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Yeah Going there for a wedding and then that we thought on that Sunday night I'm gonna train on down to London town and then Monday. I've got the whole day set aside So I'm trying to work with the Brito on some get-together Maybe a meet-up place to do the show and all that Awesome, I just need to Which reminds I need to ask you a question We could do that to show what are you doing on the Friday October 6th I Be able to help me out. I got you. All right, cool. You pick it up when he's throwing down Not subtle or anything, but Listen, hey, I'm a totally related note Never been subtle I'm subtle in the same way that like someone who cooks a really smelly dinner food item Uses a microphone cover. Oh that reminds me I want Want to go pick up some some sabashio yaki at the Japanese market and make it tonight Speak of the stinky fish All right, you guys ready? Here we go Daily Tech news show is powered by you the audience to find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday September 7th 2017 I'm Tom Merritt Justin Robert young alongside. How are you sir? I am lovely Yeah Sometimes you got to go out and and feel your wild oats in the con scene of them I like to feel them myself. Just a good hearty grip Fair enough don't embarrass us in front of our guests. We also have a chamberlain here Who is a host of Beyond the Playlist? And and some podcast he does with some some guy in Colorado And also the reason he's here today is the climbout network Which is a fantastic new enterprise that you're doing. We're gonna talk about it Helping people to stay sober and encourage clean living online. Yeah, thanks Tom for having me on and Justin I see in you no needs to worry about being embarrassed. I know you You are well aware of Yes, all the oats it's healthy. It's hard healthy to fill your house. Yeah Hey folks, let's start with a few tech things you should know Google announced that support for its Windows and Mac OS Google Drive apps will end December 11th and the app will shut down All together. It'll just stop working on March 12th 2018 Google has two replacement apps So you're not left high and dry back up and sink which replaces not only Google Drive But Google photos uploader and if you're an enterprise user, you can get a hold of drive file streamer. I Did not know that they had an app And now I do Too late. Well now you have to you have three apps. You can be aware of I do now like now I can forget about those two Designer Ryan Yassin run the James Dyson award for his children's clothing petite plie That can expand to fit growing children. Yassin is now in talks with investors used Authix which lets materials become thicker and expand in two directions when stretched Yeah, it's it's currently also called Poisson's rule I know we're not pronouncing any of this right, but it's it's fascinating because It's it's not just a smart material and it's not a smart material in the sense of having technology in it like a little like Electricity in it. It's just something that can stretch with your child and let me say I mean Hammond you do you have kids, right? I Do have kids and this is an ingenious idea But I don't know one I don't know if they I would want my daughters looking like they're wearing like Chinese lanterns Because that's kind of what it looks like is that that expanding paper material Yeah, they dressed it in was an Asian would you still say? Come on come on. I'm being very honest It looks like one of those those lanterns that you expand the people just call the blanterns. Yeah I would I I mean I really like the idea because my kid just shot through like three sizes of clothes in like half a year and I mean if if there was a way to Get a better design on it Prototype you guys and apparently it's like a prototype modeled on some really high-end stylish children's clothing It sells for a lot of money. So I'm wondering if they can make it tighter So the it's instead of being like a quarter inch It's like maybe a millimeter so you can have a finer fabric and what's really interesting is you know for people might understand This isn't like spandex or lycra that you know you Stretches this is actually unfolds. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's like an origami thing I wonder what happens when they wash it though because then things with the weight of the water and everything it would misshapen Well, that's where the that's what the choice of fabric would really yeah would be crucial All right, so if granite almost does this I'm in All right Moving on to a much more boring Apple rumor KGI securities analyst Ming Chi quote told investors Wednesday that Samsung may be charging Apple up to a hundred thirty dollars per screen for the new iPhone That's well above the fifty dollars fifty five dollars that's estimated as the top That apple pays for the previous iPhone screens and the Wall Street Journal backed up quotes previous report that the new flagship iPhone will not have touch ID You know when we'll find out about all this on Tuesday uh So no Touch ID at all that they had a feature on the last phone and now Maybe on Tuesday that will be what they announced No clue I would be blown away And it'll be interesting to see yeah, because this is not the first report. There have been multiple reports saying this Uh, well, you want to know when we'll find out Tuesday Uh at Lazian introduced uh team communications app stride, which does chat video conference and task management among other things Stride will roll out gradually The app is free to use with limited history and three dollars per user per month for unlimited messages And file