 I'm here tonight with a special guest. He's an author of three books, AMS, Alpha Male Strategies. How you doing tonight, sir? I'm doing great, bro. How about yourself? Oh, not too bad, not too bad. Excited to have you here. I know you have a huge YouTube channel and a huge following. And one of the things that I did wanna talk to you about that you're really, really specific on and that's being on your purpose. So let's tell everybody what you mean when you say that. Well, the thing about being on your purpose, guys, is you have to find something that gets you up in the morning. You have to have something that gives you life. Something that makes you feel like life is more than just crap. So this is what I've learned in my life. You work and then after work, this is the issue where most people, you either can gain something in life or lose something in life. So a lot of people dabble in vices and stuff like that, that cost you money, like marijuana, alcohol, script clubs, whatever, gambling, whatever. Because we need that release or women. Let me throw that in there too, or women. And this is why you see a lot of guys chase women the way they do. And I'll be the first one to tell you, I was guilty of it also. This was my past time chasing women. I'm not blaming women, I'm blaming myself, okay? And so what I've learned is that if a man gonna either have purpose in his life, something that he's passionate about, something that he loves, something that's gonna better his life, something that when I wake up in the morning, the first thing is on my mind is this love of mine. It used to be fitness. And this has taken over it. The same way I'm passionate about this was the same way I used to read every physical book, education book, watch all the physical education videos. It's the same way I'm passionate about this now. Now this has replaced that and overtook that. And this was gets me up in the morning. And who knows our passion and purpose in life changes. What you will today might not be what you're passionate about 10 years from now. And that's fine. We grow, we evolve, our interests change, which is exactly why relationships don't last a lot of times because you grow apart. A lot of people say, well, what happened to that relationship? People change. George, I'm quite sure you're not the same guy you was 20 years ago. I'm definitely not. And so sometimes your purpose and passion in life changes, but we all need to have something that we're passionate about that wakes us up, that drives us. Something that it doesn't feel like work. It almost feels like I'm getting paid for this. And that's sometimes I like, I just did a Skype with a guy, helping them out. I was Skype. And I'm like, that's something I used to give to my clients that I was training for free doing a training session. And it's like data ones who put the idea in my head that maybe that's something you should look into because I used to give them advice and stuff like this life advice. And might I kid you now, these guys were millionaires, someone with millionaires George. And they were asking me, Tony, I'm sorry. That's all right. I don't know. I get that a lot. I get that a lot. You look not like George with the hair and all. I don't know why George, but and these guys would be millionaires. And they would ask me for data advice. And I'm like, I used to give it to them for free. And now they're paying me. And I'm like, wow, I actually make a living. So usually when you have what your purpose is going to be something that you actually say, I make a living doing this. Like I actually make a good living. I get, I get paid to tell guys the mistakes I've made in my 40 years on this earth. Cause that's basically what I'm doing. Telling them, don't do this because when I did that, this is what happened. And I'm actually getting paid for telling guys my wisdom and my experiences and my failures. You know, a lot of guys think that I'm this, born this chick magnet. I did everything right, George. I mean, Tony, I done made every mistake in the book. And so guys think I'm just this natural and oh, I just, I just do everything right. No, I've made so many mistakes. I screwed up so many relationships. I've messed up so many things that were going good from mistakes, overreacting, showing insecurities, not having a purpose in life. That's why I can tell you what not to do. Not because I did everything right, but because I done did everything wrong in my life. So that's the thing with purpose guys is that it's just something that you love to do. And then you find a way to make a living off of it. And you actually ask yourself, wow, if you somebody who love gaming or love dialing with computers or software or whatever and you start charging people X amount of dollars an hour to help them with their stuff, it almost makes you feel guilty. Cause a lot of times this is stuff you would have gave for people for free. And now you're able to make a good living off of it. And it's something, also I wanna add this, I see you's been asking something. I was going to add this. It's something that nobody has to twist your arm to work hard at. It's something that you can naturally do 12 or 16 hours a day. I haven't done anything. I haven't left the house today. I go to the gym Monday, Wednesday and Friday, Tuesday and Thursday, I don't go to the gym. And on the weekend I don't go to the gym. I haven't left the house today. It's all been working on my book, Two Sky Consultations, working out with you, made a video for my Patreon. I've been in the house all day and I don't feel, and I woke up around 11 and I've been working all the way through. Now I'm doing this with you. I don't feel like I did nothing all day. Yeah, but you got a lot accomplished. I got a lot accomplished. I feel good. If I didn't have this right now, what would happen is I'd probably be at a bar chasing. When I would be doing something that gives me no extra benefit to my life that adds nothing to my life. If I wasn't doing this, I guarantee you, I'm in that level, I probably would be out right now somewhere at a bar or something chasing till. And that's the thing. That's taking money away from me. This is actually putting money and it's something I love and it's gonna bring me much more excitement than being out at a bar chasing till. And that's the thing. What draws men to you? What's the issue? Is it a lack of fathers? Is it a lack of guidance? Do you think that's a main issue? Is it social media? Is it Tinder, Bumble? Is it the women are getting all the validation all the attraction they want without working for it? I think what drove guys to me was I just came right out Tony and I just told guys the truth. And I said, listen here, your guys are not being the best version of yourself. Y'all guys are making all these videos. When I joined YouTube, the mixtape thing was exploding. He had a bunch of crybabies on YouTube and just complain about female nature and meanwhile you're 350 pounds and you make seven bucks an hour and you're complaining about female nature. If I was a woman, I wouldn't want you either. And you know what? All these other dating coaches told guys, just work on your confidence, read my book. Only thing guys wanted was somebody to tell them the truth. Tell them the truth. Just tell me the truth. And I really didn't think guys wanted to hear my message because I thought like I said, I'm holding guys accountable and I'm not blaming women, which is what people guys love to do. It's easier to blame the woman. And so when guys heard my message, they said, finally somebody who says, looks and money do matter. Like finally, y'all been telling me for all this long time, looks and my financial status don't mean nothing. That's what the other dating coach, all you need to do is take my course, take my pickup course, read my book on confidence, learn how to fake confidence. This you taught the girls this way. And then guys were like, I still don't feel confident. Of course not. Cause you haven't done the self-improvement. So when I came in with the message and told guys, listen, I don't have nothing in the bottle to sell you. I don't want, what I'm telling you it's going to be hard work. It's nothing in a book to tell you. I had no ideas to write a book. I just like, I just got tired of the complaining. I couldn't take it no more. And I say, I'm going to start a channel. I just can't take this crap no more. My channel wasn't monetized for six months. YouTube was going through the apocalypse. I don't, and dating coaches on my side of YouTube was baiting me on this. And they had the right concept, concept Tony about confidence. I won't never, I'll tell anybody now confidence is number one. The issue was they was preaching confidence to a guy and wasn't telling them how to go about increasing that confidence. Just telling a guy to be confident, just to wake up about your bed tomorrow and be confident. What's that doing? That's not helping nobody. But you tell a man, hey, if you get in the gym you lose 40 pounds and you get that better paying job and you feel better about yourself and you feel like you're more attractive to more women. Now I'm gonna feel more confident because