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It's a dog For any criticism anybody has of his acting it immediately goes right over there in the corner and takes a nice little nap When you watch what he can do in an action film What can you do if there's no one in cinema anywhere in the world that is a better Commander of a firearm in real life like who has mastery over firearms Keanu is king without question You see what he can do with in Real-life footage of what that guy everything John Wick does with those firearms Keanu does with real firearms. He does not shoot people in the face every day. You know who he shoots in the face Up at he background actors as you should I Guess today we have a video. This is Amir Khan on why we can't make a film like Inception So this is from many many years ago, but I'm guessing it's he is talking in this club about Unless the title is misleading, of course, which has happened. Yes Why India I guess can't make a film like Inception So this obviously came out around the time that inception is he throwing down the proverbial gauntlet or is he really? Minimizing the potential of India with that statement. I want to know I guess we'll find out in the clip. Oh, how dare he I Would ask this question of anyone else, but I'd like to know what you think really You know, we go into a collective gas for a film like Inception. It's a film that challenges its audience It's a film that almost forces you to keep up with the film In contrary, Bollywood tends to dumb down to reach out words like mindless entertainers Phrases like you have to leave your brains behind when you go to watch this film are very commonly used Will we ever make a film like Inception? First of all, I would say that I think Hollywood is far ahead of the rest of the world Certainly India Let me not comment about the rest of it. I'm not sure what was this 10 years. Okay ahead of India in its ability to tell stories well and in its In its freedom to pick topics which are bizarre sometimes, you know, you know Unimaginable topics is what they pick up right dream within a dream within a dream, you know How to convey that tell that to the Malayalam industry that oh, yeah now they believe that this is actually happening So this fantasy of a larger-than-life storytelling is something that I believe Hollywood does really well. Sure I think technically and Even in their headspace, they're far ahead of us. They're able to do things that They're able to do anything that they imagine right and we are able to imagine only So first you have to imagine we have to be free enough to imagine things I also have that the money for it as well And which are you know and then we can try and get there to execute it So so when I watched him like Inception or you watch a film like, you know So many of them that you you feel that wow, you know I really as an audience sit back and I say we have a long way to go before we catch up with them Yeah, that's the truth. That's what I believe So so having said that I also believe that You must understand that we in our circumstances are making films for our audiences And that is also a truth. Yeah, very important You know, I I I would Also want to say that there are a lot of films made in Hollywood Which are also dumbed down of course. Yes, and they are you know for yes, you know, oh that happens everywhere I think that's their true in Hollywood. That's true. We are as well And the fact is that at the end of the day, we have a large and healthy audience of our own of our own, right? And our primary responsibility And our excitement at least mine Emotionally as well is to reach out to that audience, right? So that's what I enjoy doing And within that I think that Let me not speak about others But within that I think when I come across topics which are challenging at least in our Circumstances and the film like people you like or a film like the big art or a film like that is a meeper are not your general fare of sure mainstream cinema Lagann wasn't so all of these things around a in its screenplay the jumps, you know It's not linear in its storytelling a lot of people before the release said will people understand, you know so all of that happened, but I think that I Think that we are taking baby steps towards that But the key to that I think is that we need to be more free That's creative people in our heads imagine You know, it's like that share of I forget the poet's name He's a Hindi poet. Hey, hey, let's share is key. Who says that Asmaan may change the name A path at the top of your head. Oh, yeah So feel free to, you know, imagine and and aim, you know, higher than you imagine that people imagine that you can That is one and two I think that we don't give enough value to our writing we don't give enough value to our writers So and I think that's a big thing that we need to look at as a film industry We need to give much more value in every way. Okay, emotionally creatively and Economically sure we need to give much more value to our writers and to the craft of writing Okay for us to really have great scripts being written and you know, I believe that okay mmm Very interesting. Yeah, because obviously this is 10 plus years ago. It's probably whenever inception came out. So that's probably wrong. Oh no longer than that longer than that You think when inception came out. So this film might be even old this clip might be even older Yeah, no inception. You'll be you're gonna be shocked at when inception came out That's not that long ago. It's 2010. So it's 13 years 13 years ago So this is probably around that time right is when this clip came out and probably why they're talking about the inception in this club Well, it was a and I think in years You could argue India has made enormous Strides, I mean just obviously with what came out last year or or Has yeah, just could have very well been nominated for an Oscar that as the entire film if it would have been sent And I think deserved a best picture now in the best picture category but in terms of VFX alone just in terms of VFX right but also in terms of like what audiences expect now Yeah, I think in India. I think you've seen even though It has to be at a certain level They they don't just go for stars, right, right They obviously well, I think India wants grandeur in their scale in terms of if they're gonna support at the box office Yeah, that's for sure, but also I think their expectations for the writing has changed from 13 years ago It has and and I would have to go back and look and make sure about the timing of certain films but they India If you're making a comparison to Inception, that's a very particular kind of film and one of the things Nolan it is It's Christopher Nolan and it's it's it's very psychological yeah, so like I'm not totally convinced That India was so far behind they were with CGI and have come