storage. Here are some more top stories. Amazon is Asking for tax breaks. That's not the way they put it. Uh, amazon says we're taking requests for proposals or rfps From cities that want to become home to our brand new second headquarters in north america Which we call hq2 And amazon says it will be as big or bigger Than the main headquarters in seattle amazon says employees would even be given the choice of whether they want to work in one Or the other headquarter or maybe both if they are supposed to be working at a headquarter It's expected to employ 50,000 people and we'll get five billion dollars in investment from amazon So a lot of money a lot of jobs coming to some city that can convince amazon It's worth their while to build the new hq2 in their town Tacoma Just like right south of seattle So, I mean, but here's the thing so, uh, you know redmond Cupertino mountain view Detroit like these are all cities that are synonymous with companies that you think of immediately once you say The names of those cities so what they are dangling Is the idea that yes your city can be so associated with a company that is very much on the rise We speculated a a little short list here, but let's start East and go west and assume that they want Two poles on either side of america and maybe even north america I would say pittsburgh would be A city that would probably put in a bid for this and very much want to continue their identity Along with karnagy melin as the tech city of the east. What say you? I'm uh, I'm gonna say boston and new york will be in the running But they won't have as much space downtown to do it. Uh chat nougat Nashville the triangle Uh, uh, those are those are all places and don't forget Atlanta land I'll always be in on these things. Although. Although. I would almost say Atlanta chat nougat is Atlanta adjacent You know that that's about an hour drive. Uh, and and you you would be only an hour. Yeah No, toronto or no montreal Oh, no, toronto is a good one. Uh, I don't think it's a good one. Uh, uh, good good read incorrect. Uh, I think that that both The exchange rate and the taxes there will keep amazon from well the taxes is what amazon's after right? They could make break that there's not much they could do about the exchange rate. I guess you're right. Yeah All right, let's move to the middle of the country. Let's say they want to go midwest. Where do you think? Chicago or minneapolis? Greenville, Illinois. I was thinking st. Louis Uh, I would I would put the dallas fort worth Metroplex area above all of those that is a no state tax area that has been very very friendly and Ain't gotten nothing but space forever expect st. Louis to offer the edward d jones dome to amazon and be spurned But let's say short of dakota dakoma. They do want to stay a west coast pacific live in city Uh, uh, where where do you like there? I I I think if they stayed if they did go west coast, which I don't expect them to Vancouver might make a play. Like you say, there's the canadian issues there with exchange rates and such I think san jose would be in in there Because they've got the talent around And I wouldn't I would put it past an la area city Or even san diego san diego. Well, I could say so I think would do the taxes for them Salt lake is actually pretty tech friendly and tech savvy. Not a bad choice. Not a bad choice at all Oh vegas There we go. I would say ding ding ding ding ding ding Nevada will roll out the red carpet tax wise. Yeah, they will they do it for tesla Well and zappos, which is an amazon on company has done a lot in vegas Not all of it's been successful grant you but yeah And I mean vegas is desperate I mean not to say that they want to give up their image as sin city But they're they're desperate to looking to diversify Their their economic base. Well, remember that vegas is essentially a small town That they are they are a small town that has one big booming industry, but effectively that is Several blocks all facing inward and other than that. It's it's a tiny kind of area So people who live there that would be a don't forget don't forget kansas city I won't give a shout out to kansas city Because with google fiber they've they've started to have a little startup community there I bet they'll be in this running All right, facebook handed over evidence to the us special prosecutor robert moeller that $100,000 was spent on 3000 ads Over a two-year period ending may 2017 by a campaign to promote divisive social and political messages The campaign directed users toward accounts created by the internet research agency in saint petersburg russia The accounts have been shut down the news came the same day that the wall street journal reported facebook claimed it could reach 41 million 18 to 24 year olds in the u.s. Hurray Meanwhile the official u.s. Census reports. There's only 31 million of those folks in the country So 10 million 13 and unders that have reported themselves as 18 got it um yeah, uh The the more salacious story here is the russian stuff Keep in mind when looking at this. This is real evidence. It's really been handed over $100,000 over two years and only 3000 ads doesn't have a lot of reach. This is not a huge campaign Uh, it certainly isn't uh, this is more an interesting story because of the names That you put into it and mix it up in a pot facebook russia robert moeller Yeah, uh, uh 2016 election now all of a sudden you start paying A lot closer uh of a watch on it, but i agree with you right now It appears and this is more of the broader political sense That the moeller investigation is at a phase be at the end or the middle Where they want to start shaking things loose