you know what? I feel good about myself. But just telling me I need confidence ain't gonna, ain't gonna, it's not working. And that's what I was telling guys. And another thing to tell guys, and this goes back to purpose Tony was when you get on your purpose it takes away that scarcity. Because when you have no purpose in life and you get around a woman confident or not you're gonna have this scarcity because you're trying to get her to bring happiness to your life. When a man is complete already Tony, 100% complete as a man. I have my job, I have my purpose, I have my hobbies. That way, confidence or not, that way when I get with a woman I can act better, I can be more confident because I'm not in scarcity. So I don't need this woman to make me feel complete. I'm already complete and you're just a cherry on top. What guys do is they go out, they do everything but now my life, I'm still lonely. So I feel more confident Tony, but I'm lonely. So that you got more confidence you did the self improvement but you're still lonely because you don't have purpose and hobbies in your life. So that loneliness can still put you in a scarcity state the same way not being confident is. Cause at the end of the day, when I get out of work or I get out of school I have nothing to do. I still have 12 hours out the day. So I sleep eight hours, I go to school or I work eight hours. What do I do with this other eight hours that's open? And that is what me and fall into scarcity. So if I can replace this with hobbies and purpose now when I get with a woman, I'm not in scarcity. Guys only wanna get not lose they scarcity from having other women. You don't, you can't lose scarcity from always having two or three other girls. You gotta have loose scarcity from your lifestyle. So you have some guys, they don't have scarcity when they're dating two or two or three other chicks or at least one other chick. But if I don't have that, I'm back in scarcity. The only way you get rid of scarcity forever depend not depending on how many other women you they know is by having purpose and hobbies in your life. And that's why I started to tell guys when they call me and there is scarcity like that. I say, I don't even want you talking to no other women right now. It's gonna be total opposite of what you heard all your life. I heard you say that, I heard you say that in the last podcast, take 30 days and do absolute just work on yourself. Work on yourself and I don't just mean work on yourself physically in your job. I mean, as in your lifestyle hobbies, I need you to feel fulfilled before I even get you with another woman because if you don't have that, you just don't blow it. You're gonna over pursue. She's gonna feel the neediness in you and because you don't have no life. And I'm gonna say this also, if you have hobbies and purpose and all these things going on when you're conversating with this woman, watch how much more easier the conversation is because you have a life. When you don't have a life and you start conversating with one, what are you talking about? You don't have nothing to talk about. A guy said, well, we talk about a date. You don't even have a life. No one in your conversation sucks. But if you tell this woman what I got this going on and we're doing this because you're gonna talk about these on the first day because she's gonna prove obviously she wants to know things. And now you got all these hobbies and interests and things the purpose that you're talking about and you're talking about it with so much passion. You never run out of things to say. So that's why I tell you guys it's better to fix this part of your life. First, you, purpose and hobbies opposed to just going out playing the numbers game when you get with this woman you're gonna be in scarcity because you want her to bring you happiness when she's gonna think you're dull you have nothing interesting going on. You have a dead end even if you have a good job. Okay, you got a good job. What else going on in your life? What do you do? What are your interests? And this is what guys feel like now you come across as boring cause you don't have nothing you don't have nothing going on. So she thinks, how the hell I want to go is boring. And then she goes in case the guy who's got a lot of interesting and a lot of things going on. And you think like, oh, is she only want bad boys, bad boys. Bad boys have a life. You have nothing going on. You're boring. You go to work, you come home and you watch the smirks on TV. Why do I want to be part of that Tony? It sucks. I want to be part of it. I want to go here with this guy that has these going on. He's going kayaking. He's doing this. He's going horseback riding. That sounds like fun. I want to be a part of this guy's plan. You suck. You going to be at home want to sit on the couch and watch TV. And that's boring. So then all of these things about fixing your life completely to where you're just an interesting person to where a woman is just the cherry on top. Guys have no life. I get it all the time, Tony. Now a lot of guys enter the man as fear. Now they enter through trauma, okay? And I noticed there are a lot of channels and a lot of gurus that you had mentioned this a little earlier that they always blame it on the woman and never own their own shit. Never, you know, I know that complacency will be contempt in any kind of relationship. So owning your shit is really important. That's part of your purpose. The thing is, Tony, is what I found out as in financial or with women, where most things, people are a victim. Everybody's a victim. You know, you know, people are, you know, they go blow up their money and well, it's not me. Mitch McConnell is holding me down. Donald Trump is, he's holding me down. Barack Obama, he didn't do enough of us. And what I've seen is, what I've seen is, it's not, it's easier to play the victim than to take accountability. Point blank period. And the same thing goes on with women is why when I started my channel, it's much easier to hide behind a dark screen on YouTube and make mid-type videos and complain about, well, you know, women do this and women do this, women do that. Yes, women are imperatives. Okay, what are we gonna do about it? Are we gonna sit around and make videos for the next 10 years, complain about it? Or are we gonna be the best version of ourselves? So we are in a position to where we can make with these women. Because at the end of the day, that's what it's about. So if women are gonna continue to sleep with the top guys and the bottom guys are never gonna get in. Are you gonna stay down here and complain about that? Or are you gonna make yourself a high-value man to where you're gonna be up here and be one of these guys and have access to those type of women? The bottom line, that's women are not, 50 women will wanna sleep with one guy at the top and you have 100 guys down here willing to marry her and she'd rather be one of his bitches. And that's never gonna change, Tony. And so guys can either try to get themselves up here to be like that, or they can stay down here and be pre-selection, it's just in women. It's who they are. They see a guy that's sleeping with other women or he good with women and that's where they wanna be at. And you over here, you think to yourself, I have nobody, you can have me to yourself. And nope, that's not on the track. I don't want that. I want the man that all the other girls want. That's never gonna change. So what are you gonna do about it? You gonna continue to play the victim or are you gonna do something about it? Self-improvement is hard work and it's not no quick fix. If you're somebody who need to lose 50 of 100 pounds, that's not gonna happen in a day. If you're somebody who needs to increase your income, it takes time to learn a skill. I mean, it does, it's at least a year before you get good. Me with the personal training, I made money quick off of it, but guys have to understand that I have been training all my life so I already had a lot of experience. If I was 21 years old, I wouldn't have been able to make six figures personal training. I was able to make six figure personal training because I was 34 years old and I had been doing it for 16 years off and on, but I had a lot of knowledge in it. The average guy, if you want to become a personal trainer because you heard AMS was a personal trainer, you 21 years old, it's gonna take you a couple of years before you get good at assessing bodies. Or if you want to be an electrician, it's gonna take you a couple of years before you to master this craft. The money will come, just focus on increasing your skills first. Don't worry about the money, the money will be there, it takes time. And that's the issue with guys, the issue with guys. They don't want, they want to skip steps, they want to get to making the money overnight. Everything is easy, all these fad diets. That's why you see everything in the financial and the fitness world. Everything is a fad and people, because they know people are lazy. They know people want the quick fix and they don't want to do the hard work. Water diet, pineapple diet, Southwest diet, all there's not, all you need is a