 Good morning everybody. Good morning. I just wanted to start off by saying you guys did a fabulous job presenting to the TSE. They were very impressed and they're looking so forward to what we have come up with some of the comments for just about the presentation that it was just so well performed and and that everybody stepping up like they did. The team was awesome. And then they just, I think that everybody in the community has been looking for what we're about to deliver for a really long time. And everybody's really hopeful that this will kind of, you know, I feel I always have that education and documentation are like the community that holds or the thread that holds the community together because if people don't know what we're doing and if you can't read about it, then nobody's going to understand what we're doing. So I think that that this is something that's going to really help grow the community so hats off to you guys. Okay, sip of coffee. Here we go. Let me share my screen. I'm not really going to be doing anything today until I'm called upon other than run the wiki page. I'm going to turn the meeting over to her. She set the agenda and we'll talk through it and I will interject when needed but saw you. Thank you so much for be so hello everyone. Good morning, good evening depending on whichever region you are from so hello everyone and starting with the meeting. I think everyone can go with go through the antitrust policy and the code of conduct if anyone is not familiar with it, then they can go through it. Other than that, let's start with the introductions. So, starting with Bobby. You can introduce yourself. Everybody pretty much on the call already knows each other just say, you know, I'm here today to work on. We have those those always call them buckets of chores to do. And so now we have to kind of set up not timelines but almost like what what we want to take off in the next few weeks. So I'm here to help decide what each one of those is and step up where needed. So, can we just see where we get. So, thanks. Thanks a lot Bobby. So, yeah, next we have Keanu Luca Keanu Luca you can just introduce yourself and say hello to everyone. Hello to everyone. I'm Gianluca, I'm a software engineer from Italy. I'm lucky. I'm very happy about the last meeting with the OC, and I'd like to contribute to this, this project. And so I'd like to become the chair of the github template sub topic. And I would like to contribute to the project by writing starting writing the guideline to that topic and to have a feedback about about that. Thank you. Gianluca. Next we have kajal kajal are you there in the car. Hello, everyone. Hello, I'm, I'm kajal and I'm the committee chair of templates. So, like, I had a conversation with the unknown credits maintainer I guess he's current. And so I talked to him like what he needs as like what assistant assistant he needs. So he told like they want a Mac dog documentation website like areas have. So like they have only initial idea they are only thinking about it. And also they don't know what content they want to put there. So like he asked me to like make a structure of folders like what was folders we are going to add in the Mac dog website. And then we proceed further. Also like a talking about the content he was saying he said like they have regular workshops at and on crops. So like I didn't understand like what workshops was talking about. He shared some dog links to like see and then I like researched and then like I didn't understand like what this is about and how this is a link to the documentation thing. I have asked asked to him about this. So for now he said that we have to like they have to create a Mac dog documentation and also like they want one thing. They want editorial reviewer correction like in their like GitHub repository. So two things they want from us and about the content they said like I should look the workshop content from there they will get the what content they have to write in Mac dog documentation. So like it's on the beginner level and they are just collecting what they have to write and all. So this is about it and also I have talked to the developer maintainers and you also shared some like what I have to do and all but I'm still not clear like what I have to contribute to. So I will talk to him and like I'll share this in the next meeting. So that's what I have been in the past week. Thank you. Okay, thank you so much for keeping us sharing us that information. Next we have account show account show you can go ahead and introduce yourself and you know like share us anything that you have been doing or any doubts that you have. Really, so thank you. Firstly, myself a cancer and I am a fix many for onboarding this year and I'm also contributing as a contributing in the documentation as the on boarding chair. I have been working since last week I had a call with john. We have meetings on Wednesdays with john so we are working on the redevelopment of the site and creating a navigation based persona. I am working with like a few more people who are contributing to onboarding they are not in the call right now but they like some of them one or two of them are active and they're helping me out. And in that since I require a lot of stuff. So I had asked Ben about it but whatever I can make I have made some designs and some, you know, some, there are a few architecture layouts and all so I made that and Ben had reviewed it and they told me to make some changes. So I'll be just you know, right now with the Ben's feedback I'll be improving it more and other than that, I have been, you know, doing the work. I had asked him to, you know, add me to the contributors list list in the GitHub. So I'm there and I require some of the things I want to ask to Bobby since I had contacted Arunima for that but since you know she's also new to hyper ledger she won't be doing much about that. So I wanted to ask you Bobby, like, right. John told me that we need you know, stuff for people like the three personas we have divided it in with business personas or contributors or maintainers. We need some content about them documentation type of thing for preparing a start here guide. Like, I am making the persona design on the main homepage. The user comes and you know, clicks on that persona design like, like wherever, like if he's a developer or a maintainer for example. So once he clicks on that, he should let that he should be directly related to the page. So I am working on that, but the page that we'll be creating. So we need a start here guide or you know a proper documentation how to