 Let's do it. Let's do it. See if we can get her done circulating for signature. Any comments or items not on the agenda. I'm sorry, I do have. No. My name is. I'm talking on the corner. Yeah. Okay. And Jordan. He is my son. The whole family's here. Additions or changes to the agenda. All right, now we just wait for Alfred. Maybe we should do something. I was going to say, why don't we do minutes. Okay. The minute. The minute. And I had a couple of edits, Katie, did you see? Yes. Okay. So we're going to schedule already done. I'm just taking a couple of things out of order that. We can do that won't affect anything else. So I've been known to be out of order. Yes, you have. I can attest to that. Oh, I know there's on page. Two K. Second to last second to last paragraph on the bottom. And I. Thank you. Okay. So I would make a motion that we approve the minutes with the changes as noted. Well done, Katie. Thank you. Thank you. All right. What else would you like to do that doesn't require. It probably doesn't require much of anything. We could sign the work fields. And it'll service agreement. Finally. Anybody. They asked me and I said that. Oh shoot. Now I lost all the documents, Katie. That's okay. Why don't you go back to the screen share button. Select the window or application that you want to share. I lost. Denise, you might need to reopen that internet browser. Like go back to Google Chrome to open it again. Maybe. I think we lost. Yeah. When everybody has their computers and stuff on it, it chews up. Stay. Okay. Where do I want to go? Katie. I think you might need to reopen the internet browser. So Google Chrome. Oh yeah, cause Gmail on a way. Katie, do you have your browser? Yeah. Oh, yeah, because Gmail went away. Uh-huh. Um, Katie, do you have Grace Macdonaldson's email address? Her email address. Let me check. I'll forward to you her email saying that she can't get in the passcode isn't working. Thank you. Can you forward it to me and I'll help her? Yep. I wonder if she tried the exact minute that Wi-Fi went down, maybe. Probably. I'll mess it up, Denise, if you forward that over. Thank you. All right. Let me try to get back into the documents. No. Okay. Okay. I think this is the one with all the changes incorporated it. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I would make a motion to approve the revised. Well, you. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. All right. Yeah. I'll send it around for signature now. I just got to be recording in progress. I was three eyes and wanted to stay in case you didn't hear. Thank you. All right. Now I want to be able to. Minimize the participants on zoom so I can see the. Agenda. Or the document. And see zoom at the same time. No, I want to make it work here. So. Okay. How do I get this to. Let me see how do I move the. The view box. Over. Here's grace getting into the meeting. Denise, I think you want to set the view for zoom. And then do the screen share to open up the document. You want to share again. There we go. Thank you. Looks good. All right. Okay. I approve the MOU. I'll send this around for signature. Agreed. That once the first one dam. Association signed off. It's done. And we will get. An original back. Okay. What else can we do? I know we can do. That's great. I understand my 23 budget. Last year. In prior years, we. Would all me on Monday evenings or Saturdays. And it would take us five or six meetings. Last year. Cliff and I. Met several times and then brought information and versions of the. And John, you can speak for yourself, but didn't that process go very well? Saved a lot of meetings. Yeah, well, as a guy, he doesn't like to go to too many Saturday meetings before Christmas, I think it was great. So why don't we do the same thing? So maybe we can get Rick to resign his position as Cliff be appointed back. Is that what you're suggesting? Yeah, let's see. I know I don't want to be a point person on that, but maybe Mark does and you will work with Mark. Didn't you say it would be great? I think that would be something that's up for you. And this also gives Mark an opportunity to learn about the budget and the process. And I have to say, I looked up the, just for... He's an old dog, can he be taught? That's the question there, perhaps not. So is that a motion, John? I can make it a motion, sure. I move that the select board appoint Denise Wheeler and Mark and the Hallie to be our point folks to put together preliminary budget and represent to the full select board for our consideration and augmentation Okay, is there a second? All right, okay, I'm going to say aye. Aye. And I did just add up for how I've looked up to CPI for the Northeast region on November 1st, 5.9. Boy, I'm really amazed by that. I brought copies of what I looked up to look at. I was surprised, you know, Social Security, my husband gets Social Security and they sent him an announcement that you're upping his Social Security by 5.9 cents. Oh, I thought there was a cap. Wow, they're doing the full tilt, full amount. I'm happy to hear that. Actually, I've been doing work around the house and I purchased some two inch foam board, you know, exterior grade foam board for insulation. I also buried up some water line and I looked at old receipts and new receipts and in 2003, I bought the two foot pieces of foam board for foundation insulation and it cost $5 for a two by four sheet. Those sheets are now $30. How much was it? What? Those two by four sheets are $30. You can get a four by eight sheet which can be broken in half for $40. So the two by four sheets are $30. They were $5 in 2002, so in 19 years, they've gone up six fold now. Has everyone's salary here gone up six fold? Not last time I checked. You know, I'd be in the money then. I would make it like $300,000 now a year. Well, Romax is the same thing. It's more than twice what it was. Yeah, it's out of control. I fear retirement. I guess we're not going to be able to. Rick, do you think we need to, do you want to wait for Alper to talk about the road contingency plan or can we get started on that? Just wait for him to be done for that. How about, can we? How about the EMFD? I think we can do Brookfield. That's just the annual service contract reels. And we've been using them for years. And it used to be, we would do the school and the town at the same time, but we separated out now so the school has their own contractors, Brookfield. Main into that generator. And the maintenance agreement that we typically use is the two visits a year. And if we pay this by November 20th, we can get a discount so that it's $954 instead of $1,000 and $4. I would recommend that we do the two visits a year and get Santa to pay this by the 20th. Do you need a resolution? We're so moved. Second. Okay. And... Did you get that, Katie? All in favor? No. And would you authorize me to sign this? Yes. Okay. All right, all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? All right, Alfred's right on his line. Hey, Alfred. Yeah. Right. Nice job supporting local businesses. You brought grass seeds and plain field hardware. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, good. For sure. Yeah, dude. Support the locals. Yeah, try to. Good. Good. I like that. All right, so you're out, Alfred. What's your road contingency plan? How's that going? It's going. I don't really have much to present tonight. A couple of things I can add to it was we have a whole extra file of gravel or if we have a warm but it's pretty good. Yeah, what is the position? I heard we might get... 60s tomorrow. For their long ranges that they're warm, is they're predicting at least average, probably above average precipitation, what form we are now. Also warmer weather through the next year. You know, so it's so we've... Let's go. This is our right. We're going to get the threes to thaw in the one season. So I'm pulling up extra gravel, so we have it on hand. Sorry. If we need it, yeah. I guess I'm getting the studs, no, yeah. Right, well done. Thank you. Yeah, I guess that's good to me. And as far as the winter maintenance policy. I mean, the road policy, I think it's weird. I mean, I think we're going to have to look at that. If we do become in trouble with some of the times it's going to change times that we're going to be out there. Certainly in the morning, you're not going to get plow by seven o'clock or three. I wonder if we could have, if we could update them winter maintenance plan when we figure out, you know, what we're going to do, we can have, you know, this is going to be option one. This is option two with these circumstances. We just want them in. So that we can. So that we can approach it. Two more. Yeah. Yeah. So you, if you want to take a look at the maintenance plan and come up with some justice. So we're going to have to look at the maintenance plan. So if you want to take a look at the maintenance plan and come up with some just suggestions, I'm happy to come to the garage and sit at the computer and type for you. I'm not good about Rose. Well, I mean, that's a policy, right? So it would have to be changed. Well, yeah, the board. Yeah, the board. Yeah. We just have a draft to present to the board. