 Welcome back. Again, this is still why in the morning and you are rightly tuned in because you are on time for a very great conversation around health. I said we don't have health today but who are we? Yeah, we have something great for you. We will be talking about the weight loss journey, the natural way. And for that we are joined by Dr. Nellie Courier who is a professional nutritionist with over 20 years of experience. So Dr. Nellie, welcome. Thank you. Glad to have you with us. Good to see you and good to be here. I'm so humbled being here. Ah, amazing. So tell us what exactly you do. I've just mentioned it in passing so you can give us details of what you do. Okay, we have different kind of treatment that you're offering. As in, we'll deal with people who want to cut down on their weight. People who are obese or people who are not obese, but they have problem areas like for women, the tummy, the bicep, the tars behind the thighs. For guys, just the tummy, the love handles and some have developed boobs because of being big. Have you ever noticed that on them? Yes, yes. So of course we will get into all of that. Sure. Yeah, we must tell us what is the ideal weight talking of people who are obese. You know, it's easy to assume that the big people are the one who are obese. Is it obese of, yeah? Which ever. Yeah. So it is easy to assume it's only the big people who are obese. So how exactly should one know? Okay, now you don't have to be obese because like you can be very tiny like the way you are, you're very tiny. Yes. But being tiny and you have a big tummy, it's an issue. Yes. You are tiny, but you have a problem on your tummy. Is it an issue? I'm just assuming. I'm not saying that you have it. No, no. Okay, yeah. I'm asking, is it an issue, a health issue or is it an issue just, you know, on a personal level with the person? It's a health issue as well. You lose even your extreme. As in you don't feel good. Like now you see the way you are dressed, you're looking very nice. But imagine, you are telling me being big. You can be comfortable. You can be comfortable. And you'll find that most women, they are ever on bell, slimming bell that they have to put in so that they can try to hold their tummy, which is very uncomfortable. Yes. So, okay, so you're solving that. Yes. And now for, what is the ideal weight for someone to have? Depend on how tall you are. Yes, because if they are tall, these, you should be, okay, like personality. I'm tall, yes. I weigh 60. You will find someone of my height weighing a hundred and something or someone of my height weighing 80 something. So it depends on your height and your weight. So once I check on how tall you are, I'll be able to know how many kilos that you should be. Though I have a weighing machine that when you step on it, it will show me how you are as in your height, your weight, your water taking, whether you do take water or whether you don't take water. It will show me your BMI. It will show me your age that is depending on your height. I mean, depending on your weight, you should be this weight. So you might find that you are, you're just a young person, but the weight that you have is for someone who is over 50 yet, you are 30 something. So you see, once you are big, you tend to look more older than your age. So do you advise that people have regular checks with their nutritionists to just know their BMI and where they stand at? No, the thing is, okay, you see Kenyans were just funny, we're just there. Kenyans were just funny, we're just there. Most people don't think of that till the time that they notice they are having some health issues because of the fat deposit that they have already accumulated. That is the way Kenyans are. We don't care. And you see, it's not like, it's not like long time back where you felt that when you are big, you are rich. It's no longer status. So when you have a big tummy, you see, before we used to see when you are big, you have a lot of money. It's no longer status. So once you're very big, you'll be having some terminal illness. And then you can even, you can even die before your age, because now the terminal illness that you're going to have, it's because of the fat deposit on the torso areas. That is where you have some people who are having diabetic, some people who have pressure, some people get stroke, some cancers come because of the fat deposit. Yes, all that. So these are the some of the illnesses associated with excess weight? Sure. Okay. So what are the problems that you have come across and the problems that you're solving for women? Let's start with women before we get to the men. So for women, for us women, let me say, we have most problems over most areas that we have which we are so much concerned. It's our tummy. You'll find someone having a very big bicep, as in when you're saying bye. Flubby, flubby. Yes, yes, bicep. And the thighs and some people have tabochin. And the thighs behind. You might find that someone is sitting down, yet the tummy has fallen here. It's so