get started and everything. So we need some. We need to know the needs like whatever is needed. So I want to want to ask Bobby like how you know how can I prepare the documentation for that. So that's the need of onboarding right now as well. And yeah, I some of the people are joining right now from the onboarding contributors. I guess, but yeah, one is already there, but we just did. And I guess other hasn't haven't joined yet. So yeah, that's all about onboarding and Bobby Ken if you hear the doubt I asked. So, so I'm just going to reframe your question to make sure that I have it correctly. So you've been dealing with that about the personas and with john and you're getting the user guides and what exactly do you need from me into far as like when a user a brand new user comes in are their user guides. Yeah, it basically needs the user guides a basic start, not basic but a start here guide, it would come under user guides only for the personas that we are creating three personas right now. John said that to you know divide them into three personas, because last year there were five to six so these are the personas are developer maintainers is comes under one person on us then it's totally agree with that three is better and those are the three so good job on that because the score was a little flaky and my six were out of control so. Exactly so so these three personas so once you know the user clicks on it he should be directed to the main, you know, I start here guide should be there so basically it would be kind of come under user guide only so we need you know some documentation help in that. Okay, so two things before we move on with the introductions is yes, I have the old user guides and one of the things if we had time today I had taken a class last week in the AI stuff. I want to show or at least try to show a flow for you guys for user guides that might help you. So I will do that. After the introductions are over but yes I do have some old in the learning old learning materials working group. I have different guides and stuff I'm not sure if they're relevant or updated but that's a great place for us to start when we get to that section in the call today I will show you all that stuff. So yeah I do have your back. Thank you Bobby like yeah in this meet if you can share that that would be of great help and you know there are other people working on user guide already I guess on onboarding and I don't know my is already there so I can work with it you know, collaborating and I can work on the user. Let me know whenever you need any help with the task. Okay, so coming next we have three put three put you can you know introduce yourself and let us know if you need any help in any of the ideas that you're working with. Hi everyone, I'm the chair of the dogs and I'm currently working on the standard user guide guide and will be completing it this week and so so there will be many traditions I know but the first draft will be completed this week and in the next meeting I will be able to share with all of you so that you can also make suggestions and if there is something missing. Yeah, that's what I'm going to do and soon I will contact upon having a meeting with so long community I hadn't had time this week I was sick so I was not able to do much but yeah this week I will cover it. That's great to put and take care I hope you recover soon. Next we have Victoria Victoria you can go ahead and you know introduce yourself and let us know if you need any help in any of the ideas that you're working with. Hi everyone. Okay, I'm Victoria lead of the best practices subcommittee. So, last week I began doing some research on you know I was trying to understand what exactly is expected of this subcommittee so on my wiki I made some updates. Thank you. Okay, so. So, the thing is, I want to know if I'll like, I'll be able to work with a real amount and then also work with some community members like to get a brief overview or something just basically. From the action. This is what I think I will do for instance be corrected. Yeah, so if you see the second one collaborates with key stakeholders, including developers maintenance is that so I don't know if this actually possible or if you have to work solo or something like that so yeah. I mean, that's a great question and an interesting situation in this community. The way that I found that it works is that all of these developers and maintainers are available during the times that their calls are. They really like to they have other jobs and other things going on so it's hard for them to meet other than that so if like you need to get information or give information. I would go to their calls, but that's a lot of work in that and we don't anticipate you having to do all of that so there's probably an easier way which will figure out as we go. Okay. We can communicate with them over discord like I don't know if that's easy or not. I didn't get that was that for me. Okay. So Bobby, I think we are done with the introductions and getting the updates and so coming to the next I think you know, as you mentioned that creating a timeline for each of the subcommittees. So can you please like tell me like what exactly I'm supposed to do there so that maybe I can start working on that and also throw some light on the management tools for the management tools that came in my mind was notion. I don't know like if that will work or maybe you can, you know, tell me about tell us about any other management tools that will walk us that with that we can you know manage all the six subcommittees. Okay, so first and foremost, thank you for all the hard work. Again, this is great having your direction. I think just give me one moment I have to open the door. If I didn't do that we'd have lots of barking. So, what I see moving forward and how this is moving forward is for management. I have thought of possibly using Trello and but that's just too hard when we have this wiki page that we can use as a great management tool and we've already used it by having our own workspace. So again, I, we have these six 123456 different areas where I think right now we should go into each one and determine what needs to be done or where to start and we're not. I think this is we're not asking you for hours and hours and hours and hours of work. When you signed up for this we're just, you know, asking for your ideas that the work gets done, eventually. So if we start with using these as like so for instance whatever's going on with best practices. The notes would be for that. And the timeline so I had put down I had just modified