 Hello everybody if it's Saturday then we're doing a reaction show and this is a very unusual one as there's a few more people in the room with me Indeed so joining us as always Is is Tom what's up Tom and when Tom talks, please tell me if there's an echo Hello friends Hopefully there's no echo there We'll find out in just a moment, but also joining us as we're in the middle of Vinnie Kahn 2021 Sam Miniac John hiding over here in his Jedi robe for some reason And we're gonna talk about this preview show All right. This is this is a good one. Let's let's start at the beginning before we go to Tom from the room here Gentlemen Sam, what was your thoughts high-level views? Did you like it? What'd you think? I? liked it, of course seeing cursed city was was amazing Lumineth, I don't know. I'm really happy for the few people that play Lumineth, right? Either way, we have cool models to paint whether we collect an army or not Yeah, that cursed city was amazing. I was hoping for more vampire stuff Super happy about the orcs as well, so Hmm nice. All right maniac. I think Yeah, I was looking for more of a wow Ending to the cursed city box that go with a really sick vampire, but they went in kind of like more of a Mongol route I don't really like Lumineth from boys, but they were a few of the new ones I actually really would paint never really cool again. Yeah, that's our member. Okay, John We need that cursed city box face That's exactly right. All right Tommy, what was your thoughts? There's very few times in which I would gladly celebrate being wrong And on the show on Wednesday, one of the things that I predicted was disappointment and here And There was no disappointment in that in that stream just and done It was top-to-bottom just hot like it was Yep That's where I'm at Yes, indeed we're gonna break into it. Okay, so Somebody said there was like a little slight echo. I'll keep playing with it. See if we get somewhere, right? We'll try not to talk over each other and that should cut out any echo Dealing with I didn't have the room set up to be an auditorium broadcasting. So we're making do but it's all right Don't worry. We'll get there Let's let's get into this gentleman. Shall we okay, so Start off, of course with the new Lumineth. So new sword masters We're just gonna scroll through these bad boys with their big ridiculous helmets Uh Though not not completely absurd Don't have bullhorn like weapon catchers on top of their their helmets the back banners rule Yes, these are it. I think they look good for their an upgraded sword master. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah Elves have always had big helmets. Yeah, that's fine. There's no weapon catcher. Cool. That doesn't make it. Okay, Sam We get a change all of opinions and some some of us are wrong Here's a question did any did anything you see here make you think oh, well, I know how to get a Lumineth army from this You know second Lumineth reveal. Yeah, I say yeah for me. I was thinking about Tom Because there's things that you like and things you don't like in this army Obviously in this this troop type being a more standard upgraded like homage to the past Yes, I would land with with Tom. All right, Tom. What is your like? Give us the hot take What did you think of all the new elves now? We've seen him from cloud rider to sword master to flying fox spirit? Like what's your what's your what's your current take? I hate the heads Let me open with that like just almost uniformly across the board. I've not seen a single helmet that I like That said I Know how to do head swaps like like when when you look at the like the the great sword elves I begin I'm thinking about something like the you're gonna need to meet yourself because I can hear myself okay so I think of something like the The Wildwood Ranger like I'm thinking about the hooded helms on those great swords Like there's gas in a model like that And so when I look at it actually I like most of what we have in the new line like in what in looking across The high elves I could do an army of these guys Awesome, so that's good. I mean yeah to me the standouts. Let's go through the rest of it I think the sword masters look dope. I really do. Oh, and let me just say stop The twins are just can I use can I use our PG-13? Our one word the twins are amazing. Let me just That's like the twins. Oh Yeah, anyways continue That's fine We've got our new big bolt thrower fine. I've never been excited about a bolt thrower in my life I'm not gonna be excited about a bullet thrower now You get a couple elf teeth with every bolt delivery. Well what you didn't know I like the helmets and the like kind of sloping Yeah, it's nice. They're gonna look good. It's fine. Yeah, they're blow guns. Those are actually just big blow guns All right, yeah, I mean like I don't think a bolt thrower has ever been something that I'm like Oh, this is the reason I want to buy the army cool boat for a bolt thrower, bro Yeah, no, all right this I did not see coming no one I didn't like it was there hidden in a bunch of the silhouettes But we all just thought it was like generic terrain, right when we look at that at that previous preview This is a big ridiculous insane scenery terrain piece. So I've talked before about terrain pieces. I generally hate them My wife told you Scotland This scenery is Ridiculous all right what from the room Thoughts on the Elvis scenery that you'll now undoubtedly need to include your army for zero points It'll be like the Shrine of Hayish something Will it be prone to tipping I See it has this little back piece that's on the ground here. So it's got this like triangle. It's resting on I I see that Yes, it could There's an obvious easy solution to that it's pretty pretty remarkable While we John if you played this in an army Would you forget this as well as you have your bone tight nexus every single time I've played Warhammer with you every single time Correct, okay. It will stay in my case forever. Good. Good. Yes useless terrain piece that bow tie Nexus you have one of the most powerful trade piece in the game. Nothing never brought it All right, Tommy. What about you? What do you think about this big giant terrain thing? I love the footprint It has a tiny footprint Like so one of the my big critiques with all of these terrain pieces is that like they When you measure six inches from when placing it like to objectives, it's a really big issue But one of the fascinating things about this one is that it actually has a really small footprint And so I think it'll be a lot easier to place on the table I think from an aesthetic standpoint, I just love it. I love everything about what's going on here Technically, it looks like a flying earth moat. So like of all the terrain pieces This is one that can show up on any battlefield The lumineff just like float it in or portal it in so like I just This is just like win all the way down I like I like seeing more of the world as well Yeah in 40k. We had a lot of the same type of architecture And it's easy to imagine this just sitting at ground level and and being a normal piece of scenery that Everyone can have fun with yeah Yeah, there's I have a question go go all right So if I'm a lumineff player and I'm not I'm not bringing any of the flying units And my opponent has a flying sorcerer Yes, and puts that person on top of that thing and just cast bells to be like What's up? I I think that's why so many of their wizards fly because they have to get up into their flying wizard towers rides Like if their foot wizards are like, oh man We're supposed to do this That earth mage is never moving like he's gonna be like playing up there and be like i'm cool I I can't get down from here if I wanted to Think get ready to assault the tower men Yeah, I think though the the regular lumineff wizard you can't fly just carry ladders to battle with them Get out you're like gotta jump upstream. Yeah, it's like they're like salmon trying to spawn These elements are four. Yeah You know like here's what I'll say about this one. I I'm generally suspect of terrain pieces But two things I actually enjoy about this one one I do think it's actually a legitimately cool piece of terrain that would just be neat to buy for your table Right like just to have like it looked cool on your table. It would feel very mortal realm Z would feel very magical to It's the only piece of terrain that you can be under. I like cool pieces of terrain that you can walk under like The kill team terrain. Yeah. Yeah exactly like stuff that you can be going underneath, right? That has like verticality to it where you can not just you're not just literally going over top of the thing as an inconvenience every time Right, like if that thing's set up on the table somewhere It's cool because just foot troops can just they'll run underneath it But like air troops could land on top of it. Like that's just that's cool That's kind of multi-dimensions to it So, yeah, I dig that all right, uh So, uh, this is we saw this guy before the special. This is the special character version of the lord regent He is was said as to be terrians uh Like left-hand man his left-handed Uh, and since I gotta stop you go, um Ben Bar Barrett wins the comments where he said that the helmets make ladders when they stand on each other's shoulders and so Yes, exactly. Yeah, that's why they that's why the sword masters have those little hooks on the side Those are so other sword masters. They're not their feet on top They're not weapon catchers. They're foot catchers. Yes, exactly. Yeah, there you go. Okay Barrel the monkeys. Yeah Yes, exactly. Yeah, you try you got to hook your monkeys Uh, I mean we talked about this dude in detail. He's super dope. Tom and I both gave our thoughts on this guy What do you guys think about this dude? I would love to paint that. Yeah, it's like a lot of fun Yeah, cavalry rules the silhouette is amazing. It has such good flow and Very epic pose very heroic Yeah, this like open pose with the spear up and the the shield kind of out, right? Yeah Yeah Yeah, dude, sweet. Okay, cool. You know more new people. Oh, sorry. I'll flip through the rest of you people Go twin Tom talk about the twins Well, hold on as an aside I want to say I actually don't hate the his helmet Like that dude's helmet is the one helmet that I don't hate Out of all the new models. Okay, let's talk about the twins. Uh, Amazing, I love that they like so this idea of twins You know dates back obviously to old warhammer with two of the central characters being Tyrion and teclis But kind of like this the historic twins And so what's so fascinating to me is that I love that they brought that forward into a new set of named characters I love that it's a male and a female and I mean like I love the sun and the moon everything that's going on here conceptually like it's just a win I I wish that she wasn't in like a track suit. Um, but but I'm like, I'm not going to complain about it. Like I just I love it's dynamic It reminds me of the twins on the old wood elf dragon um, and Like I love how they're leaning into the sun and moon aspect when it was only moon stuff. I was like But I love now what we're seeing is we're seeing kind of the middle of the road of the army So before we saw like the the far left of teclis And then we were seeing kind of the middle road And I'm hoping that like as we move towards the sun stuff and towards tyrion's army like I'm getting more excited Good. Yeah, I agree. So just for everybody like everybody can see the sun icon around his head and then the moon icon around hers She does look like a cosmonaut wearing a space suit Uh, but you know, yeah, it's good. I'm into that. Yeah I kind of wish she had a little cloak Right, like if she had like a small maybe like a like a half cloak coming back flowing This direction then there'd be this really nice cross lines On them. Yeah. Yeah There's your video making a cloak. There you go. There you go. Yeah, I think it's very easy to add cased models Sure, or or even just like pulled like if you pulled archie on's cloak Like I think archie on's cloak might look actually really good on her now that I think about it Yeah, the big swoop The big swoop. Yep All right, hold on. Hold on. I have a question. Yeah, go go. This reminds me so much of the slanash to Like characters we saw still ask you. Yeah, like it's almost Like a reference to it. And so I I'm asking myself the