and a lot of things are kind of coming out to the press One would guess so they could continue to move their investigation forward by Uh putting pressure on people Scientists from china's zhejiang university have published research demonstrating It's possible to activate voice assistants like siri or the amazon echo by using ultrasound that is inaudible To humans now this is presented as an attack vector, right? You you can get near somebody's voice assistant, maybe near their phone And play something that they can't hear and get their phone to do things Researchers converted normal spoken commands into frequencies higher than 20 kilohertz 16 voice control systems Worked with this, uh, obviously siri amazon echo, but also google now samsung s voice Cortana and a number of in-car interfaces where that starts to get a little more interesting. I think researchers call it The dolphin attack Vans to the left right Uh, this is more of a prank than it is an attack I'm so excited to figure out a way that I could do this so I can make brian brushwood's eye Various horrible things, uh Without him knowing it, uh, uh, you know, but other than that I think that this is this is a cool Fun hack that is makes you think about the nature of sound itself But I don't know exactly how much you want to panic about it. It's not terribly practical It's but it's good solid security research because it's interesting that they could make that work It shows that hey these voice systems really do need to this is the early days when we're saying I know no one has figured out how to use it for, uh, a harmful process And if they did it's really hard to get access to it, but let's Figure this out now before someone does figure out how to use this maliciously So yeah, maybe cut out ultrasound because no human speaks in ultrasound So you shouldn't respond to things that are in ultrasound. Yeah Disney CEO Bob Iger announced that disney will make its star wars and marvel movies exclusive to its new streaming service launching With disney and pixar content in late 2019 that means that they Pull notice To netflix that and other streaming services that they will very kindly not be renewing their contract. Yeah, so a smart move I I understood why disney might want to hedge their bets and give star wars and and uh, and marvel movies To someone maybe not even netflix. Maybe hulu. Maybe somebody else Uh, but I think this is the smarter move stock market seems to disagree with me disney took a little dump after they announced this But I think it's a way more compelling offering to me as a consumer If you say hey new disney service launching at x price point It includes all your disney tv shows all the classic disney movies all the pixar movies all the marvel movies All the star wars movies hamon. Does that's something you'd pay for? Yeah, depending on what the price is for sure. Um, what's going to happen to the netflix originals The netflix originals, that's a very good point are a different animal. They are a co-production, right? So marvel and netflix work together to make them for netflix So it's disney being a production company same way that marvel and sony make the x-men movies those stay as sony's movies It's only the marvel movies that marvel makes that get to go into this disney That's a good point the x-men movies and the and the new spider-man movies may not go into this new disney service either So what what do you think the price point's going to be? Now that's the trick. Hold on. Hold on before we get to the price point. Let's let's let's debate this Is this them being serious? Or is this them trying to just throw their most popular ip into a bucket and say pay pay for this bucket? Because we just have our most popular ip in here because that that ultimately we don't know But I think it could be either it could be them saying no you want to know what we want to go Right now everybody who's looking at this is saying oh god another service, right? But what you don't know yet is how serious they are between now and 2019 about making this a compelling rad service that you want to buy in fact Imagine this little scenario What if 2019 the midnight launch of this service not only has All of the old star wars all of the old marvel movies But it has the original unspecial edition Version of the star wars movies. Oh, yeah if they can say no, this is not just disney doing a disney thing This is for marvel super fans. This is for Star wars super fans. We want to serve you with the best thing possible And we can't do that if we're licensing these things out to other people if disney smart That's exactly what they're doing and they're coming up with original shows Yeah in all of these verticals not just star wars And a new marvel show a new disney show that is exclusive to this and they make it a compelling price point You know eight and eight ninety nine or so And they say we operate bam media the premier place to stream movies So it's going to be solid tech. It's going to work on day one Nothing is in the vault from snow white on it's all there every disney cartoon every mickey mouse cartoon Everything disney that's super compelling for people Originally batteries like to me. I look at this very similar to like the wwe network I'm a wrestling fan. I very happily pay an extra ten dollars because they cater to What a wrestling fan wants if they do that for star wars and pixar or pixar and marvel fans then uh the same thing Hammond, what's the most you'd pay for it? Uh, I'd probably think right around maybe the 12 dollar mark. That's that's that would stretch your budget Yeah, I think that'd be about the the top in for me I might even go up