uncomfortable. Very. It's so uncomfortable. Even when you're using a mat, when you want to get in, you'll be told, oh, the mat is only for one person. So they tend to see you like you are two people, yet you're just one person. And this affects your self-esteem in the long run. Sure, sure, sure. So how do you deal with such cases? Someone coming with, you know, the flubby biceps and the tummy? Okay. Once the client gets to our clinic, we have to take your measurement in choice and retoils. And as I've said, you step on the wing scale for me to know all that I need to know. So once we take your measurement, there's a solution. No, once the client comes, there's a health questionnaire that you have to fill in. So once I go through the health questionnaire, I'll be able to know whether you have any health issues for me to know how I'll handle you up. So once I've done all that, I'll take the measurement in choice and retoils. These are, these are solution, just natural solution from the Dead Sea that will apply on the problem areas. That's the tummy that has behind the bicep, the thighs and the chin. So the solution will help to open up your clogged pores. Because you find that, and if I step on you, I'm sorry, you'll find like in the morning, you just oil yourself the whole body. It's not necessary. The body has its own oil. So we know this is new. The body has its own oil. So it's not a rush for someone to oil themselves. No, you can oil yourself as in from here down and from here up to here. But the body has, the body has got its own oil. Personally, I don't oil myself. The body has its own oil. The men are safe because you really get to men. No, no, there's their kind of, yeah, they do, but it's not necessary. Okay. It's not necessary. So once, once, once, once we apply the solution, it will open up your clogged pores. So any water retention or any toxins that you have in the body will come out when the pores are opened. After applying the solution, we'll tie you up like an Egyptian mummy. Okay. So we'll mummify you. It's not, it's not scary. I'm trying to get the picture. It's not scary. So we'll mummify you. So the bandages, there are special bandages that will help to contour or to shape up the body in that you can get back to your shape. Because some people, when they lose weight, they, the body shape changes completely. Yes, of course, yes. Okay. So this helps with maintaining the body shape. The shape, yes. So once we apply the solution, we'll mummify you. The mummification or the bandages will help to shape up your body or to contour the body in that you'll get back to your shape. This is a journey. Don't come with an expectation of a single day, a single day of flat you. We have to be very realistic. A zine, however you are, it just didn't happen within a day. It has taken you time to be the person that you are. So don't come with an expectation of a single day of flat you. So this is a journey. So once we do the mummification, I'll expect you to be losing, to lose from 8 to 16 inches instantly. A zine, within the, within the two hours that you'll be with me, at least you can be able to fit well on an outfit that can fit you well. And within the two hours, for a guy, you can be able to button on a shirt that can't button. It's so amazing. In two hours. Yes, yes. It's so amazing. Okay, it sounds a bit, you know, out of this world, but okay, so you have had, you have had testimonies and people coming. There are many. Actually, if my clients knew that I was coming here, I guess they can call and say, I mean, they give out testimonies, but people are doing very well. Okay. So like, in case you want to go for a wedding and you have an outfit that can't fit you, and this treatment, it's not water retention. Actually, I'll advise you to take plenty, plenty of water so that you can keep on flashing out the toxins. Okay. Then for the three days, the treatment will still continue working on you even after. So I'll advise you to take plenty, plenty of water, though I won't let you shower with soap because you're going to clog the pores again. So you just shower with water only? With water only. All right. I'm doing some budget. It's a bit difficult. So you'll shower but no soap and no lotion, as I've said, because you're going to clog back the pores that have already been opened. So now this is one type of treatment or it applies to, you know, every other situation? No, that's just one treatment. The first session, as in, like now you'll find that when people go, as in, before we do the treatment to break down the fat deposit, you need to detoxify. And that is the reason why you go to the gym. When you step on the scale, you are not motivated because you'll find that you are still ballooning, yet you've been working very hard. So you have to detoxify in a natural way before you do anything else. Because there is nowhere you can go to the gym, yet you still retain your toxins. You have to detoxify. So how does one detoxify? Now this treatment of the, of the, of, of modifying, open