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a normal. So that's more or if you have like, um, Rick just said, if you want to hand write stuff on there, I'm happy to. Right. Plug it in. Right. Yeah. You can do it with the word. I'm sorry. I don't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We get our started meeting and I was asked if there was public comments for things on the agenda. Are you here for a specific item? I'm here to support. And. And. We're going to be talking about. The. The intersection to. And the center road. Great. The color. Okay. Um, okay. So you'll get back to me. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Any bite. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not so much. People that you know, you don't have to tell them to right now. Right. One of them I do know. And one I do not. Okay. I don't know. I don't know. But I'm. So. One of them can't come until. Thanks. Get. Well, that's not that far away. Right. And do they both have. Yeah. Both of them are CDL. One of them has. My experience. Municipal experience. Great. Different state. But nevertheless. A lot of criteria that we will. Yeah. Be suited for us. Good. Good. So. He needs to relocate. But. That's all things that we're going to work out. Very good. That's good news. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of pressure. Yeah, for sure. Well, it. Take a long to get him up to Steve. I mean. Well. Yeah. Wow. Experience. But he doesn't know. Doesn't have. Wow. Experience. So. So it'll take some time. For sure. You put them both in the cab. One can direct. Right. So. And hopefully we can stagger them a little bit. Like. One guy that. Knows our roads. And our pod experience can start. Almost immediately. The other one is going to be longer. Because he's already employed. We have to give. So he's probably a month out. Yeah. So I won't be training two guys out once. Right. So that will be helpful. Yeah. When you're doing training to the other two. Oh yeah. Yes. Okay. Great. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So. Yeah. I'm busy with other stuff. So. So. Yeah. So. Great. So yeah. That's positive. Guarantees. They are going to be. But it's better than what we had before. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. All right. And if you decide to hire, let me know because we can put that sign on balance information and writing. They can sign off on it. Right. And you're clear on how that's supposed to work. Yes. Okay. Yes. Yeah. That question hasn't come up with these two guys yet. But it will. Yeah. Okay. Very good. I hope that's not why no one is coming. But. Well, you know, it's been sensitive and I asked. Any other channels were doing this. Apparently. There aren't any other channels. Offering incentives. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Excellent. Stay tuned on that. I think that in the position where I feel comfortable. At the interview. I'm just going to pull a trigger. Oh yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. You're the hiring manager. Do they have to pass it back? No, I don't think so. Yeah, I'm thinking of one of the other half. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. And they do it that way. Just on purpose. Random. All right. All right. Are we ready to do the curve cutters or anything? We're on that. Okay. Look at the curve. This is the Benjamin year. Foster Hill. And you met on. I. I redesigned there. Folks, I redesigned our. Approval form. So we have a little check boxes. Cool. Yeah. So one. Okay. So yes. The road commissioner hasn't expected this site. Can you tell me. You know what day you did it. Or roughly. Last week. Yeah. The first was Monday. So. Let's say. Yeah. Okay. And. And there's. A tree that's questionable. And he was going to make that decision. Did you get me all to come and look? I didn't get me all to look. Cause he wasn't sure if he's going to take it down or not. That's right. Close to the curve cut. So. I think you can see both ways. You know what I mean? See around it. It's a big tree. Oh. And. Might become. So that's something we would. Consider later. I don't think it's going to affect the curve cut necessarily. Okay. Okay. So the next question. Is it me to be 71 standards? You'll have to make it. Oh. It might become. So that's something we would. Consider later. I don't know. Does he know that he needs to. The town's right of way. He knows he needs to get the tree warden. That's right. So there's a potential. I don't think it's going to affect the curve cut. Okay. You'll have to make it. It doesn't right now, but you'll have to. Carve some parts to make that happen. Okay. And when he does that. Okay. So wait a minute. Later. Contact tree. And then. What does he need to do? Okay. I don't know. You know, I don't know. So. What are you going to do? Just. So. All. So low. Traffic area. It's low speed. It's on foster health. So. It's on the Woodbury side of the hill. It is. Yeah. It's right on that flat. And. If you're headed towards Woodbury, just be just. Peter's house. Peter backwards. There's a little knob there. That's the only thing that. It's questionable. It's on the left or right. On the left. So. On the left. The side distance is. 300. We buy this a lot from Peter. Yes. The female addresses. Benjamin at Foster Farm. I see. All right. Is there anything else? Okay, I would make a motion that it is in the proposed agreement in yours with the conditions as noted on the permit. Okay. You got a second. Say yes, say aye. Aye. I'll send this around for change. And Alfred, I will email you a copy of this new permit approval form so that when you're going out on site visit you'll have it right there to note. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. I can try to explain it to them as well. Right. Okay. It's Grace. Did Grace ever get in? Yep, I'm here. Oh, hey Grace. Hello. And the next two things on our agenda are the California stormwater project, the final plans and approval. I didn't have any document to put in the Google folder but I think we've pretty much gone over all that, right? Yeah, I think we went over this with the previous meeting. So, good for Grace. Tell us where we're at with that and what we need to do next. Yeah, so at the previous meeting I just provided an update. I don't have any more current information but the plans have been developed and the next steps are to wait until the state puts out an RFP for implementation of the project and then CVRPC and the town will coordinate on applying for that. And that's expected within the next couple months I believe. Yeah, okay. So you'll let us know when that's ready. So what do you need from us right now? I don't think we need anything from you right now. Just waiting on that application to come up. Rick and Alfred, you're good? Yeah, we're very good. All set? And there's no action that we need to take at this time. Okay. All right, next up is the Ken Hill Road Colvert grant application. And we're asking CVRPC to tell us what it would cost for them to do the management of this grants. Yes, so I am in communication with Melona McBroom who did the study back in 2016 about the town hall and the culvert. I haven't received a cost estimate from them for this yet, so I don't have any specific numbers to provide you. But what I can tell you is that the FEMA allows for project management allows a maximum of 5% of the total grant cost. So whatever the budget is, the grant administration, and they call it management costs, those are going to be pretty low, no matter what, because it's capped at 5%. But I don't have any specific budget numbers to give you. Hopefully we'll have a budget by the next select board meeting I would anticipate. Yeah, so I can give you more specifics then. So it sounds like there's not really anything for us to do tonight, right? Okay. What's the plan? This is the culvert that saw Carl McBroom female exchange. This is a different location. No, this is the culvert up here by the town hall. Okay. We're going to get to that. Okay. Okay. That's the email I forwarded to everybody. Yeah, I saw the agendacy. Yeah, I'm continuing to work on the application as well. I'm fleshing that out. The 2016 study provides a lot of good information. So. Right, so there's no action that you need on this at this time, right? Right. Thank you, Grace. