 So, bit of an interesting story around it. It was when COVID had just started, I was working at Ashworth High Security Mental Health Hospital in Liverpool, yeah. So, it's a very different environment. But I remember a manager I had at the time, she just turned to me one day and she's like, you know, you're a good clinician, she said, but you're a little bit different. And I was like, yes, that's correct. And my son had already been diagnosed. And I told her and she's like, just come and have a conversation with somebody. So anyway, one thing led to another. And I was diagnosed with autism when I was like 36, something like that. But I mean, when I got a formal diagnosis, I wasn't really shocked because I guess it's common to all people with neurodiversity, you always kind of know. And she told me and then ADHD, it was one, it was one of my patients. He was a consultant psychiatrist who also used to work at Ashworth. And I was treating it one day and he just kind of turned around to me and he's like, you know, you've got ADHD, don't you? And I was like, yeah, I know. And he said, when you come for an assessment, so I went for an assessment and then I got diagnosed with that as well. So and I think I know I actually said to him, I said, one thing that confuses me is I don't know where autism starts and finishes or ADHD starts and finishes. And yeah, he said to me, do you need to? He says, I don't. He said, I just call it neurodiversity. And people have different mixes and combinations of different traits and attributes. He said, you're an individual as most people with neurodiversity are. And he is a consultant psychiatrist who he actually runs a private company in Manchester called Sanctum Health. And they do private assessments for people that want to go down that route. Sure, sure. I think that it's quite a common sort of feeling, especially for people who have like a dual diagnosis, call them or ADHD as yeah, AU, yeah, DHD. And I found it really interesting whenever I've talked to anyone with that sort of dual diagnosis, because it's it, they can be very contrary in their like signs of each. So like with ADHD, you have the aspect of sort of chasing that sort of novelty and excitement and interest. And quite often that sometimes leads to being quite impulsive and wanting to make changes and wanting to continuously kind of adjust things. But then you've got like the autism side, which is, you know, thrives in terms of mental health when we have like a stable routine, we know what we're going to be doing each day each week, to some degree. So it's like, at what point are you more autistic or ADHD, kind of, you know, that sort of push and pull kind of dynamic. It's it's it's really quite complex, I think. I don't know what your experience was though, Tom, but I definitely felt like I'm more autistic than ADHD. So if you, you know, you read through the diagnostic criteria, if you look at the DSM five, you can see the comment rates, there's definitely some ADHD there. But I definitely felt like I'm more autistic and by virtue of that fact, it was the benefits that came with autism that allowed me to attain the level I have in different areas that attention to detail and being able to consume, you know, like large amounts of information and get that deeper level of learning on a subject area. It was that autistic, those autistic traits that allowed me to excel. I feel anyway. I think it's it's it's it's hard, isn't it? Because, I mean, obviously, I, I and and many other people, when we do our advocacy, when we talk about experiences in generality, it's, you know, it's the thing is, is that you can't you can't know exactly how each individual is and how they think and how they live their lives and everyone has their own sort of personal experiences. I had a podcast with Dr. Megan Neff, which I brought up quite a few times just because it was such an insightful podcast for me. But she was talking about neurodivergent insights, if you want to look her up, but she was talking about the being ADHD or autism dominant in terms of sort of presentation. And I think for a lot of people, some some people might be put off by sort of, I guess, put putting levels of autism and ADHD kind of as a comparison. But I think it is quite useful in terms of understanding how you live your life, how you work. Because, as I said, like, it's not, you know, autism is ADHD, that the psychological diagnosis is. So they're based on outward signs. And it's not always clear exactly, you know, from the scientific literature that there's these designated split categories and, like, biological markers for knowing if someone's autistic or ADHD, because we don't have that, because it's not based on on that. It's just, you know, we do some people do studies, they look into the trends, the biological trends for someone with that diagnosis, but it's always from that sort of psychological basis. So it's I really enjoyed that podcast. I know the one you said you're talking about. I watched it. She was really good. What I can say is that having worked with a lot of kind of sort of psychiatrists is that when you're looking at human behavior, you're talking about shades of gray, and there is nothing that's clear caught. In order to objectify what they do, they had to have diagnostic criteria in order to be able to diagnose somebody with something. So in the ICD 10 or the DSM five, if you look at it, it will have these traits. But I remember one thing that somebody said to me, he said, all these things are labels. And when you strip the labels back, you're just looking at behaviors, traits, you know, common patterns. And really, when you give somebody that diagnosis, you're describing a certain set of psychological, like the psychodynamics that underpins it. And that goes for a lot of mental health conditions. The label is probably less important. It's understanding the behaviors, and why they do them. That is more important one for the clinician and two for the individual. So they know how best to manage the world that we live in. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I think I think that another sort of gray area comes in when we when we think about the idea of sort of identity as well, because, you know, the medical system, as you said, it's, it's, it's set up to box you into different categories to label you and to provide systems of support or ways of improving on yourself that are applicable to that to that label. But when it comes to like things like identity, you know, it's, it's something that's sort of very intrinsic for a lot of people. And it's, it's not always the case that every person who has who could be considered to be autistic and ADHD, are able or want to go for a diagnosis, because it's always based on that sort of model of what's wrong, and how can we help? And if you don't see anything wrong, they're not going to really see the point in giving you a label and sort of helping out unless it's to do is sort of validation of your like self identity, which is so it's an interesting sort of area.