calorie deficit diet, either a calorie deficit for a prolonged period of time. That's what's gonna get you there. All these other fads and stuff like this. Burn more calories than you take in. Burn more calories than you take in and that's never gonna change. I don't care what other diets you can try and other diets, if you try, any of those diets, if you eat more calories than you burn, you won't lose, don't wait. Whether it's you fasting or whether you, whatever diet, Southwest diet, peanut diet, Presbyterian diet, whatever. If you eat more calories than you burn, regardless of what you restrict at your diet, you won't lose no weight. Plain and simple. Calorie deficit diet, build a foundation, get a skill or an education. I tell guys, whatever you do, get a skill or education. My biggest downfall in my life was, through my 20 was I had no skill. So I just manual labor jobs, whatever little job, that was a big no why, no long-term visions on it. I don't wanna go there and do that for two years and it don't pay me anything. No long-term vision. I don't wanna go here for four years. Don't pay anything. I went to job court quick. Went to school for a semester quick. No long-term thinking. I can't see four years down the road. You mean tell me I can't make money off of this for four years? So for all you guys out there that's to understand is that caused me a lot of my years because I had no skill. When you have no skill, instead of getting paid for what you know, you gotta get paid for manual labor what your body can live and do all this and other type of stuff. Cause came on by to pay you for knowledge, which is you get paid more. The harder you work, the less you make. And I found that out the hard way. The harder you work, the less you make. And that's what I went through my whole 20s. So get that foundation, get that educational skill for all you guys that don't wanna go to school, get a skill. And that way you can take that money and invest it and start your own business or invest in real estate, stocks, whatever you wanna do. And this is how you create wealth. There's no victims in this world. Anybody who's watching this right now, if you choose to right now regardless of what your situation is right now, I don't care what it was yesterday. I'm talking about right now, you can go to school, get a grant or loan or whatever you may just make sure it's something that's gonna pay some money. I'm going off in a tantrum since I talked. No, that's all right, go on. The issue with school, and I wanna nip this in the butt on it, the issue with school with guys got with school, is they go out and they get these degrees and crap that don't make no money and then they blame, well, I'm in debt. You in debt because you went to school and you just got, you just wanted to get a degree. And you weren't really looking at what this degree paid. So make sure you get a degree and something that brings money into the market. Don't just go get a degree in fish pottery and just feel good that I got a bachelor's degree, but it don't really make no money. This is what school gets a bad rep. If you go to school and get one of the STEM fields, go ahead, Tony. Now I went in my early 20s, I went to college. I went for construction technology, construction management. So when I got out of college, I did an apprenticeship, okay? And then I worked for a few different companies and I've had my own business now for about 30 years. What I noticed is there is a huge, huge shortage of skilled labor and I know younger guys. I think the average construction worker in the United States is about 50 years old. And I know if people see me working and I do pretty good. I mean, I've got a house near the beach. I don't drive an expensive truck. I could buy a new truck every year, but I don't, but I enjoy my work, but I'd probably make more in a day than most people make in a week. That's what I'm talking about, Tony. That's what I'm talking about. But then you key that off of that with you don't do the car and type of thing like that. You invest, see this is what I want to get. Anybody who watches this, that victim mindset is that you can either adopt the consumer mindset, which is gonna swallow all your money and you find yourself just being a consumer or the investor mindset. The guy who takes his money and he invests in Dutch real estate and stuff like this. And see that right there, when you do that, that creates generational wealth. So when Tony is not selfish and he's not just worried about himself and saying, well, I'm 50 years old and so I probably got a good another 25, 30 years and I'm only concerned about me. When you had that generational wealth mindset, like I do now, and you invest into things that's gonna be here long after you're gone, that sets your other family up and you change your whole family tree. So you see somebody like Donald Trump. Nobody that in his family is gonna have to work again unless they want to, but they're straight. Dave Ramsey, nobody that comes behind him, of course they probably are gonna work, but he's changed his family dynamics and that's what I'm trying to do. So no descendants of me gonna have to grow up the way I grew up because I made the sacrifices as into well, I'm just gonna be selfish and I'm just gonna blow all my money and when I die, the rest of the people come behind me, they struggle too. And that's why a lot of these wealthy families, a lot of these people, yeah, the Rockefellers are giving an advantage. Yes, Cooper, I can't think his name right now, Cooper on CNN, Descending of the Vanderbilt. Anderson Cooper. Yeah, Anderson Cooper, he's a Descending of the Vanderbilt. Of course he's straight and the people that come behind him are gonna be straight because of what Vanderbilt did or what Rockefeller did. And that's the thing, they got generational wealth and Trump descendants are gonna be the same way. And Michael Jordan descendants are gonna be the same way. And that's what I'm trying to create right now. So the thing what I'm trying to say guys is, get money and invest. That's all you gotta do, invest in yourself first and then take that money and make more investments. And that's what I do right now. I just don't believe, I was raised all my life Tony to be a victim and it's me and poor me and I can't make it because I was dealt a bad hand and I'm poor and it's no way I could change that. What I've learned is, it's really you. If you wouldn't have put the work in and do a little delayed gratification and invest anybody in this country can be rich. Nobody's gonna change my mind on that. All right, you're giving a great message. And I noticed you had mentioned this also. You will give this message. Now, when you talk about women, that message is received probably better than this message. How to pick up women, you mentioned that. In other words, where is the mindset rather than creating your purpose focuses on getting the woman. Why is that? The thing is Tony, we have all this testosterone running through our bodies. I've been young, I try not to get on the young guys like that cause I get it. I get it how it feels to walk around with a heart on 24 seven. I'm not that young. I'm not like that now. I'm still pretty good. Don't get me wrong, ladies. I can still hold my own, but I get how it is to be a 21, 22 year old guy with just six and have a heart on 24 seven. And that's all that consumes your mind. So the only way you're gonna break that is you're gonna have to learn how to get a, you know what, to be quite honest, to be quite honest, when you that young, it's just gonna be an ongoing battle every day. And I try to cut the guy some slack. It's easy for me to say now, 40 years old, I done been around the block a few times and I've had guys email me that too, said, AMS, you say all this now, but when you was 18, 19, 20, 21, could you say the same things? And I probably will honestly say, no, I get that. So the thing with that guys is that you got to learn how to try to control it as best you can. Your sex drive is gonna drive you. That's just the way it is to start from. I remember being 21. I remember being, well, I couldn't even think about nothing else but sex all day. I mean, just literally, it just consumes you. No matter what you, the whacking off and jerking off. And that's normal. That's normal. That's normal. And I mean, it just drives you. So I get that, it's mostly gonna be as older guys who've been around a block a few times to where we've learned to control it a little bit. And let's just be honest, I have to start showing it, ain't as high as it was when we was 21. So we can just manage it a little bit. What I advise for the guys that are 21, 22 right now, what I would advise for you is to primarily focus on making your life great right now, the women will be there. So if you make yourself great now, it'll be actually easier to attract women later. What you're doing now is you're not that valuable to win. If you're a 21 year old guy right now, you don't really have your stuff together right now. And you'll notice at that age, you know, I remember when I was 21, it seemed like you struggled hard mightily with women because you just getting into your