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Let me know when we need to put it back on an agenda for action. Well, should we go to the next meeting? Do you think we'll have numbers from the. Yeah, I hope. I hope to have numbers from them by then, because it is due on the 14th. So it's coming up quick. Okay. Yeah. Our next meeting is not until the 22nd. Okay. So you want us to. You want to have it on the agenda? Yeah. Yeah. Right. We probably don't need to have the other, the East callous on. I don't think that grants. We probably want to see moved it by then. No, probably not. So we can. We'll just do the candle. Okay. We shouldn't take all that much time. Even at the next meeting. No. Right. Action. Yeah. I think it makes perfect sense. To have you guys manage it for us. Yeah. If the cost is reasonable. Yeah. And I can also provide at the next meeting, I can provide an estimate for a match because you might recall it. There's a 25% match required from the town for FEMA grants. So I'll hopefully have that number as well. Great. Thank you. Thank you. So I just wanted to stop for a moment. We have several people. Here in the audience that I don't think Katie knows their names. I for your. Page. How do you spell that page? Okay. And it's in the email that you sent me that I forwarded to. Yes. Yeah. I know I asked. I think I asked Katie to put that in the. Folder. So let's see if it's there. Yeah. If you scroll down. It's yeah, your email is there. And then you had sent me that one today that I responded to. Yeah. Yeah. All right. And then we have. I remember your name. Well, where. Who here is here Katie for the EMFD matter. And Randy Fitch. And I don't know who you are. Jonathan Fitch. Okay. And then you saw Bill Powell, right? Okay. So thank you. We're back on. Sure. So we are on the agenda item of. Apple Hill. Yeah. It's all. Mark's asking about the camera. We have this owl camera device here and it directs a. Rotational camera effect. To whoever's speaking, but. I pan the audience. I'm just going to show you. YouTube land or whatever you call it. I believe Jordan keys, who is the son of Paige. And. Randy and Randy's. Jonathan. Are here to talk about. The Apple Hill road culvert. So I'm going to let Alfred first. Then the board can ask questions and make comments. And then we'll. Have an opportunity for others to speak. Does that make sense? All right. Okay. So this. Calvert has been a lack of color has been a problem for many years. Water sets on the uphill side. And it creates a large puddle. Every time it makes. Does that tell me the site was it on several years ago? Yeah. I remember that. I installed it. It's a color. We're going to call it in across the road. The homeowner at that time. Didn't want to call repair. Asked it to be removed. Select board rule to have it moved. Removed. That's at the intersection of. Just so we're clear. Yeah. So the problem was came back to me again. It's not a problem. It's not a problem because there's water setting the side road. And how did the problem come back to you? Something you noticed or something somebody told you about? Well, I've noticed that I've known for years has been a problem. But yes, I had actually Randy asked me to see if we could get that fixed. And then as I learned that the property. Had changed hands. I had to talk to. Page. To see if there was a possibility that we could put. To call it back in. And control that water. And she seemed to be fine. Wanted me to talk with Jordan, her son. Who does some engineering on his own. So I did. And he seems to think it's a good idea also. So, but because the select board had ruled. It to be taken out. I felt the need to bring it back to you. And you're absolutely right. Give me the go ahead. Yes. Can I go ahead or can I do half away? Yeah, you follow the procedure. You should have this for you. So given the time of year that we are all facing. That's sort of time sensitive. Right. And did you talk. I'm not Carolyn's property is up. She does. She used to own the property. Okay. Welcome to call us by the way. Nice to have you here. Thank you. Was the problem. Before the culvert didn't drain the water, but it drained onto property that didn't want the water. Right. Right. Yeah. But it doesn't impact any structures. Right. So what. Yard into a swamp is the, it's the allegation or the concern. We did look at. Other options, which, which. Which, which, which I think is more complicated. There's one possibility of. Ditching down that side of the road. In front of your pages house. And then putting a cross culvert across to a wooded area. I recall this is memory. Right. But that's much more involved. And. Yeah, right. Yeah. Well, no, there's, it was just a, water rather than dumping in someone's yard. So I would suggest that if we're gonna go forward with this and Paige is okay with it, then we do it. But I think there should be an asterisk that if it turns out to be a flood condition situation that we be open to considering a more fixed than this is, that's all. You might lose, it might be not a problem or based on what Carlin was saying and her husband were saying that maybe it was particularly wet year, but it turned everything wet and it could be, that was not a usable section of yard anymore. So I, you know, when we went there, I don't know how well it was. It wasn't that wet. So, but there was also, there was actually, you could see a channelized flow was like a drainage way that started eroding into the property. So like I said, we can put it in. We can put it in. It would be understanding that if it becomes a problem, we'll take it back up again and come up with another option. Yeah. And this is not to ignore the problem that bitches had brought up, you know, Randy was there last time. And so I think this is a good time to revisit anyway. All right, so does the board have anything else? If not, I'm going to go to the public comment. I think I do have one thing I just want to ask because I haven't been on the site yet. I mean, they said, Steve, great off of that. When you said channelized out of there, I mean, is there a, it's not super steep. And I would actually had planned on putting this catch pool there. Yeah, or something. Stone line. Okay. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. So was that there? Was it that was a stone line catch pool here before the last time? Yes. Yeah. And just still. It was, yeah, it was. Right. Well, they built, they had built a sort of a flat stone wall in front of our culvert, which is still there. And I plan to stay on the roadside with my catch basin with everything that I do. So the catch basin should catch any sediment. Most rainstorms, the water will stay within that and it'll just seep in. So I really, for the amount of water that's there, collecting there is not going to affect the property. Well, I think that's what's there after the storm is not the problem. I think it's as a storm keeps feeding that area, that becomes a place it collects and then it will overflow into cloverways. We'll just see. Yeah. It's an ongoing problem. We know that, but I just want to make sure we're not shifting one problem from one place to another. So what I'm hearing is at least the sentiment is that we go ahead with the understanding that if there's a problem, we will reconsider. Right. But let's hear from, let's make sure we hear from the public and then we can put in our minutes what you just said. Just hope it all works out. Jordan, I'm going to ask you to make a comment if you like. Thank