question. Why do these guys need to be on the same base? Like I think the story could still function perfectly If they were on separate bases and they would look so much cooler I think the dynamism of it. I guess because she's clearly not like writing with with still ask Like still rides around on eski all the time. Eski has a like a literally a thing he wears so she can Grip on it with her feet. Yeah, that's like a thing It's like they're like they're making this like a thing in armies now like where someone is balancing on top of someone else Right, whereas here it feels like we caught the moment midstream like she's leaping over him She's not like attached him in a permanent way. She's literally just bouncing her toe off of his right sun helm thing, right? Yes, so I think with that it was more like Celescar this duality they're meant to be together all the time. They only live and work and are symbiotic Here I think it's like they wanted to capture a cool second in the battle So rather than do two characters separately that could walk around and you know, whatever whatever and then they get separated from each other They wanted to really enforce that like no no these two work as a pair So let's capture that cool moment where she's vaulting over him or something, right? I think if you could do justice to the model made it seem like in the rules They fight and die together and I think you've done a better service to both models. Sure That's my opinion Yeah, I've always been a fan of people writing on other people or other things Like being old being an old school thank-well and bone ripper fan like generally if you can write a thing or surf a thing You should that's my belief. That's what makes fantasy cool is writing and surfing other things So I'm I'm down to put that to the test That said like you are a Exacto blade Like cut away From having a really sort like sweet foot hero Right like he like if you literally just like Like sliced right beneath her foot He would look amazing right just as a as a like a sweet ass samurai. So Yes, he separated probably a separate sprue. I bet you blew the foot onto the sun I I you know what? I I but you don't I bet the connection point is her foot Is attached to that to this Thing Okay, either the little rays or the rays and the circle thing and you slot that down onto him I hope it's the right side of the foot and then the left side Malifaux style Yeah, her toe is a separate piece. Yeah exactly. Yes, and then the buckle is three pieces These tassels are three separate pieces somehow. Yeah, the nose comes off church standard stuff standard stuff All right, let's keep going through these guys Uh, the new lore master. It's exactly what we said it would be in the original show when we saw the silhouette We said it'd be an updated lore master of uh of hoeth and that's what it is because it's like the sword and spell thing It's the leader of the sword masters Thumbs up. I I assume tom this guy is pretty in your wheelhouse because this guy Literally just looks like an older elf hero basically Yeah, except for you know the whole head thing Like I mean honestly like the head the heads are like to me just it's just disappointing Right, like it's just like I don't know how else to say it. I just You've done it all tom is not a fan of tom is not a fan of heads. That's what we're hearing here these heads Like it's just but I love the tassel. So like for him I would probably snip off like the baroque framing like the um, you know what those look like I know what they are They're the little they're the little uh 90 degree joints that you put under shelves that you hang on the wall Like that's what's attached to the side of his head Uh, I was thinking of like a little weather rooster weather vane that you see like the the sort of like farm of kutramon like the rustic Love that you see like engage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly Uh, I mean that's that's legitimate. Um Yeah, so I just if that was gone like I would love him Well, and like we said easy change. All right, uh, but this dude's sweet Uh, wizard. I like this. I like harry potter here. He's painting with all the colors of the world Uh, this is cool I love the paper balanced on the end of his wand paintbrush like that's super cool His staff is actually really unique and interesting like the stick that goes up and it's holding The lantern, but it still has this like very vertical thing. It's not it's not a normal thing We're gonna be out of the lantern in front of it, right? Um, I think this guy actually looks really sweet. I like the helm on this dude because like you said Sam when we were watching it looks very nice mage cap. Yeah like a pointy wizard hat Very cool. That that lantern offers a lot of potential Yeah as well like 100 want to make this strictly an osl piece. You could have fireflies floating around inside of it Yes I'd be so good little yeah a little lot dots of light a little firefly thing. Yeah little silhouettes Butterflies And you know, I've heard a lot of people like the the comments in the in the twitch stream just exploded on this guy Because of his shoes like because he's walking on the little still shoes or whatever It's a no from me dog and I'm like this fine like yeah, they're weird Okay, but like you want to talk about literally the easiest thing in the history of the world to change Right like yes, that looks like a sprue hanging on we flip those all the time That's just part of how we put models together like if you hate the feet you just go and then okay put them on his flat feet I say fill it in Liquid green stuff just huge heels nice platform Stacker yeah good good We go we go farther. We make a little mold fill it with realistic water. We put goldfish in the shoes Yes, now now we've got some style Uh, yeah, I dig I like I love the the He's supposed to be like they said in the story He's literally supposed to be like painting with realm stuff and it empowers the spells I want to see more things precariously balanced like this. I love stuff like that I love floating things in miniatures So I want to see them play with you know that sort of perspective and how you can make things appear to float more Yeah, it's it's great negative space work. Yes, absolutely Tom, what's the about this one? Uh, I'm not going to complain about easily changeable things What I'll say is Um, I like her I do like I think that she's a really interesting Like I think that she's a really interesting great foot mage Yep, uh, doesn't look like it can fly. So I hope those little points are very springy so she can jump up onto the terrain It's the uh, the basketball jump higher training shoes. Yes. Yeah, you can vault up onto that terrain piece The floor is gonna have no floor is lava shoes Yes, no problem getting up on a train piece our monkey king even has that helmet. Yes. Yes That has the like his helmet looks like the monkey king face. He has a staff too. Yeah staff. Yeah This is terrible. This big heavy staff I don't like this one. Not a fan of this one. Okay, so the flight stands some people Like those some don't but having a tree on the base and then a flight stand as well Just to show you a cruel mockery of what could have been but instead what you are what you deserve like Yeah, and the flying it's got a tail on it too solid cloud matter I think the right thing to do here Is you don't use the flight stand and you just pin the cloud tail Into the tree and you reverse the base or something. Yeah. Yeah, or just move the tree further back Yeah, sure because I'm sure that little piece can go anywhere, right? So but yeah, like I think you're right Turn the tree around so it's kind of you know, like it's facing back Toward the back of the base and then you pin the the little cloud directly into it Then it just kind of looks like he's soaring up in the air. Yeah. Yeah cruel mockery. Is this face kind of like A monkey am I crazy or is it a normal owl? Yeah, I think they over it. It looks honestly like the painters over accentuated this part, right? There's a bunch of extra shading right here to like bring the lips and the jaw out super highly cheekbones Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then they brought the the helm way up to here, right? Like they definitely were looking at monkey king art when they painted and sculpted this guy like 100% The chin is really pointy too. Like when you zoom in on the model like the chin is super pointy Like abnormally so and I think that that that's pulling that's elongating the face and creating some of that effect of the lighting um It's fascinating to me like let's not even talking about the flight stand like You just make them fly with magnets like we have that technology now, right? Like what why don't we just do that now folks like it just dawned on me Tom no one knows how magnets work. So that's that's that's impossible. All right uh An army standard bearer not a thing we see very often anymore, but as lumineath Uh, you know Our have a lot of classic elements to them. We get this big ridiculous pre sculpted banner Uh, my answer would be pull that out of there cut that out put in a piece of plastic card and paint something on there But for those who don't want to go to that trouble. Yeah, sure like I have no issue with this that standard is beyond huge I think in our chat you said this looks like a vent sized banner It does it does like you literally, uh, okay gentlemen when you get done with this show go over to vince's case of storm cast Like britannian Storm cast and look at the banner and tell me i'm wrong. He literally has a model that has a banner that size I don't see a problem. I don't see a problem. We lost john by the way. We lost our jenny He was like i'm gonna step out for a minute and then he died So we'll have to check on him. He's probably lost in the wilderness now Uh, I actually like the standard bear like I like it's par for the course I mean if they have big hats, they got to have big standards Yeah, this guy's cool. Yeah. Yeah, I just like the The old role to be he had a lot of musicians and standard bearers in every unit And I I like that kind of military procession just adds a lot more flavor and interest to the battlefield So Yeah, the battle standard bear. Very cool. Yeah, I'll say like I didn't mind as much I don't mind as much like we still get units with musicians and standards in them sometimes like it Not every unit has them now, but we still get a lot with them But the the one piece I did miss I loved the look of the army standard bear Like if an individual unit has a standard or not, I don't really care Like whatever you can have some flags dangling off them or you know crap like that. It kind of gets a lot But the battle standard bear like the singular fig that that was you usually got to do something really cool on that guy And have it like really represent your army and that's something that's kind of been Missing right of having a hero who's literally just walking around with a big stick And like giving you a chance to to just like say to show something about your army to do a cool piece of freehander or whatever If I can remember correctly a bsb lets you reroll leadership checks, right? I think that's right. You put on a stubborn unit and never just modify leadership and the rerolling like yeah There's they're sticking around. Yeah, sure until until the one time they didn't and then you lose a game You haven't rolled a 10 plus twice in a row looking forward to your reveal of sixth edition war hammer Six, we're gonna we're gonna have scott review fifth. We're catching up. Did you did you talk about that the factor? That's probably all sculpted on there. