 Welcome back to the workforce and plus TV Africa. We had straight to our second conversation right here and we look at what all sports this morning. Of course in sports we're looking at Manchester United getting knocked out of the UFA Champions League following their loss to at least come a drink the round of 16 on Tuesday night. Now the loss meant that Manchester United completed five years of a dreadful trophy drought but isn't that what's on the mind of a football lovers and that's because this loss also implies that the Portuguese great Cristiano Ronaldo will complete a season without a club trophy for the very first time since 2009 to 2010 season. Now the vast majority of football lovers believe that this is the end of an era that was heavily dominated by two great Liana Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. This morning we have a guest joining the conversation. We'll look at the implication for Manchester United and the way forward for them of course the stakeholders looking at Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. But Monday Thamas joins the conversation this morning. He's a sports presenter. Monday it's good to have you join us on a Friday. Good morning that's fantastic to also be talking to you this morning. I hope you're doing great. Very well thank you for asking. So let's just share your thoughts on the UF Champions League generally the performance of the clubs and you know has been so far. For Manchester United I mean that just sums up your entire season. I mean what are you expecting? You've got the goal to Ronaldo. He has done the very best for you. Six goals in the UF Champions League and that's the most by Manchester United player. He scored most goals for Manchester United in the English Premier League. He has done his feet. I mean a lot of people are ready in the conversation if Ronaldo is finished or if Messi is totally finished or if this players are losing touch. Ronaldo at the age of 37 greatest goal scorer here in history for club and country. 807 goals. What else are you expecting? I mean football has changed. I mean football has completely changed. Players are getting better with age. The likes of Benzema. No players contributed to more goals this season than Karim Benzema. He's 33. Look at Robert Lewandowski. He's 33. He's still firing. Karim Benzema is actually 34. But I'm just taking a look at how football has changed in a dynamic. Players are getting better with age. I mean especially the strikers. Latini by Moe. Okay but just before we're delving to you know Monday thermals. Can you hear our speech? So just before we get into delving to the analysis looking at you know the live and times of the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi right here. What's your think on the entire UEFA Champions League? Well my take is that it's quite a shame that they are off and it's quite very unfortunate that they played it with very average players. Well we seem to be losing connection with Monday thermals as soon as we're able to have this connection. Then of course we continue with the conversation right here. Well Kofi you know a lot of persons are really talking. I mean with the overall performance football lovers across entirely seem to be focused on you know Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi. But I come to you just before we move away. So Monday let's continue with your thoughts this morning. All right little Messi is quite unfortunate that he's playing with average players and that is why Paris and Gimena are out of the part of the UEFA Champions League. They've got potentials but what happens when you don't maximize this potentials. Look at Neymar Giulia great player. He's got what he takes to be one of the best footballers on earth but then he lacks discipline. Donnaruma what actually happened that night in Benabao? Donnaruma you are Gianluighi but you're not Gianluighi before. What are you doing at the back? You're literally flirting. Karen Benzema one of the most potent strikers in world football right now is in front of you and you're holding the ball. Look at Marquinhos. That third goal Karen Benzema just needed to poke it in. It was Marquinhos who was not able to clear the ball out. So little Messi at 34 is still one of the greatest in football. He's quite unfortunate that he's playing with average footballers. So no one to take a sweep on Lionel Messi crushing out of the UEFA Champions League. I think Paris Saint-Germain got to fix things. Live more in St-Germain out of this. You said that Messi is in an average team but this is a team that got to the UCL semi-final I think last season. It's a team that has also... Have they been to the final yet? Please remind me. Paris Saint-Germain have been in the finals. They played by in the 8-20. Fantastic. Yes, yes, yes. So I mean they've had the likes of Unai Mere, Tuchel and Ko. You have Messi in the team. You have Mbappe in that team. Mbappe. You have Neymar. You have great midfielders in that team. Marquinhos is a good defender. You have players that other teams would love to have in that team. They are players like Van Aldo who can't even make the first eleven because that team is that good. They have the best goalkeepers. Donoroma is the best keeper in Europe from the last Europa competition. So would it be fair for you to say Messi is in an average team and has Messi lost his sparkle as it were. Is it over for this player like it is maybe for Cristiano. It's quite sad that football numbers are in this conversation already. Messi at the age of 34 just allowed him to have this dance. A lot of the players enjoy themselves. I can remember in 2019 when Iron Robin said good-bye to football. Had tears dropping down in my eyes because since Iron Robin left football, what we've seen with that beautiful left foot. It's quite sad that a lot of people are already rushing to say little Messi's lost touch is completely finished. I'm like are you kidding me. Ten goals in the league on and ten assists in the league on and that is joint highest. Five goals in the Europa Champions League. Although it's gotten just two late goals but as a player who's not playing the number nine position as a player who's you're playing from the wing who's you're doing a bit of a number ten role. I mean what else you expect from me. Me is getting in the goals and I'll say time and time again anywhere anytime. Lionel Messi is with a bunch of average players. Maybe they've got potentials but until they prove me wrong with their performance says then I'll give it to them. Kylian Boppe is the only player I can pick out of Paris Saint-Germain sport. Neymar what happened to him on the night. I know Messi missed that penalty that should have given Paris Saint-Germain a two-goal advantage in Paris but of course it can happen to anyone. Anyone can miss the penalty but anyone cannot be flitting in the back