up your clogged pores. Toxins that you have will be coming out. Yes. It's, you detoxify in a natural way. Detoxify in a natural way. And that's how you conduct your treatment in the natural way. Yes, yes, yes. And how is that, why is that important or you know, why is that important to that? You know, going for surgery because some people opt to go for surgery for weight loss to remove fat and everything. Okay, what I'll say, even if you go for a surgery, one thing is you'll still put on, it doesn't matter. You didn't gain your weight in a day so that you want it to go in a day. This should be a journey and you won't be left with any scar. And it's something that you'll be able to maintain because once you do it in a natural way and you are being guided on how you are meant to have your food, you'll be able to maintain it. It's very easy and it's forever. You'll never put on again. Okay. Yes. Okay, that sounds very interesting. And now you said it's a journey. Yes, it is. But for someone come, you know, who wants to just reduce some small weight because just to fit in a wedding dress, they can come for one session? Depend on how you are, depend on how big you are. As I've said, now once, okay, now the magnification, it's not a weight loss. It's an age loss. So as in within the first session, at least you can be able to fit on an outfit that couldn't fit you. So for you to maintain whatever you've lost, we have to sit down and discuss about your eating habit. Okay. So other than the detox, other than the universal contour wrap, we still have some other treatment that you are having. That is one of the universal contour wrap. That is one of them. But before we go to the other treatments, how long does the contour wrap take, the journey, for someone, you know, going through the weight loss journey, not the inch loss journey, approximately? Actually, what I can say, you are what you eat. You are actually what you eat. I know you don't want to hear that, makes the truth. You are what you eat. So the universal contour wrap just helps you to lose inches, not weight-wise. And then to make your skin more silkier, you'll feel more rejuvenated and it exfoliates. So the universal contour wrap purposely is to lose inch-wise, not weight-wise. So in case you're doing just the universal contour wrap, we still have to advise you on your eating habit. That is the potion and how you are meant to have it. Then you will find that most people don't take water. You might say, as in, it's very cold at the moment, but the body needs water. As in, 90% of our body is water. So if you don't take water, you'll find that you're not flushing out the toxins. And when you go to the loo, you'll find that your urine is a bit yellowish because you have a lot of acidity. So you have to take plenty, plenty of water so that you can keep on flushing out. And you've said that it's not a mask for one to apply the oil or lotion, especially when going to the treatment. It's a mask. You should not. You should not. Because once you're on the treatment, it makes the skin more silky. So once you do, you get back to your, to your whatever, to your ideas of applying the oil, you're clogging the pores again. So now what happens to people? Because people have different types of skin for the people with dry skin because now you will be uncomfortable in your own skin. You're too dry. You feel like, especially on the face, how does one cooperate? On your face, you can do your makeup. You can do everything. But now for the body. The body has got its own oil. Just try for a week. Just try for a week. You do away with, with applying any lotion on your body, other than from the knees, downward and from here. Because people, you know, will be. Yes. Yes. But the body has got its own oil. Okay. This is a relief for me. And now the problems that the men face before we come to the other treatments. What are some of the problems that, you know, that you have come across with men? With men at the moment, they're so concerned about their weight. They're so concerned about teeth, about how they look. So you'll find them, as I've said, it's not a status. Having a big belly, it's not a status. So you'll find that with guys, they have a problem on their tummy and their, and their love handles and some have developed boobs. Amanda doesn't need to have be having boobs anyway. It's natural from Ketambu. It has, men has never been having boobs. So now for men, you'll find that they have, okay, like now for men, people who take beer, they're not meant to have beer. Yes. As in, not forever, during the time that they are on the session. Because like once you take the alcohol, you're going to, once you, once you take the alcohol, you are going to slow the metabolism. You slow the metabolism. So guys, most of them, when they are on the therapy, you tell them not to take alcohol, but you find that they've already taken. So they put you on zero work. So they get back to zero. Because the purpose of the rap, it's speed up the metabolism. So once you