you. I appreciate that. Can everybody hear me? Okay. Yep. Okay. Well, calling myself an engineer is generous, but I do have some experience with the types of earth moving and I did meet with Alfred on site and discuss the catch base and everybody's representation of those conversations is accurate. We don't want to get in the way of mitigating the issue as it stands and to have a full history of trying to mitigate that in the past. Unlike the stone lined, a modest stone lined catch basin would likely address current storm water events. The only caveat to that that I shared with Alfred and discussed with my mother who's the current property owner is that should storm water events get more intense and because this particular catch basin isn't necessarily going to have an outlet that if we do have an issue that we have the cooperation of the road commissioner to address it further with a more substantial solution which is going to require cooperation on both sides of the dialogue to ditch all the way down Robinson cemetery and make sure that that water gets to basically the swamp where it wants to go without necessarily having to go through anybody's property unnecessarily. I'll stir it up. Yeah, right. Yeah. Okay, thank you, Jordan. Paige. Thank you. I think he clearly addressed it. I had conversations with Falcon too and thank you for being open to and sensitive to be as the new property owner in the event that this is not a permanent solution that we will work together to see one. So just out of curiosity, how long was the culprit in before? 10 minutes. It wasn't long. It wasn't long. A week maybe, can you? All right. So there wasn't really time to assess whether or not it was a problem or a solution, a problem. All right. Is that it? Yes. Okay. Brandon. I just came to the floor. Do you want to jump? Jason was thinking about how long the hit was for the people to avoid the water's happening. Oh, I see what you mean. The browning? Yeah. And I've always, you know, fed trucks, my neighbors, which I don't want to mention. It's just about, I just, it's been closed. Yeah. And it's just been happening since it was taken away. Okay. Most of these table items is aware of itself. You know, maybe you've got standing water or so. Yeah. And some of it's, you know, some of it's there. Yeah. It's just a big one over there. Yeah. And a lot of them over there. Yeah. Okay. So. As long as you're going to pass it, it's better to know where it's going to end. Yeah. Okay. And I just wanted for the record to note that we received an email from Carlin True and she objects to us, to Venus Culvert, and you all had the opportunity to read her. I don't think she objected. I think she was concerned about the new property owners. She's not aware of the, the back and the dialogue. She does not object. It says the folks that are proposing this reinstallation should be ashamed of their lack of empathy and consciousness of what it means to be a respectful mate. Right. Because she was not aware of the conversation. She thought that we were just going to say, okay, Carlin sold it. So now we're going to stick it in and, you know, be legal of the new neighbors. So that's not. Okay. She's this actually clearly a misunderstanding, a lack of communication. Have you talked about how she sent me an email and she was being aware. But she's on the agenda. She was not aware that I have already been in court and I've already been at the other department. She was reaching out to say, hey, this is on the agenda. This was something that happened. Okay. Right. Okay. So I think you have approval to move forward with it and I think you've documented that if this becomes an issue, would be hard to want to say what you said before. But then it comes to an issue because of the pooling of water on the crack me bringing it back to us. Yeah. Well, we visited it with the proposals. Yeah. So in Jordan, there are particularly acknowledged that's exactly what we were talking about in the alternative. It was a much more involved project. And actually at that point in time, we didn't have even time to really get into this over time. But that's something that this becomes a problem or it doesn't work. We could look to do and something else. And we'll have Jordan design it for us. Charge. I don't know that the state would sign off on anything like that, but. OK. Well, it's so nice to meet you, Paige and Jordan. Welcome to Calis. Yeah. Thank you. The president has been for some years. But he comes to visit mom and dad. He comes to visit mom and dad. What? We're property owners up on Bain-Kamoli as well. So we're future Calis residents. I live on Bain-Kamoli road. Yeah, we. So I'm part of the collective that purchased the. You don't want to go there. We're. Where's your property on Bain-Kamoli? It's right next to Jody's property. So we're I'm not sure we actually have an address yet, but. OK, welcome to Bain-Kamoli road. It's a good group on our road. It is a good group. Yeah, plenty of earth movers on that road, too. There's a lot of them and they drive by my house every day way too fast that just remind them. We will. All right, so moving on. Ash trees, you've talked to you, Neil, correct? Yes. Thank you, guys. Thank you. And I think it works out well because you just got in the chip. And you're going to be going around. Well, yeah, I was talking to him about some other. And during the conversation, it's like I'm going to be using the chipper. And why not do that? Ash trees while we're there are at least some of the ones that are manageable. So he and I knew that there was no nothing organized through the sweatboard or doing that. So here we are. Yeah, we need direction for how you want to proceed with that. Well, Neil's a tree warden. So I think if he identifies what can be cut and we can circle back with Neil, but I think Neil should post something on Front Porch Forum so that when people see these ash trees being cut, they don't get all upset about it. Well, I think that's that's sort of what we need to do. Right. You know, because Neil is saying that all ash trees should go because they're a liability. They're assumed to be a hazard tree. We need to do it. So my stance is that I would like to do it while I'm there. Right. If you're having a rush there, I've got the machine. I can do it all while I'm there. But I also don't want to free people out and create no animosity. Are these trees. These are not diseased yet. Right. It's they are most likely to catch this disease. Yeah, I know, but are the bigger ones still timbrable? Yeah, yes. So when we cut them, what do we do? It's the landowner's tree. So it's another thing that I suppose I would have to organize is communicate with the landowner. Where do you want this? What do you want to do with it? But you can only cut it if it's in the right way. You can cut it if on the landowner's land. Right. But there are trees that are in the right way of that size, of that log size. So that would be something that I would have to communicate with each landowner or landowner to see what they want to do with it. Most of them are going to say, don't want it. Well, you know, people are going to put it in the firewood. Yeah. I mean, they're a brother and they're Matthew or somebody. I don't know. That's all things that will have to be. We're kind of worked on and worked out. I mean, most of the time we just cut it into the size of the pieces and leave it beside the road. And that's for them to decide what they do. Right. Now there's just brush, honey, stuff, you'll just. Brush will go through the chair and we'll never see it again. Well, until it grows again. And that's another thing that, you know, there are going to be some places around town that we can't just chip it out into the woods. We'll have to load it. So there'll be another list of people that are going to be interested in the chips. Right. Are you going to stop pile them at the counter? I would rather not stop pile them because then you've got people wanting us to load them. You got people to come at all different hours. So I think it would be a list that somebody they would put their name on the list. We would bring it to them if we had a load. So that's on your plate. It'd be cool if we want to volunteer. It would be great if we. I mean, I would. I mean, somebody else, somebody will have to do it. Yeah. You