when you have time and been looking at you. Anyone should be able to know that where you are being attacked and you have no option is to clear the ball out. Makinos I know he was on the picture but he should have cleared that ball out. He tried to pass and unfortunately he got to Benzema and that was the end of the game for Paris Saint-Germain. Okay so let's talk about the PSG team. You said they have average players. I still disagree with you but I'll give it to you. They don't have a coaching problem. You know you look at what Adonaroma did and the fact that a goalkeeper who was won the Champions League previously with Real Madrid he has experienced and Real Madrid have not gotten to the final of Champions League since he left Coelho Navas was on the bench. He was the same keeper who was in the number one keeper starting for PSG when they got to the final of the Champions League so he has sort of a module. Is this a coaching problem for PSG? Absolutely not. Mauricio Portuno is a fine coach. I can remember you explained this for Paris Saint-Germain. You're a fine player as well. What did you do with Tour de Montsville in 2019? You qualified them to the UEFA Champions League when they eventually lost to Liverpool with no budget or whatsoever. Not even a no budget. No budget. So you can't tell me it's Mauricio Portuno who is to be blamed in this particular situation. He's a prolific manager. So let's also talk about the fact that you know the season the UEFA Champions League has left a lot you know had broken. I mean it feels like the the entire you know Champions League is about Messi and Ronaldo crashing out. But of course you still have the fact that Messi and Ronaldo still have a chance to prove it. We're talking about the World Cup. Now unfortunately you have the fact that Argentina has actually qualified sometime. Now the big question would be do you see Ronaldo you know taking the Portugal club you know to winning the World Cup and qualifying for it at the time where you're having the playoff. Another chance to prove himself. Certainly another chance for him but winning the World Cup it's going to be very daunting but it's not impossible for Cristiano Ronaldo. He's a big game player. 807 goals, great goal scorer for club and country. What are you saying? He is going to show. He's a show man and he's going to produce some incredible stuff in the World Cup but it's once in about a time they take on Turkey in the playoffs and they have some players who are not going to be preaching for them and it's not going to be a difficult task but I'm saying Cristiano now though that chance you talk about if it's given to him at the World Cup it's going to it's certainly going to perform. We're sitting here years after still talking like Messi just pointed out about Cristiano and Lionel. Why is it that we've not had other players challenge and break into this top two of course Lewandowski is tried and he's done his best but he's nowhere near the levels that these two have gotten to at their peak. Neymar left Bacca to go to PSG to become the world's best player. You know what happened and if these two are on a swan song or rather on a decline who do you expect, my second question, who do you expect can step into their shoes? All right and it's let me tell you why Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are still the signature in world football right now. It's not a see if the other players are not doing great. Killian Boppe is outrageously good. Erlin Berhalen although this season he has been injured for the most part of it. He scored 16 Bundesliga goals and that's something for a player who had just played barely a half of the season and now Messi and Cristiano now though I think it's just about media hype. The media are still focusing on this players. Yes they're still talking about this players more than they should. I think they should also let the new names come up. Erlin Hazard prolific, great winger although in Real Madrid he's not doing great but what about his days at Chelsea? He was not hyped. He was not talked about as Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo have been talked about. So but Monday just before we let you go because we're costing out of time so I bring you back to my very first question and I'd like to you know take your thoughts on the entire performance of the UF Champions League I mean looking at all of the teams that have actually played all the clubs if you like to say which would you say is actually or you know has been in best performance? Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich is always a team to watch anytime, any day and also we are not going to overlook Manchester City who are desperate for the title Pep Guardiola as well. So for me I think Bayern Munich are one of the biggest team in the quarterfinals and as well as Manchester City. What about of course yeah what about Villarreal? Villarreal yes they did miracles in Turin. The other night scoring three goals in 14 minutes is also a team to watch of course knowing that Unai Emery someone who knows how to play European football is right there but this is his first quarterfinals in the UF Champions League and let's just give him a chance, Unai Emery. So some persons will say you still need to look at clubs like Chelsea and Liverpool you know in that same analysis. Thomas Tuchel my word Chelsea is blessed to have him right now at this crazy times. He's a great manager and this is when I want to talk about how football is no no no longer one man's business just like it was some time ago. You've got to have great defenders look and blow canting the middle of the pack. You've got quality goalkeeper Edward Mendy, Afghans, Afghans winner, FIFA best goalkeeper Roudiga is out there in your defense line and as well as Christian said Thiago Soba the age of 37 super so Chelsea have got a team as well. Liverpool the best team in the English Premier League for me. They're better than Manchester City. I don't know how Manchester City is on top but on the 10th of April we'll find out. I know I know Messi could not allow this conversation and without mentioning Liverpool it's okay. Well that's all right. Thank you so much. Next season we'll be mentioning Arsenal. Thank you very much for your time Monday. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. Who's John is live on the breakfast this morning. Thank you. Appreciate you for your time as well. Right well the best we're seeing. The best man win. Messi don't worry and next season we'll be mentioning Arsenal as well. That's not it. We're always working projects. Well many thanks for being part of the conversation. It's a beautiful Friday and of course that's an enlightened note. We wish you the very best this weekend and we hope that all things will be very equal and everything will be perfect. 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