take the alcohol, you slow back, you get back to where you are before. So you just have to be disciplined because you have the willpower. Okay. Yes. And now taking you back to mummification and some of the effects that are there when, you know, to some people, people, do people react differently to the treatment? You know, because some, I don't know if you're, you know, applying something. Yes, we do. You're applying something to the body. Does it have an effect? And what is that that you're applying? Okay, as I've said, we have natural clay from the Dead Sea. It's natural clay from the Dead Sea. That we apply on the skin. Actually, after the treatment, your skin will be more sealed here. And it's very good for people who have enzema. Yes. And it just makes the skin looks more, more, more sealed here. And is there a side effect? It doesn't have any. It's natural. And there's nothing that you're taking internally. It's just natural. Okay. So there's nothing that you're taking internally. So the treatment applies to both the men and the women, all the treatments? To everybody. From eight years. Because you have some, some kids who are very big. Still, they can do the universal control. It's for everyone. So the only side effect that we have, the only contraindication that we have is for someone who is expecting, we can touch someone who's expecting or someone who have an open wound. Otherwise, the others can have it. Okay. And now what are some, we have the universal contour wrap. What I mentioned before explaining the other treatments that that. Okay. We have the universal contour wrap that you have to do before you do any other thing so that we can detoxify. We also have the cavitation. Yes. The cavitation treatment is for requidifying the fat deposit. Because once you're big, like mostly for women, you'll find someone having some orange peel. Those are the fat depositors that are already there. Even if you put on a nice outfit, you'll be noticing there's some deep dimples. So with the cavitation, it will requidify the fat deposit. Then you'll be most, then the skin will be more smooth. And the fat deposit that one has in the body will come out naturally like waste by product. You know, when you go in there to the loo, you'll see the yellow things that are coming out from your body. Okay. Yes. Interesting. Wow. And that treatment. We have the cavitation. We also have the preso therapy that helps on the lymphatic drainage and it helps you to lose inch wise. Okay. We also have the slimline machine that will help to stimulate the nerves and to exercise up your muscles. A single contraction is like doing a hundred sit-ups within a second. So when you're on the coach, you'll be working very hard, but you'll be sleeping. Yes. Okay. So these are all the treatments that you're having. Those are all the treatments that you're having. But still, you have to advise your client on their eating habit. As I've said, you are what you eat. You are what you eat. Okay. Before we get into the eating habits, now, how do you categorize where a client should, which treatment a client should take? Or is it the client that chooses, I want the cavitation. I don't want the counter. Yeah. I'm forgetting. Okay. Now, now there is no way you can go to the doctor and say, now I need this one. No. Once I check on how you are. Okay. Now we have to do all the treatment anyway, because every treatment has got its own purpose. The universal contour wrap just detoxify and you lose inches. Now the cavitation requidify or break down the fat deposit. The slim line turns the body, because once you lose inch-wise, you won't be wubbly, wubbly. Of course, you need to be firm. Okay. So it firms the body. The pressure therapy will help to on the lymphatic drainage. So each and every treatment has got its own purpose. Okay. So we have to do everything. But now, depending on how big you are, it's when I'll know, okay, for you, you need how many sessions, because of how big you are, because by the end of the day, we need to achieve our goal. All right. So you have to go through the whole treatment. Yes, yes. And then you decide on the number of sessions depending on. On how big one is. On how big one is. Okay. And now back to, you know, the natural way of doing it using the dead clay. Do you import the clay now? Yes, we do. Yes. And there's no dead scene, Kenya. Of course, yeah. There's no dead scene, Kenya. So you do the importation. Does that, you know, contribute to the cost? So in short, I'm asking, how costly is it? It's pocket-friendly, because what I can say is, like now, people who are very big or people who have already some terminal illness, because of their weight, more the time when you go to the doctor, you need to cut down on your weight, but you're not told on how you'll do it. You spend your time on the gym, but still, you don't get whatever you want. So what I can say with the treatment, it's cheaper than being sick and you spend your lifetime on medication. So once you do the treatment, you can revert some