this about a half hour ago, putting down some government documents that help guide the community with best practices and we'll talk about that in a minute but in that sense so anyone working on best practices or anyone who is working in the community and here's a link or gets a page from the community that has to do with best practices, you should just come right to this wiki page, edit it and drop it in for discussion. Again, we don't want you to have to analyze it or it's just for discussion so when we get to best practices in a little bit, we'll click on these links and see how they can, how I thought that they could help this particular committee. Again, same thing with GitHub GitHub has two committees underneath this, I think, and it has to do with what we talked about it the TOC is that the maintainers when they come in, they need and again this deals with best practices as well. So I actually, I could be so I'm going to just use, use a story for an example. So, when I was working in 2019 on the giving chain, we wanted to make it a GitHub repository, a lab so that other folks could come in and help us, especially firefly people, help us build what we had in mind for this decentralized charity chain so to donate, it would be tracked in the supply chain to the recipient. Therefore it's like a giving chain. So we wanted to set up a lab. So we had a look really it took us a pretty long time to figure out where that in the TOC recommendations. So that was for maintainers creating a lab and yet there was an awesome GitHub repository that all I needed to do was copy and put my information in. And again, there is no user guide for that at this particular moment which is something that we're going to talk about in a minute. So this is one of the things and then when it's a lab we work on it everybody does what's supposed to be done, you know, oh, and we have, again, we looked at our best practices or we looked at our, yeah, our best practices. And we've decided that we're ready to go to the TOC and make this project incubation. So we go to best practices we see all the documentation needs. We have a chain around looking at a lot of other things as well security needs all these other best practices needs but our pieces only documentation so what documentation do I need to move my project from a lab to incubated project. And what is it need to look like because right now we just said it basically says user documentation. It has really no guidelines for what to do with user documentation. So that would be something that would be helpful, as well as once that project is an incubation, and it's been working in incubation for a really long time, it's got a vibrant community, lots of other people have come on stepped up as maintainers. It's got all the requirements for security blah blah blah all the things it needs to move into a graduated project, and to move into a graduated project there's a serious documentation needs that are also reflected in the best practices task force documentation that they've made. So, again, we would need to be able to supply some user guides to help the maintainers figure out what they need from documentations. Moving forward. So, for GitHub, that's just the maintainers user guides and I'm going to call that and that's kind of where I think Jen Luca is working as to figure out what how to help get a project from lab incubation graduated and maintain I mean you have to if there's versions you know they have to be documented correctly. So that's basically the one GitHub which we have to work on those user guides and templates. The second part of the GitHub is what the old task force was working on, which is we analyzed what everybody in the in the community was using whether it's. The third part is taking those maintainers GitHub repositories and rendering them using some software program, whether it's read the docs makes the doc Sphinx there's a lot of options in the communities using probably all of them. Which one do we suggest as hyper ledger which David Boswell has helped us out with that we have some paid tooling policies, but which ones do we suggest you use and how to use them to get your GitHub repositories that are very pass their best best practices get those repositories into user docs for people like me, an entrepreneur who doesn't know anything about whether my product my my business case would need this solution. So, that's like kind of what those user docs are for and again any maintainer contributor who wants to know about the product could be those user docs and get where they need to be as well. So those are the two GitHub. The templates themselves. Again we talked about those those are you know like I need to make a user user guide, what are we using make the docs are using read the docs, I need to do a white paper I need to do use case I need to make a presentation. I need to start a meet up I need the slide for the meet up promotion screens, all of those templates need to be housed in a library somewhere, easy for the community to get at and again, going back to the onboarding group. It has to be done per level, you know you can't have business entrepreneur reading something that a maintainer, you know, needs so there's different levels to those 10 templates as well so they have to be, you know geared towards who would be using them. The onboarding again is just helping out with the user guides and the flow for people to be two clicks away from information at all times on and in the user guides what I want to talk about in a minute. Presentations. That's just we're restoring what we're doing so I should put a copy of right in there. I will make sure at the end of the week that the mentorship presentation recording is in there and the task force presentation. You can always use them edit them and make them your YouTube library because you guys did present it if you did present. You can have that as part of your living resume, whether you store it in a Google Drive a Google Doc but everything you do that is video or graphic or whatever you should store as as a personal portfolio and and grow it daily. I wish that I did that when I had started out so many years ago because it would be very robust I just started doing it eight years ago when I started teaching a class on finding jobs. So again, you will forget what you do so make sure if you did this presentation or if you spoke at them, take the recording and put it in your personal folder. So presentations we want to again do meetups with workshops once we develop these guidelines towards the end of this summer project in the fall we want to start