to 15 Because the hbo is already there Go past 15 though. I didn't want it to be cheaper, but 999 is the is the at your top. All right John Deere announced it'll pay more than that 305 million dollars actually to acquire blue river technology a developer of crop spraying equipment that uses machine learning The sprayer uses computer vision to identify the weeds and then only spray the herbicide on the weeds that need it Well, I guess the weeds don't think they need it But we think they need it. Uh, that saves you herbicide that saves you money blue river is also developing a bot for lettuce thinning I'm expecting they're going to be able to have a robot walk the beans Uh, they've got a quad copter imaging system for data collection from the field So you can you can look through what's happening in your fields This will give john deere a 60 person team in silicon valley that specializes in machine learning. This is big Uh, joke about walking the beans Yeah, no kidding man, right Uh, not to mention the fact that it's like just a cbs sitcom, uh, waiting to happen, right? John Deere buys the startup in silicon valley Uh, uh, you know the big question here though is that john deere is fairly proprietary with their with their rural tech, right With their software. Oh, yeah. No, they they fight against copyright exemptions for repair. We've talked about that before I'm not a big fan of that That said the they are, you know outside of intellectual property rights very innovative and progressive when it comes to technology Certainly. So, uh, you know, it's very very interesting to see where a lot of this, uh, more cutting edge tech kind of reacts into the The agrarian lifestyle Someone has already suggested we title the show tom says weeds need herbicide weeds disagree Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day like a round up of tech headlines in about five minutes Farm joke subscribe to daily tech It was a weed joke. Yeah, it was subscribe to daily tech headlines.com Uh, you can get it as a podcast you can get it on the amazon echo you can get it on the anchor app at anchor dot f m All right, let's uh, let's talk to take a moment here to talk to hammond about the climb out network This is your enterprise your effort Uh climb out network.com to help people Who are looking to stay sober stay clean living? Uh, but doing it online this kind of reminds me of what russ pits is doing with his take this thought dot org which is Helping people deal with suicidal thoughts and and suicidal impulses and and saying hey There's a huge community of you guys out there if you can only talk to each other and the internet Helps you do that tell us a little bit about how you came up with this and why you're doing it So what happened is I have spent the last 20 25 years working in and around corrections addiction treatment places adults juveniles all over the place and I've been podcasting for about four years and I've realized the power of community in both and I've realized that um When you have wraparound services getting someone sober is actually the easy part It's keeping them sober as a struggle. So having a community of people that they can rely on and support each other Um is super important and has lasting effects There's a study that johns hopkins did that we kind of based our our information on that talked about the resiliency of sobriety when When community is involved and the internet is all about community And so what we've done is we've taken The idea of having a show and then on the website We have a forum that's private secure You can be as anonymous as you want you can be as open as you want But the whole key is to be as honest as you have to be to start dealing with these things and actually getting help We have uh three therapists with us right now working They're all experts in the field. They're all have been directors or are directors of facilities I've known them for you know, almost 20 years. And so we're getting together and just doing shows about um Maintaining sobriety and identifying issues and then we have the forum and then we're going to do live webinars and coaching and you know have exclusive content behind Behind the pay wall where the community is kind of safe and secure and you can get a little bit more more information and help from us I think this Go ahead, Justin. All right. This is fascinating to me. I've had a family history of of addiction not only with alcohol but also with gambling and uh I think a lot of the reason why in in both of those cases The the any kind of recovery Uh, which was attempted multiple times never really stuck was because You were locked into whatever it was physically around you And this is something that a lot of people find who are in uh internet communities That they are are more connected emotionally To those that they have self selected via the internet communities than they are with the people just happened to be Based on the you know the human lottery around them How Is outreach important to say hey look you might not Be somebody who's ever been on a message board. You might not really know exactly what the internet is But this is a recovery tool that can really help you Yeah, in fact, what we're trying to do is to generate interest through lots of different methods We do have the podcast and that creates a huge net already But we also are going out to conferences and and we're getting the word out kind of ground level Ground roots person to person face to face because that's where a lot of this stuff happens. It's a personal interaction And yes, it's still on the internet, but we're trying to create this Kind of personal connection with people