 Welcome once again to The Breakfast on Plus TV Africa. Now let's go to the papers and see what major stories have made the headlines this Tuesday morning. We'll start with the punch newspapers. A big one should be on your screen in just a few seconds. Yes. It says tension rises in the southeast. Military begins operation against killings and others. Military police sure force rather creates confusion in email. Offices markets and others shot. Army launches exercise Golden Dawn in Anambra against IPOV cultists and others. Southeast Governors and other leaders meet in Inigo today to revive Ibubeagu. Also on the punch Nigeria service debt with 1.47 trillion Naira in the first half of 2021 says the debt management office. Nigerian Airlines to lose 1.4 trillion Naira as poor COVID-19 vaccination slows recovery. Billions of dollars lost as Facebook shots out 2.9 billion subscribers. Also Nigerians used 1.74 billion liters of petrol in August says the PPPRA. The punch still on Nwadume. Army shields killer soldiers refuses to court martial kidnapped collaborators. And CSOs berate federal government and VIPs as Pandora papers implicate PTOB and nine others. Also on the punch this morning. Strike suspended for salary payment on IPPIS. No work, no pay on resolve says the NARD. Women dies in apartment missing and missing two-year-old's body found in canal. So sad story. South-South states back rivers on VAT suit, planned security outfit. Over 509 local government communities under Boko Haram says a resident, 500. And also 567 million Naira required to hire 1,000 workers for legacy bottom rail projects. We can also find on the punch this morning, one final story. Special status, Lagos demands 1% of Nigeria's revenue. All right, we're moving from the punch news whippers now. Let's see what we can find on a daily independent. It says, exiting police may roll back schemes 13 trillion Naira AUM gains. And SACO, ex-staff, protests non-payment of 1.8 billion Naira severance package. Fiscal federalism, Lagos demands 1% in revenue allocation formula. PDP NEC may be rancorous as zoning. Bala report on others, dominate meeting. Despite attacks, INEC vows to proceed with Anambra, Gubernatorial polls. Stampede in a way, oversight at home, purported enforcement. And also Supreme Court reserves judgment as state wants for the government to refund 66 billion Naira. South states join rivers and Lagos value at the tax fight, set up security outfit. I think those are the ones that we will take on the daily independent this morning. Daily trust news whippers next attacks. INEC takes final decision on Anambra, Gubernatorial election today. Political parties and stakeholders hopeful. Ten year extension possible if, and that is from lawyers. On that, South Side Governors join suit against FIRS. Mark Zuckerberg loses $7 billion as WhatsApp, Facebook and Instagram go down globally. Why I called Tinuble Mr. President in London, says Rep Sulej. I remember there was a video that was released yesterday showing House of Rep member, I believe, calling for my legal state governor, Bala Med Tinuble, Mr. President. And that's what he's referring to. Boko Haram asks Niger residents to flout government orders. Sean schools. That's also on the daily trust news whippers. And finally, the leadership. Social media outage causes global shocks as Facebook messenger, WhatsApp and Instagram crash. Online businesses suffer losses. We can also find here military sets a three month target to crush terrorists. Residents doctors call of 63 day strike. And also we won't allow IPOB sit at home order in the north. Financial autonomy. Supreme Court reserves verdict on suit by 36 states. And we can also see the governor of Lagos state, Sun Wu Lu in the news saying revenue allocation review long overdue. Valiat attacks once again South Side State to join rivers and Lagos suit against federal government. Good morning to Mr. Chris Wando with the publisher of CKN News. Good morning. Thanks for joining us. Good morning. Thanks for having me. Great to have you on the program this morning. I'm going to start with the Southeast. And of course the one on the punch is one in saying tension rises in the Southeast as military begins operation against killings and others. There's something called oppression golden dawn in Anambra state against the IPOB and Southeast Governors and others meeting in Inugu basically to talk about reviving in Ibobeago. So let's start with the military operations and what your take is on those. Yes, thank you for the benefit of the doubt. Yes, that operation was launched in Inugu yesterday. But it is a, it also be known that it is not only for the Southeast. There are three operations that are launched in Inugu. One is for the Southeast. One for the North and that of North Central. But you are just, you are just my coincident that that was launched in Inugu. But the operations at the Amnesty is not only for the Southeast. I think we should put that out straight. There will be one for the North and another for the North Central. But the tension always rises from the one in the Southeast because if you remember whether it was the operation Python dance, Iguike as they