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, absolutely I said cut it out put in a piece of plastic card done. All right good Uh fox writer we already saw a fox catcher previously tom and I talked a lot about about our kitsune wind spirit here All right gentlemen This is the full-fledged invasion of the anime fox spirit into war hammer your reactions sam I don't like the spiral Same reason. I don't like the lord celestine. My cape is turning in and out of things and making a universe It's going from dirt to air to fox material laying cloth Yeah, scott go on any of those things. Yeah I agree. I like foxes. I like archery Okay, all right. Well, you got two things there. Yeah Scott I am not a fan of anamorphic designs. Okay, so this is a hard pass for me Animal people in general not a win for you. That's what you're saying. Okay. Got it. John. What about you? I don't even know what the fox thing is It could literally be any model because my eye doesn't go there. My guy goes to this big stupid v To the sculpted wind. Yes. Yeah, I sculpt with the winds not of the wind or something like that I'm completely with you. The problem with this model is the giant whirlwind Like I actually think if they just had restrained themselves and cut this like here here and here So he just had like flowy swoopy things coming down, right? The tail the tail is huge. You can just be curling up on the tail Yeah So like if he had some little flowy flaps coming off of him and then his big long tail And he was just like and again put him up on Toe in on a column or a big rock or something like that where he's jumping up in the air And he has that look of leaping. I'd be like, yes way more about this guy I agree with you completely. The cell is in prime. I had the same problem. I don't like his swirling Hurricane of space junk around him, right? Like it's yeah trash tornado It's trash tornado. Yes, exactly. Are we sculpting stars with comet tails on them and like yeah Yeah, so at any rate. Yeah, he's fine. Good nonversion of that and then we're back to that dude. All right So here we go. Let's talk about this Okay. So previously On on preview shows We were told that Uh, all the new stuff would be coming in broke around checklist Uh, that was not a lie. It's true Um, so this is but what this is the first time they've ever done anything this like this Like boy, oh boy is the book department looking to sell books Because so now if you're getting luminous if you're just getting into luminous if this Is the time when you're like, yes the elves are what I want Okay, then you buy this book and when you buy the broken realms techless, which you'll also of course buy You're going to get a bunch of extra duplicate war scrolls, but that's fine You get like four fifths of the book will be for you then If you already have the first luminous book, then you don't need to buy this You can just buy broken realms techless and that will have all the new scrolls and rules in it Okay So the same rules for all this new stuff are going to show up in a new battle tome this one That also contains all the original rules and units And so like that battle tome is Technically still valid because you can either use that plus broken realms or this and they're the same thing This is a weird move Uh, yeah, tom you went and got something so I assume you have a point you want to make that you've been sitting on I love it. I love it so much. Tom. I love it so much Thank you All right. Well, why did I get the stupid book? Yeah, I mean, well you can still use that plus the broken realms techless and you were gonna buy broken realms techless anyways so Yeah, but I got the stupid cow one like I don't want the cow one. I want the sword master Yeah, you could have had the limited edition cover with that Imagine how that sword master looks in foiley limited edition. He probably no, no, you're not gonna fool me I know So you got to remember If you all rewind like two years ago, I bought the storm cast Like I had bought in or three years ago the blue storm cast limited edition book And then like a year and a half later they released another one with the second edition aos Storm cast and I said this is it. I'm done buying limited edition books Because they get read Just to hold on real quick or just to clarify He said that at a point in time that was before he purchased the limited edition book He just held up just so we all understand the timeline. Okay. Yes. Yes. And then I got this They've replaced it in less than a year I give up Like I you know, it's so funny I put an order in and I was going to get the limited edition daughter's a cane book because I was like, oh It's really nice and I love the dock and all that. I'm glad I didn't now Because you know what they're a trap Don't buy them I'll I I did buy the limited edition sladesh one because it's excessive. Anyways, um All right, so yeah fine weird. I don't know what else to say like Okay I don't get why we just I mean like I guess because They put themselves into the situation I understand that the conundrum they're in here because if you just put the rooms in broken realm techless Right, the problem is imagine you're a new person you walk and you want to start this army It's weird for the store manager to go. Okay. You need this older book from a year ago That's half your army and then you also need to buy this book two in a five part narrative book arc And that has the rest of your army in it Like that would be a weird sale and wouldn't really make sense to anybody So like yes, you want to have a singular source of truth, right? But so fine I get that the problem is they put themselves in this position By splitting this army up and releasing it 11 months apart from each other probably would have been a lot closer by the buy Because if if covid hadn't happened and these two had come out then you would have had lumeneth They were both supposed to be out last year. You would have had like Eight months in between the two books That would have been the real timeline had we not lived in cobin Okay, that's crazy Uh to push it like that Uh, that just feels like Not great I guess is what I would say Not great That would be my summation Yeah, maybe just like release a whole army That's we could do that That would be good So especially when they were sitting on the better half of the army Right, right You don't lead with weakness Yeah, exactly like you you you literally kept the the like you had a pocket ace here and you just nothing nothing so Okay. All right, that's all lumeneth. Let's get into it. This whole show isn't about lumeneth. Okay But let me just say overall I like the models I do and this could lead to me actually owning a lumeneth army. That's what i'll say Which is exciting if we get more tyrannic and that models I agree with you as we get more tyrannic the models get cooler Like we're gonna we're on an upswing as soon as those angel elves show up with their six wings full of eyes and fire And everything then yeah, i'm in i'm in hardcore Uh unexpected night haunt this ghost. He was waiting in the in the spectral realm for a long time and then boom ghost uh All right death people That's these two. That's these two right here. All right death folks Scott, what do you think about this one? I really like how his left hand is just melting into the smoke You can't even see the fingers anymore right and his name was like a something like cruciatus or something like that Or I don't know what it was cruel gassed cruciator cruciator. He's kind of like I don't know He's on a torture rack himself. Yes. It's cool to see a warhammer torture rack Yeah, man Like this is so cool with all the implements hanging off the back Like they kind of cut it off in this picture, which is stupid, but you can see it in the video that crusher But yeah crushing device there Yeah Like this dude's sweet John Yeah, well, I just I realized that that's our uh Our his hand is one of our unsolved mysteries. Yes And we were often looking at that towards something from sold like grave lords or something But it obviously looked more like night haunts Um from before so this solves that mystery. I mean It's great, but it doesn't solve our problems at night. Huh? This is where my brain goes So this one model is gonna This is it. This is tying it all together. Look six these six wounds are gonna get it done Look hold on realistically if he was like actually a semi durable seven wound or eight wound hero Like he could legitimately fix the army because that's kind of what they need Is just like a seven or eight wound reasonably durable hero If he had say like a four up ethereal And then maybe like a five up or a four up feel no pain It'd be like this guy would suddenly become everybody's general and every night on army because he would be the toughest thing around Uh, yeah, I don't know. He's still playing hero. Yeah, sure. He'd still You would yeah. Yes. He would still play dreadblade. Uh, but here's the deal I love this guy and actually I love what he represents more than anything else No, he doesn't fix the army But maybe we have another battle tone They're bringing at some point. Yeah, right like they are thinking about night haunt As an as what it needs, right? Like because he has been created. He has been sculpted. So I I'm hoping Maybe we get a book So I think he's part of so like, okay, this is a cruel gas crusher once mortals these yeah, there you go Your night hot limited edition boy. I'll tell you what this Tom he only rolls with the luxury models only only the finest of bad books. Uh, all right, so um Once mortals these fantastical beings meant to groove some end through the foulest torture imaginable All right, funny. Okay fine And they they they were like, oh, how ironic that he was a torture and negash is now torturing him. I'm like, that's Not ironic. That's just so dumb and on the nose. Right that we need to really just visualize Look negash understands irony like a lannis morissette understands irony. They have exactly the same take on irony Okay, it's it's same stuff Uh To meet the night haunt challenges new storm cast hero. This was called out by martin orlando I just want to say within 60 seconds of this pit of this image going live martin had posted the actual picture Of gartis like up here from the novel cover or whatever like oh, it's this guy It's gartis and sure enough it is gartis steel soul, which is great Uh, this dude is awesome. I think that these are just going to be two special models this year, tom I appreciate your hope for a night haunt book But I assume these two just release as like here's two special models. We're doing this year for something Because it's the them to to face each other Can I jump in real quick? Yes, I hear that. I actually think that these are probably tied in with broken realms That would be my guess is that these are actually aspects of something that's going on in broken realms I just am still hopeful that night haunt will get touched In the in the broken realms. We know they're not in book two Right, that's exactly right With gartis what I'll say is this I think that this is a much more like a deeper sea change than I think What people are realizing Because we have a named Hollow knights character now We've never seen we've never had a named character. That's not been hammers a sigma So this is like this is a really big deal No matter how you cut it And the reality is is we'll get to this later, but we also saw a glimpse of bellicor I think that he is like like he is another symptom of what's going on here, right of Us getting a bunch of heroes mattered across just like the white king To these other like secondary factions that need just a little bit of beefing up So, uh, and I and I love that like to jump back to the storm cast. I love that this is We're getting to see some of the other chambers fleshed out And so there's a lot of hope here No, I agree. Gartis is a sweet character comes from a cool book This model is freaking amazing It shows off how bad gw metallics are please change your metals gw just if this guy was painted with like bellejo metal color He looks so much better Uh, and like it's just I'm never gonna let this die and um But this dude isn't like this is incredible. I agree You're probably right. That's probably tied into the broken realm stuff I agree with that in the same way that they did a lot of heroes for 40k tied into like their psychic awakening, right? All right from the room here gentlemen, what do we think of gartis? What do you like this guy? I like the tassels the momentum coming down Because it's storm cast eternal and you think of lightning. I was thinking of Thor like cracking down and bust people up He has literally been sent down on a shock bolt of lightning. Yeah Yeah, he's that that like impact you can see where the stone is actually broken Yeah, I like it. I want to see some some rules for all these single storm cast characters that are floating around these anniversary models and stuff Yeah, I have a storm cast army You just got beat me yesterday You did a blood Yeah, I like the uh I can want to do the lions for the torso armor for storm cast I like it comes up in this big