own, you don't really have anything. And that's when women started getting real hypergamous at that age. And it just seems like it's harder. It was easier for me at 35 than it was at me at 21. And that's more just being more mature and having more, even though I ain't had that much, I had more than I had at 21. And so all that I would tell guys, not even guys who emailed me anything right now, I would say focus primarily on making yourself great because trying to tell guys a 21 year old to watch financial videos over how to attract women. It's just not, that's not being realistic. I just know it's not being realistic. That's gonna always beat up. So telling guys that when I know I've been 21 and obsessed with women. So the only thing I can tell guys is primarily just try to focus on making yourself great and put women on the back burner a little bit. Well, you do talk about pickup and game. And now again, when I first had gone to 21 a couple of years ago, after about the second day, I remember talking to my brother in the hotel room at night when I said, does anybody get laid here? Because there was a lot of focus on pickup. And then I've talked to Anthony Johnson about this in depth, I'm old school. Never thought it was an issue, never had an issue. So I think it is important, but I think a lot of it has to do with social media and a fatherless society. Nobody to guide it. My brother will say it. My grandfather was a player. My father was a player. It was inherent and I think that's, I still, I don't have any issues, never have. So it took me a while to understand why men are having issues. And I'm glad when I actually saw the pickup community and how to communicate with women, I'm like, well, obviously it's needed because it's growing so much. So I think that's important. Well, the thing was I was able to all sympathize with the guys who weren't like that. I got what they were saying. So I had my fair share of women growing up. And so, but when I'm talking to guys, I kind of always knew it had to be somebody on the other spectrum. So to speak that couldn't get, I just get women off of my looks primarily and playing basketball in school and stuff like that, football and school and stuff like that. But I always knew that it had to, if I'm six foot forward and consider good looking, then it's gotta be somebody that's not as good or as privileged as me. So when I started dealing with these guys first time, I'm dealing with guys that are 25 year old virgins, 26 year old virgins, I get it all the time. I get it all the time. I got a guy now that was 30 years old going through like a five year drought. It happens all the time. Just not confident around women. And he don't know how to get confident. He don't know how to get more easy. And so that's why I was like, just telling these guys to go up and talk to several women a day and stuff like that. That's not doing nothing. And even the self-improvement for these guys, it'll help them feel better about themselves. But when they get with a woman, what was wrong with these guys was they had no life. They had nothing interesting about them and they still was in scarcity. And that's when I came up and started telling guys, you know what, I don't even want you talking to women 30, 60 days or whatever. I want you to get your life in order. Cause you just, you just have nothing. You just work a school and that's it, Tony. It's video games. And that's, this is why you struggle with women because the video games is an excuse or out from you not talking to women. It's just, it's an ongoing thing. And so even if you gave them a woman, I could have introduced them to a woman. They would have loaded because they ain't scarcity. And the only way you're going to get out of scarcity is to create a lifestyle. And so that's why when I came into the game and I was telling guys what got me hot was, I was telling guys to lie to women. And guys took it too far. They didn't know what I was saying about that. And what I was saying about that was, you don't lie about your money, you don't lie. If you go out with these women and you are a virgin and she goes to action you things like, you know, when was your last relationship or how long did you date your last woman or whatever, whatever. I was saying, you better lie to create value. I said, and for guys that's like you or me, we would never have to do that. But for a guy that's a 26 year old virgin or something like that, I'm like, she's going to thank you wacko or she's going to thank you weirdo if you tell her that on a blank period. And a lot of guys didn't get what out. They took it too far. And they, oh, do I lie about this? I'm like, oh my God. It's like, it may be regret even saying it cause they just went too far over the board with it. And all I meant was if you're a guy and you're struggling with women and you haven't had a woman or you're a 30 year old virgin, you might don't want to admit to her that you never had a girlfriend. Now, let's, you know what? I agree with you there, man, for sure. Let's talk about, let's talk about direct approach. Now, I've noticed some controversy over the, over the internet about this here recently. And you had a really good point. Direct approach when I was growing up is okay. And I think there's different ways of doing a direct approach, letting a woman know that you do want to have sex with her. Whether you say, you know, I want to make love to you or just, you know, some women you can say, you know, hey, I just want to fuck your brains out. Now, to a guy that can't discern the woman, he's going to have a real problem with that. And nowadays I think it's a possible danger. And I do agree with you. I think you mentioned that one time to where you could get in trouble. So a guy that can't read a woman and comes off creepy, well, he could just be locked up. Well, the thing is, if you're going to do direct, I got, I could go on about direct approach all day. I got, I got right up. The thing with direct approach is this right here. To me, if you ask me what direct approach is, basically direct approach is I need you to like me physically for what you see right now. And I have no, I have no, what's the word? Confidence, I guess I'll use that word. Confidence in my ability to raise your interest with my verbal skills. That's how, when I interpret, so if I go up to a woman and she views me as a six and I can get the number, there's no way I can sleep with this woman right now. Matter of fact, I can't talk to her like that. If I talk to a girl who sees me as a six or five or six, perhaps even a seven, I'm going to turn her off with that being so direct like that because that's too soon. Cause I'm not that attractive to her. Of course, if she see a guy that's a nine and 10, he says that same thing, oh, well, it's fine. Because he's so hot to her. But if I say I'm a creep. And so if you go up to women that only have high interest in you and use it, it will work. I would promise you, I've seen women that gave me obvious high interest signs and you damn right, I use a direct approach. And I can tell that, oh man, I can sleep with her right now. And I came with a red direct approach. But women who don't view you as that attractive, you are going to have to raise their interest a little bit. And this is what a personality is going to come in at. So outside of the possibility of catching a charge, even if you read the woman correct, with the thing we live in now, it is very dangerous. But outside of that, let's just take that away. Let's just say hypothetically, I read the woman right. Well, now the issue I have is only women that find me extremely attractive are going to be receptive to me. If I meet women that see me as a five, six, or seven and I talk like that, I'm going to turn off. And that is a woman that I probably could have slept with on the second or third date, just getting her a little bit more comfortable. And then that, it's been women that I've dated that I said, okay, three dates, I haven't done anything, I'm out, I don't want to waste more time. Had I probably just gave it a couple more dates, I would have probably slept with them or whatever. Some women just take longer to get comfortable. Some women take longer to raise their interest or whatever the case may be. Every man has a time limit in his head on what he's willing to date a woman. But the main thing is that's the issue, the biggest issue I had with a direct approach. The girl I'm dating now, right here, I basically use a direct approach. And that's because she came hitting on me in the club. So I use basically a direct approach, not that night, but on the first night that we hung out, you know, I was like, let's go home and get butt naked in the bed or whatever. And I felt comfortable using that lingo because how she came on to me, how her attraction level was. I couldn't do that with, I can't say that to a girl. I'm getting her there, but she's not there yet. And so that's why I said, I think direct approach is effective in the right opportunity, at the right time. Cause I'ma tell you something, if you were the woman that's showing you those obvious signs and you don't use a direct approach, you could turn