Farayda Vadoo is washing the face three times between ear lobe to ear lobe from the top to the bottom of the beard every nook and corner of the face three times. Then we do the right arm till the. So let's let's go and do it so so we're going to do take water before and if and we want to make sure the water doesn't go into the nostrils into the body. So sometimes we cover the nose with our palm, and then we make sure that, you know, three times the face is washed. So that's the taking care of the Vadoo the face part is the Farayda and then we make sure the killer of the fingers, all the fingers between the fingers are washed three times, all the way to the elbow below the elbow of the right and then we start with the right and then we go to the left so we started the face with the right and then we go to the left side of the. The hand all the way to the elbow three times and the water we use is lukewarm water so it's similar to what we take shower with we feel good about the water. So we make it a point that it is a mixed hot and cold, and so it is good for the so once that is done the muscle muscle of the head is done, so we make sure the muscle of the head is one time is enough for this. So, and some people can also extend it to go all the way to the years, and finally we come to the, to the leg ankle, we, we again kill all of the fingers from the right, the sunna way is from the right side, and you go all the way to the left side. We do the kill all of the fingers, and also wash the ankles three times, and same thing with the right leg and same thing with the left leg, so this basically completes the second part so after istinger, we are then with the with the. The third one is we have to. So now if you want to change before doing the word with this gets dirty we change them now we go to the final giving a bath. What we do is three times water bath. We start before giving a bath we make sure we close the nose and ears, we plug it in with the with the cotton. We also cover the mouth and also the ears, and then we start with the body bath the body but basically is the right side. Body bath three times, and with the hand under the arms, everything, then we turn him around and give a bath on the backside on the right side and then we do the same thing with the left, and we complete the left so this basically and after this we press the abdomen once again. The water is not necessary after that we do that again that completes and the last is with the camphor. We have camphor is some kind of an aromatic stuff that we put in the water and we run run through him three times and that completes the whistle. All that is that completes the whistle and basically what we use is some kind of a camphor here tablets, we just crush them and put in the water it gives that aromatic so this completes the. The washing, and we now drive up. So, so once we drive up, we go to the coffin. So, so is that okay now to go to the coffin part. We got about two or three minutes left I want to give time there's a couple questions that came in but yeah if you want to. So what we're going to do is you know like I said there are three pieces of clothes, there's a big one that's a small one. So, so there are three big, there are going to be three big clothes, not this one. Okay, this is a big one. Okay, so we lay out the bigger cloth. So like I said it's an unstitched piece of cloth three, three big clothes. So we just lay out the top one. And then we, we have the trouser part. Sorry. So you can see the slit here, can you show the slit. So if you see here, basically, there's a slit here. And that's where the head is going to come there's the top part of the, of the, of the, of the shirt, and then you have the, you have the diesel. So I think we're almost done. We'll just place the mannequin here, and we'll just wrap him around. Just put it quickly. We're covering a lot today, by the way, we will be sharing this recording, as well as additional resources we know there's so much to talk about and things to take away from this and so, yes we will gladly send each and every one of you. So once it's dried up, once we are dried up, you know, the center is still covered, you know, so you see here the head, the shirt, the top part of the shirt, we just, you know, the committees that comes on top. And at this point, you know, if there's ether, we put the ether on the body as well. And then we, with the center covered, we can take out the two, the two turquoise and we have changed the turquoise couple of times, and once gets dirty. So we have the subtle still covered. And the next one is the left side of the, these are is quickly. So what we're going to do is just wrap around this, put it on the leg. And then we have the right side, which goes on top. So we have these two together. And then the outermost is the is the biggest one. So beneath this, there are three tie ropes. So basically, we tied the next side, the midsection and the, and the head side. So with this said, you know, we did the thing that I tried to tell the family is what what comes next is the three questions, you know, that that does that is asking in the burial. And that is key. And I tell all the family members to, you know, prepare themselves to be in a position to answer those three questions. The Marrabukha, Madinukha, Manabiyukha, this is the question asked in the burial, in the burial by the Munkara Makir. And so it's very important for us to say because our mouth is not going to speak, it's our conviction on those things that's going to, because the life of the hereafter is from the burial, you know, from the once the person is buried, that's when the life of the hereafter starts. So I think that completes the wrapping and we show the face for the the mehrems and then we tie them. So there's a tie rope at the bottom, we cover the midsection, the leg and the head. So that completes. Yeah. That is tremendous. And again, we will share this recording. It's a lot. It's a lot to process. And the good thing is, these aren't things that will have to do by ourselves as they're volunteers and massages and funeral homes and other places. That will walk people through it. I want to get to a couple of questions and one for you about the other month is the, we were talking about who can be in the room. What