so they have that feeling of community that feeling of connection And I think that's one thing that gets lost In sort of the the back of the envelope talk about online communication Is everybody thinks immediately of twitter abuse that that's where your head goes to and there are so many examples Of online communities that aren't like that that aren't toxic and are helpful And and I know you take inspiration from a lot of those things like warcraft guilds and and and and private forums around You know enthusiastic geeky topics that you know like twin peaks or something like that Well, actually tom you actually are the the the person who came up with the phrase you get the the chat room deserve and we hope we deserve a chat room that's supportive and honest and helpful and can moderate itself And actually do some real good in the world. Yeah, and and another thing that you mentioned when we were We're talking before the show is that Oddly there's some evidence that that people are more honest when they're online. You would think it's the opposite Oh, I can hide and lie and not that people don't do that But that isn't the trend right? Yeah, there's this article from business insider where jeff handcock actually did a kind of a ted talk presentation about How people are more honest online Because I think of that kind of shroud of anonymity and also because the trust level because you are picking the people you are with And and you're you're leaving digital tracks people understand, you know, if I put something on the internet it may never go away Yes, exactly, you know, so so that's that's part of it too and and and beyond that it Unless you were dealing with sociopaths, which is a different story where you are lying because you Don't know why If you are self selecting a community that you believe can help you then the incentive is there to be honest yep, and and That's what I think is remarkable about applying this to addiction recovery is that maintenance and maintenance when you need it is Crucial it's the reason why you have sponsors and a and and a and stuff like that is that you want to be able to In that moment of weakness Call somebody talk to somebody and You know, this might not be the person that can come get you Uh, you know drive out, but maybe they can you you never really know and and if you build up a large enough group a large enough network online Then you effectively create the most powerful Uh a tool for dealing with this kind of stuff that you can Well, and also the fact that you can carry it around in your pocket You carry it with you all the time makes it an almost on-demand kind of source of support Yeah, and and that's that that's crucial because like Justin said it's never leaves you you've got your sponsor there Right, you know anytime you need it. That's amazing if people want to find out more Uh and sign up. Well, what does it involve? What does the climb out network offer them? so right now we just actually launched our forum and uh, it's that we call it the house because we're kind of basically around the sober living community the sober house and um, you can sign up there actually there is a coupon code for listeners of this show It's climb out dTNS and it gets you three free months of membership to our our site So if you feel like you need help, we're a growing community. We've just launched this week So right now the forum's there and as we go, there'll be more content about We kind of divided it as the free shows our information and entertainment and on the backside of that behind the paywall We have stuff that is more education access to the therapist for coaching access to mirror my wife for coaching I mean, we've got lots of different things that we're we're planning on doing We're develop going to develop a pdf interactive pdf of like treatment work Workpages and things like that to kind of help reinforce the things you're doing in your own treatment So as we grow and as we get more materials It's just going to become a more robust source of information and help So you've got you've got free resources there though. I want to emphasize that It's it's not there are things that you can buy But you don't have to have money to take advantage. No, not at all not at all climboutnetwork.com and like I said the coupon code for Three free months is climb out DTNS All right, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit and submit stories and ideas for topics I'd like to see that happen in there or at the facebook group The subreddit is daily tech news show reddit.com and the facebook group is facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show Before we get out of here. I want to mention And thank bob Who is an electrical engineer for 10 plus years? He's worked at nuclear and and pretty much everything you could think of I think he's working on solar now He said he I've got his full email that it will put in the show notes at daily tech news show dot com But i'm going to read some excerpts here. He was excited to hear us talk about his industry. He says so sorry for the long email But I truly hope it helps and would like to provide more info if I can well, guess what bob We're going to have you on the show. I think next wednesday with scott johnson to talk about this But he says thankfully the industry is and has been bracing for cyber attacks for years And I wanted to provide a few links It's good to hear others talking about it though As no one wants a company or its operators or upper management to become complacent Doesn't mean there isn't always more to do either the north american electric reliability corporation or nerk Is a federal mandated company