 Hello, hi, everyone. So we'll have people on the YouTube channel as well. So we'll begin. Hello, I'm Shantal Almeda-Decosta. I work at the One World Project. The One World Project is an initiative to examine a diverse set of inputs and perspectives regarding the introduction of technology and the evolution of technology as part of elections. The project began in May 2021 with a focus on blockchains, but now it has broadened its scope. It's hosted at Hasgeek, a platform that supports multiple such initiatives, but usually around technology design, law, policy, systems, data, and related topics. The collaborations take place through user-generated context, shared practitioners. And today we are collaborating with ADR, the Association for Democracy. ADR, a citizen-led, non-political, non-governmental organization, has been working for more than 20 years with the objective of bringing electoral and political reform so as to improve democracy and governance in India. So recently, we had a session about criminality in elections with the journalists Sabha Nakri and Uthpal Pathak, who spoke about their experiences in the field with dons and Bahubali's and criminals' MLAs. So that's why we're especially happy to be having this session with the creators of the Myneta app to come speak to us about their attempts to decriminalize Indian politics. Our speakers today are Mr. Jasgirath Singh, who came up with the concept of the app and Ms. Divya Arora, who handles the day-to-day operations. Mr. Singh is the founder and CEO of Webrosoft Solutions, providing IT services. He, along with ADR, is the recipient of the NASCARMS Social Innovation Award 2011 for the most innovative views of IT to process and disseminate election candidate information to voters all over India. Ms. Arora has been working with the Association for Democratic Reforms since 2016, and she is a full-stack developer with over five years' work experience in both front-end and back-end web technologies. For the audience questions, if you wish to speak, please use the raise hand function, and you'll be called upon. Or if you're joining us through YouTube, you can put your chats there. And we have Nita monitoring that. I will soon be pasting a link to the ADR voter awareness survey in the chat. So please fill that out. And now I'll hand it over to our speakers. Hi, Chantil. Thank you so much for having us today, especially thanks to OneVote for organizing this. And we are glad to be talking about this subject, of course, very close to our heart. So let me begin by telling the story part of it, a quick overview of how it all started and where it is going. So ADR, as an organization, it came into being in 1999. This was on one fine day when some professors in IAM Bangalore led by Professor Trilotan Sastri. They had this feeling that enough is enough. Indian politics is going from bad to worse, and things need to be improved. So they decided to file a case in Delhi High Court to demand that anyone who wants to fight elections in Indian system, basically any state or the general election for the parliament, they should tell people about their background, because most voters do not know what the background of their candidates are. And the plea was basically that for the voter to make an informed choice, this is very important that they should know what kind of candidates they are, what kind of criminal cases they have, what kind of assets they have. Will they be able to represent us, the voter, in the parliament? Will they be able to be one of us representing us? So that was the whole idea behind it. So they went to Delhi High Court, Delhi High Court, over a year or so, they accepted this plea and the case was won by ADR. But it was not that simple. All the political party decided to not allow this. And they amended the law, saying that no candidates will be needed to give their details, because we control the parliament and we make the laws. And we'll amend the People's Representation Act to specifically prohibit such a requirement. ADR again went to Supreme Court challenging this amendment and again won. And this amendment, which was to be underlined, supported by all political parties, was quashed by Supreme Court, saying that it was ultra-virus of the Constitution, because Constitution says that the common man has the right to speak and the right to vote is part of that. The common man says that I want to elect this person as my representative. And that right to speak needs basic information as a background for him to speak in a sensible manner. So that is, informed choice is a very, very important part of the right to vote and right to speak. So that is how it came about. It was implemented finally in 2003. And the first elections that happened were Gujarat State Assembly elections, in which this affidavit became compulsory. So it has been 20 years. Today we are in 2002 and we started in 2003. So these affidavits have been coming along for the last 20 years. And ADR then started in 2003 an exercise to take all information out of those affidavits and bring it into the public domain. Because ADR felt that having won that such important case, this information should reach the common man, the common voter, because otherwise it will be of no use. So they started initially doing it using Microsoft Excel and all the data was read and some reports were prepared and they were given to the media. And that process went on till 2008 for five or six years. And then in 2009, it was general elections to the Lok Sabha. And that is when we decided that we need a better tool. We need to make a better use of technology to deliver better quality reports, more accurate reports, and more types of reports and more different avenues