 Alright so here we are at the front of Chillmeats. This is a place got done for some pig abuse a few years back. They're putting cigarettes out on pigs. We're waiting for the trucks to go in bearing witness and you can hear the pigs screaming from outside. They're terrified. They're only six months old. Some of them are sour mothers and it's just a horrible place to be. They've got scratches all over them. They look tormented and abused and just tired and had enough of their suffering. So we're here to pay our respects and give two minutes of silence out the front. That's not three minutes. Give us three minutes. Just little babies in there. Oh just babies. Are you vegan? Am I personally? Yeah. Well that would be telling wouldn't it? Well yes. That would be nice to know. Personally no I'm not. You're thinking about it after seeing these poor pigs? Well I've had a lot of information thrown at me today. As I say I'm like a sponge now. Yeah. Look at the babies. It's not fair. We don't think it's fair. I come down here. We've been down here a fair few times to do this, you know, a number of times. Do I necessarily agree with what they do? Well you know. Well it's not what they do. It's actually what consumers do. Because we're paying essentially without our money they don't have a job so it's our sandwiches that are doing this. So it's easy to pass the buck on to the slaughterhouse workers but it rests the soul. I don't know. Please step back from the track. He's going to be swinging this side, okay? You need to move. Are you kidding me? No, come on. I'm kidding. This is past. Show compassion. Hey, language. Less of it, right? Language. Yes, language. Where's the respect? Where's the respect? Should we tell him? No, it's fine. Let me finish this. Oh, it's fine. It's a great place to be. Yeah, but we need a place of course to have an ethical backbite. Do you know what I mean? Have a moral backbite. I don't get it. I would rather, if you wanted to go over to the cows and everything else, I would be quite happy with that. The landowners are the ones that aren't happy with that. All right. I have my opinions and I have to keep them to myself. I was just curious as a human being, how you reconcile being going to following orders even though it's not difficult to you. But this is what I'm saying to you. I have my views, but I have to put them to one side. I deal with a lot of stuff in my job that isn't very nice at all. I have to put my views to one side to deal with that. And it's the same in these situations. I come and deal with protests. I come and deal with all sorts of things like that. I have to put my personal views to one side. But you know what? Criminals can say that. And that wouldn't stand up in court. So let's say, for example, the only way that a parent could feed their children was to become a drug dealer. So they had to put their personal views of drug dealing aside. Right. So do you know what I mean? So the criminals are doing that too. Do you know what I mean? So I feel that as a human being, I'm assuming you are one, maybe you've got a free choice. But you've got a free choice. Why? What happened? It doesn't seem too comfortable. We've got to give people time to process. Hey, baby. What's that 666? Oh, look what they've done to you. What did they do to the side of you? Huh? What do you think about what's happening here? To be honest, I wasn't, you know, I've had a chat with some of the guys. Yeah. It's interesting. You don't, did you think that people cared about pigs this much? No. Honestly, no. I mean, yeah, I know there's a vegetarian movement. I know there's a vegan movement. I didn't realise there was quite as much. Vegan's a bit different. Vegan's different to vegetarian. Vegan means just... It's no animal product. No animal exploitation. Yeah. So we're just against animal slavery, yeah. Yeah, that's different to vegetarian. Vegetarians just don't eat meat, but vegan's just an ethical stance against violence to animals. Right. Oh, okay. Yeah. So we just don't think it's justified to put them in a gas chamber. This isn't actually a gas chamber here, but usually they put them in gas chambers. Oh, okay. The pigs. Yeah. So this one's a bit different. I think they've electrically stunned them and stabbed them. That's how they killed them here, but... Yeah. So it's not good. It's not good. No. I suppose when you start to hear about it, understand about it, it's kind of making you think, yeah, that's not quite what I thought when I looked at my plate of food. Yeah. Well, you don't make the connection. They keep that, what happens in between from us, because we wouldn't buy it, kids wouldn't want to eat it. Imagine showing your kids what happens to bacon on the plate. Yeah, that's a fair point. You know, so... But no, I mean, this is in itself, actually, do you know what? I quite like it. I like the whole action, but as I say, it's give and take, isn't it? Yeah. We don't want to close down a protest and go, you're not doing anything, because that doesn't serve anyone's purpose. It takes more resources out from us. Yeah. And it stops you guys from doing what you guys want to do. It's a peaceful movement. Absolutely. We're just trying to show compassion, you know, in a world that doesn't care about animals, you know. Especially in this type of animals, we care about dogs, you know. We care about... If that was dogs in there, people would be upset. Yeah. Because they're pigs, just as more intelligent than dogs. But we've just chosen the animals that we eat and kill, and the ones that we love and care for. Hmm. Hmm. Programming. They do it well. Yes. Yeah. Society has its guidelines, rules, stuff. But people take the easy path, I guess, don't they? It's not the... There's no difference, do you feel? Between... Between dogs and pigs. Um... In the way they suffer, feel pain and want to live. In that respect, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, mentally, I'm programmed, that's just why I've been brought up. Yeah, same here. Mentally, I'm programmed that if somebody offered me a rash of bacon, I'd eat it. If somebody offered me a rash of dog and told me, I'd probably go, ooh, that's a dog. Why? I couldn't tell you. You should think about that. Yeah. Why that is. No, it's nice to talk to people who give you that... Sorry, I should mind you about it. It's nice to talk to people that actually make you think, rather than just go along with what you've brought up. Society tells you. Yeah. You know, whereas we've become a society of followers instead of thinking for ourselves, you know? And I'd say 90% of people have seen what happened in a slaughterhouse that would turn them off their dinner. Yeah. And if it was natural to eat animals, why would it turn off... It wouldn't turn a lion off their dinner. A true carnival. No. They'd see it and be hungry. It's not going to give too much of a talk. Yeah, they're a true carnival. We're not meant to see that type of violence. It would scare our children. It would make our wives feel sick. Turn us all into vegans. Yet somehow we kind of put that in a box and accept it, don't we? Yeah. Plenty of vegan options now. Burgers, ice cream, yogurt, chocolate, bacon, cheese, all vegan. The UK is leading away nearly for mock meats and they make it out of plants, pea protein and soy beans. So no saturated fat, no cholesterol, no hormones, no cruelty. Yeah. It tastes the same. Like there's fried chicken shops here made of just wheat gluten. Okay. I don't know that. Yeah. A lot better for us, a lot better for the animals. Just check it out. Yeah. There's an app called Happy Cow. Okay. It's called Happy Cow and it shows you where all the vegan restaurants and stuff. I should go have a try. You're not missing anything on taste. Yeah. Don't knock it to each other. That's right. Cheers, mate.