 Please Now we are An anxiety and passing it along to your children. Yeah Anxiety about your children first No, you can just you can create any anxiety you ever could possibly imagine you betcha Mm-hmm My dog Sawyer and see a got me through a really bad anxiety attack once and I always think fondly of them See had the the singer and writer. Yeah She was there was a concert on TV and I enjoy her music. So sure. I love see ya. Yeah You know see ya later was that now speaking of later. I Did not see an email that was right for the show. Did you oh You tell me this now. Yeah, I put one in I Don't see one. It's right there. I see 45. Oh, sorry. Oh, I gotcha. You just left one open for me I didn't I always do that when I put one in. I always leave put it below so that okay, it's not being pushy It's politely I just I don't know I looked through this morning and then yeah, this that one's long so I couldn't summarize it Yeah, well the problem was it's not that we didn't get a lot of emails We did but they were all pre and post show emails. Yeah. Yeah, so I always kind of like it's a lot of context to like If they didn't watch that are you guys ready? You know, I was born ready so clearly, I mean, I guess I could I could have been And then become Cuz you're out you're a male just we put Yeah, yeah, that works. All right, okay, you're nicer to her pronunciation. You're mine Oh, yes, that's because my pronunciation is a better because it's perfect. All right. All right. We're behind now We're a minute behind come on Daily Tech news show is powered by you to find out more head to dailytechnewshow.com slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday April 17th 2018 from DTS headquarters in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane and from Elk Central in Helsinki. No in Finland. I'm Patrick. Do you do you have Elks? We actually do in the right now near you Do you have an Elk right now there is a we know it's Recorded before a live Elk audience In Finland it is Mm-hmm. I don't know. We'll have to check with our producer Roger Chang Roger. Is that okay? Sure, I I have little lizards that run outside You're getting crunchy crunchy Must be the lizards. All right, let's start with a few things you should know Sources tell Bloomberg that Apple will integrate the magazine app texture Which the company recently acquired into Apple news and debut its own premium subscription offering Texture less users subscribe to more than 200 magazines for $9.99 per month sources also say post acquisition Apple laid off about 20 of texture staff Twilio long the standard of adding text messaging and calls to apps and services It's taking its same based programmable wireless offering out of beta Twilio programmable wireless promises to make it easy for developers to add connectivity to Internet of Things devices You know, I think Twilio is probably one of the most underrated tech companies out there They just do things that work and make developers life easy and don't get a lot of headlines They just have a weird name. That's why yeah, not like Google also been around a long time Microsoft says they're just trying to secure edge devices with a new operating system for microcontrollers called Azure Sphere But they're also very proud to point out that this is the first time Microsoft is distributing I custom Linux kernel Hey proud of that if you remember 17 years ago, then Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer called Linux a cancer Ballmer's Clippers did not make the NBA playoffs All right, let's talk a little bit more about Microsoft actually and other tech companies Mate send in a message. I guess yes, exactly Well, actually even more than 30 tech companies, which as you said include Microsoft But also Facebook announced a joint pledge Tuesday called the Cyber Security Tech Accord to not assist any government in offensive cyber attacks the accord also promises to establish new formal and informal partnerships within the industry and with security researchers to share threats and coordinate vulnerability Disclosures however prominent tech companies like Amazon, Apple, Alphabet and Twitter did not sign the pledge So here's my question what What is the wording in the pledge that would make one of these large companies? Amazon, Apple, Alphabet, Twitter, huge companies at least in the tech sphere be like nah, we're not doing this Probably existing contracts would be my guess Alphabet got in hot water with some of its own employees over participating in an open AI related Department of Defense initiative which it publicly defended by saying like hey, this isn't we're not helping them do anything with it We're just helping them with the open AI part of it My guess is there might be other things that are more classified that they aren't talking about and maybe that's why Some of the employees are a little upset at them and can only go after this one public Hmm make sense It is interesting why you know the other thing it might be that that Facebook Apple doesn't sign these things right Apple They're like play nice with others forget it But Facebook just may be like no we need to write we have enough to deal with right now Our lawyers are kind of busy. We'll look at that later Maybe we'll sign it because I feel like it would be in their best interest to sign it And I think it's less likely that Facebook is doing anything to help cyber attacks, but I don't know maybe I'm wrong Well moving on to Google Google launched a IY projects last year to help developers build AI powered devices Now the company is releasing updated 2018 kits that are easier to assemble and more widely available with a focus on school use after continued demand for the voice and Vision kits the company says especially from the stem audience for parents and teachers alike Have found