 okay what on the first day of Christmas my true love gave to me a bad gonorrhea and a bong go back to our stupid directions you did some core I may not feel good but I'll feel better in a minute with that bong any pulse but Instagram and also not to be confused with bong yeah there's the bong made of glass with water and you smoke your pot out of it and then there's bong water you drink drink holy yeah they have the same effects though don't drink don't drink bong water anyway so baby you know the intro yeah you've done it it's juicy in here before yeah it's dripping today we are doing a movie review yes the Hindi film oh my god oh my freaking goodness uh OMG oh my god um this is a 2002 film directed by umesh 2002 I didn't realize sorry just like that uh 2012 okay I was gonna say wow I didn't realize it was 18 years old 2012 umesh shukla shukla yeah he also I think wrote part of it and then um say his name and bravesh mandala looks like also did it starring Akshay Kumar yeah Pradesh Rawal and and then obviously there's and then a couple other uh little characters uh this is gonna be a hundred spent spoiler review it came out 2012 I'm assuming you haven't seen it it's just how we do it just need to let you know if you haven't seen it go watch it come back unless you like to be spoiled you naughty because we're going to naughty we're going to do that uh but uh what was I gonna say I was gonna say something very important hmm spoiled I don't remember 2002 to 2012 okay space obviously I have no idea I don't know but yes uh a hundred spent spoiler review uh tomorrow no idea okay no idea I had something it's gone uh but Rick your initial thoughts hey this gave me I've been looking for a way to do like a grading scale for movie reviews for the longest time okay like to give things like I was inspired by world of dance actually because they have the the categories and then they give you the score and then you get a a score because in Johnny and I've been watching world of dance so uh this didn't score high for me um yeah I I uh I don't have a paragraph but I can't tell you the score that I gave it based on my 10 categories and I rate those categories on a scale of 1 to 10 and then that gives me an average grade uh yeah I I just um it for me most of the time felt like something if you had and I don't mean this this is the best analogy I can give it's not meant to be an insult it's meant to be the best way I can describe what I saw and how I felt it was as if a high school film group was given a million dollars to make a film and what they put together based on the writing the acting the story and the the presentation I appreciate the truths and things it was trying to convey I appreciate that intention but the delivery system with which it came and some of the problems I had with it in the writing and the the everything else was was not enough for me to like it gotcha I ended up enjoying it's not here's a here's what I'll say about it is it a great piece of cinema no nobody's and a scale on my grade scale I give it a d minus that's mine I'll explain how I came up with the d minus but uh yeah is it a great piece of cinema no but also right when it started I was like okay this is not this is right this is not cinema right uh at all agree right at the beginning I didn't tell I was like go because this is a masala film right um and so we've seen films like that that I've ended up enjoying and the main reason I ended up enjoying this is the so you want the conversation so you ultimately enjoyed it because of the conversation okay it was a ton of issues I had with it okay in terms of like if I was if I was being very critical yes obviously there's a ton of stuff wrong I kind of gave it a lot of leeway off the bat because I was like okay I can tell what kind of film this is right this is obviously if you come off of watching like um very realistic films like a gang of wasp her and we've been watching a lot of those and so that that does skew our uh but same a lot of issues even though I enjoyed pk more oh wait some stuff that's my comparison yeah but some stuff I had issues with in that as well same thing like supporting cast uh stuff like that some of the writing but I think the biggest strength so this was the conversation that it wanted to have which once again I think pk did it better but apparently this has an American adaptation which I believe you were in the second one of not really that's I believe somebody I believe well it is oh my god I've never seen but I believe that's what I read like there's like that's kind of the american-ish version um which apparently he was in oh god book two I was yeah I had a small part in it I have a little monologue I do I would actually equate it more to like Evan Almighty Bruce Almighty-ish style you know than uh pk uh what yeah no no I mean saying the style I know that's what I'm talking about I know you're just being very critical right now yeah uh which is fine uh but yeah no ultimately I enjoyed the conversation of it because I enjoy it when people pick apart what they're supposed to pick apart I appreciate that I appreciate it as long as it's done with some semblance of uh here's the problem I don't know if you stupid babies know this or not about me but I spent about a decade as a licensed minister I've I've been to bible college I've done a lot of theological studies and I find example differentiating this versus pk similar also we haven't seen pk in over a year and a half true it's very possible we might not like this but I guarantee I love pk I'm sure I would still like it and here's one of the reasons I like pk and why I comparatively dislike this in terms of the subject matter and questioning things right so in pk there is a gracious presenting of hypocrisy no for sure this one's definitely more heavy-handed this one's more heavy-handed but it's also in addition to the gracious representation of hypocrisy in pk that's just do you not see the contradictions with a with a basis of isn't it just common sense that there's this doesn't make sense versus these hard and fast definitive uh this is the way it's going to be when it definitively is not for example you you cannot if you have any capacity not even at a scholarly