and more channels of information dissemination. And to make it happen, we created this custom made software which we called election watch software. So that was created in 2009. And primarily the idea was that distributed teams can do data entry. For example, in Microsoft Excel only one person or two people can do it and then you have to merge and there are a lot of difficulties. And I presume we are talking to technical people so that is why I am giving all these details. So we decided to go web-based. We created this web-based system where there was a SQL database at the back end. And this made the whole process very simple and more efficient and more powerful. We could deploy more people working parallel and we could implement workflows wherein at least multiple people should have checked this information because this is a very sensitive information. There are criminal cases and there are IPC codes of all the people who are open testing elections. So we thought it's a good idea to do a lot of checks on that data. So we created workflows and that ultimately resulted into once we had this data coming in a database we could put it on a website, put it on an SMS channel. In 2009, people had a lot of feature phones. So smartphones was not that big a thing in 2009. Most Indians used to have feature phones where they could access SMS. So we created a service wherein people could just SMS their pin codes and our system would respond with multiple SMS is three or four or five saying, these are the candidates in your constituency and these are there, these many criminal cases and this is their assets and so on. So it was very successful and a lot of people were using that SMS service. And then we created this portal that we are talking about today, myneta.info, which is part of today's discussion, myneta app and portal. So it came out of that exercise and then there was no looking back. Once myneta.info went live and smartphones, in next five years or so, smartphones and internet became so widespread that there was a lot of traffic and a lot of people, a lot of publicity and this myneta.info became this repository of choice for entire media, all the researchers, universities, colleges, everyone looking at political data. And that is from where it started traveling to the masses also and newspapers started doing a lot of stories about it. So from that portal, then we went to this myneta app. We thought, okay, let us give more power to the people. So the app pretty much did the same thing with some additional features, like allowing people to share this information with their friends and so on. So some social features in that. So that is the big picture of it. And so I think Divya has made a presentation. We would like to show that presentation also. And Divya, is it possible? Are you okay if we start a presentation and give some more inputs on? Yeah, sure. Yes, sure. All right. So Divya, can you please share? I'll just quickly go through that and then Divya will talk about the details of how myneta works. I'll just fill in some more on that. So yeah, this is technology for democratic reforms. So myneta app is a part of that. ADR have already given the background, so I think I'll not repeat next. Yeah, so myneta.info, it has terminal financial educational details of all the candidates. Also their income expenditure statements because anyone who fights an election also has to stay within limits on what they spend, how much they can spend. Those limits are very often, I should say they are breached more often than followed, but still, because it's part of what people can see and make their minds about which candidates are good and which are bad. So we share that information with everyone on the portal. And then we also share information about political parties and their donations. So how much money they are making and what they are spending it on and so yeah, next please. Yeah, so this is the history I've already, I think given most of it. So let us continue to the next. Okay, so these are our board of trustees, people who make it possible. Next. So our mission is to improve governments and strengthen democracy by continuous work on electoral and political reforms. That is what we have been doing for the last 23 years. This is broadly what we do, if we have to break up. So we do one exercise called election watch. I talked about that primarily, the affidavits part of it, the candidate information part of it. Then the second is political party watch. We also look at data of political parties. They file a lot of returns telling about their donations, their expenditures, their file income tax return. So we analyze all of that and we make it accessible to people via our platform, people and influencers like media and journalists, they use this data a lot. Then we use, we have this very strong legal team which has won so many PILs for us and that is the base of all the technology that we are using because we won all these cases and this became possible because of that. So we continue to do that also. And then there is communications part of it because all this data, once it is collected and analyzed, it needs to be communicated to people who only then it becomes useful. That is where Divya comes in actually. Next. Our impact, yeah, so a lot of media coverage, a lot of stories, we get a lot of attention, we are happy about it. But that is where citizens also are very important because they are our primary customers, so to say. They are our primary target. So media helps us to reach our primary target. Next. Lots of awards and recognition. We are thanks to everyone who gave it to us. Next. Yeah, so even president of India gave us a big reward. Next, thank you. So yeah, so what we