know, and some people will just, you know, if it's their land, they're going to want chips. Right. Same as they're going to want. And they have first, they have first choice, obviously, with their property. I mean, most places I feel situation would be that I can just blow it out into the woods. Right. And never touch it again. But some places there's going to be long, there's going to be, you know, you can't just blow it. So. OK, so you coordinated Neil, which is good. And we're going to ask, we can circle back with Neil and ask him to do a posting from which form as the tree war and saying, this is what's going to happen. You would be the contact person. Yeah. Right. John, comments. Yeah, well, I just just begs another. You know, question idea that I've had in my mind for a number of years, and I really think I had a list of things to do. I really think the town needs to find a piece of land that where we can stockpile sand, where we could stockpile chips on the side of town or even further toward Worcester. So Alford doesn't have someone to take chips. He's not hauling it, you know, so far. And likewise with sand or other material, when we get stockpile and if people want to go pick up chips, they can go pick up from that stockpile. That I just feel like if we had a piece, a three acre piece of land or a 10 acre piece, even that would be great. And I think we should rise up. We have a time and I thought of this over the years, but town forest on County Road. Vice, there's an access that fills up in there. And I'm on that one. No, it's off of County Road, though. Right by Scott's stories. Really, we own a forest over there. So isn't it the Old West Church forest that goes through there? Where is Scott's story? What's it called? What do they call it? What's it called? Town forest. There's what's it called? Yeah, there's that forest. Oh, you're talking about that forest. Yeah, but I believe I may be wrong, but I believe there's an access from the County Road that gets you up into that problem. Really? Come on, can you check it out? I thought that was all behind Stan Morse's farm. Right, but that's all sort of relative in there. It's all in that round of where that access of County Road is a trail on Old West Church Road. Yeah, right, the hiking trail. Yeah, that land go right straight through over to County Road. I think that's Stan Morse's property, which is now owned by David Nash. That's the forest ends. I don't think this land goes that far. This is a way down the side. We should find out. Yeah, the point is it's a great idea. We should have a place to dump stumps, trips, dirt. Yeah, John, can you check it out? No. Thank you. John, I'll check it out. Yeah, I think that I've always been really impression that that's our access, but it's never been utilized. Yeah, so OK. So it is our access or if we have a right of way up together, I would have no problem. So of course, we town forest, according to our policy, we says in there that charge of the Conservation Commission that they manage our town forest. So we we figured out and we'll go talk with the conservation. Right. Yeah, absolutely. You don't want to just start dumping stuff on. Well, no, we'll go find another piece of property that just say. Well, or maybe that's not an area of this. Actually, in my mind, I can't see that force going there. You can't see the force for the trees. I because I walk through there. I don't know where that is. Well, maybe you guys could take a site visit. The two of you and then report back. Yeah, yeah, I'm not clear is where the forest property lines are. OK, so Katie, the minutes are going to reflect that. Alfred and we should John are going to coordinate going and looking at the site and seeing what they can figure out. The other thing is the Peltchups still have that property. Black Rock Coal Black Rock Coal. And they're looking to sell the quarry, I think still. Yeah, but there's a lot of property ahead of the quarry. Is that actually a field back there? Is that more just property? It was. No, it's it's it's owned by the Peltchups. They bought it from Stanley, OK, some 20 years ago or more. And so there might be an option there, too, where they just just putting that out there. I really think the long overdue is burning diesel fuel. We're wearing a truck wasting valuable labor that we don't have. All going more well, tires, oil, gas. Yeah, it's just just it's wrong. I did it, you know, we used to before the clerk's officers. Right, there was a garage there and it was an area we could have done work there. Yeah, not now. I don't know how much land still available there either. No, we opened it up to Drew Lam. I don't know if there's a plateau we could access there even. But it would be harder. Yeah, I was thinking about the property, but. I said, anyway, so I'm just putting that out there. It's just reminds me of that. I know you brought it out before, so I mean, what wouldn't it be great? If Alfred, instead of like David doesn't want the neighbor doesn't neighbor who's getting his trees removed didn't want them, but we were then there are people who want firewood, you know, and they're buying it. I see a lot of like being just, yeah, they're paying for a lot of link to be dropped in their door yard and if the stuff is already bucked up and people go pick it up or whatever, that would be a great service to the folks in town, particularly people who are struggling in. And they're going to get worse. Yeah, yeah. All right, sounds good. All right. So are we ready to move on to the MFD? You have anything else on for? Oh, thank you. OK. Call me. Yes. All right, very good. Thank you. Thanks, Alfred. Thank you. Oh, is that how you make out with the? Yes, please. Yeah. Yeah, I'm very across. One, two, and my toes. Right. Yeah. OK. Yeah, absolutely. So, Katie, Larry Brown from EFD just joined us as well. Thank you for coming. Thank you for getting us on here. Stay cool. Oh, sure. And thank you for your note and asking to speak with us. I know you've already met with East Montpelier, and they approve from their end. They approve the purchase. So why don't you tell us a little bit about it? So what we're looking for is permission to withdraw the funds for this auto loader in installation. I brought Larry with me. He's going to talk about, you know, the auto loader at Scout Outworks, the change changing in the dynamics of the fire service that we're going through, the reasons why we want to get this auto loader. Isn't that? He's more able to talk about it than I am. Isn't that something that you showed us when we've been at the fire department, one of those automatic, they lift themselves? Did you show us that? We've showed you the stretcher before, which has taken a real powerful stretcher. And the next evolution in ambulance work all around the country is the power stretcher allows us to put a patient on it and lift the patient up to the height of the ambulance. And then we put the patient in and lift the stretcher, put him in the ambulance, secure them in the way we go. The power lift system is from Striker, the same place that we bought the power stretchers from. And I've got a little video here, which I can show you so you can actually see it. But just a quick background, and I used the month of October last month for the staffing of the fire department in the ambulance. So each month we have 98-hour shifts to staff at the fire station. Those are shifts that are staffed by two people to have full-time coverage, advanced life support coverage for the thousands of calluses on failure to get a 2,000 service. In the last month of October, 60 of the 90 shifts are covered by failed employees. So what I'm simply saying is the stretcher itself weighs with the oxygen bottle and the equipment weighs 175 pounds. So if I was going to bring the ambulance over tonight just to let you experience loading and unloading the stretcher, and then I was going to take some light weights like myself and John and three of us and sit on the stretcher, simulating four or 500 pounds, and how do you lift it? And you're going to see if I can lift it, right? That's what it would be to have the ambulance lift it, right? Now, with the new power system, you could do it. Yeah. The person could lift it. I know you demonstrated the one at fire station to us, and that was really nice. We've never really