 but that's my father my grandfather and his men and people that around they was Muslim people through dirt and made the black stones to be this one thing then he switched it to the air ruckins yeah and um and again that was again to show his growth what we what we going what what it's about you know it was only about unity on boss talk one on one yeah we gonna talk you know um when you hear the stories about your granddad you know um is it what what place do they take you to you know what I mean like cuz you you gotta understand the the culture was based out of Chicago where does that put you as in a mindset man I mean my thing is I kind of called it definitely than the world catch okay so I tried to I might have you know I try to deliver the truth to people you know I'm saying so they can understand like the the meaning of things like first of all my grandfather Muslim he's your mom he's a Sony Muslim period okay my father was my uncle is you know I'm saying I say all them because they all play the key part in the view google things and stuff like that my uncle my father and my grandfather is gonna pop up are you how are you all right I am a practicing Muslim I am practicing I want to say that because I want wants to understand that anything for me I feel like people lie too much first of all and um and so practicing things is key that mean that you just trying to understand you want to figure it out but I am a practicing Muslim like I said my mother was a Christian for all my life my father of course was Muslim so for me I felt like it was part of my culture and my right to want to learn both all right let me figure this out for myself yeah man yeah yeah but sure but that's my father my grandfather and his men and people that around they was Muslim people do dirty made the black stones to be this one thing then he switched it to the L. Rookins yeah and um and again that was again to show his growth what we what we going what what what it's about you know it was only about unity they don't understand why that was created in the first place it was about unity at the time black people or people color more because some of these names are not really real they was given do you know where the name black stone came from and what is the meaning of it it came from actually the block black stone you know and um and to say what the meaning is this you know it's just it's a it's a it's a tiny symbol for the conscious type of answer if I can say that answer you know but it was off the street black stone okay and um and that was the that was that was what they formed and like I said it was for protection you know like I said at this time in this era see this what the people need to know from we in 2022 these so when you hear games and stuff you think in there like you said stuff you hear now you hear in Chicago you hear about these rappers now correct so at this time they are fighting for their life correct they are fighting for rights they are fighting for equal opportunities you know I'm saying so it's not how they mixed it but the the the problem came in where the people that posted to help us and save us was against them so now what you got out here today that they are using to keep him behind bars and stuff like that it's not his men not his people not his lessons not his nothing that he's about they never got my grandfather in jail for no gang activity wow that's the key part it's nothing gang activity right now he's here for the terrorist uh situation but nothing that was nothing that was like if you read it and go through it it's nothing that really stick it's like they really is just holding this man and how long has it been now for at least 30 plus years yeah yeah we on boss talk one on one one on one yeah we gonna talk