off. Because maybe that's all she want from you, is that? And if you go to trying to date her and stuff like that, you could turn her off by not being direct enough or she could think you're a wussy. So in that instance, what you were just saying about reading a woman, right? Reading her interest indicators is exactly right because if a woman is seeing those interest indicators and you don't act soon enough or you don't bring it up soon enough, you could turn her off because maybe that's all she's looking for. Or maybe she think, you know, you can't read women well or whatever. But you also gotta read it right with the women who don't have that high of interest in you. Cause if you come on too soon, you're gonna turn them off because they're just not there. And some women like that are gonna be like that regardless, even if they do see you as a nine or a 10, if they find you very attractive, that's still gonna be too much too soon because they're gonna start thinking that's all you want. So it's in those situations, I never looked at the way you said it like that, but you're exactly right. You gotta read the woman right as in what her interest level is. So I think that'll be a good way of phrasing it, Tony. Yeah, now another thing with high interest. Now, again, when I entered the Manisphere, I realized that I'm five foot seven and I shouldn't be meeting any women. And I have never had a problem. My brother will always say, hey, my brother Tony, he's six foot tall. He doesn't know he's five foot seven. So I've heard so many things that because I'm five foot seven, I shouldn't be meeting any women. Now you had, I had listened to one of your shows, I'm not sure, maybe it was from a year or so ago. And I just, I'll check out things randomly, but you were talking about a guy you knew in high school. Do you remember that? Great, great. Okay, yeah. And you were- I'll never forget him. Yeah, so tell me what happened with him because I'm like, okay, well- This is what I've seen, Tony. Some men can accept their insecurities or whatever they feel like it's a shortcoming. So like if a guy feels like, okay, I'm short. Okay, yeah. Women prefer taller men, but it won't stop me. Or yeah, I'm bald and maybe women like men with more hair or whatever, but it won't stop me. What I've seen in life is you have some men who can simply get past their insecurities and accept it or whatever they flaws or whatever they think their shortcomings is. And some men can't for whatever reason. And what I've been trying to teach guys is this right here. Yes, Tony is five foot seven. Is some women, if Tony gonna go up two, are they gonna disqualify him right off the bat because he's short? Absolutely. Is some women gonna disqualify me because I don't have any hair on my head? Absolutely. Is some women gonna disqualify me because they don't like facial hair? Absolutely. What I've learned is what guys have to understand. Attraction is about preferences and timing. And that's what a lot of guys don't- In other words, well with preferences, some women gonna like short, some women not gonna like short men, some women are. What Tony has accepted is that, you know what? Screw the ones that don't like short women, a short man. I'm gonna focus on the ones that don't mind. And that's what some guys can't get over that. And so they let two women reject them and they just go in their head and think, women don't like short men. And they just come up with this and they just make the generalization that women just do not like short men. Why you would have just accepted as in, hey, those two women don't like short men. And that's fine. Pretty much, yeah, I agree. I mean, it's never been an issue. It never even, it never entered my head until I entered the manosphere and videos. It never even was an issue. I'm like, well, it still doesn't bother me. Same thing with shaving my head. I've been shaving my head before it was cool. I noticed that when I was losing my hair, I'm like, yeah, I kept it short. Then I decided I was going to shave it. What a difference in women that now are attracted to me. I drew a whole different pile of women that absolutely loved the shaved head. I mean, I never ever, and it never bothered me that I lost hair ever. And the thing what you just said was, you never had a problem with it. So when you went up to women, they could feel that confidence that it didn't bother you. But the confidence came from you was you never saw an issue with it. You never had an issue with your height. The dude Dre was in school. He could attract more women than me. And I was like six foot, two, six foot, three. He was like maybe five, five. And this was like in the seventh and eighth grade. I still remember it because he was like girls would let him touch on them, touch on them, but they wouldn't let me. They would slap me and let him touch on them. He was half my size. And so I'm just like, I can sit up and tell you guys anybody that's watching this, that's bull. I sit up and watch their first hand. They wouldn't let him touch on me. I go to church and they'll slap me. Slap my hand away. So the point being, I can sit here and tell you, I know height don't really got nothing to do with it. Is some women gonna disqualify you because you're short? Yes, but that's no different than some women that are gonna like me because I'm black or like George because he's white. People have their preferences. Y'all guys gotta accept that. You have your purposes. Any guys watching this right now, it's certain women, do you date 300 pound women? No, do you date, it's whatever. You have your preferences also, but guess what? Some fat women are married. So they found somebody who didn't mind. And that's the same way you have to be. It's somebody who don't mind. Yes, whether you talk like me, country bumpkin or whatever, it's always gonna be something about you that somebody don't like. And that's fine. You have to just accept that and just move on and try to meet the women that like you for how you are. Okay, I'm glad you said that because I've told a lot of guys that, you know what, if she gets your dick card, that's great. And that's good for you, okay? I think a lot of teachings in the mannisfur are having guys only reach like nines or tens and some are unreachable. I mean, I don't even think a 10 exist. I think, I kind of agree with Andrew Tate. He believes that a 10 is like a movie star. That's considered a 10. So, but I think what's happening is there's a focus on you are only gonna get this kind of woman. And some guys, to be honest, just aren't going to get that woman. It's just not going to happen. And I'm not saying settle, but find what makes you happy and what you're attracted to. A lot of guys won't admit what they're attracted to. And I think that's an issue also. A lot of guys, not all, but a lot of guys won't admit what they're attracted to. I mean, I know what I'm attracted to and I have no issue with it. So I think that can be a problem. What I'll say is a 10 is, I think everybody, so I say whatever, whenever somebody say, well, what's a 10? I think I just put up a video the other day about attracting a 10 or something. And the guy in the comment said, well, what is a 10? And I said, whatever 10 is to you. I saw that video. Yeah, so when I go on Instagram, I see women that I would say is a 10. Tony might not say they're a 10. Tony might say, Scarlett Johansson is a 10, whatever. And that's the point. So when I say a 10, I just mean that's subjected to you, whatever's a 10 to you. So that's what I, whenever I say 10, no universal 10s, just whatever's a 10 to you. And as far as guys attracting the women that's out of a league and stuff like this right here, the funny thing is I never felt like a woman was out of my league. See on me either. If I got access to it, like I don't have access to a Beyonce or a, you know, Rihanna or something like that. So I don't have access to them. But if I was in a location, I would feel like, you know what? Let's see. So that's the thing with me. I never felt like, I just felt like even with those women, it boils down to timing. I believe like if you catch them, then when I say timing, guys are wondering what I mean by timing. That's what I mean by timing. You know how sometimes a family member can call you all friend and say, hey, you got a couple hundred books. You got a couple hundred books in your savings account. But, you know, you're like, I'm a little broke right now. I don't really have it. But if they can call you the very next week or so, another family member could call you next week and for whatever reason, you're in a good mood today. And you're like, sure, when you can pay me back. And that's when I tell guys when I say timing, one person asks you, no, you just like, no, I don't have it. And you got 200 grand in your bank account. You're like, no, I don't have it. And then the next week, another family member asks you not that you love this family member more than you love that family member. But for whatever reason today, whether the sun is shining on your ass or you got blow last night from your girlfriend or maybe you met a hot diamond tomorrow. Maybe your boss gave you a razor or