that develops and maintains numerous standards covering what is and what isn't Covered by your preparation plans What to do to protect yourself and how to make sure a utility has the means to respond to a cyber attack Each year as a nerk cleared employee bob says i'm required to take training on these and have fresh background checks done every five to six years nerk also sends out secure notices of events attacks and findings for utilities to mitigate before many are made public as for the future The iec 61850 series standard lays out how the brains and scotta systems behind the major equipment for electrical systems must talk to each other securely And lastly as an example from 2007 Where the department of homeland security staged the destruction of a generator from opening and quickly closing a breaker called the aurora Generator tech test basically they were able to get in and flip some breakers and destroy Major equipment in this simulation. So it's not about You know losing power at a hospital. That's that's part of it, but it's also about destroying the electrical grid Uh, we in the industry actually were informed of this through nerk Via a special secure note that we had to respond to way before cnn published video about it So hopefully that one is long since covered But it is an example of things outside of just opening a breaker that could happen and on that note Thanks for the show and glad to hear the possibility of sarah joining you again soon If you have any questions about electrical grids big and small, I'd be happy to help out Well, we took bob out up on that so he's going to be on the show and then an undisclosed person Wanted to help calm scott spheres about the power grid going down saying he should all uh, he should know that our national laboratories Are working on infrastructure and cyber security and the following link is to one such lab Some of their projects and capabilities are available on their website. You probably even have listeners there I'm wondering who that could be but it's inl.gov and we'll have a link to that in the show notes as well So yes, serious problem with electric grids, but not one that people who work in electricity are not unaware of or preparing for Thank you ham and chamberlain for joining us. Appreciate you coming on Once again remind people where to go to find the climb out network and what that coupon code is You can go to climb out network.com and the uh coupon code is climb out deep tns Check it out and thank you. Justin robber young. Uh, what do you got going on? Oh, man, uh, uh, I'll tell you what everybody can find me just in our young on twitter I want to take this time to let everybody know if you are in the south florida area Uh, or florida in general, uh, uh, please please please Uh, this uh, you know hurricane urma that is going to hit over the next few days Uh, please stay safe if you are in a coastal area and you have been under mandatory evacuation Please get out as soon as possible. This is You know, I've I've spent the last couple days trying to control my friends and family uh to to take flights out here and and uh Enjoy a weekend watching this storm hit on television as opposed to living it Uh, floridians are hard-headed when it comes to hurricanes It is something that I know very very well and I am thankful to not have to deal with now, but Please this is not a normal storm This is about twice the size is andrew if you remember when that hit in 1992 I'm speaking directly to floridians. Please be safe. Do not try to ride this out And uh, uh, I know it's going to be rough over the next couple days to get all the supplies that you need But make sure that you are prepared to hunker down with this storm Uh, uh, you know, we we we really really really hope that everybody who is listening Right now comes out on the other side of this as as good as they possibly can. Yeah, uh, dough Having been out there for great calm from garret windsuril and knowing he's out there and so many other folks are out there Uh, really appreciate you passing that along from a floridian to other floridians. Yeah, thank you, just Just if you are in anything that's mandatory evacuated I know that there was that one time that it didn't hit and it wound up going east and everybody breaks out and it's not that big Of a deal. This is that big of a deal. 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Get more at frog pants dot com I'll promise you have enjoyed this program Good show So what are they saying sunday uh or late saturday is when they expect to call florida Well, you know, I tried to get my family on a flight out on saturday And uh Apparently fort lauderdale international airport is going to be closed As soon as it hits tropical storm force winds So saturday is when saturday storm force winds begin sunday will probably be when the i Passes over but the latest advisory has it switching Again back west which would be a more direct path I mean if you Turks turks and cacos are under the gun right now with the tropical force winds if you've seen the pictures out of saint martin's it's this is this is I don't I don't even have words for it. I mean her it's category five. That's the word Uh, and and for the record It is category five with 185 mile per hour sustained winds If they had a category six based on the intervals that they go Categories one through five it would be a category six. It is it is a five plus If it were made in cupratino um this is a Devastating storm if you see it side by side with andrew it dwarfs it now The good news if there is good news is that by the time it hits florida, it'll be a category four Barely at 145 mile per hour