had the power lift system unless you were there with about two and a half, three years ago, Striker brought it over in the demo van. Yeah, I remember something you showed us one time. So it will, I've got a short video of it here, but what the power unit allows us to do is if we get on call and we pick up a three or four person, any one of the members on the department, whether it's a 135-pound female or it's a 165-pound guy or 200-pound guy, they can lift that person safely to them with basically one finger. It's a no hydraulic lift, and it also is the state of the art for securing the stretcher in the ambulance in case of an accident. Right now, what we have is a horn system where when the stretcher is picked up and rolled in, there's two U-shaped brackets. The back of the stretcher slides up into the brackets, and then as we slide the stretcher to a locking mechanism, it's just a new bolt. And when the stretcher has a pin, like a native, it pins it, it locks the stretcher. That's all that's holding the stretcher in. With this power load system, once the stretcher is placed in the ambulance, the two arms pick it up and lock onto the stretcher. It goes down like a track, like an I-beam track, and it's one hand is put in and it's locked on there. And that's the tracker there, right? That's the track in the back, correct? Those are the two arms. Those are the two arms that lift the Americans up. So how do you get somebody that onto that? So we've had various situations in the past month to lift the big people. And we have some big people in our service area. So the biggest part is to pick the person off the stretcher. Once we have them on the stretcher, we now can handle them. If we have somebody recently, we have somebody that weighed over 600 pounds. Oh, thank God. So that's a very accurate patient. It was about a 650-pound person. And that was a challenge to get that person off the floor. Onto the stretcher. And then try to get into the stretcher. You don't have anything to help lift our number. Not on the floor in the house. So what happened to that particular person? We found out that there are no ambulance services in central Vermont or the district that capability of lifting a patient like that. We wound up with six or seven people getting that patient off the floor with vinyl type, what we call, mega movers. And we were able to lift them to a chair. Now, once we got them to a chair, that patient, we had to do a medical assessment, which we did, that did a medical assessment. And we had to communicate with the hospital, not to transport him out of his home until the next day. And we had to arrange for Burlington Send-Down Fact, which is the big mobile transport unit. And they're equipped to handle very accurate patients. Their stretcher was probably a $25,000 stretcher, which will hold up to 1,600 pounds. And in their ambulance, they have a winch system. So when we brought that here to one of the towns to load this person, we literally hired a flatbed record that came in. And we could not get the person out of his house because of just the way that person was able to walk to the door. And from the door, we had the stretcher on the flatbed truck, put them on the stretcher, moved the flatbed out and lowered it down with a winch. Once we had it on the ground, they were able to move it towards the ambulance, put the winch on to a literal winch, which in the ambulance put down steel tracks and winched the person into the ambulance. With this system here, my son works for Burlington Ambulance Service. They have one of these systems in their ambulances. They recently, in the past couple of weeks, moved the person out of a hardware carrier that was over 600 pounds. That person was able to walk to the stretcher, the same identical stretcher we have. That stretcher is rated for 700 pounds of patient. When it's on the ground, it's rated for 807 pounds. When I lifted two feet to get in the ambulance, it's rated at 700. So they were able to get the person and on that crew was my son and a female, 64-year-old female nurse that works right now. They were able to get that person on the cot, roll it to the ambulance, put it into two lifting arms, and with the push of one button, hydraulics picked that 600-pulse-pound person up and one hand put them into the ambulance. So what it does for us at Inetio, we are coming across these cases all the time. More and more people were transporting in 300, 400, more bigger. The majority of our staff are female and it's a tough lift for anybody to lift. Even for, I've been in work for a long time and even the strongest guys on the department, it's a tough lift. So unloading, it's just a reverse. So unloading, that's all they do is, it's a one-hand operation, one person. They pull the stretcher, release the button. The stretcher comes straight up and suspended right there and it's holding 870 plus the overload capacity straight out. One push of the down button, the negative or the plus button lowers the wheels. Once the wheels touch the ground, push the button a second longer, the two hydraulic arms release and you move your patient out on the wheels. So you said you had a video, how long was that? It's only a couple of minutes and I can see if it will play here. That's what I'm just curious about. There is internet, but it's unstable. The more people that sign on to the internet, the more unstable it gets. I can sign on, so I'm sure it will work. The device says maximum safe working load of 870 pounds, 395 kilograms, which includes the ambulance pod, patient, and the equipment attached to the pod, such as oxygen bottles, monitors or pumps. Power load meets SAE J3027 dynamic crash test standards and minimizes patient drops by supporting the cop until the wheels are on the ground. The Striker power load is designed to be fully compatible with cops that have the power load compatibility option or kit. There's one required operator for an unoccupied cop and two operators for an occupied cop. Practice first with an unoccupied cop. Follow the guidelines in the operations and maintenance manual to ensure you have everything needed for installation. You should make sure the battery is fully charged before the first use and before training with the equipment. Finally, have a qualified person. Yeah, I think we got a good idea. So let me ask you something. This is your working divide one, but aren't there three ambulances? We have two ambulances. We're looking to purchase one now for the newer ambulance. The other ambulance is 15 years old, I think, and it's not worth putting one into it at this time. We use the ambulance as a backup and one as primary. So one ambulance gets used. So the one that would have this would be primary. That's what we would use. And he would just use this all the time. We'd use it 99% of the time and let's go in for maintenance or service and then the backup. And see what we do. We rotate in the wintertime. We've been using the older ambulance in the winter to save the new one, but this is- Well, it won't be anymore. With this ambulance, with this system in the ambulance, we've had, I think on that brochure, it even tells you at the end if somebody had one back injury, the cost to the town or to the department for a back injury that's- Right, the workman's gone. What is the cost? This is also personal. Paul's got the numbers. Yep. It's, yeah, it's right here. Yeah, we've got more of an update from since I sent you that. Oh, the estimated number? Yeah. The unit itself came in around $21,000. The installation, but also we've learned that it's advisable to get a service contract on it. Yeah, that makes sense. So we're up around $27,000 to $28,000. And we, Eastbound Player said you probably should go to $30,000 for some unforeseen expenses. Right, and then amount to not to exceed. Yeah, that's what that's the way that they worded it, yeah. Yeah. The service contract I thought was important to have. You know what, I think, so I guess we'll just carry on. This happens every meeting about this time. It's working, too. We lost the zoom on this computer. Yes. Just as you guys were watching the video. There we go. All right, go ahead, Katie. Yep, we only lost you just as you were watching the video that EMFD presented. I know. Can we continue this way or are you gonna log back on? You know, we're almost through the