presenting these things to the community so they know where to find these templates. So again that's a team project the presentations but that's where all the information for the presentations as a management tool should be stored. And then again anyone working on the mentorship projects any information on the mentorship project so for instance if you're working with the soul and community and the mentors like I need this this this you might want to just take a note and put it on that page so we know when we're doing a presentation to make a side note to address those needs for the mentors. So basically that's the management. I don't know if everybody agrees with doing it that way anybody have any comments about keeping our work moving forward in these buckets here. Lots comments. I think no worried was very clear for me. And I guess it was clear for others as well. Okay good so now what I want to talk about again I don't. If we go to each one of these will see for instance let's do best practices first. Okay so I mentioned when I was talking about best practices again I'm just brainstorming. Best practices for maintainers contributors. And I don't believe the third bucket what do you think about having enterprise people aren't really going to be concerned about best practices they're just getting information what do you think they need to be in here. The enterprises I like John didn't tell me exactly but he just told me that we can have the organization heads of organization or different enterprises, they come to hyper ledger. So maybe it's for that but I have to you know, ask more about it from John, I'll let you know. Okay so I'm going to leave them out for best practices because they don't need to know really internal community best practices like maintainers or contributors would. So these best practice what we come up with our guidelines for the maintainers is going to be a lot with github guidelines for both for setting up and using user got our rendering. user guys contributors contributors have to more deal with that section that. Oh I forget the gentleman's name he's a rune is the technical steering committee point but I forget the gentleman he's working with name, but for the contributors it's the start here, which is a place they go to learn about. picking up a code that they need fixing or whatever. So these two things need to understand what the best practices are. So again we have all summer to figure this out. I'm waiting for you know the chair to step up and or anyone in the group to step up and come up with ideas for this over the next couple of weeks. This is one project. So I copied these links but I thought that they would be very helpful. So, this is the project incubation exit criteria so that I to see we decided that this is what the requirements are for leaving. And where is documentation. This is a little bit of the best practices. Best practices. I didn't say anything about documentation, what the documentation needs are, but also we need, again, to document this. So if I am coming in to exit incubation, how am I going, you know, do I want to. Okay, let me start all over again my brain is moving too fast. So, is this GitHub repository, the best way to help the maintainers move their projects out of incubation. That's a question we have to answer. So that I thought would be helpful for our research. This is also something that's always discussed in the TOC meetings always changing this is a living diagram. These are the six possible states of a project in hyper ledger, and what you need to in each proposal. So again the question I asked before is this GitHub repository the best way to teach people for show people how to do what they need to do. So where is there maybe an easier way to create something for them. That's, you know, to help them out. And then the last thing was this issue 44. This is something else never mind. If you want, if everyone in the group who's working on best practices, wants to take a chance at the timeline. This is how I do timelines. So I would go to back rows, and I click under visual and images, the roadmap planner. And this is wonderful to use so for lane one, you would edit it and say. So for the maintainers you want to set up a lab we're going to set up a tutorial. It's going to take us. We're going to call step one brainstorming so we have to brainstorm on what that looks like. That's going to be step one and I'm just. Oh, sorry. And again you can edit these dates we don't need this to 2024 we're just going to go to the end of the summer. And you can move these as you see fit. And so if the chairs want to take a whack at this and then you just hit insert, and it will show up here. So if anybody wants to take a whack at that as a chair of a group after we discuss what's going on with them today. Talk to a runima and she can you know help you out with, you know what might be on each one of these. But that was just an idea and again. We're going to use Google drives and Google Docs all you have to do is put a link to the page here in this wiki page so this wiki page we're not like I'm not saying you have to work here you can work anywhere you want just as long as you put a link to it on this. This page so that we can all keep track of our work together. So forget have again this has to be broken out into two different ones. I'm going to talk about the timeline so Dan Luca, whoever's working as a chair on these if you want to try to take a whack at that timeline. Again runima would be there same thing for templates and on boarding. Why I want to talk about user guides I just before I'm going to see if runima has anything she needs to discuss, but we're going to be doing a lot of user guides and I again was in a class. So actually I'm going to turn it back over to runima to see if she has anything to talk to the teams about other than you know helping them out with their timelines for the week. And then I want to show you something that I learned in that class. So runima do you have any comments. For now no I don't have any comments but yeah if any of you will need help in you know framing the timelines just you know let me know through email or LinkedIn and I will be more than happy to help you out and if required maybe we can plan a one on one meet and help you out with it. So yeah feel free to shoot an email or you know text me on LinkedIn if you need any help. That's that's from my side Bobby you can now just share with us what you have been learning about. Sorry, sorry about that when I went into the dashboard it made it a ding and my dogs thought my doorbell rang so they went crazy