had called it then. And there's always some controversy whenever it's going to start in the Southeast. Not because it's just in the Southeast. Yes, why is that? It's because of the activities of iPods then. And so that operation was directed at the iPods and the activities of iPod in the Southeast. And before that, if you also remember that, there has been this operation and exercise by the Army in the whole of Nigeria, especially when it comes to the Southeast, when it comes to the environment, they've always had this operation, starting to cover the issue of kidnapping, boundary tree and the rest of them. Before that, it has always happened in the South South, if you remember, with me. So that of the Southeast only came to the front page because of the activities of iPod. So many planned that that operation was directed at iPod. And it's when some of the pictures are coming out on social media, on the past many South Easterners were being treated, some were being robbed in the malls, others were being dehumanized. So that was why that of the Southeast at that point repeats. As I said, this is an operation that is covering the whole of Nigeria. And it's coming at the right time because the level of insecurity across Nigeria has gotten to a point where it has become so untenable. Because if you see what is happening in a new part of the country, say, that is the North, the South, South-West, South-East, South-South, North Central, Nimitz, we are practically under siege by the activities of kidnappers, terrorists, I don't call the bandit as I will say in this program, terrorists and all sorts of criminal activities. But I feel that the military suggests would be just having the operation but also be able to see if they can be able to arrest and prosecute those behind all this area. And not only the searches, there have been the issue of Boko Haram that has been on the ground for years. Nothing has been done about it. But talking about bandits also now, nothing has been done about it. I watched you, you were talking about Boko Haram, sponsors and the rest of them that the federal government has told us that they are not going to prosecute. Nothing is being done about that. So that is where the disparity comes. Where people see what is going on and your activities you are trying to help in the South. Then that's why I feel that there are some kind of indirect shielding of certain sessions of the country who have perpetrated all sorts of free food and the criminality compared to what is happening here. We are not controlling what is happening in East South East. But I think that this should be holistic, the military should be able to make sure. And the federal government should combat killing. To make sure that all those that are arrested for terrorism and all sorts of criminal acts are prosecuted. That is the way you can bring confidence to Nigeria to make sure to tell them that no part of this country seems put and on put, punitively. Is it also important to once again talk about how the Nigerian military seems to have cheapened itself with its constant presence on the streets and in civilian areas? Because I don't think this is common in other climes that the military has operations where they invade, not necessarily invade, but they come out in civilian areas and really just carry out whatever operations that there are. We still have the police that should be able to do the same work that they are claiming to want to do for the last quarter of the year. We still have the DSS, we still have the NSCDC and all the security outfits that should be able to carry out these same, you know, quotient of kidnapped gangs or cultism or whatever it is that they call it. Even in the police, there's different segments in the police. There's the anti-cultivism, there's the anti-terrorism, there's the anti-this and anti-that in the police. So why do we need to have the army come out every year and just be around civilians? Yes, we don't necessarily have the PR officer of Niger and the Pet. The Niger army has become a challenge of circumstances. If the police, the DSS, the civil defense, and they do what they are doing, they definitely wouldn't have half the military out there. But it's because our DSS, the police, and the civil defense and whatever I call it cannot cope with the situation. They don't seem to be able to handle the situation as it were. So what else will the government do than to deploy the military and to be able to help out? And that is, I also look at that from part of leadership. Is it that because we've not been able to, have we been able to fund the police, effective to be able to go about their mandate, that I think is the problem. We seem to be pumping so much money into the army and leave the police. We're supposed to take the responsibility of securing, that is, with the responsibility of internal security. That is the issue. So if you're not funding the police enough, what do you expect them to do? Are they going to go look at the kind of arms the policemen carry? You see them with Jack Chakabula. But you see the terrorists going with AK-47 and the rest of them. How many men do we have in the police? I doubt if