 I have a question that I think our YouTube friends will be interested in knowing. We are here in Silicon Valley working for the next few weeks. So I'm wondering if you were to talk to any kind of designers and if they were wondering, let's say. What do you think is like a skill that is just really great for a product designer to have in Silicon Valley specifically? I'm a product manager at WD. I am mainly responsible for mobile apps, web apps and anything related to software. I think the number one thing that's important here in Silicon Valley is it's a very fast-paced environment. So if you can take your ideas and concepts and actually learn to prototype and be a really good prototyper, that gives you a big leg up as a product designer. I think the actual field itself is changing quite a lot before you had separations of interaction designers and visual designers, but now it's almost like you're one and the same, you're kind of hybrid. Now they're slowly adding in the prototyping skills as well. So if you can take it from just an idea, from a concept, all the way to an interactable, clickable, or even a coded prototype, that really sets you apart as a product designer. Interesting. That's really cool. Thank you so much. Of course. It's been just an absolute delight. This feels awkward and weird. We're more of a high-five kind of designer. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Thanks for me. No worries. Thank you. I'm a product designer at Western Digital and I've been with the company for about three and a half years and before that I was at a video game industry for a very long time and after that I was like, what is the opposite of video games? I'm wondering, what do you think in Silicon Valley as a product designer are the best skills to have? That's a tough one because I feel Silicon Valley is not necessarily, I don't know, it's going to make, maybe people are not going to agree with me, sometimes they discover designers from all over the world who are like, wow, you guys are kicking ass, like this is really great but in general I think for a designer, as a whole not just necessarily a Silicon Valley designer, knowing the users and being able to kind of break through your comfort zone and really create, generate more ideas, really know the users, know the problem, ask the correct questions and only then focus on like what tools you use. You have to get your brain in the right order and at the end of the day you're working with the user. You're solving a problem that users need help solving, so that's your job. Cool. I hope that was, that's great, that's great, thank you very much Irina, let's have fun. Look me here, maybe you can tell everybody, this is on, this is on YouTube, just so you know, you can tell everybody what you do, what is your role. So now technically my role is director of product design? Very cool, very cool, so my question for you Le Mans is what do you think you're here in Silicon Valley working with the Kram De La Kram, what do you think is like a skill or some skills that is just really great for a product designer to have in Silicon Valley specifically? Yeah, I think one of the pitfalls that many designer have is wanting to be right all the time and wanting so hard to change the world that they forget to fail along the way and I think a good skill that a product designer should have is fail fast and really like iterate quickly, quickly detect failure and reach success faster and I think that requires a little bit of humility but I think this is a good skill to have. I think that's such a good point because here in Silicon Valley it's so fast paced and it's so competitive, so competitive here that I think people get really serious very fast, you know? Yeah, my dream would be to create a portfolio where all I show to a potential employer is everywhere that I fail and not show a single, that would be amazing, I tried that, it sucked, I tried that, it was terrible, but I learned so much. But guess what, yeah exactly, oh that's great, I really like that answer. Thank you so much Le Mans. You're welcome. Who are you? So I work as a product manager, I do platform technology at Western Digital, so that means we work on the software and connected web services that will power the next generation connecting all of our devices and your storage experiences together. So I'm wondering if you were to talk to any kind of designers and if they were wondering, let's say, what kind of skills are most useful as a designer in Silicon Valley, what would you say? One that I would say is empathy. So having a good ability with empathy allows you to get outside of your own head and think about problems from the perspective of the person that it matters to and what matters to that person and help to really understand their point of view, perspective, pain points, motivators and thinking, feeling and doing situations and without a strong sense of empathy teams don't really connect with the customer or the person that they're trying to serve. Absolutely, yeah and I think that it's also something that people, it's quite rare actually that you're really able to look at how someone else might be approaching situations. There's a difference between sympathizing and empathy and there's a difference between making up a story and really understanding what it's like to be in someone else's situation. That's the difference between designing a product and doing surveys and starting your product by doing weeks of in-home research and visiting people in their houses and talking to them and spending time with them and listening and understanding instead of focusing so much on what you want to create and instead falling in love with first the humans and then really falling in love with the problem which is really where the product standpoint comes from. Designers and engineers solve problems and product managers and product leaders tend to really do best when they fall in love with the human and the problem on the other side and don't really dictate the solution and let the solution fall out of trying to aim for that human and those problems. We got quite deep, we went deep into the product and I really appreciate that, I really do. Thank you very much Colin. I find it out, as always. How many high fives have you done over the past two days? I don't know, my hands are like just numb. We're missing them because it's just, I don't want to float a bit. Yeah, yeah, perfect. Thank you.