like hood thing around him. Yes And I like the two-tone metallics the gold and the silver. I think that looks really nice Yeah, hollow knights is a great paint scheme of like the silver and gold in this way and I agree with you They I wish they did more of the lion chest. I hadn't thought about that until you said it There's only a couple models. They did it on and man, it looks so good, right? Yeah, yeah, it's the well your lord cellist since that's who has that um So what I would also say is that I feel like there's a missed opportunity here I know like and I don't want to just be negative, but I want to talk about the opportunities like aesthetically That they had here. I know they were mimicking the art But it really feels like the weapons should have been swapped Like with with him coming down in like the like the pave stones cracking that should have been the hammer And the sword should be up um, and so I have this weird like like This communicates something differently than if the weapons had been swapped, which is not a problem I agree. This looks like he's coming down in light with lightning But then I don't know understand why those pave stones are cracking under the weapon and not under him as a whole Um, and so it was just a weird kind of disjunction that like I saw and I had to stop myself and ask like why What is off about this and I think that that was what struck me about the composition of the model itself That's a fair point. I am definitely going to make lightning popping off this guy Like it's really easy to add lightning to models. Okay Uh, yeah, like you can all you do is you take very thin Paper clips and then you like bend and bend and bend you just do a bunch of bends and then you glue them together I have a video on it On how to make lightning and because when I did my when I did the satan I actually added more lightning to the lightning he's on so he's just like lightning and lightning But like if this dude had like a shock wave of lightning around him hitting toward the edge of his base like a terminator Warping back in time, you know, like Crackling out from him. I think that would look sweet. So yeah Lightning uh eyeliner shooting out the sides of his this. Yeah. Yeah that like Different real question. Um Is there a Translation of the sigmarite runes anywhere. Do we know what any of this stuff says yet? Because scott pointed out No, I was I was going to give it to you buddy, but I I want to know what all this says So I can also scribe my own sayings in the sigmarite Maybe it's how they maybe it's how they they uh, they communicate universally Yeah The runes like change to bit like when they talk the runes change into the language Wherever they're talking to on their little their little thing that way they can show up to any people's and talk to them Right. So they have like their magic toilet paper as a universal translator. That's why they all have it Yeah, but it Upsolved it oof. It does look like oof like he landed already. He's like, oh Getting up in the years. How uh, yeah, okay Uh, all right And I do think it's broken realms because it says we'll have more in broken realms narrative as it unfolds So you're I think you're absolutely right there tom. They're gonna drop all those and Okay, let's get to the most cool and yet Disappointing moment of the whole show Somehow you see the worst double-edged sword we got one We were expecting To see the soul blight grave lords. This was called lords of the mortal realm. They did give us a lord Who they confirmed on the stream is part of the soul blight grave lords army. They did say that directly Adam said that out. This is the part of the soul blight grave lords and This this is a lord He is that is his name and he's not a blood knight. Yes And he is not a blood knight. Yes. Thank you scott because the whole time I was like, see you're gonna They're gonna show your blood knights finally and he's like he's like they're not they're not gonna show me blood Dice they're not gonna do it. You were you were dead set and um You were right. I just converted 10. Okay. You can't make a new kid right away. Okay. It's gotta let it let it lie Please I stand down the fact blood knights are coming. You're getting it But let's talk about this bony boy here. All right before before we get into Hold on a second tom because again, we have two death aficionados here in the room No, please john. I'm going to you first. Sure white king. You like bony boys. What do you think about this? Yeah, um immediately when we saw it, I was like Crap this the more that stuff we're learning about soul black rave lords the less vampirey it is And it's like this is legions in the grand house in the gash 2.0 Like we're just getting freaking everything Which maybe it's more like her city which we'll find out this is just a little bit everything But run by vampires which I'm all I'm all for This guy was always a was always a pickable unit. This is the thing that kind of bugs me He's was a pickable unit in the game. They just didn't have an up-to-date model for him And so I just hope they use this as a a good opportunity to make this thing good Yeah, let me say one thing to what john just said there. I totally yes agreed So a lot of times When when we came over to aos there was a lot of times where you know There was a bunch of old historical models many which they didn't make But they let you take like chaos sorcerer lord or chaos like on foot or chaos sorcerer lord on mount or whatever Right. And so when the when they officially moved into the tome a lot of what they did was jettison the options That weren't currently available in models, right? So like the chaos sorcerer lord became one guy He's the little dude on foot. You can't have him on a horse anymore. That's gone, right? But um Because you had to have either had the very old model or converted one The white king has been the same way He's been this holdover that they never got rid of he can still be on the horse Right and they made a model for him Which is the way better option because they could have just jettisoned the option Most other times they've done this. They've just said uh the horsey option. That's gone now You've got to just be a dude on foot. So thank you for actually sculpting the option So i'm down with that scott your take on on uh on this captain of the dead The shield is super old school warp vampire accounts the design the skull those look like super realistic Stick with maybe a little bit more cartoony That helmet i am definitely gonna buy this model carve that helmet out and put a vampire head in that thing Instagram vampire that is a that is a blood knight helmet waiting to happen Oh next conversion. Yeah my five of those five more blood next buddy Well, you gotta do a five five forty dollar characters. No problem Head swap sculpted gloves. You've got a vampire lord on a on a mouth. Yep. Yeah Yeah, I don't even need to sculpt the gloves. You could probably just use a little bit of putty Or or like a little bit of varnish or something and like cover over the the deeper joints So, you know, I'm saying like cracks in the boat and then it'll just look like like skin or whatever That's a great point actually. Yeah, I mean price wise. You're not that far off original blood knights, right? Um No, it's interesting. I I love this guy, right? Um what it was what was so fascinating to me was that we ended up with basically confirmation that Soul Blight is truly like castlevania of the army Right, like this is this is one of your sub bosses as you're going through the castle Like out in your you're out in the courtyard, right? And this guy this guy trots in with with his skeleton on um So, I mean I like I'm mixed is what I would say I Everybody in the universe Except you is excited for castlevania of the army. I just want to point that out. Yeah, you are alone in this I want you to know that Okay, I'm like but it's not vampires Like and so that's what hurts me like I've given up like with this preview What this did was this put the final stake in my heart For vampires like they're done because everything we thought was vampires has been revealed and it's not Um But I like everything hold on when we get to cursed city Some of our things we said were vampires on my big collage of rumor engines that could be vampires But some some of them are actually vampires, but but they're not vampires, which is what matters Um, this is so so I mean what I would say is that like I love this and I love that Legion of Nagash is getting an update. I love that it's being rolled under Soul Blight. I think that's fine um so I What confused me was that adam seemed to suggest we'll see more of this army Later in the reveal and all we saw was cursed city And so it makes me think that we might see a bunch of the heroes from cursed city in the soul blight army itself Oh, no, I think the intent we'll get there when we we're gonna get we're gonna get to talk about cursed city Obviously, that's a I mean like my god. We're all waiting on bated breath to talk about cursed city Like this is all this is all nonsense. We've been discussing so far until we get to cursed city. Right, right But uh, yeah, okay white dudes cool classic Nice, I dig him fine enough. Uh, and yes, I agree very super classic shield. Like my god. Is that a night late? Like that is a 1989 piece of art shield right there. Yeah, that awesome like billipede Crawling design. Yep. Yep. I I have one of those shields. I have a couple in my bits box. So like yes, I have that plastic shield Yeah, okay, we're gonna take a little side detour here. We'll talk about this for just a moment I will admit this is like the least exciting part of it, but there is a little bit that's actually really cool So this is that we saw the whole new warband. So we'd seen two models out of the four previously Uh, now we're seeing the archer, which is here. Yep. He's an archer. Nope He doesn't have a bow string It's okay. Yes. There are no no toenails. Yes, there are no toenails Correct. The absence of toenails continues. Hey, man Those are harsh rocks on or talons Just popping off. They're just popping off left and right. Yeah, exactly You can't expect a toenail to skip But look as cool as this guy is and he's fine by the way, no issues here Uh, we all know we're here for this guy Uh, this dude with his scooby-doo villain tiki mask I'm all about this guy. Say I'm I know you had a lot of strong reaction to this guy Orcs were my first love in warhammers. So I have a strong appreciation for all things green I love this model. It yeah, there's so much potential none of these none of these orcs have war paint added to them as well so just Think about the endless potentials of them completely, you know changing most of their skin tone to something really strange or And yeah, yeah that that flat backdrop. I just I see so many ideas I love that his mask has a stylized orc face on the mask right like his green head with a big jaw And both the eyes are the same size. Yes. Thank you Thank you for not constantly making one eye bigger than the other and every piece of orc created Iconography they're constantly comic relief. It drives me insane Thank you Just wanted to normalize just once that's it. It's all your dreams are coming true. Yeah, man. I have very low limited dreams All right, anybody else here gentlemen any other thoughts on the orc stuff All right, it's cool. There you go. Tom. I like it on orc boy before we get to where we want to get to I like as noted in the comments the danger noodle Um, I love the little the little snake just hanging out there Like that dude's ready to do some work and he has the under the orc underbite the orc underbite. It's amazing Yeah, the snake has the same orc like jaw that that's why he picked him He was like looking through all his snakes till he found the one with the right the right jaw It's an accessory to his outfit. Right. Yeah, exactly. This is my snake. Okay. Oh, yeah Uh, and then yeah, just the previous two dudes wolverine and the and fred flintstone Yes, there's such a fun potential for a diorama with like all the model except for the shaman Yeah, you know wolverine distracting that guy's running up behind The archer is picking his shot and they're in a canyon and they're luring a stone horn and I don't know Sure. Absolutely. All right. Uh, and then there's a new starter set This will obviously be cheaper and it'll be like for retail