do is this MyNeta platform, MyNeta.info portal and MyNeta.app. We make online and offline campaigns to make it more popular to tell people because a lot of India is not online, a lot of it is offline. So because online is the most efficient channel of information dissemination, we do offline programs to tell them about the portal and apps and so that a lot of people come to know about it. And we gain users by doing that. So that is what we keep doing, motor awareness campaigns. Next. Yeah, next, yeah, so this is some of the pictures here. So a lot of coverage, good coverage. So the app, we keep promoting it and the portal, we keep promoting it and adrindia.org is another side part of it. It is the main part actually, it is our primary website but that is where we put in, we display most of the reports that we prepare. So there is slight difference between MyNeta.info and adrindia, adrindia has reports which are primarily meant for media and for the academicians and researchers and so on. They are summary reports usually, one state election for example, we just had was Punjab and we created a 70 page report on that and it's there on adrindia.org. MyNeta.info in comparison, because there were 1300, 1300 candidates in Punjab election, full details of all their affidavits, every bank detail, every, you know, their liabilities, their assets, all details are there on MyNeta.info. So MyNeta.info is much expanded variant of those reports. So that is there on, these are the two portals that we have. Yeah, next. I think this is what Divya would be continuing with. I'll just wrap up my part of it. And so this is, you know, so what I talked about is, you know, primarily about our organization trying to spend on democracy by making the voters aware about political parties and candidates and their backgrounds. So that is primarily what we do and all the information that we use, you know, that comes from the affidavits that are given on oath by the candidates themselves. So we don't create any information. We don't do our own investigations and come up with our own data and so on. So either it's RTI that gives us information from different sources in the government or in the, you know, different organizations like election commission of India and so on. Or it is, you know, the affidavits filed by the candidates and the political parties and so on. So that is our primary source of information. And I think I would request my colleague, Divya, to give more details about the portal now, you know, and the app, the technicals of it. And after that, I think we can take any questions. Is that all? If Chantil has any inputs, maybe she can... I'm sure Divya will share, but we just wanted to know about some impacts that have happened from, you said many people using the app and the platform to find out about this thing. Have you heard any like information from the voter side? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, 2009 we started. So I think in the last three or four years, we continuously get a lot of feedback and a lot of information and a lot of people, you know, telling us that, you know, they have been using this for the, you know, last many, many years and, you know, they continue to use it as a primary. For example, you know, the poster that you made yesterday, I put it on my Facebook and somebody commented on it, one of my friends, oh, you guys are, you know, creating this. I have been using it for the last many years. So this is on my Facebook right now. This guy is from Chennai. So we are very happy that, you know, a lot of people are using it. This is just an example, you know, we probably see more than 100 media reports in every election, you know, that... So these are all major media outlets, you know, NDTV, CNN, all TV channels, all newspapers. So we get a lot of good coverage and of course, you know, we get feedback from people saying that this is, you know, this is very helpful in talking about the subject, first of all, and then of course, you know, making the decisions about people because this is one source which is completely unbiased. Usually, you know, political parties will never tell about their weaknesses or their wrongdoings and they will keep marketing their own stuff. So this is one source which is unique in the sense that it is unbiased and, you know, neutral from all perspectives. So, yeah. Did I answer your question? So, Divya should continue next. Is it? Yeah. So first of all, I would like to thank Hasgain for giving me opportunity to share this platform with my mentor, just get it, sir. Thank you so much for that. So as you all know, I am associated with the area for like past five years now and I primarily work on both the websites and all the web tools that we use for the analysis purposes. So today I will be showing you all basic UI or basic work through of a main website, myneta.info. So we all know that we have that much information on our platform, but usually people don't know where they can find that information. So it is very important for them to get an idea that which tab they should visit to get the information. So I will be primarily covering all this thing in today's session. So I will just give you a walkthrough of a website and then I will also share UI of my app, myneta app and where you can find it, how to download it, all that stuff. So should I start with my presentation? So, okay, just give me a sec. So this is what a main page look like, myneta website homepage. It is a very simple page with the like very clean UI. You can have all. I just want to come up with the screen. I don't see it. Do you see it, Chantan? No, I don't see it either. Okay, just give me a second. Yeah. Now is it coming? Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah. So this is a main page, myneta.inforce homepage. The UI is quite simple, clean. Every election type and every main data that we host is listed on the menu path. There is an advanced section also where you can search about the specific meta or constancy that you want to know about. And then there is a recent election part where you have simple blocks of every elections. And then if you scroll down, you will get to the state assembly section where you can click on any of this state name and then it will be redirect to the state assembly page and then you can select your elections. I haven't attached that screenshot here, but if we have time after this presentation, I will surely would love to give you live demo of myneta.inforce if that is possible. So this is my state assembly section looks like. Then this is once you click on that election button, that election block, and then you are redirected to that election page. This is Uttar Pradesh 2022 elections page. So this is how it looks like on above, you get all the election summaries with all the highlights of candidate as well as winners. And just give you a idea how that state is performing, like how many candidates we have analyzed in that particular election and out of them, how many candidates are with declared criminal cases? These are declared criminal cases. I want to highlight this point that these criminal cases are mentioned by themselves only, that they have mentioned that in their sales front, effort effort that this is what we have. So we don't do the investigation as just will serve pointed out, we don't cook up the stories that these candidates have so many cases. It is the details that we are getting from their effort effort, which they submit in front of ECM. So this is it. And if you scroll on the same page, you will get list of constancy, which is divided, this requires divided. This is how it looks. And you can also click on any of this district and it will give you a list of candidate who are contesting in that district's constancies. And on that, like you will get this sort of a table where it is like you get an idea, like how many people are contesting, from which party they are contesting, are they having any criminal cases? What's their education background, the age, total assets? And there also we have an interesting features called a comparison chart. If you click on that, it will give you a table like this, which will give you a more sort of an insight about their assets, like individual category of assets, like movable assets and movable assets and total assets, whether they have submitted their pan, pan number is given or not. Then if you wish to like look at the information of a person, a single candidate, you can click on their name and then you will get something like this. I'm just showing the personal information or basic information section here. But if you go to a website, you get a lot of information there, like it is quite detailed. You can even get the detail, my new details of movable or movable assets of their spouses. Their source of income, have they submitted their ITR for last five years or if they have criminal cases, what is the status of their criminal cases or their IPCs, which they have, it's quite detailed. So that is how, this is how our profile candidate, profile section look. And then we have a separate section, like Jaspira Sir has covered election watch part of our organization. We do have a political party watch section also where we analyze reports related to political parties. Their income tax expenditures, their income expenditure report, their donation receipts, all sorts of details, that also we do and we analyze. We have that data also on myneta.info. It is a recent addition to myneta.info. So if you visit on political parties tab on myneta.info, you will redirect it to this page. Here, this page is divided into basically four sections. First one is the statistical report that will redirect you to the ADR India page where we have displayed all the report related to political parties. And then we have three section, first one is for national parties, then we have a regional party, then we have unrecognized parties. So if you look at this picture, there is national party, the first one is AIPC. So if you click on this AIPC tab, you will get something like this. This is financial summary of AIPC or Indian Remote Congress. And here you can get the financial summary of their income expenditure statement which they have submitted to ECF over the years. And this is the basic table which will just give you a total assets, total liability, total information. And if you scroll down in the same page, you will get something called summary of donation received in various years by this party. So you can get a glance through this and get an idea. And like in 2019-20, around eight crore of donation is received by AIPC and number of donors was 63 and every donation was around 12 lakh, all sort of this information is there. Then if you click on a particular income, like I just told you, if you click on this income expenditure statement section and you just click on the year, I just selected 2019-20, then you will get something like this. And it will have all details like, I'm not showing the personal like balance sheet here because and then it will like increase the length of a PPT. I am just cutting short here. So there you will get a balance sheet that is submitted by a party itself to ECI and there's all details assets and liabilities. And similarly, we have donation details also. We have list of donors, we have their name, addresses, whether how much money they have given, all sort of information and that is sensitive information. That's