the products to be great tools for the classroom the new AIY voice kit version 2 includes a news raspberry pi 0wh usb connection and a pre provisioned SD card A companion app for android is also available that helps wired wireless setup rather and configuration with ios and chrome versions Also coming soon the voice kit cost of 49.99 US dollars and the vision kit which includes a raspberry pi camera v is 89.99 These are cool. Uh, very cool. I think it's funny that a google home mini also cost you 50 dollars and it's already assembled So they're kind of the same thing But this is way cooler than what you're into right? Yeah It's basically like do you want to learn and build your own speaker and come up with AI stuff and come with neural networks Run your own neural networks on a raspberry pi right in your own home here Uh, I think this these are fascinating and very cool And also the fact that uh, you know at least according to the company that um schools and classes uh that you know veer toward the stem area of of education Have shown so much interest that This is you know, this is a new market for them. Yeah, you can go buy these things in target Yeah target target.com. Yeah several several locations right now not every location yet, but uh, I don't know patrick What do you think is this something you could see your your children? Well, there's only one for now. Let's let's not get ahead of us. I mean, I assume you're gonna have I'll be more patrick Yeah, I'm not so sure Based on the experience so far Yeah, um, but yeah, no, it's cool. I mean it certainly seems like something that would be interesting You know, it's like advanced lego. I suppose You already have rdu we know that allows you to do some things, but this seems a little bit more self-contained Um, it's it seems like a pretty cool package to get someone who's already interested in these kinds of things So, uh, yeah, I'm definitely I'm not sure they're selling it in in europe or in france at this point I had honestly never heard of it Before but uh, it seems pretty cool. Yeah Yeah, I I think the idea here that that that makes me excited is Teaching people and especially kids but but just general people. Here's what I AI really is here's what it can do Here's what it can't you can you can actually try it out right here It's not a mister Reuters adam jordan and k caddell have a detailed look at the effects of the us department of commerce's decision That stops us companies from selling parts to zte for seven years It's actually a ban on zte exporting sensitive technology from the us, but it essentially stops us companies from Giving zte anything that is sensitive zte shipped an estimated 46.4 million phones last year about half of which Had qualcomm chips inside qualcomm's a u.s company So this ban stops qualcomm from selling chips to zte Neil Shaw research director at counterpoint research estimates that could lose qualcomm About 500 million dollars in revenue Now zte will in turn need to source their chips from other places Maybe samsung or media tech or china's own spread drum That would boost qualcomm's competitors business a little bit. There's also the possibility of chinese retaliation They could block qualcomm's acquisition of nxp china is still reviewing that right now They could make it harder for qualcomm to sell parts to other chinese companies besides zte Meanwhile zte is the fourth largest smartphone vendor in the us You may not have realized it, but zte has 11.2 of the market here in the united states According to cantalice And it's not in the top 10 in china. So the us market is important for zte as well I think a lot of people have not considered. Yeah, I think a lot of people figure Oh, this will probably hurt zte, but not very much. They're not big here. Well, they're pretty big here It'll also hurt qualcomm and it'll also help chinese manufacturers because it could provide them some more business this seems like The kind of decision that is Definitely going to be hard on some companies But we're touching on topics and we might talk about this a little bit more later we're touching on topics where probably the commercial impact while heavy and important Is the lesser of two evils if you're having these kinds of concerns Yeah, it's that's not the point. It's beside the point. Yeah, I mean, it's even more than that Even, you know, it might this might be a point that my sway decisions in other areas But in this area, it's like, yeah, it sucks. But you know, there there's a more important Goal or danger we're trying to avoid here. So If that's the cost so be it That seems to be Germany's volocopter has showed off its plans for urban air taxis using vertical takeoff and landing aircrafts A vision also being pursued by many other companies including uber Volocopter would build several platforms with systems of conveyor belts to move incoming copters to elevators Where they descend to receive a freshly charged battery and receive maintenance The goal would be a takeoff and landing every 30 seconds to handle a thousand passengers an hour Volocopter has demonstrated flights in germany to buy and los angeles But thinks it will be 10 years before a citywide system can be built It's actually los vegas not los angeles. Uh, was it cms as a matter of fact But yeah, los vegas essentially a suburb of los angeles, right nearby anyway, uh, don't scream at me too loud los vegas people Okay, I Don't necessarily need everyone to write in as they always do to tell me how it's impossible for v tall to work Uh, what I want to know is why do these companies keep pursuing it and and why do governments pursue it? I mean We volocopter and uber are the the two main poster children for this. They're the ones out there doing the the press Tours and and the demonstrations and they keep doing it if it