winds as it is predicted by The national hurricane center. That's something that is on par with Uh, uh wilma and katrina Which had come through the difference is all of those including andrew Hit from the east it came east to west And went over the state like that. This is the first time That it will come that a hurricane in my recollection a hurricane of this power will come from the south and literally take out every major floridian city from Key west to hit every yeah, I mean Yeah, whatever you whatever you want to call it. It's it's gonna get a portion of the eye normally if it comes Uh east to west You know if it comes into the north and you know, orlando is going to be more affected if it comes into the south The miami is going to be more affected But nobody gets skipped in the direction it might come if it if it is coming up now which uh For those of you who heard the jury episode, uh, it would be a sounding situation Uh, everybody would be Uh, uh Very much affected And there's not nothing to play around with uh, no and and You know again, it's it's Uh You can't live in florida and see so many of these come and go And it is so funny as soon as a couple a couple major hurricanes make landfall The national media does this thing where they start to give a rat's ass about all these other hurricanes that are forming in the atlantic You know, and it's like listen they form in the atlantic all the time. I remember years when they burnt the entire Uh, a through z alphabet and they had oh, yeah to alpha beta the You know alpha to omega alphabet This happens, right? Yeah, uh And hurricane science Is something that is very fascinating And I encourage encourage everybody before they stop giving a rat's ass about it in a month Uh to read up about hurricane science because how and why they form Is interesting. I I actually just finished reading isaac storm. You know, it's about uh, It's an eric larson book about the storm that hit galveston in 1900 Oh, wow. Yeah, i'll tell you what there are Devastating stories of hurricanes pre doppler pre uh national hurricane center. There is one and I I can't remember the name But it was being tracked by the navy Then it turned north and the navy decided well, you know, like all these hurricanes they turned north. That was it They'll loop the loop in the atlantic and I believe it was on labor day Just clobbered florida that was almost totally unprepared And just left a devastation in its wake Uh the we are very lucky that we have the technology that we have To pinpoint and prepare at the kind of distance that we have right now and Hurricanes florida's estate built for hurricanes. It ain't a surprise that they're coming it's just Man, don't be a dingleberry if you're out in one of these in these evacuatable areas Uh and by that when when I say evacuation areas what that normally refers to is You know fort lauderdale is referred to as the venice of america because there are so many canals and uh areas that are I thought that was venice The reason why you need to be evacuated is because emergency personnel will not be able to get to you if the bridge is damaged or If there is so much cover on there that they can't remove it at the point That uh, uh, you know, they need to come and get you and if if your Survival is a matter of a few hours You have to get the f word out. There are many of these communities up and down the coast Uh the keys too is the reason why I was I was on twitter a week ago telling people from the keys to get the hell out of town Because that is one road You only get one road in and out from the mainland of florida into the keys us one. That's it Uh, if there is a major issue and the keys are destroyed Uh, and it looks like specifically key lago Uh marathon key a lot of those northern keys Are are gonna feel the eye on this one like Just I know there's not a lot of safe places safe places in florida But one of the more unsafe places you're safer in miami than you are in key lago right now get out Okay, uh titles I uh, just went ahead and put dolphin attack in for the time being while justin was talking because I thought that was too Important to interrupt, but i'm still open. I could change it Have enough with likes Some people just call them lanterns Uh, see i'm never living that down. I didn't oh my gosh John dear. John dear. No, I was just teasing you too. No, I know I was like, oh roger is enjoying this way John dear weeding out manual labor Reading out group therapy honesty is a net thing Um Let's see the other one the net can be your safety net honest. Oh, uh, honesty is a web policy Google drive off the cliff google parks google drive Rice paper shirt New origami clothes to take forever to fold I'm about to upload any any anybody Got another idea besides dolphin attack. No, I like dolphin attack dolphin attack. It is We keep keep looking through the submissions if you want i'm just If there's any more compelling ones in there roger by all means Ones to tickle your fancy Well, if you count russian, uh star robots and russia facebook adds you Man he that that thing does not die. No, it sure doesn't 80s robo tractors for the wind It was a weed joke south sober cast If it wasn't even that kind of weed joke Amazon's or amazon's alternative scene in seattle, I think it's gonna be vegas. I honestly do You they win everything they got the raiders And they they already have an animal if that's a win The only thing they don't have is a future reliable water supply, but i'm sure amazon Can somehow he's gonna set into a crap TNT used dolphin attack yesterday None of a bitch Damn it moroni and hell All right, uh from russia with likes Some people just call them