why I'm not showing it here. If you want to see that, you can surely visit my neta.info. There you will get. So this is a website where data is displayed. So on similar lines, we have an Android-based application also with the same name Myoneta. You can download that from Google Play Store and this is pretty similar to the web application website. But the only difference is in Android app, you will get like just brief about a particular candidate, their total assets, their criminal, whether they have criminal records or not, that you will get, but all that nitty-gritty, that details about their IPCs, their individual entries in their affidavit, that you won't be getting in Android app, but you can surely share their profile and with your friends over social media via this app and also in the app you get and like, there is a field called URL. If you click on that, you will redirect it to a website and where you can see all the details about any candidate. So this is how our new Myoneta app looks like. You can download it by scanning this code and now there's a short video. This is the impact that we are having right now. This is the digital presence or current digital analytics from like past financial year. This is from April 21 to February 22 or you can say March 22. So we have 67K followers on Facebook page and 75K followers on Myoneta page. We have 3000 plus YouTube subscriber and we do have like two Google groups also on which we regularly share a press releases or reports that we release. We primarily have two groups. One is for general public and one is for journalists where they write to us and they ask for specific report or the analysis. We do that for them. And then this is what our Google analytics, Myoneta Google analytics for last years. We have one crore users last year and most of them were new users and we got three more than three crore page views. And every session was like around two minutes and similarly we have Google analytics for ADR. ADR is, see for ADR we have a different target audience. So that's why the user count is slightly different from Myoneta. So user base of ADR, India is primarily a cat vision and journalists or media houses or that sort of genre and Myoneta is visited by most of everybody like even college student visit that and working profession or even normal person also visit Myoneta. So this is how much data that we have. So far election was released around 1,000 report, 9,057 reports and we have analyzed 192,909 candidates and we have covered 108 elections and four Lok Sabha elections and all Rajya Sabha elections since 2008. And similarly for political party watch we have released 168 report and we total assembly election covered was 106. And this is what Lok Sabha 2019, that's how much data we get, how much candidate we analyze. This is just give you an idea but how vast our database is. And this is about the recent election that we had in 2020. We have analyzed five states, Uttar Pradesh, Goa, Manipur, Punjab and Uttarakhand. So in Uttarakhand and Punjab and Uttar Pradesh we got short of some candidates, like we couldn't analyze 100% candidate but in Goa and Manipur we analyzed 100% candidates. And for this state assembly we got till now, like till 23rd yesterday we got around 887 media coverages, all major newspapers and digital media. This is all the digital media coverage that we could get in like a one month of span. And like from February, like as election was declared on January mid like this. And from so this media coverage is from February to March. And these are some of the examples of major coverage that we get. And that's it. Thank you for my side, but I just want to add one thing. Yeah, so yeah. So that is what my presentation is but I just want to add one thing. I just want to urge people to visit our data. See we have all sort of data, we are putting it out but it is of no use and then unless general public do visit that and consider that data before voting. So I just want has the people and all your community to spread the word about Myaneta and India so that we can be like so that more people can join our community and make use of this data. That's it. Thank you. Yeah, thank you Divya. Chantil over to you. I just had a few questions. So recently we had a session about electoral bonds where Mr. Jagdeep Chokar came and talked about them. So how do you think the introduction of electoral bonds would affect your analysis of donations? Yeah, so that is something. Professor Chokar of course is the expert in India about electoral bonds. So I don't know, he would have given most of the stuff but still electoral bond is something that makes the entire financial flow basically, the flow of money in a political party opaque. So you really don't, and does so in the name of transparency, government brought it when they brought it, they said it will make it more transparent but all it did was just ensure that people buy the electoral bond using a check but then they will not reveal who bought it, who paid for it, whom, which party it was given and so on. So that makes our job more difficult and whatever reports we come up with, the section in which we have to say that this much money is coming from unknown sources, that is becoming bigger and that is a worrisome thing because in a country where in a democracy where already we feel that democracy is not strong enough where political party high commands decide whom to give a ticket without discussing it with anyone else. Already democracy is weak and we don't want political parties to become so autocratic that they don't even tell who's paying them donations and where they are spending it and so on. So electoral bonds, we very strongly feel is a retrograde