so I had to calm them down. So I took this class and I've checked up and share the information in it. Again, there's this women's group in Miami or just a group of empowered women who started this company called Mia. And I suggest everyone join it it's great they do great classes, but they had this class this week and one of the workflows that they talked about had really interested me so let me see if I can do this so let's see. So basically there's a lot of other programs and information in this that wasn't necessary but one of the flows and I'm going to pull this over now so that I can work in the wiki page. So the first flow is, and let's I don't know if it works. Again I just had time to sit in the class, but the first flow would be. I'm going to type and turn my mute off because of the dogs from. Sorry about that. So, um, let me see if I can do this. Hello right so I'm just going to put an example. Example. Okay so this is basically, again the more information you give the better you're going to get results from these chatbots and from these. So if I take this, again, have patience with me, and I'm going to go to fix one thing. So this is a chatbot, and I'm going to put in my computers being such a brat. Okay and I'm going to take that. And we'll go back to our, and this is the result of that. So now I'm going to take that and let me go back to. So the first step was to put it into the next day was image creation, and I am not a graphics designer so stable diffusion is a free program that generates graphics it was beyond my capability. I could not possibly get anything that I would use in a course or a textbook or a user guide it was more funky and I maybe my prompts were wrong. Again, and with that chatbot there's, I'm going to be teaching a class on that coming up in a month. There's way more ways to use that like you could now take that outline and say what am I missing and it would redo it for you. Compare it to other ones what do I you know like so there's ways that you can really fine tune that but I'm just more showing you more the flow. The images that will be using for user guides will be coming from Ben and David Boswell as the library of images or graphics that are with the new brand. So we won't have to worry about like the day to challenge. Oh and by the way, what I mentioned with the chatbot I think that that is interesting. As far as the questions for the chatbot and how to create an effective prompt. I'll put this on there as well. So these will help you create this material. So, so to get her far far. Okay. So if you use these in the in the thing that I pasted in the chatbot. It will help with your results. But again I'm just showing you the flow so then if we go back to where's Mia and creating videos. Is this the one. Yes. So this I find amazing. I have purchased a subscription to it because I'm going to use it all the time in what I do. Because of how well it is. So let me just log in. And again for us. We are not here to create massive spend massive amounts of time creating massive user guides. We are here to get them to the community so it is okay to use all these tools for that. Everybody's using them so don't be afraid to use them. So we want script to video. I didn't have the right thing in my, where do we go. Okay hold on a second. I'm just taking me so long. I keep hitting the wrong buttons. Again, I apologize for my computer I'm getting there. There it is. So I'm going to copy the results from our outline in the chatbot. And then I'm going to go to that dictionary. Don't know where it is. I'm going to stop sharing my screen for a second I apologize for this. I can't even stop sharing my screen my computer is so backwards. Okay just give me one second. Okay, sorry. Okay so I'm just going to paste in. Yeah, paste in the information that the chatbot gave us and hit proceed, and it's going to ask me for a template. Now what I'm envisioning is that the template plate group will be working with David. So we'll have a my template, which is the hyper ledger template so right now I mean none of these screen hyper ledger to me so I'm just going to pick this one. And then I just go one to one ratio because I haven't done the research on it so I don't know which one's best for my needs so that one looks good. And then it creates a storyboard for you, which is pretty incredible because it creates this great video and again I don't like the graphics that it shows. But if you have a template it would be your graphics so there wouldn't be any question about what would be showing up in there, and then there's another well that's building let me go back to me here. And then what you do is you take this video, and you go to this gamma app gamma will create a presentation for you with a voice. So you could either have the words there or you can have an AI voice and you get to pick if it's male female. There's like 100 different voices you can pick from, which will do the speaking for your presentation and again if we do that I mean this takes like no time. You can make the scenes. And if we want to do that for the user guards, if we all are using the same thing in the same templates, this could be amazing. Sorry this takes so long. See if we can get gamma started so we can put this into gamma. Yeah kajal isn't this cool. This is just incredible for educators. I mean you can really focus on your content, not the creation part. This is gamma. And you can import what we just made, or you can create it new you can upload old these are some of the ones that I've been working on. So it is. It's pretty incredible. So again I'm trying to find a theme for my company because I want to put these up out in my metaverse school so that on current. Let's see if Pictionary came up with our video yet. Not yet. So again that's the flow that I think I'm going to try to use when I use these tools would be to put my outline in the chat bot, take that outline and put it into pictoria AI, which hopefully has a templated hyper ledger outline and then create a video storyboard. Let's go to 29 let's go. And then here you go let's preview it. Again I don't like the graphics. That's my weakest point is, is graphics. They didn't understand labs. I love the pictures they're using. I'm sorry what. I'm just saying that I love the pictures that the tutorial is using. Yeah, I do, you know, need to walk through the entire making up, but you see how easy that can be. And then again let me see I don't know. I don't know if I know how to take this right away and put it into gamma but then gamma will take this presentation and add the voice over, get rid of the