 So I'm a bit new to Rand, so this might sound like a stupid question, but... It's no stupid question. Lots of stupid answers. I read on an article that Rand calls the romantic relationship between man and woman. From a woman's point of view, it should be a romantic surrender. It was quoted like that. And I felt a bit like the word surrender would be a bit synonymous with sacrifice. And I read a bit more and she said it's a surrender but not a brutal one. Not a what? Brutal one. Brutal one. Yeah, and obviously I was a bit confused about that, so I was wondering if you could explain it a bit more. Thank you. That's one of the toughest questions I've ever got. Because Rand had a whole theory of femininity, masculinity, and sex, and relationships between men and women. And I'd say most of that is more the realm of psychology than it is the realm of philosophy. And my understanding of philosophy is okay, but my understanding of psychology is not great. She viewed the essence of femininity. Not that a woman was all this, but in that aspect of any human being that you were feminine. She viewed femininity as what she called heroism. Looking up to a hero. And that hero was a man. The man who went up to home to hunt. The man who goes out to do what he does. And that that's what it meant to be female, to have that attitude towards the male, the masculine fuel. And that not in, and if you read the novels, you see this, not in kind of, the surrender is not in, you know, having an argument. So I'm a female, so I surrender to you whatever you say if that's right, right? It's really in sex. So she viewed sex as this incredibly important fundamental, fundamentally important to human nature and fundamentally to the human experience. And she said that the essential characteristic of femininity in sex is the surrender, the being penetrated in a sense. Now again, you could accept that or not, right? It's more psychological than anything else. But it's a woman is to the extent that the feminine part of her is to kind of worship the masculine and to surrender in sex to him. And what masculine means for Ryan is masculinity is about controlling nature. It's about orientation to reality. It's about changing nature. If the woman is oriented towards the man, the man is oriented towards reality, towards nature, towards, towards the challenges of survival. And in that sense, men are stronger and they protect women, right? So there's that, that kind of relationship will pass me historically that kind of relationship. You know who, who, have you read any of Grant's novels? Partially. Which one? I'm Atlas Shrug. Atlas Shrug. Even a part of you, the small part that you read or whatever part you read. I mean, the hero is a woman. A woman in this book is written in 1957. This is a woman who runs a railroad. She's smarter than anybody else in the book except maybe one guy, right? She's the smartest person in the whole book. She is the most passionate person in the whole book. She, nobody could run a railroad better than she can. She's the more competent person in the book, right? But she's looking in the novel. In a sense, she's looking for a man she could look up to. She's looking for somebody she can really admire. And that's her orientation for feminine side, right? For sex, for romantic relationships. And yeah, I mean, and that surrenders that, you know, the masculine dominating in a sense, the feminine in the sexual act. Not in business. In business, she dominated everybody, right? She was strong and she was powerful. But in the relationship, in that romantic relationship, manifest in sex, she was looking to surrender. And that would be, that would be kind of the, I think, the psychological interpretation. And there's a beautiful painting that actually, painted by the name of Cappelletti, that hung in Iron Man's living room. And it's above the fireplace or whatever. And it's a painting that divides people very strongly. Oh, it's very powerful because it projects this. And I find the painting really projects this vision of femininity. Because it's a beautiful woman, a powerful woman with penetrating eyes. Eyes remind me of Iron Man's eyes, these strong eyes. But she's on her knees, her hands, she's naked. She's on her knees, her hands are behind her back, and she's looking up. And she's got that sense of power, strength, dominance, and surrender at the same time. And I think that was the ideal woman for Iron Man, that vision of what a woman could be. But that's, again, more psychology than thought. Isn't surrender in itself too like an act of power almost, right? Like the act of surrender is like a will, it's a willful action. Sure, it's a willful action and it's a willful action over yourself. You have to be willing and you're not going to surrender to anybody. You don't need to surrender to that which you admire and that which you love and that which you want to surrender to and you've chosen to surrender to. So, you know, I personally think it makes sense. And my experience with men and females, it makes sense. But I understand that, you know, I know particularly in the world in which we live, people find that. I think it's, I think one of the important observations is, and philosophically and I think just empirically, is men and women are different. They're not the same. It's not one is smaller than the other, it's certainly men are stronger than women. But psychologically there's something different there. And defining what that is, I think that's what man is doing. Do you know the Me Too movement in the US? I mean, I find the Me Too movement very interesting, right? I mean, I'm horrified by the stories that they tell and how men treat women. It's just disgusting and awful. But, you know, during Kavanaugh's hearings there was this thing about this guy jumped on the girl and he lay on top of her and this traumatized her, she says for life. Well, guys jump on one another all the time. And that's not as threatening as when a guy jumps on a girl. When a guy jumps on a girl, that is not acceptable and that is very threatening. And it should be very threatening. So there's something about the fact that men generally are stronger than women that has psychological effects, rational psychological effects on their relationship. It's the best I can do. There's not a psychological effect. I feel like there's a clear answer in my mind that there's a talking about the idea of surrender and masculinity and femininity and men and women are not the same. The biological basis for that, especially in the context of family where a woman is surrendering or at least putting a great deal of trust in a man when they choose to start a family, for example, a woman is making herself incredibly vulnerable and saying, hey, I trust you. Yes, I think that's right. I think there's a sort of vulnerability there and you're going to stick around. You can take care of this child. But of course women can take care of themselves, particularly in a modern context. And this is the challenge. 500 years ago we wouldn't be having this conversation because it's obvious. But in a modern context in which most values and most wealth creation and most jobs and most careers affect the mind, where there's no difference between men and women, you can see why people object to the idea of differences. So a woman today can have a baby and feed it and clothe it and take care of it and live with it, buy herself without a man and do fine. I don't think there's any question about that because our world is different today because our world relies less on muscle, less on strength and more on the mind. But there are biological differences. I don't want to spend the whole time talking about family and masculinity. But the biological differences, I think, are what matter. A woman has to carry the child. And the fact of the differences biologically manifests itself in differences psychologically. But I'm not a psychologist to tell you exactly what those differences are. By the way, if you enjoy the show, if you are on regularly and you get value from what I do, then I'd appreciate support to make this show possible and to keep it going. We will get on a much more regular schedule starting in October and we will be doing a lot more shows starting in October. I'm going to be traveling a lot less next year. And through the fourth quarter of this year. So once I'm traveling less, we'll get a lot more shows. 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