about in a in a mahrum and a non mahrum case so if there is a female body on the table, and let's say it's my sister-in-law on the table as a technically a non mahrum to that person can I look at the person's face. Who's allowed to see the face of the people that are deceased on the table. Yeah, after the Strouding right after the Strouding, you know the mehrems are generally the mehrems are allowed to see, but it's a decision of the family you know if you ask a scholar. I don't want to say it's not allowed for non mahrum to see, you know, but but ultimately it's the family's call there, you know, some some are there to, you know, get their video started to share with someone out in a different part of the world and stuff like that so we tell them, we tell them after this is to you know, it's safe not to, you know, so to go mahrum, you know, it's because it's it's about the individual passed away. He wants to make a safe transition into the cover into the hereafter because he's waiting to, you know, go through the bliss, the bliss of the of the, you know, grave, and you know all those things and he doesn't want something like this to not not happen, but the call is ultimately the families, you know. A lot of questions coming in I want to be mindful of time again we thank you all so much for taking the time on a beautiful Saturday afternoon to have this very, very important conversation so definitely give yourself the space in the and the credit for for doing that a great question that came in from our listening to Dr. Rami's presentation earlier on the sonic perspective on death and dying seems to fit very well with the hospice philosophy of end of life care however there's a lot of families for whatever reason may not have the same embracing of it, they may have misconceptions. How do you Dr. Rami how do you think the hospice philosophy of end of life care fits with the Islamic perspective of dying. Yeah, I think you don't have to turn any further than the sunnah. The Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam was the best example on how to live. And that includes to the very last moment that he was on this earth. If you looked at the last 14 days, roughly, of his life and how he was dealing with illness, I think you can learn all that you need to know about what would be important for us as Muslims at the end of life I think he provided us the perfect and hospice just to introduce it to people who don't know is a approach to care it's not an actual place most hospice is actually provided at home at a person's own home, where everything is geared towards comfort so people on hospice don't have don't want to see the inside of a hospital again keep me as comfortable as possible for whatever time I'd be left. And I would say from an Islamic standpoint, if there were any more honorable way to die, then at home, and in the arms of your loved one, then the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam would have died that way. He died in on his wife's bosom on I shall be low on her speaking with her seeing his family members and community members in and out. And that was important in the last days of his life, and we should do our best to emulate it now. It's a packed question because a lot goes into making the transition to hospice from a medical standpoint, I think it's the onus is on doctors to have good communication about health status prognosis treatment options etc. And also to have families to figure out what's important for a person. You know at the end of life, but I do think that Islam and the hospice philosophy, go ahead and hand I may be biased because I'm in this field but yeah. Yeah, and again more reason to have these conversations when people have been healthy and ask what their preferences, and there's actually great resources out there I do want to shout out. Let me see if I can bring them up real quick. Let me just load this up. I know we're tight on time. The website sharia with calm. They help you put together legally certified site, legally certifiable Islamic wills in all 50 states for 100 bucks. 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Do intubate me if something like this happens or do intubate me or do this or that or I want these people in the room during a janitor you can spell that all out in a will so that your family and your future your future loved ones don't have to fight and argue over this and so definitely recommend no matter what your age is start thinking about these things and document those because these can be very very emotional and explosive things and it's important to address that. But there's a question that came in. You had mentioned that there is baraka and keeping the body washing private not to talk about what you see in the room and actually in our film. We if you for those have seen the documentary we actually even though we have consent to the families. We don't show faces we don't show any kind of marks that reveal who that person is to respect the people's privacy and family. What are your thoughts on, let's say a family member can't make it or a family member overseas. If somebody face times them or puts the body washing on zoom. Is that okay. What are your I'm sure that's come up before somebody wants to show loved ones. What do you recommend in a situation like that. You're on mute brother. Yeah, yeah. So, so, so I have seen, I mean, most of the families don't encourage, but I have seen instances where one of the brother or the son is in UK. And so there was a face time that was going on with during the goosal. So, except for the immediate family members who are away and it is son of the, you know, a son was away from home. I've seen otherwise in most of the cases, you know, we don't encourage face time or anything within, you know, external set of people, but most of the families, it's just the immediate families, their son, the father, the brother or the immediate family members are have need to participate and they are more than happy to not share with anyone. But I have seen instances where, you know, for the, you know, other son or the brother couldn't make it, you know, a face time was allowed, or, you know, it's again the family thing, you know, we tell them it's it's the family was going to make the call there. You know.