stores and stuff like that. It's got some stormcast and some glaive wraiths Okay, cool beans. Uh, need stuff. Don't care. Uh, I mean like if you're very excited about this I'm not trying to take away from your thunder. I'm not yucking your yum. I just like it's not what I'm here for Um, I do appreciate that that the main guy on the cover is just straight up firing a bolter like I we all these all these are always bolt launchers, but now we're just literally having like the uh, the the Flash come out of the end Right, like it's just yep straight up. He's got a magic boulder. It's a red laser Yeah, like vision scope having having just watched that having just watched again the whole astarty thing last night I'm just like yep. I don't that looks familiar. So yeah, yeah, exactly. All right Uh, now let's talk about this cursed city begin your quest. We got the whole shooting match Uh, this is the thing. All right. I'm jumping. I'm gonna we're gonna come back to all the models Because we'll talk about this forever, but before we go through all the models. I'm gonna scroll way down here Okay, so like don't worry. We're not skipping them. I'm gonna come back But I wanted to come to this picture first, which is the what's in the box. Okay because This box We're gonna talk about our we're all gonna put we're gonna put a flag in the sand. You ready? We're gonna play a game here called how much is this game going to be in us dollars So All right, you get your eight heroes You get 42 figs for the bad guys and we'll break down where those are in a minute The 10 objective markers all of which are good. That was a rumor engine By the way, the bird with the key was one of the rumor engines. I love hangman pointing skeleton super classic great for a diorama Most important thing right here a book that comes in this box That gives war scrolls to all of these things everything in here You get your aos war scrolls in the actual box for this because the cursed city rules are separate They don't they had it on the on the thing they showed on the screen. It's actually not on this little picture Oh, there's a rulebook in quest book. Sorry. It's right up here so, um I am Thrilled that it's going to launch with as I asked for The cursed city rules great fine, of course. I've got to be able to play the game Aos Yes, I want all these scrolls and the war cry rules for this stuff too Are appropriate fantastic. This is exactly what they should be doing. It's exactly how they should launch games It makes it interesting to anybody who's playing it Good, uh, also weird dice in here. Uh, notice these weird dice that come along with it They're like 28 dies is like a v12 these weird zuchi dice or whatever we've got going on back here Um, I I know what those are Okay, what are the weird dice tom? So if you look at the picture of the map and Or like the actual play mat when they have all the like characters and everything like they show like play in action If you zoom in on the character scroll, you can see the knight and different dice correspond to different defenses or different Uh, like so normally you had the the old pie chart which was like save move, you know hit points whatever Those dice correspond to different actions So you'll likely have a different like you'll have set numbers that you're looking for and then based on your character You'll get different dice to achieve those those target numbers All right, cool. Okay. Here we go. Here's the game. So with all of this stuff like this is a packed box So this is gonna be prices right rules. We will come back to later closest without going over Sam, how much is this box in the united states dollars? $200 and there will be five expansions. All right Very good. Good guess scott. What did blackstone fortress cost? It's a good question. I have no idea. Okay, because I think it's gonna cost this is gonna cost whatever that costs Okay, it's the same. So the the price point of blackstone fortress. I'll look it up while we're while we're guessing That's not how this game works. Yeah, you can't google. What are you doing? Okay, that's cheating. That's cheating. He's right That's cheating. Um, I'll say 180 180. All right, john You can say 180 181 Oh It's going to be like 195 sure. Well, I've heard All right, top two Why so my gut was 195? Okay, I'm gonna be the man out. All right And oh, oh there you go scott picket says blackstone fortress was 150 Uh, which leads me to my guess Okay, uh, my guess is gonna be this is is this is gonna be I'm gonna say I'm gonna play in a flag at 160 once. Uh, yeah, uh, my my heart says 165. That's why I'll play my flag 165 160 was the old silver tower Yes, I think it'll be 165 and and here's why I say that I think it'll be lower Like I understand that they oftentimes up price these boxes But with this kind of a board with their board game thing, they want to put these in more stores They want to have it in more retail outlets. It has to go beyond the worimer Sort of crew they want to be able to sell this in other places Right and so I think they would take they they might take the hit and lower the price point to do so Just a guess who knows if it came out. It was like 200 or 210. I would be like, yeah, okay Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised still buying it right. I'd be like, okay. I guess I'll still buy this like you you got me you got me This is an entry level product Okay, and so like I think even a 150 price point I don't think I would be too surprised by Because their their goal is not to sell you this it's to sell you this and then every other expansion that comes after it Uh, which those expansions will be like one tenth of the models in 70 dollars Yeah, right I mean like literally you get a new weird monster and two other guys to go with it and that'll be a $55 box, right? Right. They are selling you an ecosystem by selling you this and so what I'm thinking is that like It'll probably actually be like the value here is 195 190 to 210 is what they would normally ask for something like this I I'm not surprised if it's 150 Yeah, and that's that's what I'm saying I could see a lower price point because they do like to sell these beyond just the You know just your normal like what their normal box I do when they do those like Small two player boxes that are clearly just little bits of aos forcing each other 40k forces They up other than like in dominus, which is a launch box, right? They up price the heck out of those It's like oh it comes with 11 models as 200 dollars. That's because they know they've already got you That's not for a new person, right? They're not trying to get their hooks into you They're trying to they're selling you more of what you already are addicted to right? Yeah, they're They're deep inside you So but this yeah All right, now we got to talk models. Let's do this All right. So yeah, here's the big da-da-da play space, whatever. Yeah, great cool stuff Uh, okay heroes of tarth brian of tarth. I am stoked about this hero an order of azir watch commander Coming down. She wasn't the lion warrior of Odessa that I was hoping but that's okay She's still super cool. If this is a herald for an eventual order of azir army Or if this is just a super sweet fig, I love this model Cannot wait to get it stoked Adam adam seemed to suggest by the way like He hinted at the fact that like I want you know, like I'm really hopeful for what this model may herald in the future And when you look at all of these models, we're about to look at like Two-thirds of them kind of point to an order of azir force Uh, yeah, completely which I want to see I want to see the like human Inquisitorial type of forces coming down from azir and wreck in some shop Any thoughts on this girl? Solid model. Yeah, we've actually seen a couple models in this like two-handed sword grip recently in the dark Hasen box. We saw a luminous with this kind of thing going on. I swear there was a third design somewhere I think it's great. I like the back leg raised up a little bit. It gives you kind of like this forward push It's a good model. Yeah, like the big eagle on the shoulders. Yeah, that eagle doesn't dominate the whole design Right. Certain thing we'll get in the future Like somebody who's coming up. Yes, she's great I don't know. So is every every uh, female warrior with blonde hair going to be brand of tarth for the rest of time now? Yep, I'm one of those people no one can see. Yeah, and I'm Sebastian Bach Your time hangs. Yeah, that's exactly All right, you're Brent, uh Okay Witch hunter we've seen him before he's still awesome. He's so he was always awesome And he still might be the best one in the lot, uh, honestly, they might have like led with the strongest model, but whatever All right, I'm okay with that. I think he can just Lower his head a little bit and his hat connects to the collar He's got like a duck bow. It's like, oh no, my ceasem's always coming on me. Oh, I'd myself It like opens while he's speaking Oh quick, you're coming. Well, he's he's he's wearing the sorting hat If I can't see them they can't see me, uh, John's cosplay as this guy is clearly ready to go. Yeah, exactly Uh, I love it. All right, uh, the new ko uh fun thing about So, I mean you you go tom you talk about ko. This is your thing. What do you like about this guy? Uh, dude, I love the like the long coat like we need more We need more ko and petticoats. Let me open with that I love the fact that they went with like the half respirator Right because like with ko We've seen the metal beards and like the respirators before but we've always seen like the full helm on them And so when I did mine with my conversions I actually had like I imagined that that faceplate could pull off and in fact, that's what it looks like happens But it's just the inverted function of that on this guy. Um, I love that. He's like an admiral that like I don't know. I just I love everything about him. I do And he should be I would be up your alley because this is a really cool ko model It has a lot of character like some of the ko look pretty stock But yes this dude in the big coat with the half mask like just wearing the mask board of the Uh, which one of you probably talks like bane you come We're going to tell I was bored in the skies. You've only come to it recently. Okay, so got it bane Uh, I also love that by the way like as a little thing. I love that the painter actually did the whole red Yeah, I love that green Thing on his on his like he's still got enough juice or whatever whatever this is tracking He's he's green on juice The pressure canister for his skyhook. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah This dude's awesome great stuff. I I like his jacket too. He's like it like the the shirt. He's wearing a little attachment or whatever Everybody's rolling into the cursed city with a trench coat on. Yes five people Uh, these heroes all have good good fashion sense. Yes He obviously has an ability called get over here. Yes Yeah, uh I can't wait for the first person to to paint him like matt. I moody Yeah, even even has a trench coat. Just like that. He does have that trench coat. All right, uh, okay uh Go ahead scott This means so many things Not all chronos they need to have hooves. They don't need to be weird dear people It means that there are more of them because in her story like she's from like a tribe It's been exiled exile. They're still got the classic like vengeance like characteristic and storyline Vengeance are the horns in her head or is it a crown? It's a question. Okay. Do not know The fadeaway jumper pose. Yes Mama Uh, yeah, it's a great model. This is the character. I'm going to play and no one's gonna touch you Like obviously if your eyes dibs this and every same game of this I play Yeah, I mean 100% like if you rolled up and you wanted to play a game of war and request with scott And you're like, oh, by the way, I painted the elf for myself. I'm gonna play the elf He would just flip the board and kick your ass like that's it I'm not playing I'm the shoe. I'm always the shoe. You know, I'm the shoe. Okay Uh, this dude with his swagger pose. Yes Uh Yeah, this like Conquistadorish sort of fellow with his pistol Uh and his his long saver Airbnb cafe kind of vibe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this dude's super sweet Not like he's not the stand out of the thing, but he's a solid performer, right? Yeah. Yeah, exactly He's that dude that wears the loud boots, but then they turn silent at random Just with his thoughts. Yeah, like magical clicking boots. I love how yeah, kind of flamboyant he is and just all these right ways Well, exactly his pose is so much like whatever is in this city. I've got it He doesn't even one sleeve. Yeah, he doesn't even his arm in his sleeve even that's how Zero fc gives to daft dressed. Yeah. Yeah, he's super laid back I can hear his russian accent Ha ha sure All right that minimum certainly eastern european. Yes, I agree Uh, this guy is so weird. I love this dude. So he's like an exile from the city He was a friend of the weird cat guy or whatever Um, who who didn't go along with it and got out of the city Uh, yeah, I love this dude. I love his weird creepy super long beard His I think that's his face. Oh, wow But both of them are by the way This guy and the prior guy at the swagger are both x s x city inhabitants Yeah Yeah, because he was a the guy at the swagger is him as a noble Like he was a one the last noble of his family from the city Um, and then this guy is the friend of the the pet guy The cat collector. Yeah, this guy is great. Yes, uh, love the books. He's got like three books You catch that there's like one here one under his arm here and one in his hand here. He's just like It's like i'm going to play war hammer Uh, yeah, man his his story like he's so weird and like just this long swoopy line Is that beard? It's own sprue piece Gotta be dude or attached to the jaw does it does it hook up like is it the is it his lower lip Jaw like he's up saying this and the beard is that one sprue piece Depends where the head is because I feel like the head and the beard can be one piece because I don't think it makes it An easier to cast if you remove the beard Uh, but it depends where the head lies and there's the rest of the sprue Yeah, I don't know if this is a mask because he has little bumps around his head So I don't know if it's a mask that he's wearing or if that's just his weird head Yeah, it's a mask. It's a bone mask because he doesn't have eyes Um, I look given the state of this city I would believe maybe he just doesn't have eyes or skin It's a bone mask and that's his actual beard underneath is what i'm calling now That said his story is that he stole a bunch of negash's books and they threw him out Oh, that's a really big deal All right, anybody any other thoughts on this dude? I'd say if this was necromondo the beard would be three pieces Yeah, I'm uh, I think the next model in line is another castor type. I hope it's just really cool that there's Wow worse girls for these because Hey, man. Oh, yes, a little bit spice a cheap wizard. Yes This is more order of easier stuff right here, right? Like I actually really like the cool the thing coming off her back with the tassels hanging down Uh, I think though the one thing is she's very static and they could be cool If you've flared those tassels out a little bit like if you just kind of you know, you can do that Just heat them up a little bend them let them cool They'll reset if they just i'm not talking like straight out behind her But if they had a little bit of like schwoop, you know, it's a little schwoop at the end Yeah, this is the tiniest schwoop. Yes, a little bit of schwoop I would love if her arms were a little bit more open so rather than like this they were like this Yeah Yeah, this is good also another room ranger by the way with the tip of her staff as a room ranger and so Yes, as we we talked about that previously because you could see from the artwork right away that it was the room ranger Um, but yeah good stuff there. She's cool. Again, not a standout but a solid performer. Yeah, right? Uh Let's talk about a standout Uh, is there anyone not stoked about this guy in this room? Dude finally a plastic ogre with his feet apart It's taken 15 years to get us to this point. This is the second one. We've ever seen Yeah This dude is awesome Uh, I freaking love this ogre My immediate thought and I said it when we were watching together. Why don't all ogres look like this? Right. Why are they all just dad bod fat guys that have like the exact same Body like every ogre iron got to glutton to dude on the back of a stone horn like Every ogre literally has the exact same body. It's hot swappable. You can put it if you've got an ogre body You can make any ogre in the range Okay This dude looks much like broader more muscly like his shoulders are big and broad right? He's still Meaty, right? He's not like some kind of deep V triangle kind of dad for sure, but this Yeah, you walk into him and get like yeah, you like bounce off the sky when you're turning around a corner Yeah, I love his shoulder pad this random devil face from whatever mercenary, you know lands he's traveled to Love that old school belt style too. And yes Flips over and back behind the belt. That's a nice little touch Yeah, the chainmail. Yes. He is a corpse eating ogre. He's an ogre who's found a taste for the dead And so he's he's come here because he's it's rich with food Uh I freaking love this guy. I love I still have a little holy water around his neck too. Did you catch that? Like he's got his little jar of holy water still like look, he's hungry, but he's sensible Maybe it's tabasco It's seasoning. It's how he seasons the end and over holy. It's holy sriracha Yes, now that said, I mean, he's probably leaner because uh, the dead aren't as nutritious Oh, there you go. Not so many calories. Yes, of course sure It's like the like the the mortal realms keto diet There you go. Yes All all all protein. Yeah, uh Yeah, this guy's the scale of his shirt that turning to scrap and then I've got the leather with the the plates Like so good his his like the chain mail or whatever he has It's so it looks so different than all the other like chain mail type of stuff that they do, right? Uh, yeah, he's very mordheim ogre that that that dude. I always love that ogre for mordheim Uh, but like a clearly modern take on it. Then we're back to the beginning. All right Here we go round the horn favorite hero. Who is that? Who is the best hero sam? Oh, I will scroll. I will scroll so we can we can all thank while you're while you're contemplating. All right Might be the so far. It's the lady He's pretty cool. There you go lady. I think either ogre. I'm gonna go ogre. What am I saying? Okay Ogre's very good. I'm trying to have to pick the most obvious choice for no reason at all He is a standout. Scott. What up? What else easy that was a slam dunk. Yep, john The character he is somehow already cosplaying as Yes, exactly the witch hunter. Uh, I'm giving it to the this night. She's my favorite out of bunch I love her but the the witch hunter is like he's he's right behind. He's a close second Uh, tom your pick witch hunter Like sorry like he's like he's just He's he's stunning. He truly is It is hard to fight with an under slung steak launcher on a silver bullet rifle Like that's pretty sweet. Okay, uh, but we can't talk about the good guys only There was a lot of of celebration and laughter at everything at these guys New bat swarms. I did not think I would live to see the day and this leads right into it Yes, tom like not only do they put the worst girls in here But look all this stuff. This is just in the soul light army The bat swarms are part of it the skeletons will be part of it like well, not only that you actually have the champion model here Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. These swarms are awesome. I love these bat swarms I love the flight of this one and this little dude. This is my favorite bat in the whole lot Yeah And then I love this big giant bat with his like weird human-ish face It's a medieval interpretation of a cat Yes Yes, this is awesome. John you excited about the bat swarms. I am Yeah, you're shooting can't touch me now That's right, uh, and then the the rat swarms which is pretty solid a lot of them have like little weird bony heads but Um, you know rat swarms actually are still in the scaven book. So hey accidental new kit for the scaven army So nice the silent empire. Yeah thumbs up for that I'm curious about what those will will play like in ages sigma Yeah, are they are they going to just use like scaven rat swarm rules? And that's literally it or are they rat swarms that they're going to be able to be used in Soul of Light grave lords and you get new cool like dead rat swarm for sure. Yeah, they're they're probably grave swarms Yeah, there you go. Yeah grave rats One of the minus one to hit aura. Yeah They're just everywhere. Yeah All right, uh, so these guys I was wrong Tom you go ahead. I was wrong Tom was right. These are, uh, ogres undead ogres who are this who came down originally with the lord of olfancarn And with the savior there and uh, and have now been turned into the dead So yes, they are there was a lot of discussion about this back on the preview But they are undead ogres, uh, they're headsman's axes. I am about that life Dude, yeah, there is so much, uh, so much crampus about these I love I want to paint. I want to paint that body. I want to paint that big cloak with swirling almost christmas designs But right next to it. I want to paint that beard Man, yeah, the guy with with uh, with the hood up. Yeah These dudes are awesome. Uh, another rumor engine by the way down here the rat holding the little key He was a rumor engine recently. So there's another one hiding in there John you excited about these dudes. Do you want to see Just real quick. I'm gonna throw over to you. I have been asking forever for undead of other races, right? Why don't we see undead ogres orcs elves, whatever undead ogres? Love it. I hope these are units in the soul of light book That would be so sweet if this is like an elite unit you could take of like three big ogres The zombies or ghouls or whatever they're supposed to be. Yes I think that they're even going to be more impressive when we can actually see the scale when we see them standing next to the hero That will really kind of tower over In the mongol influence is just awesome. Yeah Yeah, 100% Uh, these dudes are awesome any thoughts scott on the on the undead ogres. I'm not about that. Okay Not living this life. No, but yeah, they remind me of orcs too much and like orc undead mongolian things Kind of like a mishmash of too many too many uh Aesthetics gotcha. See, I think the only thing that's orky is the fact that they chose to give them Weird green skin because they wanted to be putrid if you if you picture them in like purple You know purpled flesh like dead flesh. I think they feel spot-on in the orc influence Yeah, I I just love these axes like I got in heaven. I love those axes. They're so huge. I like I love the big chips out of them and stuff Yeah, uh, I want to pattern those jackets. Yeah, man bold russian designs. Yes Uh, yeah, these dudes are great Uh more skeletons. I think we have yeah, we already know these are like a perfect 10 Yeah From we you know, we saw the few that were previewed and yes the 10 skeletons total in the box like a unit of skeletons Like that's an interesting number Did see you kind of do get your vampire army in a way And it's very Chest out shoulders back in a very debatable way. Yeah. Yes. It's a very debatable way Like is it good or bad? I don't know. Uh, but yeah, these dudes are great I freaking love all these skeletons. I like their mix of weapons to some of the spears This dude has the big like simitar or whatever banana blade. Yeah Tom these aren't new skeleton warriors, right? These guys are wearing armor. This is a different unit No, this is skeleton warriors, um, but You know, my my concern actually here was something aesthetically Did it strike anybody else's weird that the clothes are all blowing different ways? Uh, there's some different direction. I feel like these two they're in the same direction Uh, here they're going this way here. You know, I mean like these are opposite directions It's it's contra pasta to whatever direction they're leaning is what they did I understand but it like as a unit like as a as a as a whole Like compositionally it just bothers me and I don't know why Maybe because all the lumineff like when on theirs they lean the same direction like with the wind blowing But the like I don't know like I just maybe I'm nitpicking like I think they're beautiful models, right? Yeah It's just it it's a curious decision