words, like so you can choose to get rid of these words and have the avatar talk again so I want everybody again we're running out of time here so let's. So if everybody wants to work on their timeline a little bit that would be great if you're a chair. And if not, if you want to try to just play around with the flow that we just did over so go to chat jet chat GPT put in an outline of one of the user guides one of the people you're working on for this group and see if you can do it all the way through pictoria and to gamma and see if you, you know, just play around with it and then if you if you want. Let us know on the page here, let's go back to you can go back to this page. Let's put the date that you come to the page and a link or just I played around with the workflow and I have a user guide to show you whatever. So just put the date, you know, edit this page, put the date and let us know for the next week, because I look at this page when we start the agenda. Look at this page, you know, and put down if you did anything so that we know to. I'm sorry what. That's your screen. Oh, hold on just a moment then hold on sorry sorry sorry. It's just a regular screen the. It's just the. There's a link in the chat to even though we should have this one. And I put that stuff here under user guides so if you do play around with it and want to present, make sure you put it on the documentation page. I'll go back the information will be on user guides about the workflow chat GBT Pictionary and then and then gamma. And if anybody wants to use the existing hyper ledger themes and try to create a template and pictoria that would be great. I don't know just play around with it and see what you come up with. Before I leave. For a break, I will make sure this user guide has what we just discussed. And I will save the one I was working on. So does anybody have any questions for me. Bobby can you share the link where we can get the existing templates or the old templates. Okay, so how I get to those is if you go up to the search bar in the and type learning materials development working group, or just the initials and go to. I like to go to meeting notes because then I know I'm in the old page. I'm not sure my screen again sorry hold on. I keep stop sharing. Okay, so I just typed in the search engine here learning materials development working group and I went to one of the meeting notes. And then if you are in the learning materials the archive learning materials development working group. And you'll see here under templates, you have all of those and then here for if anybody wants to take a whack at the graphics for the template for the pictoria here is a graphic standard set with Google drives, full of a ton but again this is all going to be outdated as soon as Ben. No I have to request access again, whatever, and you can request access it's just David Boswell he'll send it right over to you. All these branding guidelines projects presentation guidelines so these are a lot of, and again some of them we might not need this is like years of clogged information it needs to be streamlined. So like when you go to the templates and you want to do a use case, download template boom you're ready to go white paper boom project proposal boom you know like everything's right there. Yeah, I think they're redoing them all. Now that's a shame, I think I have them somewhere so if you need more graphics, you can just steal them from any presentation that's out there again. I would, I don't know. Now I wouldn't. I was going to say I would go to the presentation that Ben gave us because he gave us a slide with the new logo but that's neither here or there. So this is the, it's the learning materials development working group that has that best practices and template guide. And we were talking about the user guides, this is also right here so here are the old welcome guides. So if you click becoming a community member on the homepage of the learning materials working group, you will get to again this is where these videos that we just went through would be awesome. You can get a Linux login, edit a wiki page join the calls and how to get involved. This is getting involved with open source. So it and it says community roles, if you're involved in the hyperledger community we are urging you to put these on your business cards your LinkedIn page and your resumes. And this is if you want wording on how to do that here's wording for that so this needs to be looked at and redone to so again there's so many things and hopefully that's stuff that I showed you will help us get that done much quicker. That's it for me we're over a minute anybody have any comments. Yeah Bobby I just wanted to ask one more thing. So, like, you talk last and last week to talk about that document so is there any update or any information about the collaborative program. But I will reach out to him again when do you guys have your meeting. With john you're talking about. Yes, yes the onboarding. Yeah. Okay so john has scheduled the meet on Wednesday 12pm to 1pm, which is 930. I did the Indian state ISD and according to it's 12 mountain time I guess empty 12pm, 12pm mountain time. Okay, I'll try to make that I'm on the road Wednesday but I will try to sit in on that and see what's going on with onboarding if not I'll just listen to the recording. Okay so actually the it happens on Google meet but I shall send you a invite link after the meet this meet I'll send share to the link of that meet if you can join. It would be really great. Otherwise also like I'll record the meet for you. And then they're automatically recorded and the hyper ledger community will put it on your page. Oh, but like, right now because it happens, it does not happen to zoom it happens on me, the meat, like, will meet that John has. Oh, I see. Okay, thank you. I see. Okay, community zoom call I get it. I'll share the link with you and with the mail after the meeting. Okay. Thank you. Anybody else have any questions. Well then I'll talk to you next week, or email me if you have anything or reach out in LinkedIn. Thank you, Bobby. Thank you, Bobby. Thank you, Bobby. Bye. So, like, I have I guess on voting people are also here. Some of them just wanted to ask like what's going on but sorry, why is contributing then on voting. But I know he's helping me in the navigation part. The navigation persona thing. Other than that, others can just tell me like what are they planning to do. And also, like, Agnes, I just saw that you are also part of this user right thing in the documentation. So just a recommendation if you can work on that