lanterns I don't know it's really funny. Oh, no, they were they wrote when dolphins attack siri Oh So I think we can get away Why don't you just say a can of tuna? It's synonymous with dolphin And the only reason I won't I would change it otherwise But I've already uploaded it so I'd have to like Delete everything Well, I just want to thank you guys again for letting me do this and oh sure My wires and I almost wish we had gone a little more into the fact that uh, this is your this is your venture, right? This is you know, I don't want to Focus too much of the fact that you've lost a job But you know, you've you've thrown your lot into this. This is your bet and everything on it, which is impressive Yeah, we uh, I've been doing contract work at a rehab facility and doing a little bit of consulting on some shows But other than that, this is it. Yeah. Yeah That's that's really cool It should work It should I mean the numbers are there. It's just a matter of getting attention. Yeah, so tell your friends folks Go ahead Tell them all On your way out of florida. Yes on your way out of florida. Tell them to sign up for climb out network While avoiding the dolphin attack Huge I was just looking at some of the nasophotos for the uh, no man. I just just and I'm really glad that you're here to to give the Floridian perspective like it's it's easy for me to go like hey bad hurricane. You should get out like uh-huh flatlander That's that's great But you're somebody who lived there and lived through it You've got an insight into the psyche that that I don't have I mean, it's like literally right up the coast of the The the east coast of the state So one of the the the new advisory actually puts it closer to the center. Um, oh, jeez. It's like a zipper Yeah, uh listen Growing up in florida's uh, hurricanes are just a thing, you know and a lot of people take them really lightly because They are to be taken really lightly when you see so many of them and and you like to joke about how you hope the tropical storm comes close enough to your, uh Close enough to to where you live uh on a school day because uh, that means uh, if tropical depression wins Are uh there in broward county and i'm sure in many of the counties up and down florida Then you get off from school for the day, which is great uh You know, there are those there are storms there and then then there are storms and and you know what you just want to keep an eye out for them and Uh for whatever reason this one's affected me a lot as as i've been kind of just trying to keep in touch with all my all my friends and family and uh Try to coax them try to coax them on out. I don't think I've had any biters yet So i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure the movie geostorm is not going to do very well when it's released What's geostorm? It's a movie that's supposed to be coming out in a couple weeks Um, it's got uh, what's his name sparta. This is sparta kicking the guy down the well man. Yeah Upcoming environmental environment american environmental disaster science fiction action flick Producing directed by dean devlin star jarard butler jim sturgis abby cornish alexandra maria lara daniel woo eugenio Derbez ed harris and andy garcia Yeah, it's about government controlled whether that runs a muck and starts running a muck. Yeah Although by the way, uh, uh, I do want to make one more note for everybody in florida The abc liquor in sawgrass mills mall Closing at five p.m. Today, so Are you following them on twitter? How do you know that? Uh, oh no, I have my my friend group chat So wait that was 18 minutes ago. Sorry you guys missed it Oh man timezones Sorry about that guys abc liquor shut it down. So I guess uh, probably your only shot is uh You know big pappy liquor and a few other i'm getting real local to uh western prouder county Hey, uh I'd forgot to tell folks I will be on amber max the feed on serious xm channel 167 This weekend Which also is put out as a podcast So i'll be talking a little bit about some of the some of the stuff we talked about on dts this week Uh, that's great. She does such a great job. Yeah, she's amazing Hey tom we're yet Right now on the uh on the pats On the the patriots. Yeah, no on the on patreon.com I really knew that's what you meant But as soon as you said pats my mind immediately were like, um, I don't really follow the patriots No, they do play tonight though. Take the take the under take the under. I know what that means now. Um 18,365 Wow Close So close 1635 to go Good times. Yeah, man. No, this is Way farther down the road than I expected to be it is starting to slow down a little bit But how could it not? um Well, yeah, that was where you got to punch through because once again 19's then You know, I think momentum will pick back up as it's close, right? Exactly. Uh, so if we want yeah once we get over 19 and you can start saying we're just hundreds. We're you know, Three digit numbers away Uh, that's great. The the one thing I'm always a little bit wary of is when you get close enough Somebody who's generous and has the means will be like, I'll give 300 dollars and put you over the edge Which is great as long as you can keep it up. Yeah But what sucks is if it's like you do that one month and then pull it back the next So I always encourage people like just give what you can sustainably give we'll get there We'll keep going Uh, all right gang. Well, uh, I'm going to take my leave But uh Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm I'm actually gonna end our broadcast Thanks everybody for watching and we will be back tomorrow talk to you there And if you're in florida do it just and said stay safe