whatever. Maybe you got a new contract or maybe just walk up on the right side of the bed for whatever reason, you're like, sure, when you can pay me back. And so that's the thing. It's just boys down two times. And I, I wasn't doing no, um, collapse for two years. And I just started back. All of a sudden, like a month ago, just in one, that's what I, that's what I seen. I say guys, it all boils down to timing. Everything is timing. So if you would have caught me for a month ago and you would have asked me, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't even respond to it. I was not even doing collapse for, I wouldn't, I hadn't done collapse for like two years up to like a month ago when I did another collab with our bulldog. And that was my first collab. And God knows how long I just wasn't doing them. I just like, I'm still him. I look on, I don't want to be bothered with nobody. And then I just came up with the mindset that I say, you know what, let's just do collapse this year. And I'm just like, I think this is maybe my fifth or sixth collab in like a month. Well, good, good. I'm glad I'm glad. You know what, I've noticed that too, because I just noticed you started talking with different people and I think that's good. Right. You have a good rapport with everybody. Right. And, and I think what it is, is everybody wants to hear what you have to say, which is important. Right. You know, I'm going to, I'm going to ask you a specific question. Okay. I want you to talk to a guy and there's a reason I'm asking you this, okay? Because I have two people that I know in my life. One was just blindsided by his wife that asked for a divorce. Okay. Now, he is a, he is a, he is a wealthy guy. Okay. He is a, he's a pretty good guy. And he was, he reached out to me, which is awesome. Right. So we're going to talk to him maybe this weekend, but I want, I want, I want, I want you to tell him what he can do. He was blindsided in a marriage. Okay. She wants a divorce. She got, you know, that I don't know about this marriage. Okay. Yeah. So what, what would you say to a guy like that? This is me. All right. So I lived with a girl and I had put the car in her name. I had no good credit. My whole life savings down on the car. Things wasn't going well. I was willing to walk away, even though I had put, in my scenes, small of my new to a lot of guys, guys got to understand. I put my whole life savings down on that car, but I didn't have a credit. My credit was like 500 or something. She had like a 700 credit score. And so I put the car in her name. When we broke up, I knew the car was going to go with her and I was willing to walk away. And that goes to my point with him. Whether he has a prenup or not, if you're unhappy in this, you have to be willing to take that loss and walk away. And I know that might sting a little bit. Obviously it would be better if you got a prenup, but if you don't, if she's, if this thing is not happy no more, you got to ask yourself, do I want to continue on with this for the next 20 or 30 years to protect my assets? Because there's no way you can tell me you're happy with this woman. And she, when a woman wants to leave, she purposely gets cold. It's not like she was walking around giving you blow jobs and stuff like this and all of a sudden she wanted to leave. No, she's been cold for a while. And quite frankly, she's probably been hoping you would do this before she had to come to do it. But since you won't do it, she's like, fuck it, I'll do it. She's probably been hoping to push you away. She's probably already sleeping with another guy. God knows whatever she's doing. So you're not happy because when a woman wants to leave, it's silent treatment, it's cold shoulder, it's back turn. So you're not happy. You're just there for either to protect you and keep your assets or to keep a woman because you don't want to get back on the dating scene. Even though you're wealthy, you don't want to get back on the dating scene because let's just be quite honest. Regardless of how good you are with women or whatever. The dating scene sucks. It's a lot of garbage out there. It's a lot of women that are not worth two cents to rub together. And so you probably just don't want to get back on the dating scene. Like you're comfortable with her. The same reason a lot of people don't want to leave jobs that they hate and stuff like this. Yeah, I don't want to venture into the unknown. At least I know her flaws and faults and stuff like that. So what I would tell you is, if you don't want to continue to live your life like that, be a man, I would just take the loss, whatever it is. I would just take the loss. My happiness is worth more than whatever little money I'm alluding is. And you can get it back again. Jeff Bezos already back to worlds richest man. So if you lose a lot of your money, Michael Jordan, he lost $137 million from his wife when he was only worth about 300 million. Now he's worth two billion. So if you got it once, you can get it again. You want to be happy in life. So you got to ask yourself if she might get the house. Is this house worth my happiness? Just think about that. Just think about that. Is this house worth my happiness? I'm not happy no more. I'm not happy no more. I know you can't be happy. When a woman wants to leave, they make it blatantly obvious. They are bitches on wheels. They purposely try to push you away. She's done everything she possibly could over the last two years, probably from trying to even go as far as emasculating you to push you away. That's how women are. That's how they do. They try to purposely push you away so you can be the bad person. You can be the bad guy and she's a good person. And when you don't call it quits after a while, after she done everything she can to possibly push you away. I don't have all this before Tony, by the way. I don't have all this. Yeah, I've been there once or twice myself. Right. And so I know he's not happy. Don't you want to be happy again? And that's what I would ask him. Is whatever you trying to protect, those acts that is this worth your happiness? Just think about it. It don't make sense. And so if it's me, I'm out. You can have the house. You can do all that. I'm out. I'll get it back again. I want to be happy. If that was me, that's what I'm doing today. Wow, yeah, that's some good advice. That's good advice. I did mention to him also not to, try not to speak to anybody that you don't need to speak to. Right. And definitely don't speak to any women about it. That was my second thing I told to him. So I think that was some good advice. That's some good advice. That's some good advice. Without, you know, talks, you know, I haven't spoken to him yet, but I'm going to speak to him probably tomorrow when we're this weekend. So I just, I know it's easier said than done, I know it's easier said than done, but that's what needs to happen. You got to cut your losses. How old is he, Tony? He's a little bit younger than me. So he's, I would say he's in his, he's probably in his early fifties. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes, I'm out. That's, do you still young? Yeah, I'm out of that. You're going to live the next 25, 30 years. Well, it ain't even up to you. She wants out. So, and this the thing with me, what I've learned from women, trying to talk to her, only laws of attraction more. Like women, women only respect strength and abundance. So anything like try to pacify her, like I've told guys, let's have a thing if you say, I'll say, Hey, let's try to get your wife back. Right? A man, only way a man can get respect from a woman is she know he has the ability to walk away. If you go beg her, you just kill any chance of her respecting you. Because the only way you can get a woman to cooperate and behave is her knowing you have no problem with walking away. And if you lose that weapon, if she knows you don't have the ability to walk away, you can't be with a woman. They're not fun to be around if they don't respect you. That's indifference, indifference. One foot out the door at all times. Right. That's the only thing that women respect. You see what I'm saying? The old school generation, they didn't know what we know now. They would put physical hands on women to gain respect because that's all they knew. Like our grandparents, with a woman's storyline, they put hands on them because they didn't know how. What we know now is that actually makes them respect you even less. They only respect what you said, indifference. The ability to walk away. So if I tell him that go back and try to get your wife, well, even if she came back, she's not gonna be fun. She's gonna emasculate you every point because now she has the power in the relationship because you have just show her, you don't have indifference. And so it don't work. So like I would tell him, she has to come back to you. You can't go talk to her because you're showing scarcity. Showing scarcity leads to women acting disrespectful in relationships and that women are not fun to be. You know, I hear a lot of guys say, why y'all guys don't, I tell guys I love female companionship and stuff like this. And I say, you know why you don't