we are, I don't think there are more than 500,000 in number. Then to police a population of about 200 million. Then what are the GSS? The GSS office in Annambra in Nenewi was just attacked. If they were equipped enough, can they be rooting that they will be, they can easily be overwhelmed like that by unknown gunmen or whatever you call them. So that is the, soldiers, the army is just a child of necessity. And I feel that that is a, you cannot go to the streets of United States of America or United Kingdom and see a military or the army walking around. Very few of them you see. It's either they are on mission or you see them at the airport, trying to put planes and the rest of them. But you see soldiers moving around the way our own people are moving. It's not possible. That is one. Then to also, the soldiers have also gotten themselves encrypted into the civilian society. Unlike in most parts of the world, they are put in the barracks. But you see that over 60 to 70% of our military men live in civilian, outside the barracks. So what do you see them in the morning? You see them waking up, putting a bus stop to go to their offices and their places of work and the rest of them. So it has become a part of force. But as I said, let us do the military by making sure that we equip our security agents, especially the police, so that they can effectively do their job. But if we don't be able to do that, we're going to have this kind of a portion of the military in our civil arrest and the rest of them, which is not good for us. The military is not trained to handle civil issues. Yeah. Just before we move on, because I think we need to move to something else. But I want you to also speak on army-civilian relationships, which has also been greatly battered across the country. And also in the southeast, because that also comes to question. You spoke about pictures of people rolling in the mud and some of all of that. There's also instances where people have complained that, you know, walking around in places in the southeast and they tell you to raise your hands or come down from your vehicle and walk to pass an army checkpoint and some of all of that, which really is very, very unnecessary. And so the importance of fixing that relationship between the Nigerian army and civilians, how well do you think they've done with that? The Nigerian army, for one, that I know, even have created a civilian military relation department that I know of. But there's also a public relations department in the Nigeria army, I don't know what they call it now. One is headed by Connelly, what is his name? It's somewhere in Lagos here. And the essence of that is to be able to bridge the gap between the military and the civilian populists. But how far they've gone on that I cannot say. Because when you see the level of distrust and distrust between the civilians and the military, the military just read that when the military has gone there more superior than the civilian on the street. For guessing that the gun they are carrying is bought by the taxes from the civilians, mostly. So I think the military should do more in the bridging gap between the distrust, between them and the civilians so that they can be like, let me go back to what happens in other parts of the world. When you see the military in other parts of the world, they don't behave the way our own soldiers behave here. You see a soldier walking about and see a woman having issues with her child and the soldier quickly runs, carrying the baby and try to help the woman. You see a motor accident scene because if the soldiers are you see them quickly doing that. You see where there is a collapse of bridges and some military moving to help. There are people in civilian areas. Yes, I know that there is an extension within the military that does that in areas of paper structure development, but the mistrust between them you don't need to see a soldier start running and start freely threatening. That is the situation we find ourselves in. I think there should be a much more robust relationship between the civilians and even of recent, I see that the military has also put up is there by organizing social media meet with bloggers social media in places and restaurants with the intent to be able to drive home some of their messages, but it is not hitting hard. So I think that the sub-accuracy of the military can still do more by making sure that we can have a soldier's a military with human face where people can interface where people can walk up to and say maybe to talk about where the problem is that there is mistrust between the people and that is why these insurgents is rising on a daily basis because people no longer trust the military. They cannot give them the necessary information that they need to work and tackle the insurgents and that is a problem. So I think we should work on the mistrust and the trust between the military and the civilians so that they can get all the necessary information maybe to call the level of insurgents that is just Let's move away from there now. Let's now talk about value-added tax and controversy. It's all of the papers this morning. South states are joining