for on voting as well because then you will have to just a simple one task that you have to create that no user right so it would help in on voting as well. But that is the thing that you can take apart. Sorry come again. Am I audible now. Yes, yes. Okay, so I was just like watching out. So your name was there in the user guides or best practices in documentation. Is it there right it is there as a part of it. Okay, so I was just saying that you can just work on that for now if you know, I guess I guess you missed the last minute so that's what you can work on you can work on the user guides for the three person us that the team is focused on the developer maintainers business users and enterprise you can work on preparing a template and use a guide for that a start so that we can you know have a start here by for the people who are on voting. That was what I was saying. Okay, okay. You said something about navigation. Yeah, the navigation thing that we are working on so we're just contributing in that if like, do you have experience in sigma Agnes. No, no, no, I'm not talking to him. Okay, yeah, that's why I recommended that you can work on the user guides better like it would be better because you can work on research and creating the templates and everything. So we're contributing in that right now with me. And Kajal is also there I guess but she she hasn't I don't know if she's she has started contributing can you just tell me. Sorry, like I was busy last week. I had some tests. So, like, I went through the chat sand, you told to create some icons, three icons for the persona. Like, what is this about. Like on the navigation bar. I had sent architecture a rough design that I made on draw the tile is a I'll just share my screen better so that you couldn't be I can just show you what exactly is going on. Yeah, I'll just share it. Just first. So, yes, I can. So I had made this design on draw the tile. For elections where we was doing so this is a rough design of exactly how are we changing the site right so this is hyper edges present site. So this is the present site of hyper led ledger. Just as I can load in. Yeah, so this is the present site. So we have to you know, revamp the website so that it becomes more user friendly and you know we are creating basically our project is based on creating a more user friendly website for the new users for the people who will be meant on voting the site. So this is the present site and this is just a second. How is this. So this is what I created since the believer asked me like, what should he work on. So I guess believe you are working on it or you haven't started yet you have started working or still working on it. What's the status. Last day I didn't get time, but surely I'll start in two days. No, no problem like it would be really good if you you know you can like completed by day by day after tomorrow if possible. I'll like my colleague is reopening so I need to try that's why. Okay, cool. Okay, never mind never mind so it's okay just let me know by when can you do it or else you know I'll just take up if like I need an urgent work. I just see like this is what we will be transforming right now. This is my suggestions right now we'll be having reviews from the mentors as well. On Wednesday we have a meet I'll have I have a meet with John. So if possible I'll ask if I can you know invite you guys also there so but that doesn't matter. So this is the thing that they're planning for now and we have to make so this site right now hyper ledger site would be, you know, becoming like this. That's what we have to focus on right now that we have to create your navigation based personas that's what I was talking about. Did you understand now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm okay. Yeah, so this is a friend and part we are you know working on right now and doesn't matter if you are not much used to that and if you want to learn fit my that's a great thing but if you want to work on the research but that is cool as well. And you can create a template for that so that's what because we really need the start here guys as soon as we complete making the navigation bar and everything here will be requiring the start here guys for for the three personas that would be a posting so it would be great to be completed by you know this week or next week. And other than that. Yeah, so it was casual to be working on the front end part only right on the. I can help. I can help at most on creating templates also because in a documentation task force I am doing the template so I can help. Okay, okay. So do you want to. Yeah. Do we have what we want to go on the site in terms of content so when we have the navigation bar for example, or the personas do you have the specific things we are going to put on the website. Just as I can yeah so yeah I'll just show you an example of that what exactly we are having in, you know, this is the start here guide existing one. So this is not much user friendly and no one can really understand how to get started. Can if you just read you you tell me like is do you think like this is something that you know our users should will understand at first. A new user comes to the site so this is what the start here existing guide guide is, but we need to completely you know transform this and make it a proper like what you will be creating or other people who are working on user guide would be creating would be here instead of this so that the new contributors can you know understand the workflow easily that how the thing the Bobby explained it how to get started for the contributors and so just like this there would be three start here guides first for this and here in this section will be having resources. So what will come under resources would be the different sides of hyper ledger who are like, there is one more thing that we are working on, but it is known as high traffic pages pages. So, I have asked for the information because it's still under process because until unless we receive the information from hyper ledger we cannot cannot work on that. Here in the resources will be having a section of resources, and there would be the pages which are related to the contributor, the, you know, the thing the contributors required. So, according to the needs of the contributor or the maintainer will be having this thing resources section and the contributor user can directly go to that page like for example bevel or areas or these projects and all. So, we'll see that which are the most traveled pages so we'll be getting the data about that soon. So we'll be putting them