love female companionship? Cause you don't know how to get respect from them. You don't know what to do. Women aren't fun if they don't respect you. Your friends aren't fun if they don't respect you. Your kids aren't fun if they don't respect you. Nobody's fun if they don't respect you. When you have respect, if you're around your big brothers or something like that and they don't respect you, they'll be thumping you in your ear because they don't respect you. And they'll be mocking you and throwing little passive aggressive jokes out and stuff like that. And you'd be like, I hate my brothers, but you hate your brothers because they don't respect you. But if they respect you, you're like, I love my brothers because respect is a great thing. So with women, if a woman don't respect you, she's gonna be hell on wheels. So I would never tell him to go get her back or try to get her back. She has to come back. So the best thing with him as in raising attraction, if he, let's just hypothetically say he still loves her, even though she might've been giving him the cold shoulder the last six months or whatever, I would tell him your best chance to get this woman to fall back in love is to walk away. And you know what? I'm gonna tell you something. Had he walked away three months, four months ago and showed a difference, she probably would've pursued him. But when a woman treats you bad and you still don't walk away and you show her you don't have that power of indifference, what ends up happening is she lose all love and respect for you. So when she started treating him bad, giving him the cold shoulder, if he would've said, hey, you know what? This is not what I want. I want out of this relationship, I want out of this marriage. And he went on by his way, maybe a month or two later, she probably would've hit him back and the attraction would have grown because he showed, by you staying there to what she actually had to call that oath to what she had to bring it up, let's get a divorce. And you showed that much scarcity even though she knows she's been not wiping material and you still wouldn't leave to what she had to call the law. That's when you kill all attraction. I tell guys like this right here, when a woman starts acting up, you have to walk away. Cause what ends up happening is at some point she saw some weakness, right? She saw some weakness and she saw some, she thought Dablin like, I think this dude's in scarcity. I think he's afraid of losing me. And y'all guys gotta understand that goes straight to that pre-selection factors. You're not acting like a high value man with a lot of options. And that starts to turn her off towards you because you're not acting like a confident man at that point. You're acting like a man in scarcity. You're acting like a man that's not in abundance. That feels like, you know, this is the only woman that I can get. And me and have a tendency to fall into that. I've done it. That's how I know. Me and have a tendency to fall into this scarcity when they get in relationships and they start getting attached to a woman. Mines had got so bad when I was in a living relationship that I didn't even wanna go out no more with my friends or nothing. I was calling her wondering what she's at. Did you see what I'm saying? Yeah, how many times have we seen that? A guy gets his girlfriend, you never see him again. That was me. That was me. You're the girlfriend and all of a sudden I'm in the house with my girl and what ends up happening? You start to repel the woman after a while because that fun, exciting guy, I don't get to miss him no more. I don't get to wonder about no more. He's right here up under my ass 24-7. It's time to turn the woman off. So if any guy who's watching this right now and you got a woman that's uncooperative at home and been very disrespectful, your best cause of action to them, if you just wondering, what can I do to get her to cooperate or love me again? You have to show strength and tell her, hey, listen, if this don't get better, we're gonna call it quiz. And I know that goes counterproductive, intuitive to what a lot of guys think because they just think like, well, if I can just make it work, but women brains don't work that way. They don't expect strength in a guy that's in abundance. They don't respect talking or trying to sit down and talk about things. They only respect action. And so when you should act like a dude who's like, listen, I'm gonna walk away if things don't get better. That actually raises her attraction. And that's what he should have done. So now I've done got to a point to what he think is something he can say. There's nothing he can say. You know the best thing for him to say? I agree. I think we should get a divorce. And now she's looking like, holy shit, I thought he was a little pussy. Yeah, yeah. I thought he was a little pussy. And then she goes home and then a month or two attraction goes up, or maybe it doesn't. Maybe she remarries. Who knows? That's not the point. You don't do this because you're like, ha, I'm gonna raise her attraction. This is it. And you send it to the house for two months waiting on her to call your phone. No, you treat it as though she's gone. And you move on. You be sincere about it. You be sincere. And move on. Because guys gonna hear me say this and they're gonna break up with their girls and then they're gonna go home and look at their phone every day saying AMS said that she's gonna pursue me. And if I walk away, that's not why you do it. Cause maybe she doesn't. Maybe she moves on. And you have to be content with that. So if you plan on doing that as a game plan to raise her attraction back up again, just understand she might not come back. Yeah, that's good. That's great advice, man. That's good. I'm gonna talk to him this weekend. There's actually a couple of them in my life right now. A couple of friends that are going through the exact same thing. So, and it's funny cause it all hits hit at once. So this was perfect timing. Well, the thing is that they both around that 40 to 50 year old, right? So what happens is, what happens is guys at that age definitely don't want to get back on the dating scene. They're settled. They've got content in their lives. They like, I go to work. I come home. I have my wife who watch sign fail reruns or whatever go on and they're content in their life. Meanwhile, the woman's over here bored putting her fucking hair out. The guy thinks everything's going great. The woman's over here bored. Guys stop dating their wives. Guys stop bringing that physical intimacy or that sexual charisma to the relationship where it starts to feel like a roommate with a woman just like, this is pathetic. You know, guys bring all this sexual charisma at the beginning where they're on a date and they stare into their girl's eyes and they make these sexual seductive kisses and then they get complacent and now it's like roommates. And so I come home. No longer am I bringing that sexual charisma. No longer am I dating my girl. No longer do I know how to touch her and make her feel sexy again. What I've gotten into doing now is I've gotten comfortable. I'm farting around her. I don't dress up to make myself look sexy anymore. When we go out, she just sees me. I'm all the time I'm always in a t-shirt and pajama pants. I never put that nice suit on that I used to put on when we met and I used to take her out and we used to do all these romantic themes and we used to take trips. Now it's like a roommate. She cooks, I come home, she cooks, we eat, we watch TV and it's this dead boring routine. That's the thing with guys. So the thing with any guys watching this right now if you doing this, and I know you're doing it because I've done it, right? I did it. That's how I can simply tell y'all what not to do because I done all this. Where you get comfortable and you stop dating your girl, you stop looking into your woman's eyes, doing what you did on those first couple of days when you was trying to get in her pants and when you was trying to get her to fall in love with you. You stop bringing that sexual charisma. Your voice pitched and changed. You don't even try to talk sexy anymore. Everything's like, hey, like it's almost like you're talking to your buddy. It's like none of this sexual intensity going on. And this is the problem with guys lose with women and it's gonna keep happening. So I'm not surprised that you got a couple of guys. I'm surprised there's not more than that because there's always gonna happen because guys, the kings are getting comfortable. And now on the other hand, a woman could just be a slut too. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. But the thing is, this is, and I've always said this Tony, for any guys out there watching, I don't feel like a woman that is attached to you or chasing your validation will cheat on you or even see that guy. I've had girls that had me friends on back in my day, right? And they got guys that they got attached to and they basically told me that I couldn't call as much anymore or we couldn't talk as much as anymore. And we was just friends. And that's been my experience with women when a woman is attached. She won't even see another guy. It's when that attachment is broken that when she starts wandering around. So like, when I see this guy, if she was ever attached, because you say he got money, maybe she always viewed him as a beta male provider. And I don't think a woman can get attached to a beta male provider except attached to his money. I think only a woman can get attached to a guy she views as an alpha male. And like any guy who's familiar with me, I don't think it's no such thing as an alpha male. I don't think it's no such thing as a beta male. I think it's whatever you are, whatever you perceive yourself to be. If you perceive yourself to be a beta male, when you interact with a woman, you're gonna be talking about all the great things, monetarily you got going on. You're trying to sell how you can provide for her because that's how you see yourself as valuable. You don't see yourself as valuable as a human being. So when you interact with a woman, if you see yourself as a beta male provider, you're gonna be talking about your job, your car, things that you got going on because you're trying to sell yourself on being a provider opposed to the guy who views the amount of self as an alpha male. He's just using his sexual charm. He's not talking about, yeah, I'm doing this. And I wrote this book and I drive this car. He's just talking about generalization things that's going on in his life, not trying to impress her with his financial aspect. Also, regardless of how you feel yourself, still boils down to how the woman views you. So if a woman is not attractive to you, but she sees that you have your stuff together, she can use you as a beta male provider opposed to another woman who views you as very hot and she likes your personality. And whether you got anything or not, she just likes you to you. She views you as an alpha male. And like I tell you guys, every woman is not going to view me as an alpha male and some women view me as a beta male. And I can tell that because I have my, and for all the guys out there wondering, well, how the hell am I supposed to know whether a woman views me as an alpha male or a beta male? Listen to a conversation. When you see a woman that views you as a beta male, she's going to be asking a lot of high-pregumist questions because that's what she cares about. And when you were the woman that views you as an alpha male, she doesn't ask that. She asks about you, your interests and things like that because she's into you. So when I'm out with a woman that views me as a beta, a potential beta male provider, she's asking me a lot of things about monetarily and where I live. She wants to know all these type of things. She's trying to get a calculation on my network. So that's how you can tell guys, if you were the woman that views you as a beta male or an alpha male. That's good, man. That's really good. That's pretty intense. That's a, I think that's some real truth right there. And what I'm noticing you're doing too is you're really, really holding the man accountable. Yes. And the only way you can hold yourself accountable is by taking care of yourself, being a better man, doing those hobbies, all the things that makes you a better man. Well, the thing is Tony, like this, if I tell guys, if you choose to get with a woman that views you as a beta male provider, don't expect nothing different out of her. That's why I'm holding guys accountable and I tell them, if you get with a, I tell guys all the time, I run into women, I date women that can possibly view me as a beta male provider. If I go and fall in love with this woman, that's on me because I know better. You knew from the get-go she views you as a beta male provider. That's when I say I hold guys accountable because I knew from the get-go that that's what she views me for. I don't know this guy and I don't know what the woman, but a lot of times, even when I hear me talk, a lot of guys know what the issue is as in why a woman is with him and he'll talk about his financial aspect and because he knows that's what it's about. Well, don't be surprised if you get bitten a butt at the end because you knew what it was about from the get-go. And so that's when I say, I do hold me accountable in every aspect as in the attraction and also as in who you get with. If you go around here and you go get a girl that's super hot but she knows she views you as a beta male provider, she will cheat on you because she's not attached to you. So she's going to cheat on you with a guy she perceives as an alpha male. Point blank period, not get in a relationship with a woman that views you as a beta male provider. She is going to definitely cheat on you with the guy she views as an alpha male. That don't mean he's an alpha male. That means she views him as an alpha male. Another woman could view him as a beta male provider potentially. So that's the thing with guys have to understand. I don't believe in universal alpha males. I don't believe in universal beta males. I believe no matter who you is, there's some women out there that, in other words for the guys I don't wonder what I mean by that. There's some women out there that would date a Leonardo DiCaprio and sleep with him because they perceive him as an alpha male. And there'll be other women that'll sleep with him because they're like, he can help my career. So, and that is providing. So that is the issue. Now it's up to Leonardo DiCaprio if he falls in love with this woman who's only with him for bettering her career, maybe she can advance his career or something like that. He can advance her career. That's up to him that he falls in love with this type of woman because she's the most beautiful is woman he dated. And now he's falling in love. And now she's like, I don't wanna be with this guy. I just wanted to further my career. And he's the shop. Like I tell guys that can happen to anybody regardless of your Leonardo DiCaprio, Drake, AMS, Tony, whoever. If you go get with women who view you as a beta male provider, don't be looking crazy when things don't work out on your end. Yeah, I like how you put that. You know, I've never really heard it put like that the way you describe that. It's not that you are now for your beta, but it's how a woman views you. Right, there's no universal. There's no universal. And it's the thing what I tell guys, and guys, my old saying is, any guys who follow me, we fucked them hoes too. So I fuck women that view me as a beta male provider. I just don't get in a relationship with them. That don't mean I won't sleep with them. So we sleep with them too. So I tell guys that all the time that I like to use, I affectionately use women, hypergamous nature against them. And any guy who watched my while I'm against the mid-tile video, that's exactly what I was talking about. I don't bitch and complain. Oh, this woman's with me because I got a nice car. I just said, I don't worry about it. I'm not trying to wife her up. Okay, if you want to be a girl and you out here chasing God because he got a nice car, okay, fine. The same way a woman use your sexual needs and desires against you. Okay, two can play that game. So that is my model and what I use. No, no, I get it. Yeah, that's great. Now another thing you are, you're gonna be one of the speakers at 21 convention. So have you thought about a topic or I don't need to give it up now, but I'm just curious on- I'm gonna see how much time I got. I'm gonna have like 50 talking. I'm gonna see how much time he gives me because as you can see tonight, I can just ramble on. Oh, that's all right, that's all right. I'm gonna write down 50 talking points that I wanna cover and then I'm gonna obviously put the top 10 or 15 that I definitely, my talking points that I wanna go over that I think is the most important as in what I teach. And so I'll do that. Obviously I wanna touch on purpose. There's a lot of stuff I wanna talk about. I can write 100 talking points, right? But I just wanna, I'll see how much time he gives me on stage to talk or whatever. But I can- Okay, cause there's a, there's quite a buzz about you being there. I think that's great. Anybody watching this, I'm gonna have a link down below for 21 convention tickets. So you can come and see Alfa Mail Strategies AMS. Let's wrap this up, man. I really, really appreciate your time. Thank you, bro. I think this was a great talk and I'm sure it's gonna help out a ton of men. Thank you, bro. Again, Alfa Mail Strategies, tell everybody how they can find you. Yes, anybody looking for a consultation, you can on alfa mail strategies.com. Also you can follow me on Instagram at alfa mail underscore mail underscore s. Okay, awesome. And they can see at 21 coming up. And the 21 convention October the 4th, right? Yeah, I think it's the 1st through the 4th. 1st through the 4th, yeah, I'll be there. Yeah, yeah. I'm excited about that too. I can't wait to see you up on stage. Yeah. You're up there with some big hitters, but you're one of them, that's for sure. Thank you, brother. All right, well, I appreciate your time and maybe we can do this again sometime. Yeah, no problem, Tony. All right, thank you very much, sir. And you have a good evening. Thank you.