rivers in the suitor against the federal government and the AFIRS. Share your thoughts on that one. Yeah, it's a very good one. The South side governments said they would join the Gossan and rivers. Don't forget, governments of the North have raised the FIRS and they said they want to join the suit with FIRS. So it is good. At the end of the future is the Supreme Court that is going to determine this. But what we are seeing now is a gradual what do I call it now? A gradual look at our constitution as it were. Since the National Assembly have not been able to do the need for giving all the opportunities they were given to be able to look at some of the sections of the constitution. They set up a committee to look at the constitution but nothing has happened now. The states are not taking the initiative on their own. Look at some of the new sizes that have been seen in the constitution and see where they can correct it wrong. So the Nigerian system will better forest our constitution with more straight in. Then the states, if they are going to have there will be such an increase in the South as rivers, Lagos and so on. They have been marginalized. There are resources to develop for that state. They may be against the Supreme Court. Okay, and of course I'm still talking about more money. I think I saw something on the Lagos state governor demanding, yes, it says Lagos demands 1% of revenue allocation. Of course the governor is talking about a special status for Lagos state seeing what they contribute to the nation's errands. So do you agree with that? Lagos have become the proverbial twist that will last for more. Yes and I think that Lagos just concentrates on its internally generated revenues, making so much internally generated revenues, making so much from that. It's making so much. Lagos is so blessed. Some states are quarreling with Lagos very well and Lagos had the status of being the federal capital of the country for over 70 years. Most of the infrastructures that you see that are presently being enjoyed by Lagos shares or Lagos state is because of that status. Lagos have had it so good more than other states. Calabas used to, at one point, used to be the federal capital of Nigeria. That's even part of the point-dependent that you cannot compare Calabas to Lagos. So I think Lagos should just continue to enjoy its resources as it's presently. I don't know what they're asking for but they have enough to go around and they are the envy of so many states. So I think the states should concentrate on internal generated revenue. So many infrastructures going on here. They can make so much money on there. Even without federal government assistance, Lagos state was able to make it. Don't forget what happened during the Tino Group administration where Lagos government was denying of his recognition from federal government by the Pasanchal regime. And Lagos survived. So I don't support that. There's other people supporting it. I personally don't support that. I think Lagos state have been able to handle it. What I just feel is that this should also be spread around other states. Other states of progression are practically dying. Some cannot even raise up to one billion. Less than one billion yearly per monthly on internally generated revenues. So I totally disagree with Governor Sao Olu and the government of Lagos state are not saying additional from the federal government. I don't think it's necessary. Lagos can survive. You know then how many support is there. But I don't think we finally come on stage. Because the biggest refinery in the whole world. Do you know how much Lagos that we're making from there? And so many other infrastructures that are destroyed by Lagos so I totally don't support that. Well, since you mentioned Tinnubu, just before we get to talk about the NARD, Suspending in Strike. First of all, start with Rep Suleja who is responding to and saying why I called Tinnubu Mr. President in London. So quickly share your thoughts on that one. And of course I'm sure you have also seen the numerous pictures of people traveling to London to visit the Fama Lagos state governor from House of Reps, members, senators and everybody you can imagine. So quickly share your thoughts on Rep Suleja's statements. I have no problem with anybody traveling to London to see Tinnubu. He has the right to receive visitors. And the only person I've always asked those traveling government officials, I hope they are going with their money. I hope they are traveling to London with their own money and not from state ports. Because if it's from state port then we have issues. Because those are money that can be used. We can only put a call through Tinnubu from anywhere you are asked. My leader as they call him, I hope you are getting better. You can go to these days of WhatsApp call, these days of dual, these days of telegram or video calls unless we can talk. So I see most of this is just a co-pancy on the part of politicians. That is their way. They are not going there because they are just going there just for political exigencies. And to be able to to be specific in the statement made by that so-called 100-baud is very stupid of