 How do we balance ministry and our personal life? How do you tell me how? No. I'd like to learn. That's an interesting question. And I think that if you ask 10 pastors, you'll probably get 10 nuanced answers. Because every one of us probably would see different applications of our lives in our ministry and things like that. So I can only give my perspective on that. My perspective, as it pertains to balancing what is called a ministry and a personal life, is I don't have a personal life. I never really have. I have a life that is ministry. Because listen, do you stop ministering at home? No. Do you stop ministering when you're a son to parents? No. No, I still was a minister to my parents when I lived under their roof. Yet to be married, I taught them Bible studies. I was a model of Christianity to them. I counseled them as a 20, 21, 22-year-old man. I counseled my parents because I had become saved and got in the Word of God. And then I became the Bible study teacher. So I was always a minister. When I met Marie, I was a minister as her boyfriend. When we got married, I was her minister as her husband. When we had children, I'm a minister to my children. And I've never been anything but a minister because I don't believe on a personal level that I have the David Rosales, just regular guy, and the David Rosales, who is the pastor. David Rosales is always a pastor, whether it's at home, whether it's in a store, whether it's driving. I'm not a good pastor when I drive. But when I'm driving and always, I'm not one who compartmentalizes. I'm one who is more holistic in that. I'm always a pastor at all times because that's my calling and that's just who I am. And so I've never had that real problem I never have. It's because I just am who I am and I am always. Marie and I will be driving and we're talking about things of the Lord, always. If it's not our children, it's going to be our church. At home, I was just mentioning in our conversation tonight, she sits next to me. She's reading a devotional thought to me from Spurgeon. And we're talking about that. And then I'm sharing with her that's our life. So that's who we are. When we have our friends, when we're hanging around with our friends, I'm always pastor, always am. I'm never just Dave, one of the guys. When I played sports, one of my first ministries in a church was I was played on the softball team for the church that I was becoming the assistant pastor in, I was the chaplain on the team. So even as the team chaplain, I was always even playing sports, a minister. See, so he called us to be ministers, every one of us, and we minister wherever it is that we are. And I think it would change your home a lot. I know if you're married, I guarantee you, it would change your home. If you saw yourself as a minister in that home, I guarantee you it'll change your whole home life, changes it because you know that it's your responsibility to speak as a man to other men, and as a husband to other husbands, a son to other sons, that you have ministry in your home. You always do, you always do. How was it possible for me at the age of 23 to minister to a father who was 47? How does that happen? How can a young man who's only two and a half years old in Christ teach his own father how to live for God? How's that happen? It happens because that young man took it seriously. And my father saw that and he said, there's been some changes in this man and I can trust him because I've seen what God has done in him. So that began when I was a young man and that has stayed to this day. So I'm always a pastor, always. It's kind of like what Tozer said, there's dividing between the sacred and the secular and they actually are fused together. That's right. Yeah, I taught Tozer that. Yeah.