level but if you understand textual criticism from the writings of antiquity and scriptures themselves whether you're comparing the Quran to the text of of Hinduism which there's countless ones of them to the 66 books of the Protestant Bible to the additional apocryphal writings of the the catholic church and the pseudepigrapha you do not have all roads lead to Rome they don't all lead you don't have pluralism in world religions and there's four thousand planetary religions let alone the five major religions so this just painting of the brush that every belief system is is going to give you the truth that you need those belief systems themselves disallow that and i have a hard time with that kind of can't we all get along trying to oversimplify things that the text themselves and the belief systems themselves definitively disallow pk didn't try to get into that territory that's what i said this one was definitely more heavy-handed for not as scholarly aware yeah like i said i enjoyed the writing of pk a lot more yeah i had similar problems in terms of film uh in terms of like supporting cast and some of some of the cheesy writing and stuff like that sure in that way but um yeah i obviously i had questions with what it said but i kind of once again i wasn't holding this at a very high regard in terms of yeah listen to this i don't think anybody's supposed to take this film very seriously my interpretation of it was that they were just trying to especially with hinduism obviously that was the main religion they were focusing on because india is probably the biggest religion it was one of those they i think they said the christian guy like once they they called on it basically once and yeah he quoted he quoted yes but what's the bible he quoted the karan he he quoted the hindu texts they were focusing a little more on the hindu text correct than the than the other ones and yes i had questions about it but i think the the overall thing of it they wanted to say was um especially with uh hinduism uh at least from what i can tell was you know focus more on you know helping others and and your relationship with whatever god you're talking about as opposed to their overall uh i guess idea that they all lead to one i understand that they said that and you can take offense to that if you want but i i kind of just brush that off really yeah that yeah i we could have a philosophical debate on whether that's true or not obviously yeah that's kind of just how i took it because i was like yeah obviously that's not really the case but i kind of took something different from it which which is one of the things i appreciated i always appreciate a film especially talking which we don't have a lot here because i i don't really know why evan almighty and personal mighty oh the only two i can really think of at least in recent history that directly go after and it's always christianity it's always christianity yeah because that's obviously the biggest really well yeah the ones that are most recent and those are comedy is one of the best if you haven't seen this film a really really good film with robert duvall is the apostle did you see that it was a small film that duval did and he was nominated for it and it is i saw that one it is really good and you know what's another one that touches on it it's not the primary subject matter but there will be blood is pretty strong yeah that one with that but it is for the majority of it because so much of what's gone on in america yeah but yeah that is christianity those you couldn't obviously compare to this because those are no cinema cinema no genre wise you're right to compare it to evan almighty evan almighty and personal mighty obviously those are i think in terms of overall film a better film just because i have a lot of issues with like small supporting characters some of those some of the cheesy overall writing although i did appreciate the main guy for the most especially when you got in the courtroom it's except for some once again cheesy writing i thought he did a good job i would like to see more from him he thinks actually seems like an actor um that i probably did theater of at one point um and then definitely on board yeah oh we definitely need it right when he came on i was like he seems like he's in a different class and he is it was it was very clear who was the thespian in this in this film so like he showed up and he was the thespian it's like when you see nissarid and sha in in deborah yeah he's like oh he sticks out like a sore thumb correct correct doesn't he yeah um so please let me know i already know we've seen a few things i think he was in uh mcbull i believe with nissarid and right it was mcbull or him and nissarid and were the yeah yeah yeah there were yes which obviously was great yes but i would like to i know he's a legend and we need to just like nissarid and we need to focus on but we have a lot we know we know we have a lot more uh but yeah that's a little side note i thought akshay was akshay akshay was akshay it was akshay that's what i expected uh and i mean sincerely he didn't have a lot to work with no he really the majority of the time he was just standing and i'm sure a bunch of stuff went over our head because he was playing uh krishna right so i guarantee a lot of the little thing we actually looked up uh because my wife watched it with me this little thing apparently krishna has something he's always i knew i knew that wasn't just a random full away thing i was like there had to be a reason behind it so there's probably a bunch of those little things correct that were that were totally over our head correct we're not even though i'm actually glad we saw this now as opposed to way before because we were familiar with the sport at the beginning and what they were doing probably just i know okay yeah let's talk that i i will mention that was pretty great all right at the beginning i'm like oh cool he's in this and then no the rest of it they got that one one moment that was really worth the price of admission for me that was probably my favorite moment of the film yeah it was probably his dance number that was fun um and yeah if i had seen this if i remember right when we saw pk this was coming