them. Sorry for the choice of word. There is only one president in Nigeria and that is Mohammed Bawari. So whatever he is in wait and calling another president that to me is should not come from anybody that calls himself a leader of a politician otherwise. But I don't have any issue with that. Would it be permissible if he is expecting that he would run and very likely or maybe would win in 2023 would speak as statements. He has a right to run. He has a right to run. You have a right to run. I have a right to run. Run Nigeria is deprived. The constitution has made it clear on those that can run from presidents. If he meets those criteria, he can run. He respect the words of anybody. Anybody can run. I move out 50, I have the right to run if I have the opportunity to run. It is not for the literature to determine whether they are going to support him or not. He has a right to run. Just like everybody else. Let's talk about the resident doctors who have suspended their 64-day strike. Very likely we will be speaking with a representative from the president I believe of the NARD this morning. But quickly share your thoughts on the strike suspension. It is a good one. When two elephants might be just so fast it has only been the Nigerians that are stopping this macabre dance between NARD and the federal government. I commend NARD for what they have done to bring to the forward the challenges they face and the inability of government to respect contracts signed with them. They would not follow the strike and I hope that the government will also bring this part of the bargain making sure that all their demands are met so that we don't come back to have this kind of unnecessary tension again. CSO's berate federal government and VIPs as Pandora papers implicates PTOB and nine others. Your thoughts? PTOB has come to make a statement on that and I want to give you the benefit of that. If there is anywhere that has to be the reason that PTOB stole money from the the government PTOB has been the only governor that came out when he was leaving office on account of his office and all the money that he left both in card and shares and the rest of them and presented it to the people of Anambra who can google it PTOB to me is a politician that most other politicians to me is a man that I trust. If there is any discrepancies in his asset declaration address that can be taken off but what should be more concerning is that did he steal any money? If PTOB has stolen money from PTOB they would have brought that to the limelight in the past six, seven, eight years so I want to give you the benefit of that but as I said if anybody has any evidence PTOB should bring it to people but the man has come time and time again that said that I did not steal any of Anambra money don't forget PTOB was a billionaire before it became the top of Anambra state so I will give you the benefit of that with respect to what Pandora investigation came out are you also eager to see what new because I have seen that there is something on Governor Baguudu that dropped this morning also on Pandora papers are you also eager to see what which of Nigeria's political elite would be named and what we might find? I can't wait to see that don't forget it when the western was the names of certain presidents that are present I am sure you must have seen that report in the western was already defending themselves and the rest of them it reminds me of what that guy now weekly Julian Assange yes what he used to do in those days I think Pandora has taken over since the guy has been arrested and kept him from Nicaragua and just taking over from where and the best why this is a bit much because over 600 journalists were involved with this and certain media has been involved in this investigation so that is taking to a higher height compared to what we really have been doing but I can't wait to see the names of some of these top officials that have been named in this so called scandal but let us also give them the benefit of that to defend themselves they are only suspects they are not convicted absolutely and of course one of the stories that you know I was shocked at this has over 500 Niger local government communities under Boko Haram and that's from a resident what are your thoughts on that one is that surprising it's not surprising it's the same thing happening in Konusete which is where we go back to the security let us be able to do the needs so that we can secure the lives and property of our people so that Nigerians wherever they are can be seen the way we are and nobody be seen I find it difficult to even travel around the country as I used to do it before and that is the most opportunity part of it or not nobody is seen in any part of Nigeria very sad or I think we can wrap up here at 7.49 thank you very much Chris Wando always very interested in speaking with you on Tuesdays and we wish you are very interested in their head you too sir all right stay with us here on the breakfast on plus TV Africa we are going back in history to 2017 if you remember the Me Too movement one very very major investigation was published on this day and we will tell you about it in the next video