was just a croc If it was just a fraud Why does it confuse you that they keep trying to figure out how to make this work? It's a great idea difficult I mean, have you you've you read the emails? Remember the last time we talked about v tall all the emails we got about well You can't have this many people in the air and and you can't keep the batteries charged There's not enough range of p.m There's too many flight regulations to get around like You could say that about any technology like I don't get it. It doesn't exist It's not just I don't get it. There's some practical Objections to this that aren't addressed in most of these demonstrations and in fact this one volocopter actually came out and said And we have an even more complex system involving elevators and a thousand passengers a minute Because we need a thousand passengers an hour We need a thousand passengers an hour in order to make this make enough money to make it worthwhile because it's so expensive I think the issue that it is trying to solve is so big that it's keeping a kind of but what if it does work spirit alive and We're seeing many many demonstrations but Many of them are unconvincing and don't even address as you said many of the other concerns that will rise from this being potentially implemented in wider scale so there are a lot of hurdles but the problem of You know transportation in urban areas is so big that even a tiny possibility or not even a possibility the promise however unbelievable uh, is you know one worth exploring potentially for cities and also Financial windfall that would attract Many different kinds of people I would say I think that's why it does it. It's it's still not dying Also, sir, I was I was trying to provoke people into emailing me why it will work by taking a Listen, I wanted to and I also, you know, I live at the beach and The weird thing about la and I think this is uh unique to la probably, you know, but compared to other urban areas The coast guard and the la pd Helicopters are outside all day every day. I mean there is it's like a police state out here It is there are a lot of helicopters that said there are not so many where I would be like Well, a private company would never be able to like, you know, take to the skies like they're underneath planes This is not something that's impossible. It's a great idea All right, I'll find the old emails I'll find the old emails that dispute what sarah's saying and show them to her Don't write us new versions of those we got planning. I mean or do it's fine. I can handle it No, I don't I can't I can't I can't just for them to me Uh intel is planning to let virus scanners use integrated graphics chips to scan for malicious memory based attacks The idea is to enable more scanning while reducing the impact on performance and power consumption Intel claims early tested the advanced memory scanning feature of tdt as they're calling it shows cpu Utilization dropping from 20 to 2 during the scans capability is coming in windows defender advanced threat protection this month They're working with other virus protection companies as well Another feature of tdt is advanced platform telemetry that one monitors for unusual processor activity And then uses cloud services to make some inferences about that Cisco Tetration is set to integrate this the threat detection technology will be available on sixth seventh and eighth generation Intel processors this part of intel's charm offensive to say we are going to protect you right from the chip So do they use their own GPUs they're integrated gpus for that or the That's what I said they use integrated graphics chips right So it's not like they can outsource it to your nvidia chip or amd chip like your gpu Uh external gpu. I mean tech I suppose they theoretically, but that's not that's not what tdt does no Folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines available on the amazon echo google home and anchor app and at dailytech headlines.com russia's communications regulator sent requests to google apple and even apk mirror Which is a side loading app store tuesday asking all of them to remove the telegram app from their stores ISPs also began trying to implement the ban on telegram in russia by blocking around 16 million ip addresses Because telegram was using amazon and google cloud platforms to try to get around the block now As you many of you are already guessing or already knew this had the side effect of also blocking legitimate banking retail businesses That also used google and amazon cloud services among the affected services were master cards 3d secure service for securing credit card transactions People were having problem making calls on viber sending messages on tam tam tam tam Was the government's official alternative recommendation used tam tam. Oh wait. We accidentally blocked tam tam so this is turning into a bit of a Fog of confusion right now as they as they try to stop telegram from getting around the block meanwhile France's digital ministry announced monday that it's building its own encrypted messaging service for government use This is kind of the opposite of what's going on in russia Where france says we know that uh macron uses telegram loves telegram But those servers are not in france And in fact all the servers of major messaging apps are either in us or russia as far as we can tell So we want one that we can secure. They've got 20 officials testing the new app They expect it to be mandatory for use by all government officials and employees by summer And they've got a government employee developer creating it based on free to use code Best guesses is probably the signal protocol. That is the best Acknowledged open source uh encryption code out there. It's what signal itself uses for instance now patrick What what what do you