agenda items. We can, if everybody's good, we can just finish up this way. Let me know, Denise, if you want me to screen share anything for the folks on Zoom, okay? What? Just let me know if you want me to screen share anything that y'all are looking at. I could do the screen sharing to the people on Zoom. Oh, okay, I don't know. If you saw, if you were on Zoom, you saw what was up before the video was on. So right now I'm looking for a motion to authorize the EMFD to, and I guess I'll make a motion, authorize EMFD to purchase the Striker auto loader and service agreement in an amount, not to exceed $30,000, and it would be withdrawn from the EMFD capital fund. Any further discussion or comment, questions? Anybody in the audience? Yep. I'd like to bring these questions. And what let's vote, all those in favor? Aye. Thank you so much. We really appreciate you keeping us in the, or at the next, we know our meeting in December is on December 2nd, right? And on the first Thursday in December, will you have it then? Oh, okay. It's five to six weeks. Yeah. Is it on a boat out from California somewhere? It could be. Yeah. We don't know. It could be a long week somewhere. Right, thank you so much. And as always, we appreciate everything you do for us. Thank you. Okay, so we are moving along with WECC. And we have Bill Bill. Come join us, Bill. Thank you. And so by the way, I would like to thank you for putting your right hand on to the chamber. You're welcome. I don't think Barry Bernstein is still on the Zoom. Yeah, he's there. I'll thank him for making this initiative. I guess I come as the white representative but I also want to ask you to answer your question. Do you have any questions about what you're looking to do that you should answer? This is to get high speed internet to the town office, to the hall. And I guess there's a few houses on the Cantill Road. Right, what I'm trying to do here is give you a better sense of what WECC is doing this town and for you other towns. Right, but this is not that, I get confused if you start talking about the fiber project and this project. This is a separate project, right? Well, this is a student project. Okay. So the big picture is WECC is providing fiber, 100% access to this admission over time. Great. And in each of the 41 towns where there's a CV, we have three of them and we're working with CV fiber that happens to be ours. Right. And every CV has its own agenda, its own track record so far and financial capabilities. Some, one of the CV's is solid and very much of this. Central Wines has just received a major grant and is in the early stages. And that grant money cannot be put into place for, it's called pre-construction, but that is not anything that will actually provide a retail service. So I just wanted to, you know, share any information that questions are out, but other than making a distinction, the project to bring fiber to our neighbors, to the office is a CVD project. And we've been helping move that ball with our local partners. And right now the project is up at the camp corner for the substation. So, you know, I guess, I want to vary if he's got any thoughts to weigh in because Barry's really the champion for moving this through this town and others. We're CV partners. But negotiations are still underway. There are no contracts that are signed with the CV partners. The gap is closing. We've been at this for some years and Barry gets full credit for being the champion on his project. But, you know, I don't want to take Dave Healy's thunder from him because he was here with me on the 11th. Oh, and, you know, the accident was if the ARCA money would be available for this project and you quite properly indicated that you're going to wait for the LCT to kind of set the standard and do it through it. Right, yeah, as they told us, it's a marathon on a sprint. But the project that we're looking at tonight and the one that we have money budgeted for in the budget was $10,000. There was going to be an estimate for this particular piece of the bigger project. Well, let's put it, let's put it out. Right, and the estimate's not 30,000 dollars. Of course, the time has already made a significant effort, but you're not close to it. I think more importantly, even if the money was here and the cable's out, we still have to light the cable. And that's not happening. That's expected by the end of the year. So I'm just trying to tease it out a bit. We're pushing this quite quickly. Right. And the CUD has an active role and they ultimately will be the agent at your look at the street level, you know, bring the service in and from the road to Brock. So what I'm trying to get at is we're all here to approve tonight this project that's from the Kent Museum down Kent Hill Road to the Town Hall, to the Town Office. And the estimate is roughly 30,000 dollars. Is that right? Okay. So that's what I'm trying to get at tonight so that we can make a decision on that piece because I understand that it's ready, you know, you need the money for this project. Is that correct? Well, the contract is already in the year we've been mobilized and we're all interested to see if that happens. All right. So I guess what I'm looking for is to make a decision tonight to authorize the expenditure of up to whatever amount we decide to make this project happen. We have $10,000 already in the budget. Our budget is in very good shape. We have a very good fund balance going forward. So if we were to authorize this amount it would come out of our existing budget because we're not ready to tap into the ARPA funds. Once we start tapping into the ARPA funds then we open up this door of all this record keeping and everything that we would need to do. And the ARPA funds is something that we need to take some time to learn more about. I had a Zoom meeting with Katie at BLCT and Grace Vincent from CVR PST and they're saying take your time. So we want to get this project done not using ARPA funds until we're ready to. But is it 30 or 10? It's still a say that it's roughly 30,000. We are budgeted last year. $10,000 anticipating that there might be an opportunity like this. So we have about 20,000. We have a really good fund balance and we're on target budget-wise our expenses that haven't happened and probably won't. So I think Barry's chiming in. I would feel very comfortable authorizing 30 or not to exceed 35 to make this project happen. Is that a motion? Well, I want to hear from Barry first but it would be a motion. You can go ahead and make your motion and I can speak after whatever you want. I just so everybody's clear, the reason this is important now is we got the contractor at Kent Corner. It's going to be the least expensive we can possibly do it is do it when somebody's in place. You're right that up to 35,000 we haven't got a fixed number from the contractor. What this will do will provide that dark fiber that fiber to the town clerk's office and then that will allow CV fiber hopefully when you are able to give some ARPA money to them but with their other grant money also to connect high speed to you which from talking to David maybe the end of the year it may be early March, I don't know but the fact that this is happening is great because it's been a promise for so many decades in this state and with the CUDs and WECS help we're going to try to get all of this done callous and all of the other 41 towns. That's the bigger project. I want to focus on just getting it done so we don't get it. You're right, not to exceed 35,000 would be for the 10th corner to the town clerk's office or dark fiber through what would be great. Mary, does that mean that every select board meeting the internet's not going to go out? Every select board meeting around this time the internet has- No, it's not the internet out Denise. This is how our like your computer if your mind's not going out. Which makes no sense. It's your computer, it's that. Okay, all right. So I made a motion to approve what do we want? What are we calling this project? The Kent Hill or the town office. The town of high speed fiber to be it's just strong. It's strong. Installed and deployed. Deployed and lit. Deployed and lit. I like that. The lit part will fall on the other side. And the CD is about a week away from that. But ultimately, we have to see that right. Okay, so I'm making a motion