in c omg a very very similar genre i'm glad we didn't yeah because if i had seen this definitely aired it and it would i would i would have compared it but also like as much as i i didn't like this movie i don't i'm not upset with this movie i'm not like angry with this movie and anybody who says they like it it's like okay you can have your taste on that for me i just that i just don't want to yeah i have a lot of other things i'd rather do go flip your boat go right ahead i'd rather be watching a lot of other stuff uh and it does my grading for it i'm really i'm really happy about my little rating scale um uh no it's great you want to know it here do you want to know it it's all right it's 10 categories okay based on the categories that are customarily the primary categories that we award the academy awards so it's 10 categories and you rate them on a scale of 1 to 10 okay story slash screenplay i know they can be different but i put them into the same category right so story and screenplay direction cinematography acting just across the board costumes and makeup visual effects sound design score production design editing and you give them a scale of 1 to 10 and my scale you're gonna like my scale if it's a 10 it's flawless gotcha nine nearly perfect eight solid seven average six below average five bad once you get below five then it's just fun ripping on the score because if it's more than bad number four is unacceptable slash lazy three is unwatchable slash they don't care two is insulting slash they're mocking the art number one is an abomination stop making film but i'm rarely ever gonna go below five so based on that scale yeah this for me got a d minus because the majority of my scores were basically sixes and sevens of average and below average i didn't give anything higher than a seven gotcha for this so for me i give it a rate as far as cinema but i can understand i get it like i said i why somebody might give it a higher score just for their own personal preference i don't get it i really don't understand but for me like the reason i just enjoyed it is i enjoyed the conversation i i'm yeah i'm not on time i'm always good with regardless of if i agree with the conversation not questioning of stuff especially religion because i have lots of problems with big religion and i'm with you yeah as long as the questions have some semblance of so for example if you were to hear me start talking as if i knew about soccer how would that make you feel knowing what you know i know about soccer and i started talking like i was an expert well how would how would you feel about that i don't know if that's a fair comparison i don't know that this was talking like it was an expert it was trying to no it wouldn't be a it wouldn't be a comedy if it was doing that just like evin almighty is not they're not doing this philosophical thing they're just making you laugh at certain things no but here's the difference for me for like pk and omg pk presented it as is god with a question mark this presented it as god is he straight up says at one point akshay says i wrote it down he straight up says to him a god his sentence god is incomplete without his devotee well like i said i might have been going more off of hinduism and so if you're looking at it from which obviously you would from a christian's perspective i understand well that doesn't even a christian perspective from a belief system uh text from antiquity proper exogenical uh looking at texts and making like i said at the outset when you make a broad stroke and say that all belief systems take you to truth that's categorically false so for you to have a conversation about it i'm looking at you hearing you talk about things as if you're being an authority because actually is god saying all religious beliefs lead you to truth i can't take that conversation seriously because it's just not they don't they they they are categorically some of them are antagonistically against the other belief systems and say it's our way or the highway i understand okay that's why i can't listen to this conversation i just didn't it just didn't bother me because right i i i will always allow a film to tell whatever it wants to tell and i'm not gonna say i agree with it obviously i don't agree with a lot of people uh on most things yeah uh i'm a very opinionated person uh but i will always allow the film to tell whatever story it wants and i'll be like okay that was that was your story do i think it's strange yeah i do oh yeah like i don't i don't have a bone to pick with it in any way in terms of like feeling it's propagating some false agenda then it needs to be stopped or something ridiculous like that you give it a d minus that was for the technical aspects of it that's he heard my subjective undercurrent it was and it wasn't just devilish it was negatively devilish well no anyways i just didn't like it that's fine sorry guys uh let us know what you thought of it let us know why we're a bunch of morons i'm sure you will yeah down below as you always do yeah uh especially me threaten to unsubscribe so i can block you or at least talk about how stupid an opinionated i am but also this was a the uh hindi suggestion from patreon this month they in court was the regional one did you know that if you were on patreon you can actually any any tier from dollar and up uh you can it's a collective thing yeah it's not it's not mean what you suggest yeah clarify yeah uh because a lot of people are very upset that this got picked so yes but you do get the option we we uh i do a poll at the beginning of every month you poll people get to put what they want and people upload it i take the foremost uploaded ones so uh obviously if there's about 600 patreons so uh the a lot of and i separated via hindi and regional as well because they got upset because they said hindi will always win right so i had to do no we would do too that's why we do too um and as the the only movie reviews yeah we obviously just do more than two films every month yeah but you get that option but so if you like that have a patreon links in the description below let us know what film we should watch next also let us know on puri yeah and necessary and recommendations down below