think of these stories and and sort of the idea of The government either fighting encrypted messaging on the one hand or rolling their own on the other Yeah, so it's it's they're related, but they're very different the first the the russian the first one the russian government is trying to To enforce a ban that they're imposing on the country To root out some apps it turns out that they are In this case messaging apps because they don't want people to communicate in a way that They don't have a way to observe to to spy on So that's one thing The french one is really about making sure that you have agency over your own The services that you're using and it's not about the people using that communications app That messaging app. It's really for sensitive Topics that the government is discussing because if you think about it, uh, you know people can be using telegram What's app whatever if we don't know where the app is from in this case? We do but if you don't know where the app is from it's not necessarily the end of the world But if it's government matters that are being discussed then you want to make sure that it is Very safe and secured and sure you could use Signal which you mentioned is a very safe and and open source protocol that people vouch for But If you're going to do if you want to be a hundred percent certain and have control over the the product You're probably better off having something that you know and you you control And we just don't have that like no one to my knowledge. No country really has these kinds of tools Maybe some countries have developed private messaging systems that that they have Use that they use for their government or official business But I have not heard of this and I think it's Now that I know France is doing it. It's like Probably we should have been doing this for a long time and everyone should be doing this Well, and russia is actually recommending that their their government Officials use icq Which is run by mail.ru I don't know what kind of security implementations icq has and I'm assuming it has more than when I last used it back in the mid 2000s, but But well, I mean you would think you would think russia would would be Rolling their own if they're so very concerned about security The the the idea that some people put forward is russia is not concerned about security with telegram what they're concerned about is People using the public pages on telegram to put out news that russia can't control and they can't find out who's saying it Whereas France they're actually legitimately concerned about security. Yeah, the the the goal I mean you mentioned the icq, which is run run by mail.ru Which the government the russian government has its hand in all of this So I think icq it's fairly safe to assume that The government can see what you're saying on that platform In the case of the french app, it's not even Something that at least at this point is going to be widely used. It's really something to secure governmental communication Between members of the government does it give the government access to the governmental communications? That's an interesting question That is a good question. Uh, I would suspect Not I might be a little bit, you know naive, but I think uh macron and the the People in charge are tech literate enough that they would know It's probably best to have the thing secure period Otherwise, you know, people are not going to use it and the keys might fall in the wrong hands Blah blah blah So I would think that it's a legitimate effort to Keep security to safeguard security. So I don't think there's some kind of backdoor in there, but it is it is ironic Isn't it that telegram is telling russia The same thing what's up tells brazil. We don't have the customer's keys We can't you're ordering us to hand over the keys that we don't have we we built a secure system And president macron uses telegram because of that very Situation he's like, hey, they they they can't see what I'm saying here And I and I trust that and yet france is like, yeah But that could change Because we don't control that so let's just be extra safe I mean, it's almost heartening to see a government take the trust no one Security principle to heart here. I think so. I mean my assessment here is that the french government is doing the the right thing It can be, you know, it could even be signal Which is again very safe according to every security expert It doesn't matter. You you're not the one who controls it. You're not the one it's kind of it's a sort of a Different situation, but in the case of voting machines, you usually want to have a paper trail Because even if it's safe even if you there are some things where It's probably good to take the safest option. Even if the other options seem or are safe enough here We don't we know who develops telegram. We know signal is safe, etc. But For these important types of communications, you probably want to make 200 percent sure not just 150 percent sure Yeah All right. Well, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit You can submit stories and vote on them daily tech news show dot reddit.com. There's some good conversations Getting underway over there about some of these stories of the day. I'm actually pleased to see folks kind of Critically reading the stories that are posted there. Uh, also the same thing going on good discussions over at facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show We've got good conversations coming straight at us in our emails, right sarah We sure do this one comes from Swarmyadip from Noida india, which is a suburb of deli And this was in In response to our conversation yesterday about ola's plans of adding electric three-wheelers in india Says the number of electric three-wheelers grown exponentially of the last few years in many