 But the E-Circuit, the only way to turn up your weekend. Of course, you're enjoying the mixes by DJ Lil Russian, but you can still send in your request to Y244Channel or the E-Circuit on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Now, in the morning, we had an interesting conversation. We were talking about Xs. Now, after you break up, should you go back for your gifts? That was the question. And there's a long name and a long paragraph following the comment on our Facebook page. I'm going to try and attempt to read this. His name is Omega Boba Getutu, Thomas Ondari. OK. Now, yeah, I understand. He's watching from Gekano Nyamira County. Nama Penzi Waake, Emma Ozard. Oh, it's a couple of things. Good. I like to see E-Circuit connecting people. Nice. So him, he's saying, taking back gifts that once you bought for your girlfriend is a sign of immaturity. Come on, you need to forget and move on. I think I agree with him. You always agree. I agree with him. Yeah, we'll always side with a boy child. I will take my stuff. You will take your stuff. Yes, I will take my stuff. So, sir, boy child. And they're likely to take care. You know what to do, 1-2-5-4-4-Channel or the E-Circuit on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. The question is, would you take back your gifts after breaking up with your girlfriend or boyfriend for that matter? Because she's saying she would take it back. Our first interview is a really talented guy. I'm a quacky, make some waves over the internet because of his new tracks. Like any of have a few questions for him because he's been doing a lot of things. He's doing hip-hop, R&B. And now it's like Raga Raga. I'm talking about Moulds. Welcome to the E-Circuit. Thank you for having me. So Moulds, you started music in the choir. That's interesting for me because I was watching your video, 60 Minutes. You know, that's a big... It's a big lip. Well, I'd like to believe that music is not generally leaning towards religion or anything. Good music is good music, you feel me? So, I'm singing about women or society. At the end of the day, good music is good music. Good music is still good music. So, if I rap, if I sing about anything, as long as it comes from the heart, I believe it's where it's supposed to be. Tell me how that lip happened, first of all. Because now you're there in the choir. Obviously, you had the talent and you had the curiosity for music because afterward, you went to music production school. So it was always within you. But from the choir to now, doing secular music, tell me about that jump, like your first track, the inspiration behind it. Well, it wasn't really a leap from gospel to secular for me. I just felt like I was just moving along a line. There's a lot of pilot lines. I don't like to get them blurred. But I hung out with a lot of friends who listened to hip-hop music. And we grew up on hip-hop. We grew up on Kina Issa and all that. So I felt like I could do something like that. Like I felt like I should toss my heart in the ring and try my chance, because I love gospel, Pia. And then when I compare the gospel artists to what they do, or not all of them. Their behaviors with regard to their music, I make an understanding of that. I wouldn't like to be associated like that because that would be hypocrisy. So I don't have the freedom and bandwidth. To do exactly what you want. If I want to sing about God, I will at my own time. If I want to sing about everything else, I will at my own time. If you're feeling inclined to do that. Yes, exactly. I'm stuck to one side, but behind the scenes, I'm out here running the streets and everything. Can I ask you something first of all? Like when I think about people like Willie Palms, I think. You know, he's been under a magnifying glass for quite a long time. Because him, he was like a gospel artist. Sitalia and all that, he started out. Then now he's like a secular artist. I don't really understand. He's calling it love music. Yeah, stop it. You know, I'm trying to think. What do you think about that situation? Is that what you're referring to? Well, I don't really know the man. So I see that Ilya about his craft. But I'm just saying if you're standing for something, like if you're standing for that, I believe that you should stick with it instead of giving people mixed ideas. That's all I gotta say. Ah, interesting. So now, okay, music production school. It wasn't a leap, it was more of a, you know, following the line. Tell me about your first track. My first track, like the first track we recorded, I recorded with my homies, Paleto Nyumbani. We had a laptop to later call Nassimu. Ah, really? Yeah, it was crazy. So we recorded this track. It's called, You Don't Love Me. You Don't Love Me? No, it was crazy. So why you, because a very fun fact, like I said, the beginning of the interview moves, aka Hingamuni, is a hippo artist. He's a rapper and a singer. So he's really talented. So was this, were you singing on your first track or were you rapping? The first verse was me rapping, then the hook was me singing. Then second verse was my homie, he moved. His name is Village Villain. Village Villain. Village Villain. Oh, okay. Crazy lyricist. We did the track, we loved it. So we were like, oh man, so we can actually do this. We should actually try harder and invest more in equipment so that we can make our sound more professional. And we moved step by step and this is where we are now. So you started a studio with Village Villain. Yeah, we bought a couple of equipment, set up a home studio. We tried and I guess it worked. There's a new track, it's not really new, but I think one of the giants in the hip hop community right now in Kenya, Calligraph Jones, was bumping to it. How did that feel to get that recognition and acceptance into the hip hop community? It felt awesome, it was amazing. I mean, I never thought I'd be in a place and you know, I'd appreciate it when I'm to Calligraph Jones and everything. And he called