compositionally I think similar to the zombie kit. They have a little bit of the problem of like why Do seven dudes all have the exact same Someone said runway pose. Yeah It feels like maybe something a little bit more static What could have could have like uh multiplied further without being as obvious, right? Yeah, it's not it's not it's not as bad. Like I still love the unit. Yeah, that's fair. It's fair. Yeah It looks like there's actually this is actually five poses That just one thing was tweaked Like they took the z cat and just kind of Twisted Yeah, there's it's the same uh battle gown on on the left hand side. Yeah those two models. Yeah Yeah, even though like it's just the arm switch, right? Um, but like yes, I think these will be skeleton warriors. Sorry No, I'm sorry, uh But you know on the bright side, maybe that means you get like a five up base save now So, okay, okay I'm all for that if you redo the war scroll. Yeah, you'll get a new scroll and the new book all the scrolls are gonna get redone So maybe skeleton warriors have a five up save now because they got over on Okay, I I hope you're right and they don't just copy pasta 50 of the new Uh, well that Yeah, we'll see uh, see what happens Uh, the zombies. So let's talk about these. We have two. Yeah. So again, we get what 10 zombies, right? I think yeah in the thing. So a weird again another unit Um, I like the carrying around the gravestones as a concept as we talked about. I'm not sure I love it on all This like every one of them. That's the problem. Yeah I'm a pox walker. This is how we all know that we're talking to other pox walkers We all have the exact same thing going on One of these is cool to stand out, but this looks like a set Of weird cool linear knot zombies. Yeah, or everything It's too much of the same thing not every single person's bear with some kind of gravestone or some kind of marker anyways Yeah, I I mean, I appreciate that they went to great lengths to make all of the little markers very unique and different Yeah, this is it's cool stuff like the stick and this when somebody just nailed a thing to a post right and said here Is buried somebody and um, this person has a more like old school one Almost looks like a birdhouse and you know candles and the flowers and stuff that's reminiscent of the um The mausoleum terrain kit, right? Like they're all individually Yes, I saw a Board of these all doing the same thing all bearing the load of their And yes, all the stones are like staked through the zombies which makes me concerned about Pulling them out like some of these are really horrific Like this guy with the where the branches and roots have grown down and out of his face like That's not great. Um, you know Painting wise. I like how they did a lot of these. I don't love some of their skin tones Some of these skin tones do look a little like cartoonish Like mr. Yellow man yellow man and woman here in the like super green one The whole root thing is just preposterous because the zombie is a relatively recent dead Your roots aren't growing that fast to grow through these bodies. They're very fast Close to the to the there's no trees around that we can see yeah How does just no one digs six feet down in the city? Yeah, you're six feet under. Yeah Oh, they're they're also copies by the way I'm alternating between the two and if you'll look every single one of them is like has a couple bits changed But they're almost identical to the prior one Yes, well, no Like there's five like core And then they have like the tombstone has changed like whatever's on top has changed And then sometimes some of the like the head swaps are changed sometimes not there's five sculpts for a 10 man unit Because like this girl right here is the same base model as this girl right here, right? But we switched to the you can see the heads the same and all this but it's a different tombstone Limbs growing out of the face guy here is the same. Yeah as limbs growing out of the face guy here But it's slightly different right like so. Yeah, it's got some beautiful zombie here that one Yeah, it's flowing I mean, I mean what I'll say is this I love that we're getting Uh Like another release of the garden more kit It is the kit that keeps on giving uh now something I wanted before we leave the zombies behind I wanted to talk about something on both of these uh these and the skeletons so theory time Are these both on 25 mil bases like classic zombies and skeletons or are these both on 32 mil bases? They've got a very wide stance Yeah, that's not 32 Or are they on 28? Sure. Yeah, they could be on 28. They're on 28 Yeah, five like it's just about yeah Like I think you might be right that they're all on 28 Because if you think about the height of the model, okay, like this is the easy way to tell base size The model itself is about 32 to 33 millimeters tall usually Right, so then take the size of the base and turn it sideways. How much of the model did you take up? Right and it's clearly not as tall as him So I don't think they're on full 32s because that's about like a 32 star outside Should be about the same as like up to the eye line of the the skeleton Right because that's where they tend to put their eye line at a 32 mil And I would not surprise me in the least if both of these units come out on 28s It completely ruins the unit. I mean what I'll say is uh, Whatever, there's a deeper there's a deeper discussion there to be had about should 25 mil bases be jettisoned into the sun and all of those small characters Well, I think that's the like we saw that trajectory start with war cry And I think that that's exactly what we're seeing continued Yeah Is that adds 25 models get rid of like 25 models that have traditionally been on 25 mils get redesigned or the kits get replaced They all get moved to 28s Yeah, I mean the bliss bar bar church from slannesh are on 28s by the way. Yep So it's this is not a new thing Uh, like whatever we could literally do a whole shell on why the 25 mil base is bad Uh, any rate and and and makes it very hard to points caught to like correctly balance units Yep So we'll talk about it. Yeah different different discussion not for this and we're back to baddie bats Okay, big boys. So the leader who is an ogre. He is an ogre vampire. He is an ogre vampire. Yeah, that's what they Yep He's pointing with his fist. Yeah, sorry this hand. Yeah, he's pointing with his fist. Yeah Forward It's weird that they didn't give him a couple fingers out or something, right? Like Yeah Yeah, or like or or yeah. Yes. Yes. Why is he like holding a severed head or something? Right, maybe a lantern Uh It's just like that that person literally got knocked out of frame. Yes every cinematic moment is just a puzzle piece of a larger scene All right round the room thoughts on the big bad of Kerr city He looks a little small for an ogre, but I I like him. I like the pelts are oversized, but it's fun think it it captures that Kisslev kind of yeah That yeah, his like body guards have He's a little small He's a little yeah I mean it's hard to tell right because all that we're viewing all these things the same size He could like when we look at the fig he could be like this much bigger than everybody else You'd be like, oh jeez, you know like because he could be on like a 60 mil or 50 mil. It's probably So he's probably about two inches high I think it's cool. They're exploring the idea of vampires and other typical fencing races If you haven't seen like an orc vampire or like an elf vampire like really I guess maybe we have at some point Yeah, um, but the problem with the model is you have fur Hat with fur more first like I see like a sliver of his chest And like in his pants like I want to maybe see more of the upper torso See what's going on Just too much of the same texture all over the model a lot of the time it when you get the model in your hands Just see a different angle as it changes here. Yeah when you see all the negative space and stuff like that extended arm could be really cool I think I'm gonna go to john, but I think you're exactly right sam on the model They oftentimes pick really weird angles to shoot the models from because forward at this angle He's so dominated by the wolf Right, but imagine if we like rotated him slightly this way So like the wolf's leg and side kind of fell out of frame and instead his face was looking like He's like he's hanging off of his base once you like rotated around Yeah, yeah, that was exactly where I was going This is the model that you're like when you see it and then wow when you hold it sure Yep Um, yeah, I mean, he's not gonna be my favorite villain, but we'll we'll get there. All right. Let's talk villains this dude Which we saw. Oh, yeah, sorry. I'm going. I apologize. Yeah, tom go Can I ask how long ago he killed that wolf? Five minutes ago because that's why that blood is still so fresh That's like that's the type of thing that like aesthetically like I just like it grates on me Is like what's going on with those claw marks in the wolf head? Because it doesn't make any sense within the world. They've created It's just the paint if it was painted as a if you painted it deep brown red as a scar Instead of a fresh blood. It would be fine It's like the chick I agree when they painted the eyeball still on the eagle Right, you're not gonna have a shiny bright clear eye in there, right? Yeah No, it's a good catch. It's a good catch. Uh, all right Uh, this guy we saw him previewed earlier in the week. Uh, I freaking love this dude. Uh, look look look This is a this is a studio model that has osl on it Wow There it is There it is Uh, I mean this guy's awesome Can we talk about the vampire cat? This is the cat collector by the way, somebody asked what model I was talking about This is the one I was referring to. Uh, the the cat has fangs Yeah, you see the cat being a living cat in the on the on the website, which I'll bring up in a Scroll through it. Um on the website You see you see all of the villains in their original hero form before the city fell And he has like a little nice cat that he keeps with him Like he's familiar with whatever and now it turned into like a mangy vampire cat Which is awesome. That is cool. Yeah Yeah, this guy's got birds and bats. He's like the spy master as they said during the thing. So I mean this dude's cool. Yeah, that's great Old creepy grizzled wizard, uh digging I like the kukri on his belt He does have a kukri and keys lots of keys. You notice that like everybody's got a key theme Like everything's running around with keys It's a lot of locked doors and a lot of locked doors in in this gatekeeper in this town. Yeah, which hero is the rogue? Because that's what I'm gonna be playing We were just playing some uh some dnd arcade and we got out of the rogue pop all them locks Uh skeleton guy. We saw this guy previously. You guys have any thoughts on this dude? Winner winner chicken dinner Yeah, he's yeah, he's been discussed a lot. It's It's great perfect in perfect in every way and with the new white lord That's like a that's like a aesthetic match made in heaven All I I really hope speaking of getting rules for these guys in death john I want to see like a skeleton captain. Yeah character Cheap little support fun, dude. Yes. Yes, exactly. Keep him cheap. He's not like a you know melee machine of death just a cool dude a little bit of melee hitting power And a cool buff for skeletons, right as he marshals his forces like that would be awesome all for that Yeah, dude. Yeah, this was like a sepulchral guard box. You make for really cool buried skeleton units. Yep All right, uh Oh, what is this? That's right. Hello smash bat Uh, he's in baby Uh, he like he might still need some actual like bigger wings as opposed to his little flappy glidy things That's easy to fix. I like it. He's great I had said there's a chance we would get a new var gulf and yes, I understand. He's actually like a var gulk or something I don't whatever they called him Whatever Uh, nope. That's a var gulf. That's smash bat. This is what I wanted Now I need to get some of these guys and by the way All of you who are watching the twitch stream and shouting out smash bat into the twitch stream You are my heroes. I love you forever. Everybody was celebrating smash bat and I was right there with you Uh, this guy is awesome. This guy is awesome. I love this dude Uh, yeah smash bat rules Uh, so good. There you go. Now. I have to do a paint a fec army in 24 hours to do my smash bat army Curious how big a base set is 60 I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. It feels 50 given his size. It feels 50. Yeah, but I don't we'll see I don't think you're gonna see anything more than 50 because of the spacing on the board game Yeah, relation to the skull the skull. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it feels like I'm 50 I like how slim and narrow the silhouette is. Yeah I like yeah, he just seems like he's so he's like in running. He's really kind of like live It's got like this really stringy muscle. Yeah, I love that really like vibrant pink Like shadow when the super pale skin. Yes, it's just so sickly. It's awesome. Yeah this dude I love Sam I love it. Yeah, this guy's awesome. Uh, okay Grave digger we saw him previously Yes Great, great dude. Uh, and then our new vampire like wolfy vampire people with their little their little things Uh, I'll get the let tom let me start with you on these dudes. I think we have all three of them here Yeah, so I'll kind of flip back and forth between them. Tom hit us up. What do you think of these guys? hard pass Hard fact, like I just I'm not interested in Whatever is going on here Like it was like maybe I was right. Maybe there was some disappointment here because like I wanted werewolves And that's not what we got. We got weird half vampire half wolves And I don't know. Maybe this is the aos like maybe this is the aosification of the Of the castlevania army that I was talking about that just goes weird or sideways Um, and I mean what it's realistically showing is it's the mix between smash bat and standard vampires Like these are vampires in transition towards that feral thing and that's fine. I just these didn't do it for me That's what I'll say Okay. Yeah, I like these guys actually and I'll say why Maybe you guys can connect in with your like whether you like them or not The reason I like these guys because they feel like they fit with the boss like he has this step For mongolian type of nature this wolf type of aspect And I like that they have that feral thing of like the more pawed Wolf feet, you know, but I also love that the models are just simple Like these are so wonderfully Not overdone These feel like they're going to be a pleasure to paint, right? Uh, I don't have 50 million bejangles everywhere. These guys are Remarkably bejangle-less Yeah, there's a quote Remarkably bejangle-less Exactly The only thing I I don't like is the weird furry crotch That thing's I know but just the way it sculpted too and where it like doesn't fade off into like just slight texture Into smooth scan. It's just like ones and zeros. Sure. Yeah, sure I think these guys would be so let me let me pitch something at you Imagine there was a little cloth Tabard kind of hanging down over the front of like in between the crotch kind of flowing back this way Right, imagine him jumping down or something and it kind of had like this kind of emotion to it Is that better? How's that how's that feel? It's looking so many other yeah, yeah, so these guys because I like how they're all perched like yeah I don't know. It's really cool. I mean The poses are really good launching perspective if you guys ready to pounce Yeah, this one makes me look like I feel like he's a toddler He's like tiny vampire, baby So I don't like that one so much but the first and third one are the ones I I like a lot Yeah, I like this one a lot the leaping one, right? Yeah Uh the the female of the bunch as it were. Yes Uh, yeah, I think these are cool. I like the weird mix and like I said, they feel like they belong with the boss Are you getting like a cat vibe a little bit her face? But that could also be the face paint they added right it's the nose The nose is the nose is what you're seeing. It gives you the cat vibe the fat nose Yeah, the fat nose on the lap on the girl on the lap Feet feel more like puma ish like with a big thick and the tiny ankle. Yeah Uh Noted that the van these vampires all are our lamprey vampires They all have four fangs and if you'll notice like the cat that we saw before that had the lower fangs Like all of them have like that's how they've done the teeth on all the vampires is four fanged Or most of them. I mean like the ogre or we only see the top two but the lower lip's covering it Uh, but the but the one wizard we see the bottom two fangs So it's interesting like the consistent aspect are like basically four fangs, which is an unusual aesthetic for vampires Cool. Uh, yeah, so good villains. We already talked about what's in the box. What's in the box? Uh And then a novel from seal learner, which okay cool me stuff And you'll get another hero in there. Yeah, so it's probably It's probably like, uh, what's his face? Uh go trek or somebody That'll show up in the book and also in like the war scroll be in the back of the book Yeah, so cool stuff. Uh It might just be this guy Oh, no, I unless I think that's the long beard guy unless that's yeah, maybe that's him without his bone mask on Right because that looks like his normal face Yep Yeah, he does have a big scythe maybe scythe guy who knows and then we thought we were done, but no Uh, nothing to really show the one, uh here. I'll play the video, but I'll mute it here. So hold on There we go That's how they don't have to hear this but yes, uh, that's right confirmed It was it was called way back when when people first saw the wing. They were like it's bellicor's wing It's a wing with chains in it. It's bellicor You know, we're getting a new bellicor. I was suspect on it But in fact the first prince is returning Uh, I love how it says in the video like he was forced to crown his inferiors You know relating back to like when he was forced to acknowledge archon I love that there are dead chaos people on his base of the Of archon's legion the ever-chosen's legion uh, yeah, so Uh, cool. I again and it says Uh, we're not going to give way too much right now except to say that this is all tied in with the princely 30 book in the broken realm saga So after checklist we have our first prince. So third book is perhaps bellicor bellicor Which that would suggest that that's who we saw by the way in that narrative with the skater There was a story that came out this week where a bunch of scaven death masters were going to like The shadow lord who was powerful and deadly and the death masters had to like show off how deadly they were To him and so they all presented offerings and then the fourth one obviously won by going I'm the best I didn't bring you a gift and then bellicor whatever was like the shadow lord who he didn't see it was in the fight He's like, what do you mean you don't have a gift? You were supposed to bring me something He's like give it a second and he waits there and then the other three skaven explode And he's like see I didn't even have to lift a hand to kill them I'm the best death master. I poisoned them days ago. I am the gift Yes, and so uh, yeah super stoked for a new bellicor. That's fantastic. Good. Good Uh, cool stuff. All right guys Let's wrap this up. We've been going for a while Covered it all. This is a huge preview Final thoughts sam go. What do you got? I'm buying cursed city Yes, that is one. I'm buying the storm cast model Yeah I think that's all I'll buy the savage orcs. Yeah All right, be fun to paint. I mean so that is a perfect unit entry right there for Like a golden demon or something because you've got fur scales skin You know cool weapon textures dynamic posing chance to do war paint tats It's everything. It's all there Uh, and they're all open poses too because even the guy with the two-handed weapon it's way up over his head like this, right? Yeah, not like not like this like if I was gonna say say we're gonna hold a two-handed weapon when I wouldn't hold it probably like this Just to find to think about how to pose it if I was posing one Uh, at any rate Scott. What do you got buying cursed city buying the soul by grave lord white lord? By buying I mean very inspired by yes motivated to paint and craft in this lovely hobby Yeah, yeah, exactly. John there should have been more vampires. That's yes How did we not get the whole soul like rave lords reveal? Just give it away. You told us the army's there. We know it's coming It spoiled like two months ago. Just put it out Just show it. Well, well it tells me that we may have a much later release than we thought So it may be june before we see this army because I think everything that we see here We we're gonna see in the next two months I would also like to see uh coming in april or something give us some timeline on the Yeah Yeah, sure like I'm appreciative of the shipping challenges that they're under I mean they were they were getting triple double quadruple whammy to everywhere. So it's five d chess Fitty indeed, uh curse city obvious pickup. I don't that looks so amazing top to bottom I'm very excited for it to be the foundation for the soul like rave lords army Because I certainly do think those are gonna be zombies those are gonna be skeletons Those are gonna be characters like you're gonna be able to use most of that stuff Just pour it directly over into the new soul like rave lords army like Part and parcel drop them right in that'll be this that you'll get the scrolls in this You'll get the army rolls in the battle. I just hope it's not the warhammer under worlds a vacation of war scroll units Sure, where it's just like well technically you can use them, but they're bad, but they're all shit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah There you go Better, uh, okay Not to be captain america over here, but uh, yes, so um Yeah stoked for all that. I'm excited for a new bellicor. I'll obviously definitely pick that up. It's funny too because Talking about slanesh, which we'll talk about this wednesday. I was like, you know To really run slanesh. Well, you might need bellicor in it, but I don't have a slaneshi bellicor And I was like, how am I gonna convert for that? I've got to find some model to convert to a slaneshi bellicor Nope, never mind. I'll just use bellicor to convert him over to be slaneshi. So a plus tom your final thoughts Uh, I mean, I'm a buyer of basically everything here, but the orcs Like, uh, maybe the white king like it depends on like the the white king I could easily see him like getting rules To go with him like they for warhammer request, right? Like the the inverse of what's happened, right? Where we could potentially get like a white dwarf war school release for him So like in that world, I could see myself buying all of this including the luminous like the luminous They were hot. I loved I love so much of what they did with the range here Yeah, as soon as we get away from fox spirit. Tom's all right. Is there some better stuff going on here? Yes Uh, all right. Well, there you go. As always tell us what you thought if we missed anything If you caught anything drop it down in the comments for all of you watched. Thank you so much Thank you gw for putting on a great preview show more only a os ones We can just dispatch. I think with the 40k preview shows from now on We don't really need those Can I ask can I can I make an observation? We had 28 000 viewers In an a os specific or a os only reveal show That's amazing So like that tell if you want to know what the health of the community looks like Normally, I think viewers are around 38 to 45. 40k. It's usually up around like 35 to 40,000. Yeah Right and we had 28 in an a os only that's huge for the community if you want to know what the health looks like of the community itself That is a really excellent point. Yes, uh, and it shows how many people there are excited And I think there's people very very excited about a lot of the stuff they're revealing I mean cursed city is going to be huge. Obviously. I like the number of people who've looked at cursed city and went It's not it's not huge So Good stuff. Give it a like that helps other people find the preview show hit like subscribe if you haven't already and welcome All that kind of stuff. Thank you very much sam scott john gentlemen Fun time. We got to get back to painting now because we got to finish our our job tom I hope you're having a good day down there Where you are to all of you out there have a fantastic rest of your day and as always We'll see you next wednesday