step. Yes. The whole project is to let people know about the criminal record of people but do we find that is just the sheer number of criminals in our electoral system? Is that specific to India or do you know if this is common in other parts of the world as well? Meaning so many people with criminal cases getting tickets, getting elected. Well, I think if this is, we have to talk about democracies. So in mature democracies like US or European democracies even somebody caught lying, small lies people have to resign from their ministerships and so on. In our country, people with some very serious criminal cases are allowed to contest elections that are given tickets by political parties. So I don't think the situations are comparable. The one thing that you asked is does it happen only in India? So I think we are among democracies, we are relatively not doing a good job of putting up good candidates because our system is not transparent enough. But having said that, other countries do not have such a system of affidavits also wherein candidates have to make all sorts of declarations. They may have a different system but this particular system is unique to India and this is an attempt to fight back by citizens and I would say other pillars of democracy because judiciary allowed it. So there are different agencies of the state I would say, which are still fighting back trying to preserve the constitution but the political class is probably they are not cooperating. So we are a unique country in that sense. I think we heard from our last session about criminality and elections that many Indian voters feels that people with like the dawns and all are more approachable than political parties because they can get their work done. The people who have done through like fact channel needs which some politicians will not be willing to do like get loans forgiven or get their children admission into colleges, things like that. So they want people with political, with cases. Yeah, so I don't know how many programmers are following this discussion because you're a technical channel, maybe some are. So I just want to give a small example. So when we do coding, we call something as patterns. So patterns happen in so many parts of life but then there is something we define as anti-patterns which is opposite of what should normally happen but doesn't happen. I think that this is an example of what should not happen. Dawns should not be elected. Dawns should not be liked by people but because of our systems, they make our people so helpless. Somebody who wants to make a small iCard as our card, some Russian card, poor people who are illiterate, who don't have all the means. So they don't understand the system. They have to file an application, read English, then write, they don't know how to write, they don't know even know how to sign and there are so many details. So we rely as a country on agents and those who cannot afford agents, they rely on people who are Dawns basically, who can get their job done and then in return expect a vote. So we are basically, you can say selling our vote for convenience but that is not the fault of that ordinary illiterate guy. That is the fault of the system, so to say and more of the educated people like us who should be doing more about it and probably aren't. And I think that happens, yes, but I think we need more programs like this to make sure this comes more into public domain, this will discuss more, this becomes part of the narrative to improve democracy becomes everyone's business and not just few small NGOs sitting somewhere and just doing tic-tic-tic and trying to do their bit and hoping that something good will happen. So I think you're right, but we have to keep going, yeah. So there's a question from YouTube, Srikanth is asking, are there any other data points that y'all at the Mydnata info would like to see on the affidavit or do y'all think it's sufficient? What's being asked currently? See, the affidavit has been evolving over the years from election to election, things have been added. Initially, there were, for example, no columns about income and there were only columns about assets, but then we realized that the assets alone is not enough. We should know the source of income and how much income they're getting to understand, are the assets they are having justified and so on. So we can of course, keep on adding more and more fields, but I think at the moment the attention needs to be paid to other aspects. This aspect has been probably analyzed enough. There are other aspects that weaken our democracy that need to be now worked upon. And of course, if election commission or the law ministry decides to add more parameters, we'll welcome that, but we are not pushing for it. We are okay with what we have as of now. There's a lot already, there's a lot already and if more come, it is welcome. This question is a bit tricky. It says, who has criminal records and why don't we stop them? Maybe they're asking, why isn't there a law prohibiting people with records from contesting? I'm a bit confused. Yeah, yeah, no, no. We keep getting this question, so I think I get it. See, this is about why people with criminal cases are even allowed to contest. So the answer is that in a country where sometimes, political parties and contestants allege that our opponents are framing us. They are just filing criminal cases when we have done nothing. We are very honest people and we are very shreeflogh hain. And then, of course, our answer is that the onus is on political parties to not do it because even this is being done by the political people. They were even against transparency. When we filed the case, as I told you earlier, they don't even