to be up through the deployment of fiber from Kent Hill Museum down to the town office. Kent Hill substation, right? No, it's the corner. No, it's coming from Kent corner to the town office. And this is for to pay WAC to do that. And it's not to exceed $35,000. A second there. Any further discussion or comment? Dave, Dave, I might go up a couple of questions. Is there any concern that we're singling and we're using taxpayer funds to single out our own needs? Well, I think it's really needed at the town office for them to just do their work. We had been considering last year spending upwards of $87,000. To Comcast, right? To Comcast. Consolidated. Consolidated, right. To install a line from Route 14 all the way to here and actually could have been higher. That was an estimate. And then they would then, that line that we paid for in full, they would then be able to charge other people to go on to a line that we paid for, but didn't own. So, you know, I know as one select board member, I was not very happy with that. And I opposed it vehemently and he did do it. We did catch some grief from folks, but so this is the better option. And it wasn't one that was available then, although it was speculated to. And it's part of a bigger, bigger amount of project than everybody. Right. The 35,000 or whatever it ends up being, it's less than that, is for the deployment of the line. It's the main bus. It's not connecting it to us. That has to happen to CD Fibers contractor. You got it. Just to give this a little more picture. If you look outside of the corner, the line terminates on a pole on this side and then it runs underground to the top. So it's that stretch, that underground stretch that the teacher, and there's nothing with 35 to do it, obviously that's pretty good. David would act, we'll say, if you were talking about customer premise, I put myself to 279 bucks. So we should, so at the contract, if the contractor is already going to be there with, it could possibly be the same contractor that would install that later on. So I'm trying to make a distinction from the guy that puts the line in the air, puts the splices and the spare groups in, and then the last guy actually brings it by the pole. But I was wondering if that guy could run the line underground to their office and then they could do the connection. I can't speak for that. So I would like your motion, please, to be flexible. I'd like a friend to make John Brabant make a friendly amendment to Denise's motion, I think seconded by Rick, to allow for an additional expenditure as necessary to continue to line from the pole just off the corner of town, the town hall here and across the road, whether it's underneath or above or whatever, to the town office, so that if the contractors are there and facilitating that at that time, would save us money or time and money that we could do, have that option available to us. Does that make sense though? Well, I think that was also suggest, since I assume there's very conduit for power and very conduit for calm and you probably put up space in the common conduit for a strand that might be a good thing or you may have to do something separate and another issue if they're having separate work would be you guys have the right way to commit for that kind of thing. Right, if they're going to bury it under the ground, we have to. If they could just pull it through existing conduit, I don't believe you can run fiber optics through a power line conduit. It's got to be a separate conduit. So we have to find that out. Whatever size conduit's in there, maybe enough spare room. And lighting it up or whatever you call it, it's included in this price? No. I think that's true. I think it's going to be made shortly, so I see a convergence here. Okay, so we'll have to do another. Well, is this the end for struggle? I think it's approved, or when you do approve it. I can't speak for the total cost. We're flying wide here. Yeah. This is estimate by someone else who may not even want to do the job because they're busy with everybody else. But ultimately, like I said a couple of minutes ago, David would use a money of about 1500 bucks for the mass drop. So I'm using that as not a budget but an estimate of what that will cost. So this amount does not include the final connection. Right. Unless and unless there's money left over, it's probably that budget amount. If not, they'll have to come back. So I think there's three parts. There's this part that Bill is still here about. There's the part I spoke to, which is taking it from where Bill's project would end and bring it to the office. And then there's the third leg. That's the final connection from outs. No, no, the final connection from outside the office, bringing wire into the office. And that'd be, they're not, I'm just suggesting they put the power over onto that side and make it available to be connected to the office. That's what I'm suggesting. Now, maybe they would just want to hang it off the side of the building, but. Underground service, I'm falling on the full side. Right. Anything to come aerial, you need to move forward. Right. And you don't want to do that because you've avoided that. Right. So I'm just making it so we have that option. Okay, so John made a friendly and Mr. Chikes that. Okay. Are you ready to vote? Okay. All those in favor. Aye. Aye. Aye. Thank you. Thank you. This has been a long time. Thank you very much. Have a good evening, guys. Thanks. Bye-bye. Can I ask, I have a question about the original motion. Yeah. It's for an amount not to exceed $35,000. Do you want the minutes to reflect that that $35,000 is the 10,000 that was in the FY 22 budget and the rest to come from. Budget. The rest of it to come from our existing budget. Thank you. Thank you, Katie. All right. We're almost done. We have one more thing. Tracy, I see Tracy there. Are you there, Tracy? Hi, everyone. There she is. Thank you, Tracy. She's, well, she, Tracy's right there. She's, yeah. John, can you turn your computer? So. Okay, Rick and Bill. Tracy has, I think Stephanie said you had been attended to conservation commission meetings. And I know she's been looking to have you be appointed and you have agreed to do so. You have a background in, what did you say you have a background in? I'm a wetland and wildlife biologist for professionally. Oh, you work for the state? No, I work for a consulting firm. I've been in consulting for almost a decade, but I have a master's degree in conservation biology and an undergraduate degree in environmental science as well. Well, welcome to Calis. And yeah, we're very excited to be here. Oh, yeah. We're on Apple Hill. Just when you start to go out, when you come from Maple Corner, we're 643. Okay, is that, is that the class four road? Yep, yep, right where it starts. Right where the class four road starts, okay. All right. And the conservation terms are four years. There's several that are currently vacant. So we would appoint you to fill a vacant position where the term expired in 1922, but then we do reappointments. But when then we do appointments after town meeting, we would reappoint you if you were, you know, wanted to be to a four year term. Okay, sounds perfect. And then we got you. And then I'm here forever. Okay, so I would make a motion that we appoint the travesty, the sudden halter, is that how you say it? Got it, yep. You do the conservation commission to fill a vacant 2022 term. I'll second that. Okay, all those in favor, if we say aye. Aye. Aye, aye. Wait, we are. Thank you, everyone. I should have put more on the agenda. I should have put more on the agenda. I should have, I should have. I should have, I should have. All right, Katie, are you all set? I don't think there's anything more to do tonight. It's so nice to meet you. Pleasure to meet you. Nice meeting you, Katie. Pleasure, pleasure. So please, are you interested in holding positions down government? That's a serious question. The serious answer is I'm not here full time, but I feel like, you know what? Nothing, nothing that gives her son any extra to do's until all of his projects are done. We were going to put Katie as chair of the Registration Covert Committee page. How do I see? I don't know how that would involve you. Is there a motion to adjourn? So moved. All right, all those in favor? All right, Katie. Thank you.