me up and he shadowed me out and he was like, yo, this is dope, we gotta do something. Is there a collaboration in the works between you and him? I'll let you know about that. You gotta tell us. I'll let you know. You'll be the first person to know, trust me. Okay, we'll be anticipating it because like I told you I love every song that you've done so far, but I also enjoy the way you're not sticking to one genre because you've been doing hip hop, R&B and now your new track. Is it dance or dance or lish? It's dance or lish. Yeah, it's R&B, dance or lish. So when I say moves and someone wants to, you know, target a genre to you, what would you say? I'd say rapper. Most of my songs have been, there's more rap than singing in my whatever. So I've done a couple of mixtapes. I've done like six so far. That's 100 songs plus. And most of them are rapping. It's Zile Sosozeninimimba. So that's where you're gravitating towards? Not really, because I've seen, like my fans like it more when I sing than when I rap. So I'm just going to give them what they want. But what do you want? What are you shaping for us in 2019? Let me just ask that. More good music. More good music, it should be a lawyer. Yeah, I know. I can see you snaking away from the question. He's like, I want to sing, I don't want to sing. Which one is which? Good music, that's all. It could be rap, it could be singing. As long as it's good. And so be it. We're going to play the new track from Moons. And I'm going to encourage you to go to his YouTube channel and subscribe because he has, you know, like some really dope music. That's our Moons. Or can they search for Hingamuni as well? Or they can just find out his Moons profile. Is Moons Moony all across the world? Moons Moony everywhere. But before that, I want to talk about the production part because I think that's an interesting part to, you know, dive into. Now, with regard to the genres and the different calibre of gospel musicians we have in Kenya, who would you not work with? Not work with. Yes. That's a tricky question. Because if we're being honest, the more I talk to you, the more I understand there's a certain brand and a certain sound that you're after. And that there are certain people you don't want to be associated with. I wouldn't say not associated with. You know, at the end of the day, always mix oil and maggi. So who would you not work with? Well, there's still yet to be none. Honestly, because I feel like if something you don't want to work with, then why not? I mean, we can work together on anything. See, you don't want to say, oh, I can't work with this person now. I'm not. But it's a part of that particular type of person. Hopefully, I won't find one. Yeah, but everybody out there is, you know, everybody who is on the limelight and everything, doing their thing, they're good. Is there any plan for expansion? I know Village Villain, you told me he traveled. Yeah, he traveled. So is there like a partner that you want to partner with and a plan for expansion? Partner that I want to partner with. In terms of creating that music studio and making it big. Well, I am investing my own money into that. So all these performances and everything. You know, I'm also looking for investors. So if anybody's out there and you want to support a young artist, please do. But at the end of the day, I won't depend on someone else to support my dream. At the end of the day, I have to work hard for myself. So, you know, at the end of the day, if anybody wants to help out and feels like this is a just cause, please, you can chip in. You know where to find me. Moves money everywhere. Moves money everywhere. Does it make it easier being a producer as well to expand your sound the way you've done hip-hop, R&B, and now Raga? Does it make it easier? It makes it easier because I always go a dope artist without having a dope producer. When you are your own producer, you know exactly what you need to sound like. You know exactly what you want to sound like. So, I mean, if I wake up and I feel that's how I want that song to sound. I go down a couple of lines, make the beat, and then it comes out beautiful. You know, you immediately understand. Who's your favorite beach creator in Kenya right now? In Kenya. A.B.H. Studios, Braio. He makes dope beats. Al-Feezo. Al-Feezo. I don't know. I think Rico Beats. Rico Beats. I knew you'd say Rico Beats. Everybody says Rico Beats. Everybody says Rico Beats. I mean, he's dope. He is dope. Are you going to work with him in the future? Probably. I have a Rico Beats beat. I want to jump on it. Okay. So, when I drop it, you know, I hope you let me back here. Release it. This is your home. I'm with a guest. That's what I always tell my guests. Thank you. So, welcome back. Tell us more about this song before we premiere it. I wrote what it did in 2017. But I didn't have the funds to do a video. Okay. So, we shelved it. And, you know, it took a while for me to come back to it because the funds were like, yo, we need a video for this track. And it was a lot of work I had to be put in because I had to find a job so that I could support that whole dream thing because everybody knows, like, as an artist in Kenya, I smoke when I'm placing, you know, I don't have money. So, I found, okay, I didn't find him, but I linked up with my friend, Jijo Drambit. He's in charge of the video. He made a really dope video. Okay. So, we linked up. We brainstormed, came up with the concept and executed it. And as of January this year, we shot the video and released it. That's it. So, nearly released last week, Friday. It's awesome. Can't wait for you guys to hear it. As you heard, it's Moe's money everywhere. That's Moe with an M-U-N-I. And Moe's is M-U-L-L-Z. So, you can find them everywhere on every social media platform, but especially YouTube. Make sure you subscribe and support this uprising talent because you're very talented. Thank you very much. And we wish you nothing but the best. So, this is Moe's money.