here. So, for now, that is a later part but for now this part, this would be what that you will guys be creating a proper user guide would be there in place of this, you know, this basic webpage. Right. Agnes if you're getting what I'm saying. Yeah, so this is the start here that I think now other than those two things are there and casual soldiers wanted to ask so you want to work only on this thing or on the design as well. I want to work on both of these things. I have worked on sigma and voice for them some resource work so I'm okay with you. Okay, right. So, regarding that thing I'll just open the design as well. Just give me a second. I have a question like for the start website, how we are going to use the templates like you said we have to create template and also we'll be providing three options like three personas for different people like the developer one will click and navigate to this section like this one. Okay, I completely understand your question properly. Can you just, you know, repeat it. So I am saying that you said we have to create templates. So like we just saw the website we have like a simple website and it's for everyone be it contribute be it contribute developer or maintainer. So this do we have to like personalize this start here for three different personas. Yes. Okay, so regarding templates part template template and just saying you know in the aspect of a user guide only not exactly you know proper template comes under there are different types of templates that we talk about and in hyper ledger. You already know because we had the discussion in last week as well, Bobby cleared it out that one is for GitHub thing and one is for that. So the template I am talking about is the one that I just showed you the start here guide only. So you are great that we'll be customizing it according to the personas. So that is what we have to do three different start here guides for three different personas. So we will be merging it in a single website. No, no, no, I'll just explain that again what exactly we'll be doing. So when the user will click on the website, it will just redirect to what he has chosen. Yeah, so these are the three pages. Okay, you did other than that I'll just, you know, just explain it again. So I am a new user. I'll just so that everyone can understand it better. So I'm a user and this is my hyper ledger site. What I mean by hyper ledger site the one that I just showed you. So just imagine that this is that hyper ledger site. And this is a navigation bar and this is right now we only see this building better together thing and there is no this section, but we'll be creating this section for the front end part. And here like something it's not exactly how we'll be laying it off. It's just a rough design. So there will be this question or you know a line type of thing that will ask which role describes you as the best or you know what attracts you to hyper ledger and everything. There would be a simple line and this these three sections would be there very small ones not very big ones. So we are working on this and if anyone else is also interested like I just said so you can help me out on this. So once the user clicks that there would be a button here or arrow or a button something like the one I have created like this one. So once the user clicks on that for example this is for the business user as he or she goes here he'll directly be redirected to this start here. Right that you guys would be creating like that. So he'll be directly you know it would be easier for the person to directly go to the page is of his or her best. Right now if you go to the hyper ledger website everything is so complicated you cannot understand what to go where to go. So once the contributor or for example I am a new user and I am a contributor. I come to this page I'll see a proper GitHub template the GitHub template that you know the user is working on or like a grid of template is a different thing but the template I am working about talking about is this one like a proper page template. So this is what our project is that we have to make it easier for the new user to find and this section the left hand section section would be having different columns. I am not sure about what those columns would be. I'll be asking you to draw but definitely there would be a column for resources where the pages that are you know like most relatable pages for a contributor or a maintainer is would be here. So directly the contributor can click on that and you know go to that project or that page and get the you know guidance without much you know problems that we are facing right now. So this is all about the thing that they're working on on voting right now. And other than that if anyone has any questions just you know no one has any question. Yeah. So hello. Am I audible. Yes. Yeah. Okay. So this was all about and if you guys understood it. That's well and good and regarding the website. Yeah I was talking about the icons. So if anyone of you is good in making. Yeah. Sorry one clarification. You said the meeting is on Wednesday not Thursday. I couldn't hear you. Can you please come on. When did you say the meetings are on Wednesdays or on Thursdays. Yeah. So there is one more week that is not a community week. But I will be requesting John to make it through to a community meet so that everyone can join in. But in that meet basically the work that we do. John verifies and views that and I just tell whatever he said in the book and you know in format to you buy. So that's not me that you know we miss or something. The meet we have right now on every Monday it's what's recorded in hyper legend. So this is what this you have to definitely attend. But I'll definitely ask John once that if you guys can attend the meeting on Wednesday. It's 9 30 p.m. in Indian standard time and 12 p.m. in mountain standard mountain time. If you know if possible I'll share the link with you all as well. Okay. Yeah. So other than that any more questions. And please inform me like you know if you have any problem I can work start working on it for you if you. Work for this week or for few days just let me. I am over with what I wanted to say and. And we are extremely sorry sorry. So yeah can we can we wrap up. Guys if you will say I will just wrap up for today. Yeah. Okay cool. Thank you guys and if you guys have any problem please you know you can ping me every anywhere we have what's a group for the onboarding people. Other than that you can just portion on link them or just for everyone and so any problem just let me know I'll be there. See you guys bye.