illness that are already there because of the fat deposit. Okay. So I know you don't want to mention the price. No, the price. What I'm saying, it's pocket-friendly. It's pocket-friendly. Yes. So that's the match that you can say now. That is the match, because you see, like now, it's like you've called the Nairobi hospital or I'm having a backache. How much will it cost me? The doctor have to see how you are, for him to know what and what you need to have. All right. So I can't just foretell, this is what will cost you and I don't know how you are. Yes. Okay. Where are you located for someone who wants to contact you? We are in Halingam at a place called Chakakot. Okay. Yes. Your site or your social handle? Yeah. Yeah. We are on FB as Mosteline Clinic. Yes. Okay. Now back to the eating habits, but before we go to the eating habits, what if once, what if one wants to just come to shape their body? They don't have any problem with weight. They just want to shape their body in a certain way. Do you help that? Okay. What we can do for such kind of a client, we'll just concentrate actually. We only concentrate on the problem areas, because you might find someone has sorry to say like the Bantu's, we are big on the upper part and small on the down part. So in that, we are going just to concentrate on the problem areas only. We just concentrate on the problem areas only. On the problem areas? Only. Alone. Okay. And now to the eating habits. What should, what do you advise someone in the treatment now to take on in their diet? Okay. You have to eat because you need energy, but now we check on the portion, on whatever you eat, and we avoid the junk food. If you have to tell the client, you have to tell them to take water. As I've said, most people don't take water. And once you take water, you'll find that your skin will be more silkier. You'll be having, you'll be able to be, to be having very good bowel movement, because you might find that people, there are some people who stay for three to four days without going to the loo. Yeah. Because they don't take water. Yes. Okay. So water is. Water is very essential. Now, we have to be taking fruits like Africans. It's very rare for us to take fruits. You should be making sure wherever you are having your food, at least you have your fruits. But you should not take your fruits with the food. As in, in case you want to have your fruits, it should be 30 minutes before food or 30 minutes after food. Yes. Is it the same case for water, you know? Water, okay. There's a way of taking water, not just taking water like, there's a way of taking water. So once you're taking water, you should have to be seated as you are. And you take your water slowly, slowly. Okay. Not like now when you go to the gym, or when it's so sun, the sun is very hot. Then you go get water from your fridge and just take it girl plop. It's not advisable. And then very cold water have its own side effect. Very, but depend on someone still, because you might find that you're having so throat. So there's a way of taking water. So what is the ideal way of taking water? You've said you're supposed to take water when seated. Yes. And in, you know, in portion. Yes. Slowly, slowly. And from the gym. So that the water can be absorbed well in the body. And from the gym you're not supposed to take cold water. Most people, once they come out from the gym, they ever get in the fridge, take their water. And the water has some side effect once it's not helping you. Fine. You've taken the water by it's not helping you. Okay. And now what are some of the courses that, are there certain courses that, you know, that make one to have a flabby, you know, a flabby, bicep or a big tummy, you know, are there certain reasons or it just happens in the body? It's cause of eating definitely. That is what, okay, some people might say it's the genes, but I don't, I don't agree on that. You have, as I've said, you are what you eat. You, you tend to see that people overeat or you take food that are not meant, that the food that are not helping you. But someone can eat a lot and not grow big, but the tummy grows big. Depend on an individual cause like for, for, for women, our problem is the tummy that has behind and the bicep. Like I have a client who is very tiny, tinier than you, but you see you're tiny. I have a client who is tinier than you, but our problem is just the tummy. Okay. And with that, she has a diabetic take two. She's very tiny. Now, as we are going through the treatment, at least I'm happy to see how she is doing. Okay. All right. And do, would you advise for intermittent fasting as a way of keeping healthy? Depend on an individual. Cause what I can say, I mean, yeah, you can time yourself as in you'll be eating after certain hours. But what I always say is don't have your food and go to bed immediately. Take like an hour or 30 minutes after taking your food to go and sleep. Cause mostly in Africa, what we always do, once you eat, you're in your blanket. Yeah. You've taken a very big