right up to speed But when we first started reacting to some things the initial movies we saw right out the gate One of the reasons we like them so much is because the screenwriting was so good I mean gully boy is good because gully boy is a very well-written well-directed and well-acted film But granted that was three years ago, right? But with then we jumped into some of the films that were a little bit older and if you really want to I mean So what? Inception was 2010 Gangs of Wasiper was 2012 Pretty damn good writing So great comparatively I would say absolutely I think this growth and progression I think he's also talking about not only obviously the complexity of the story But how it did at the box off. Yeah, so like Gangs of Wasper Like I can almost guarantee wasn't like a financial success No, it became more of a cult thing and people realized how great it was As opposed to Inception one of the biggest films of all time exactly and a huge huge difference very different kind of scale of particularly for Indian cinema a huge difference between Indian cinema Hindi cinema in particular and Hollywood And a lot of the international community is when he mentioned the audience Back then ten years ago the thought of making some changes to the storytelling is a tectonic plate shift to do to the Indian audience based on decades of conditioning and expectation of what they're accustomed to One of the reasons you could make Inception here and have it be so well received is because we already had Decades of filmmaking that allowed you to tell stories like that Versus you're now taking this giant monolith and trying to make it shift a bit and not knee-jerk your audience Yeah, of course, you're gonna be a little bit. There's they're still trying to to get past that but granted I think he also said it was very true India Still and as always made films for their audience. Yeah, not to Expand into the West no, which are It didn't intend to have the impact on the West that it had they he said repeatedly I never expected the West to relate to my film, right? I didn't think they could actually as I think what he said No, it just obviously the West is very open Especially the film community is very open to different cultures In different styles of filmmaking and it was very different to what a lot of people here were accustomed to yes Especially in terms of the action Part of the film and how they told their stories. Yeah And so I think one of the things that has improved greatly is the VFX and the fact that they'd questionably Because I think a lot of people can accept different styles of storytelling Korean Chinese Japanese. Yes, India They can accept different time in different cultures a lot of times a lot that will is something for Especially when the West to overlook is bad VFX It's because it takes you out immediately because our VFX have been top-notch for so long decades now Yeah, it's it's been because obviously we put millions upon millions of dollars in But the fact that they don't have to do that now no, but I think the storytelling in India is equal I mean you look at the Malayalam industry and it it's probably Farther along honestly, especially the Malayalam industry. Oh my goodness, but even last year what you had in the Hindi industry and It was a kala. Yeah, and that's a very complex story very complex story You want to talk about storytelling just see LJP's new movie man. Yeah, right? That's that's Nolan level Yeah, a storytelling. I agree But I think one of the big challenges that that is current right now And it's always that way for me is Artists just don't fixate on box office because because because I give you an analogy At its core theater whether it's live theater or movie theater theater is storytelling There's all kinds of stories to tell and storytelling at its core is teaching If you have kids coming to your school and your primary concern is how much money you're making at the school versus the kind of Education you're giving to the kids you've missed the purpose of your educating them And that's how I feel about people who fixate on box office so much. Yes, you need money to run your school You need money for the industry, but your primary thought should be what are the things I'm giving and not everybody's gonna be doing the same thing You will have for example when I taught in a school. I taught theater, but I also taught rhetoric Occasionally I taught some history. I would have never been found anywhere near math classes, but you need them So there are filmmakers who make the math classes. There are filmmakers who make the history classes There are filmmakers who make the gym class. They're all needed But the purpose of that is to be organic and telling the stories that you want to tell because they're important to the human experience Not just hey, let's offer a class. That's gonna get us more students and make us a lot of money Because then the artistry suffers Disney Yeah It's not They're in that category right now. They are and it's why they're making cuts even though they make billions of dollars They're making a lot of cuts right now. Yeah, yeah when you make subpar stuff And yeah, just expect people to get and get in the seats No, and you just expect every movie you make you're gonna get an Oscar No, it's not not happening and people aren't just gonna come the reason they were so good is because at the core of Disney films There's always been story comes especially talking about Marvel, right? Yeah Oh, yeah, I mean Marvel's lost their mind and what they're doing right now Yeah, but even Star Wars obviously what they've watered it down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Anyways Very interesting. Yeah, I love what he thinks now. I bet his thoughts are very different about Indian cinema than they were a decade ago as far as keeping up with Hollywood similar in some ways and Different in other ways. I think you would probably echo what we said, but I think he also Especially with how what happened with L'Alting Chata in terms of what audiences are expecting now Yeah, but that that is just the audience aspect of it when it comes to the filmmaking when it comes to the writing the acting the special effects There's Indian cinema and American cinema are equal especially Malayalam is there's there's there's no ones ahead of each other at this point I mean Malayalam might be ahead of everyone honestly they're just so good and One of my favorite part about Malayalam is they just don't care. They're like, yeah, this is what I'm gonna make and you're gonna watch it Aren't you? Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I am. You're right Anyways fantastic very intriguing. This is this is stuff that you could make a whole podcast. Yeah, you really could have a discussion about Anyways, let us know what you thought about it in your opinions down below