cities in india and particularly here in the national capital region This is a Quite a large area population of the region is around 50 million people put into perspective It's about the size of west virginia But about the the the twice the population of texas a lot of people, right? Uh, these electric three-wheelers come in many shapes and sizes Capacities usually operate on a ride share model which multiple passengers can share the ride fair start at 10 rupees That's like 15 cents in the us So it's it's pretty cheap. They're generally used for short commutes particularly to and from the nearest metro rail station Ola's rickshaw plan is nothing new anybody who's been to india knows that the rickshaw situation there is Insanely great. Uh rickshaws are lovely, but but it's you know, it's it's it's already in in It works quite well So my adip says no worthy here a number of companies have introduced electric two-wheelers mostly scooters in india With some initial success, but the replacement cost of batteries and other associated factors have deterred new buyers And the sector now is kind of struggling Also bank loans that have fueled india's automobile growth are difficult to come about for electric two-wheelers to put numbers into perspective They'll over the last decade 0.4 million electric two-wheelers have been sold in india while the sales of petrol gasoline Uh, uh gasoline powered two-wheelers stand at 1.8 million per month. So there's a real discrepancy there Yeah, it seems like the the point. Uh, Sumit up is making is uh, ola has been inching into this business So the news that we reported uh, is just them stepping it up Uh, and it's certainly not like there were no three-wheelers and ola's flooding the country if that was your oppression This is this is a vibrant marketplace that that ola is increasing its participation in so Uh, thank you for the on the ground report. I always like to get those Absolutely and also thanks to patrick beija new father new house Lots of stuff going on in your world, but let folks know where they can keep up with everything Uh, you know what you can go to frenchspin.com. It's very easy and you can find both of my shows One of which is called pixels and we'll cover the tech not the tech news the gaming news We just recorded an episode with our friend mark turpin And we're gonna be recording another one fairly soon. 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You're off next week Sarah I will heed your warning Although there is a A peer next to the house, but it's really very Very low. It's like okay If you were to jump off it, it would be like catastrophic, but I still I think I'll I'll I'll just follow yours still don't Okay, maybe maybe take a photo of it though. I'd love to see this peer. Oh, I have tweeted a few I'll I think at some point or maybe on instagram Um, it's a it's a lovely lovely peer. I think sarah should take a picture of hers Patrick should take a picture of his and then you guys can send them to each other and it would be peer to peer sharing Without peer How did I not see that what's coming? I was like is tom just being like, why don't you take this offline? Why don't you guys just send each other either Tom wants us to shut up or he's gonna make an elaborate pun All right All right, well good stuff. All right. Well, I'll proves your twitter account. I'll find it eventually Uh, and I'll try to send it to you. All right, sweet dreams. You're to peer. Bye. Hi, sweet prince Good night, sweet prince I'm getting booed in the chat room bad. Wow booed. Well, you know, hey, this is a chat room that's used to this That must have been particularly egregious Uh, what are we gonna call this show roger? Um Roger says good question. Yeah Well, there's france sends a telegram to whatsapp And there's also app messaging control alt delete But um, france sends a telegram is a good start, but to whatsapp doesn't really There's also a telegram question mark telling yet telegram telling yet Uh, that was good. That actually works for france too because they're like no more telegram president mclone Oh Well, I defer to you guys when it comes to Russian slash french, uh titles, I don't know. Yeah Uh, I I'm good with telegram telling yet. That's done cemented done Yeah, I'm all the jets Time to move on to the next topic. So can you hear that? Yeah The only problem with running everything with the mixers Oh, what are you using to play it? Oh, I got my peer photo So all the apps that's beautiful With all the pc apps Oh, no. Oh, no What? The No, oh crap What happened? Oh, I don't know what happened. So for some reason Uh-oh, I wonder what did this for some reason in my recordings All just recorded me not system audio Oh In fact, it's do we do a backup or do we no well we have we have a uh, we have a backup in the in the youtube recording Okay, uh, so so there will be audio for the main show The pre and post show will be here obviously on the yes, uh main recording, but Uh, the pre show will not be the post show will be here on this, but the pre show would not be Oh red Wait, are you sure you you didn't get all of it or yes? I am a hundred percent sure that I only got I'm looking at it right now And it's it's only for some reason it did not record the, uh It did not record the system audio Hmm. Well, I'll have to the troubleshoot like something that was no, I know what happened I I was messing around at discord before the show Uh, and was changing out some discord settings And I did not anticipate that this would happen, but by doing that I somehow messed up audio hijacks Uh ability to get system audio So Uh, we are going to have a shortened post show today while I go and figure this out. Um But thanks everybody Thank you for sticking with us. We'll see you tomorrow. We'll see you tomorrow. Sorry about that