Oogali. I mean, you have to check even on your portion as well. You've taken a very big Oogali, then you just go straight to bed. That Oogali will be deposited like a fat deposit. Cause there is no energy that you have used for the Oogali that you've taken, but still depend on the kind of job that you do. Cause people who are on Django, you can't just tell them to take portion. They're using quite a lot of energy to digest cause of the kind of work that they're doing. You are seated here. I'm not saying that you're not working. You are seated here. You can't have the same portion as someone who is on them Django. So the portion is okay depending on the type of work that you're doing. Maybe you could explain to us, why is it that when someone eats a lot in the morning, they feel, wake up feeling extremely hungry? Cause you just over eight, you even didn't, okay, you didn't sleep well. That is one thing. And you're so fatigued in the morning. Cause you over eight, so you didn't sleep well. So what do you expect in the morning? You're just tired. You're just there. You don't feel like doing anything. So that is what I'm saying before you sleep or after having your meal, take like 30 minutes or an hour doing some exercise in the house or doing some duties, some chaos in the house. In that by the time you sleep, you'll have already used the energy that you've consumed. And what advice would you give to someone, you know, someone who's just, who's not got any, you know, any of these problems, these specific problems that stomach and everything, how should one maintain? You should tell someone like you. How should you maintain? How should you maintain? Okay, I'll just tell you to, okay, some people have very fast metabolism and it's advantage to them. So people who are not big at the moment, they don't tend to be big because it has its side effect. Just check on your eating habits. It's the only way for you not to be a bigger person. Now for people who have small babies or people who are expecting, don't eat for three people or for two people. Just have a meal for one person. Even if you're breastfeeding, don't overeat because if you don't have milk, you don't have milk. You just have the food that will give you milk. Okay. Yes. And the treatment for a person who was just delivered a baby, do you do it for people who have gone through cesarean or it takes time until they have, until they have another come? No, for the C.S., you have to give them time, of course, to heal. To heal. Yes, like nine weeks. And just no more delivery. You can give a person like six weeks. Okay. Actually with the body wrap, you'll have much more flow of milk. Yes. Okay. Finally, as we come to closing this conversation, what do you also attend to people who want to gain weight? You know, some people are very slender and I know- They want to put on weight. They want to put on weight. Do you also help with this? You just, you just tell them to have more calories because like now people who are overweight or people who are on the process, you try to cut down on carbs. Cabs are energy-giving food but they make you to gain weight. So people who are underweight, you advise them to take more carbs which are energy-giving food that will help them to build up a yeast. Okay. Thank you very much. What are some of the last tips in summary of everything that you have said for someone who's watching and they want to reduce weight or, you know, certain aspects of weight in their body and again, remind us where they can find you on your social handles. What I can say is for people who are not yet big, kindly don't get there. Check on your eating habits so that you can be able to maintain however you are. People who are still very big, they should still as well check on their eating habits. You are actually what you eat. Yes. You are smiling because I'm stepping on you but your body have a very nice body. So the thing is you are actually what you eat. So what I can ask people is whoever want to contact me, I'm in Halingam at a place called Chaka Court. My number is 0722 874 317 or 0722 874 317. People who are coming from town, they can go to Kencom, get bus number 46. Then I write at Chaka. You'll see a black gate written in white Chaka Court. I'm in there in office number four. Okay. Thank you very much for shedding some light on the weight loss journey in the natural way. It's been a pleasure having you with us. Thank you so much. I am so humbled being here and I hope for the few minutes that we've been here, people have got some few tips that they can work on. Yes. Sure. I believe that someone has gotten a tip from this. Remember what you are, what you eat. That has been a conversation on the weight loss journey, the natural way with Dr. Nelly Korea, who is a professional nutritionist with over 20 years of experience. Yes. So now we bring this around to this particular conversation, but Brands Aqua will be coming up with yet another interesting conversation. Don't go too far. We take a short break. We'll be right back.