want to let people know that they have criminal cases. So of course, the system can go only so far because even the judiciary says that we have to balance. We cannot force someone not to contest an election when the charges are not proven. Of course, he has 20 criminal cases, including murder and rape and attempt to murder and kidnapping and so on, but this guy, nothing is proven. Our idea was that once these political guys start having these problems, they may want to improve the system of criminal justice system also because they are the ones sitting on resources and they are not allowing courts to function the way they should and not allocating enough resources and so on. But that was our hope, but that doesn't seem to be happening. And we are still not sure how to fix the problem of criminals entering politics on the question of can we ban them? We have, so the ones who have proven cases, ones who are convicted are already banned. If somebody gets elected and then a case is proven, then he gets convicted, they have to resign and that seat again goes for election and so on, but that is a battle, that's a continuous battle that has to be fought. Our position of course, ADR of course says that once a charge sheet is filed against someone, that means the judicial mind has been applied and that guy should not be allowed to contest elections, but you see the political parties, they don't agree. So you mentioned that of course, political parties were against ADR when you all tried to get the affidavit itself passed, but have you all faced any specific, how you say? Opposition to the mynata.info or the app saying, no, please take down my information or that they can't do. They have not been able to do that is the good news. Do they try? Yes, we keep getting emails and calls and anonymous calls sometimes saying that, we don't want this to be there and some of them very genuinely feel offended that some case has already decided in my favor and why it's still showing on mynata, but our answer is that this information is as per the affidavit that you filed. We are not updating it on day to day basis. Whatever you said in the year, at the time of fighting the election, at the time of contesting the election, we are clearly mentioning it that that is the case you have and if in the next election, that case is not there, we'll of course not show it and of course you'll not put it in your affidavit then. So that is how it goes into the repository of what you say in your affidavit. It's not basically a day by day update of what is happening in your cases. So, but yeah, it's a thing where we keep getting questions and we keep getting queries and questions and all sorts of difficult attitudes from people who are affected negatively by it. So yeah, it keeps coming. You mentioned this already, but I just wanted to get a clarification. What did you say ADR says about whether you think it's important to have the information before conviction also, right? Just the charge. Yeah, yeah, so yes, yes, yes. So if, see the affidavit says it has two sections. One is pending criminal cases. The second is convictions. So pending criminal charges is basically about the cases that are currently on. So if somebody says that this guy has done forgery or are cheating, that case is in the court and although the case has not been decided, the person has not been convicted or he has not even not been decided either ways. But that case has to be, that case there has to be given in the affidavit. So if it is given as a case currently being contested, that information comes in the affidavit and then it goes on mine also. So of course, we clearly mentioned that this case is on, it's not decided. Anything from your side, Divya, about the running of the app? Has it ever crashed, for example, because you've had too many users at the same time? Yeah, so time to time, we tend to get DOS attack on a myoneta.info. Usually it happens around elections, like in 2019 also during general election. There was a time when they usually happens at odd time. I clearly remember it was a night that we got DOS attack and because of that our system crashes and myoneta was not up for like around 10 to 12 hours. Then we have to like restore myoneta from our end and then put it back on online. Sorry, can you explain what a DOS attack is? So the DOS attack is that when some odd servers tries to get our website and like we get number of requests that are usually unusual, like we get millions of requests at the same time and our server capacity is not that much to hold that much traffic at that point of time. So they are not like genuine people browsing our website. They are like bought sitting in some different country or different continent and they are just trying to crash our website so that normally person can't access it. Yeah, so DOS is basically DOS denial of service attack. Denial of service. You know, servers are overwhelmed by artificially inflating the traffic. So of course, you know, people who are affected, you know, they don't want voters to see all the information just a day before voting. So they keep trying all the tricks. So we have to continuously fight back. All right, thank you so much for the view. This has been very enlightening. I'm going to go download and look at my Fathoda constituency in Goa right now. And thank you so much, yeah. Yeah, thank you so much and thanks to your viewers also. Yeah, yeah, yeah, something. You could share the presentation with us a bit like that and we'll also make a summary and send it to you. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Sure, Divya will do that. So it was great talking and I hope your viewers liked the discussion. And thank you so much for having us.